Oh please, read the text you're quoting. The guy is on the board of 25 companies. How do you draw the conclusion that this is a "canopy goup representative". You might as well say the trolltech has a representative on the canopy board.
Anyway, he only represent 5% of the shares. He can't to one damn thing unless the trolltech employees (who own 65%) agree.
opment? I mean, are you just watching them or sometimes would you be interested in supporting the people doing this in order to have a wider possibility for the usage of Qt?
ME: We have had contacts with some of the authors of bindings, so we support them on request and have contact and talk to them. We keep that option open to do more things with bindings in the future. Our current stand is that there is very little commercial interest in those bindings. There are also surprisingly little Free Software using them. There are very few applications being written with those bindings.
Qt as API shines most with C++. Together with C++ the overall value of Qt is much bigger than when you do, for example, use Python-bindings. One of the reasons for that is that Python - but you could pick Perl or any other language - have a large set of libraries and additional tools.
Python has stuff to do network, server programming, to do I/O, XML. If you put Qt on top of that, you are only interested in the GUI, whereas the C++ people will use the XML API, the file abstraction and all the things so the value is much higher.
PF: The PyQt/BlackAdder license is so cheap in comparison with the full Qt license. How can you make money out of this ?
EE: It is a very limited market as Matthias has mentioned. And it is also seen as a commercial experiment to see how much interest there is in it. And we have been marketing together with TheKompany on it. The question is good and so far, at least from our side, it has been disappointing how few companies actually have an interest in developing using such a tool . I guess that comes back to, as Matthias said, Qt is really a C++ toolkit and that's where it shines and really add value.
PF: If you look back at everything you have achieved with Trolltech, what would you like to underline, what are the things you are proud of, or the things you really regret that happened, the mistakes you made?
EE: First one is really easy to answer, what's makes me personally most proud is the fact that we have made life a lot easier for a lot of people who are developers out there. When I started looking at multi-platform GUI toolkit together with Harvard back in 1990, we saw that the API was terrible and that they were so difficult to use. You had to spend a lot of time reading the documentation to find how to use the tools, and we decided that it could be a lot better. You could make an API that really is logical and easy to use and you could make the application developers concentra
That model wasn't even intended for the European market.
They did intend to sell it in Europe, and they are selling it here now.
Of course, it never got as far as to the shops with that name. It's now being sold as Honda Jazz.
Anyone know if "jazz" is a reference to female genitalia in any lanuage?:)
Mr Soto claims he is a spammer (or was, but once a spammer, always a spammer). By the first rule of spam, Mr Soto is lying, and is therefore not a spammer afterall. But, if he isn't a spammer, he's probably telling the thruSTACK OVERFLOW!!!
In the past, Mr. Soto says he has sent out spam himself, but he doesn't any more for fear of the increasing multitude of federal and state spam regulations now on the books.
Of course, Jasmin just compiles java VM assembly into java bytecode, not x86, mips or any other *real* assembly language. The java VM is stack based, so it's a pain to program for in assembly. The java compiler will probably do a much better job at optimizing it anyways...
I don't know if you have noticed this ongoing legal battle IBM is involved in... It started when IBM contributed code to another free software project, that have about the same relationship to UNIX that GJC have to Sun's java.
I imagine IBM is a little bit careful, not to get into the same situation again...
I fully agree that "topic search" or "concept search" is the way to go for search engines, and believe me, a lot of people are working on this.
Your example isn't very good though. I can't remember ever having searched for "[some-technical-term] tutorial" an not gotten just what I was looking for. "[some-technical-term] reference" is also a sure bet
Actually the purpose of the GPL is to provide freedom for the user. The GPL guaranties that the user always have access to, and the right to modify and distribute, the source code of the (GPL'ed) software he use. You could say that the GPL sacrifice some of the developers freedom for the sake of the user. This why I relese my code under the GPL, not a BSDish license:)
You're right, but I want my gameboy advance, and a 22 megapixel SLR camera *in a single package*. To not include a phone in the thing would just be plain silly, even if you don't have anyone to call...
Does a project with > 300 source files, using about 20 external libraries qualify as "mildly complex". Thats what i'm working on now and Eclipse is smoooth! This isn't state of the art hardware either, a dual p3 800mhz.
I think the grandparent was reffering to developing an application with the Free version, then buying a license for the closed source version and releasing the program as closed source. You could then have 1000 developers working on an application, but only buying one license. TrollTech obviously don't want that to happen. If they could legally stop you from doing that is another question... The GPL certainly don't let you have these kinds of restrictions, but the license for the closed source version migth...
Round up all the OSS developers. Every single individual. And tally up how much they've donated to charities, schools, museums, communities, universities, third-world aid efforts.
How much do you think all the world's charities, schools, museums, communities, universities and third-world aid efforts would use on software if only comercial alternatives were available? I would guess the sums of money we're talking about here is far more than any single person will ever be able to give to charity.
That reminds me of a "milk situation" in the flat I rented with some friends when I was at uni. A carton of milk had been standing in the fridge for a couple of months. Everyone knew about it, everyone knew that everyone else knew about it, but no one would say or do anything about it. It was just standing there in the back of the fridge, screaming "I'm BAAAAAAD!!!!" In the end it was the main issue of a "family meeting". What really surprised me was how old a half full carton of milk can get without starting to smell, as long as it isn't opened.
By the way, here is the perfect way to avoid the "dishes issue": Make a list. When you have done the dishes, move the arraov/cursor/fridge magnet to the next person on the list. It's the boring solution, but it works!
