It looks worse than cheap, it looks unprofessional.
I'm not impressed by your professionalism. I make my living working on a product that you can't afford (and nor can your mom*). During the first months of development of each new version, it has all sorts of "unprofessional" splash screens. If it's not a release, nobody cares.
Altavista ans Alltheweb are both owned by Overture, which again is owned by Yahoo. Hard to tell which one actually created it. (I'm guessing alltheweb...)
To answer your question, no Ukranians are not "Aryan", but neither are English or German. Maybe you're confusing Indo-Iranian ("Aryan") with Indo-European. Indo-Iranian (Sanskrit, Urdu, Hindi, etc), Italic (Latin, French, Italian, etc),
Slavic (Russian, Ukranian, Polish, etc) and Germanic (English, German, etc) are all branches of the Indo-European language tree.
What's most important, freedom for developers or freedom for users? The GPL is all about freedom for users, while the BSD-style licenses give much more freedom developers/corporations to do whatever they want with the code.
Personally, I'm going for freedom for users. I want the software I use to be open source. I want to have the ability to bugfix and extend the programs I use. I don't want closed source programs to hijack my data!
More people should read the GPL and some of the background info on why it is the way it is. Then maybe we would have fewer of the BSD-is-more-free-than-GPL trolls (I'm not necessarily implying that the parent poster is one of them...)
If that's your view, you should probably be distributing your software under something other than the GPL.
"The GPL only give you rights, it doesn't take any rights away from you" Heard that one before? This is the principle that make the GPL a licence. If it took rights away from you, it would have been a contract, and that would require a signature (or a click-through) for it to be valid.
The thing is, I have the right to not agree with the GPL. If it is so that the GPL takes away my right not to agree with it, then the GPL is not a license, but a contract, and it's not valid unless I sign it.
Read section 5 of the GPL: ...by modifying or distributing the Program (or any work based on the Program), you indicate your acceptance of this License to do so
Can we please apply some comon sense to this discussion? When I release a program under the GPL, I indicate that everybody have the right to modify and distribute the program. They can't take away their own right to do so, just by disagreeing with the GPL. I don't care if they disagree or not, they have my permission anyway.
If they actually violate the GPL, which I firmly believe SCO has done, it's a whole different matter.
SCO claiming the GPL wasn't a valid license is the same as me or you clicking "I Disagree" in the installation of some Windows app.
Uhh, no...
Me: I hereby give you permission to distribute this piece of software I have created.
You: NOOOOO!!!!
Me: So what? You still have my permission...
Remember, the GPL gives you rights, it doesn't take any of your rights away.
Take a look at section 5. It states that you cannot actually accept or decline the license, since you havne't signed it. It just is. Also: by modifying or distributing the Program (or any work based on the Program), you indicate your acceptance of this License to do so
Just because SCO claim something, doesn't make it true. I thought we all knew that by now...
The GPL will stay valid, and SCO will have the right to distribute GPL'ed software, until they manage to convince a judge it isn't valid after all.
Like hell it's possible. Unless you're writing your own JRE, Sun's JRE most certainly can NOT be distributed and you'd be opening yourself up to a world of hurt if you even tried.
Bzzzt!!! Go back and read the license for the JRE. It explicitly states that you can distribute it. You can even do some very limited modifications to it.
Not a single method that has been deprecated has been removed.
Maybe, but at least one has (intentionally) stopped working. System.getenv(String) used to return the value of an evironment variable, but will in java 1.4 always throw an exception. The reason is that it is "not platform independent enough". Due to a lot of protests, they are puting it back in 1.5.
I agree with everything else you said in your post, though:)
If you're just doing some "light" server side scripting, then one of these are probably a better choice than Java. I'm not a huge fan of jsp myself...
If you're doing something more complex, you get a lot of stuff for free with Java: Infrastructure stuff like application servers, libraries (jakarta...) and development tools. Do python, ruby or php have something comparable to j2ee?
3 years? I distinctly remember handing in a paper on convergance in high school, 8 or 9 years ago. It was mostly about internet/video-games/tv/vcr, but this mobile phone-thing hadn't really taken off yet...
I can still remember the conclusion: It's a great idea, but we'll have to wait better bandwidth. Still waiting...
Actually, they've been using thin Citrix clients, and this is just a small test project to see if they can use PXES Universal Linux Thin Client instead. The users will still see a Windows desktop. One of the reasons they're doing this, is to be able to use really old hardware, like 90MHz Pentium PCs. I guess not all distributions are getting fatter and slower
A couple of weeks ago, several hundred people were arrested for possesion of child pornography in Scandinavia. While some were caught for distributing it on fasttrack (kazaa), the majority had paid for it online with their credit card.. Obviously economy is involved in this. Some people are making money distributing it. I don't know if anyone are paid for making it, but is seems likely.
I'm not impressed by your professionalism. I make my living working on a product that you can't afford (and nor can your mom*). During the first months of development of each new version, it has all sorts of "unprofessional" splash screens. If it's not a release, nobody cares.
*) no really, she can't.
Altavista
Alltheweb
Altavista ans Alltheweb are both owned by Overture, which again is owned by Yahoo. Hard to tell which one actually created it. (I'm guessing alltheweb...)
Couldn't agree more!
Forget the spoon.
Forget the fork.
It's all about the spork!
Please have a look at some facts.
To answer your question, no Ukranians are not "Aryan", but neither are English or German. Maybe you're confusing Indo-Iranian ("Aryan") with Indo-European. Indo-Iranian (Sanskrit, Urdu, Hindi, etc), Italic (Latin, French, Italian, etc), Slavic (Russian, Ukranian, Polish, etc) and Germanic (English, German, etc) are all branches of the Indo-European language tree.
Let me guess: You live under a rock, don't you?
(Seriously, I really hope you're joking... SMS == Short Messaging Service == text message)
Slashdot and porn, what else is there?
1 monitor.
:)
Porn
2 monitors.
Porn Porn
3 monitors.
Porn Porn Porn
4 monitors.
i really couldn't find a good purpose for the 4rd one, but it looks cool...
Oh, wait. Porn
We pay.
Personally, I'm going for freedom for users. I want the software I use to be open source. I want to have the ability to bugfix and extend the programs I use. I don't want closed source programs to hijack my data!
More people should read the GPL and some of the background info on why it is the way it is. Then maybe we would have fewer of the BSD-is-more-free-than-GPL trolls (I'm not necessarily implying that the parent poster is one of them...)
"The GPL only give you rights, it doesn't take any rights away from you" Heard that one before? This is the principle that make the GPL a licence. If it took rights away from you, it would have been a contract, and that would require a signature (or a click-through) for it to be valid.
The thing is, I have the right to not agree with the GPL. If it is so that the GPL takes away my right not to agree with it, then the GPL is not a license, but a contract, and it's not valid unless I sign it.
Read The GPL is a License, Not a Contract, Which is Why the Sky Isn't Falling for some background info.
Can we please apply some comon sense to this discussion? When I release a program under the GPL, I indicate that everybody have the right to modify and distribute the program. They can't take away their own right to do so, just by disagreeing with the GPL. I don't care if they disagree or not, they have my permission anyway.
If they actually violate the GPL, which I firmly believe SCO has done, it's a whole different matter.
Uhh, no...
Me: I hereby give you permission to distribute this piece of software I have created.
You: NOOOOO!!!!
Me: So what? You still have my permission...
Remember, the GPL gives you rights, it doesn't take any of your rights away. Take a look at section 5. It states that you cannot actually accept or decline the license, since you havne't signed it. It just is. Also: by modifying or distributing the Program (or any work based on the Program), you indicate your acceptance of this License to do so
Just because SCO claim something, doesn't make it true. I thought we all knew that by now... The GPL will stay valid, and SCO will have the right to distribute GPL'ed software, until they manage to convince a judge it isn't valid after all.
java: 65,300,000
c#: 4,340,000
vb.net: 2,500,000
Like hell it's possible. Unless you're writing your own JRE, Sun's JRE most certainly can NOT be distributed and you'd be opening yourself up to a world of hurt if you even tried.
Bzzzt!!! Go back and read the license for the JRE. It explicitly states that you can distribute it. You can even do some very limited modifications to it.
"The first malware capable of infecting smartphones" is a different program, Cabir.
Not a single method that has been deprecated has been removed.
:)
Maybe, but at least one has (intentionally) stopped working. System.getenv(String) used to return the value of an evironment variable, but will in java 1.4 always throw an exception. The reason is that it is "not platform independent enough". Due to a lot of protests, they are puting it back in 1.5.
I agree with everything else you said in your post, though
Quicker in what sense?
If you're just doing some "light" server side scripting, then one of these are probably a better choice than Java. I'm not a huge fan of jsp myself...
If you're doing something more complex, you get a lot of stuff for free with Java: Infrastructure stuff like application servers, libraries (jakarta...) and development tools. Do python, ruby or php have something comparable to j2ee?
You're right, as a client side web technology, Java suck badly. On the server side OTOH, java is King.
You should read the post above your own (by elemur). It sumarizes the sutuation pretty well. (You're in the first category btw..)
The real value of java is actually the ability to write quick (and thereby cheap) solutions to massive coding challenges.
Yes, you're right, "Java" is a buzzword. Much like "The Internet" and "Color TV"...
Ha! That's nothing!
1, 2, 3, 95, 98, 2000, 2003, ...
3 years? I distinctly remember handing in a paper on convergance in high school, 8 or 9 years ago. It was mostly about internet/video-games/tv/vcr, but this mobile phone-thing hadn't really taken off yet...
I can still remember the conclusion: It's a great idea, but we'll have to wait better bandwidth. Still waiting...
Actually, they've been using thin Citrix clients, and this is just a small test project to see if they can use PXES Universal Linux Thin Client instead. The users will still see a Windows desktop. One of the reasons they're doing this, is to be able to use really old hardware, like 90MHz Pentium PCs. I guess not all distributions are getting fatter and slower
A couple of weeks ago, several hundred people were arrested for possesion of child pornography in Scandinavia. While some were caught for distributing it on fasttrack (kazaa), the majority had paid for it online with their credit card.. Obviously economy is involved in this. Some people are making money distributing it. I don't know if anyone are paid for making it, but is seems likely.