Why would they need to get a new warrant? The original warrant already gives them the right to look through the _entire_ disk. If the police finds kiddy porn on som guy's computer, but aren't allowed to arrest him at once, you guys (i'm not an american) really need to take a good look at your laws. Or, on second throught, please take a look at yourlaws anyway.
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That should actually be "AlltheWeb (Overture)", not "AllTheWeb (FAST)", as Overture bought AllTheWeb from FAST earlier this year.
Or maybe Yahoo will be using FAST DataSearch, instead of the AllTheWeb engine...
What would be the point of having one search interface on the front page, and another one "a couple of extra clicks" away. It's a well known fact that the vast majority of people never use any search features that isn't on the front page of the search engine anyway. So having an inktomi/overture/alltheweb search field on the front page and a google search field some clicks away would just be a waste of money for yahoo.
I totally disagree. RMS *started* the Free Software movement and can promote it in whatever way he wants. In my opinion he's doing a pretty good job at it.:) If you don't like it, you can start your own movement. Someone else already did.
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Oh please, read the text you're quoting. The guy is on the board of 25 companies. How do you draw the conclusion that this is a "canopy goup representative". You might as well say the trolltech has a representative on the canopy board.
Anyway, he only represent 5% of the shares. He can't to one damn thing unless the trolltech employees (who own 65%) agree.
I think you're wrong. Check out the KDE FAQ.
They did intend to sell it in Europe, and they are selling it here now. Of course, it never got as far as to the shops with that name. It's now being sold as Honda Jazz.
Anyone know if "jazz" is a reference to female genitalia in any lanuage? :)
It reminds me of when Honda tried to introduce their new model Honda Fitta in Scandianvia...
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...there is a God, he actually is an asshole, the bible is absolute truth, and both of us are going to Hell...
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Have a nice day
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OK...
Mr Soto claims he is a spammer (or was, but once a spammer, always a spammer). By the first rule of spam, Mr Soto is lying, and is therefore not a spammer afterall.
But, if he isn't a spammer, he's probably telling the thruSTACK OVERFLOW!!!
In the past, Mr. Soto says he has sent out spam himself, but he doesn't any more for fear of the increasing multitude of federal and state spam regulations now on the books.
Of course, Jasmin just compiles java VM assembly into java bytecode, not x86, mips or any other *real* assembly language. The java VM is stack based, so it's a pain to program for in assembly. The java compiler will probably do a much better job at optimizing it anyways...
I don't know if you have noticed this ongoing legal battle IBM is involved in... It started when IBM contributed code to another free software project, that have about the same relationship to UNIX that GJC have to Sun's java.
I imagine IBM is a little bit careful, not to get into the same situation again...
I fully agree that "topic search" or "concept search" is the way to go for search engines, and believe me, a lot of people are working on this.
Your example isn't very good though. I can't remember ever having searched for "[some-technical-term] tutorial" an not gotten just what I was looking for. "[some-technical-term] reference" is also a sure bet
Actually the purpose of the GPL is to provide freedom for the user. The GPL guaranties that the user always have access to, and the right to modify and distribute, the source code of the (GPL'ed) software he use. You could say that the GPL sacrifice some of the developers freedom for the sake of the user. This why I relese my code under the GPL, not a BSDish license :)
You're right, but I want my gameboy advance, and a 22 megapixel SLR camera *in a single package*. To not include a phone in the thing would just be plain silly, even if you don't have anyone to call...
Can you please tell me exactly which IDEs you are referring to? In my experience, even the most trivial Swing applications are painfully slow...
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Does a project with > 300 source files, using about 20 external libraries qualify as "mildly complex". Thats what i'm working on now and Eclipse is smoooth! This isn't state of the art hardware either, a dual p3 800mhz.
I think the grandparent was reffering to developing an application with the Free version, then buying a license for the closed source version and releasing the program as closed source. You could then have 1000 developers working on an application, but only buying one license. TrollTech obviously don't want that to happen. If they could legally stop you from doing that is another question... The GPL certainly don't let you have these kinds of restrictions, but the license for the closed source version migth...
So true, so tragically true...
I can pretty much guarantee you that any given project of a certain size and complexity will not Just Run on a new platform.
Ah, the delights of subtle differences... :)
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There is no way I can express how much I admire your total lack of respect for facts. You have truly made my life more interesting.
Thank you!
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How much do you think all the world's charities, schools, museums, communities, universities and third-world aid efforts would use on software if only comercial alternatives were available? I would guess the sums of money we're talking about here is far more than any single person will ever be able to give to charity.
By the way, here is the perfect way to avoid the "dishes issue": Make a list. When you have done the dishes, move the arraov/cursor/fridge magnet to the next person on the list. It's the boring solution, but it works!
Back on topic: Oh wait.... my job is perfect :)
Why would they need to get a new warrant? The original warrant already gives them the right to look through the _entire_ disk. If the police finds kiddy porn on som guy's computer, but aren't allowed to arrest him at once, you guys (i'm not an american) really need to take a good look at your laws. Or, on second throught, please take a look at your laws anyway.
That should actually be "AlltheWeb (Overture)", not "AllTheWeb (FAST)", as Overture bought AllTheWeb from FAST earlier this year.
Or maybe Yahoo will be using FAST DataSearch, instead of the AllTheWeb engine...
What would be the point of having one search interface on the front page, and another one "a couple of extra clicks" away. It's a well known fact that the vast majority of people never use any search features that isn't on the front page of the search engine anyway. So having an inktomi/overture/alltheweb search field on the front page and a google search field some clicks away would just be a waste of money for yahoo.
I totally disagree. RMS *started* the Free Software movement and can promote it in whatever way he wants. In my opinion he's doing a pretty good job at it. :) If you don't like it, you can start your own movement. Someone else already did.