Your statement contradicts itself. You state that you don't like lots of dependences for a program, but you expect developers to create highly reusable libraries?
Just to run a KDE application I have to install a bunch of KDE-specific libraries that C++ify or Qt-ify existing things. Completely superfluous dependencies. The Gnome folks seem to have more of a modular stance and don't have to "Gnomeify" everything - in fact, they do the opposite.
If there's one thing you can say for Google, they know how to stand up for sane copyright law.
That's because Google's entire business model is based around using other people's copyrighted material.
It's a symbiotic relationship where Google can use pieces of peoples content to advertise over while simultaneously causing that full content to be consumed, making the creators money.
Everyone makes these arguments about Gnome vs KDE and it gets so boring and repetitive.
I think the real difference is in the design philosophy of both.
KDE is more of an all-encompassing project, it seems. It is viewed as a tightly woven collection of pieces. There is a lib/program with K in its name for everything involving anything. The last time I tried using a KDE program, I had to download 50MB of support libraries.
Gnome seems more agnostic and less branded. Sometimes, this means less integrated. When there is a needed library, the Gnome people go off and write an agnostic library that can be utilized by anyone without compounding into 100 dependencies. They focus on generic API creation and orthogonal design, and then deal with integration later.
I think that's probably why Gnome is written in C rather than C++ as well, and why Miguel de Icaza is attracted to C# as a language. That's also why the KDE people settled for a GPL library and not an LGPL library.
From a developer's perspective, I prefer Gnome's methodology. I'd rather things be done 'right', in that orthogonal, reusable, generic fashion. Maybe it lacks some of the features, but that's the price I pay... GTK has more of the killer Linux apps like Gaim, Open Office, Mozilla, etc.
I disagree. I prefer Yahoo Mail classic and beta to GMail. GMail's interface makes me feel lost and claustrophobic, for whatever legitimate or non-legitimate reasons.
Plus, I use a lot of other Yahoo services and being logged into Mail makes the others easier since they all authenticate the same way.
World of Warcraft isn't illegal, but it ruins plenty of lives as well.
Your argument is a little unfocused, since you seem to have a drug legalization agenda. While I agree that many drug laws are unnecessary, the point still stands that addiction is a bad thing, regardless of legal status, and that's why we don't give everyone opiates for their depression symptoms.
Alcohol isn't illegal, and yet its addiction ruins peoples lives. I think, by definition, addiction means that your life is pretty much run by something other than yourself.
If people could use heroin moderately, and walk away whenever they felt like, it wouldn't be an addiction. That would be moderate recreational usage, which is entirely different.
Addiction entails spiraling usage, tolerance build-up, and interference with daily life.
Antidepressants aren't meant to make people happy. They're meant to make people stable, which is entirely different.
Jesus, if we wanted pills to make people happy, we'd be handing out heroin or vicodin. People get addicted to drugs that make them happy, and then that destroys their lives.
Can you believe there are people hoping the opposite? Tired of patches, config files, computer monitors, executive chairs, and running Windows...? Buy a console for games and run Linux on your desktop!
CDs finally are going down in price, exactly because of MP3 sharing and iTunes. You all can enjoy your low-quality, lossy crap... but I am reaping the benefits of it! Competition means good things for the consumer... who would have thought?
Perhaps, video games give us a world where we can try things before having real repercussions, and that is the real problem - not the games themselves. Perhaps, if the simulation is real enough, it serves as reinforcement for trying similar things in real life, and a place to experiment new things.
For example... if you notice you can get through traffic easier in a game by riding in the bus lane, maybe one day if you are frustrated enough you will actually see that option in real life.
In reality, there are rules and consequences, but those don't exist so much in a game since you can always start over. People tend not to "think outside of the box", but games can cause one to question the authority and usefulness of societal structures that have no inherent meaning.
Now, violence is entirely different than traffic laws...
They have to make the boxed versions cost so much in order to give the OEMs "deals". It's all part of their strategy... a strategy that nobody likes but works for them.
I'm starting to see the same trend. I was sick for about a month and couldn't exercise, and kept seeing the same weight loss, even with some random binging.
I was pretty anti-RPG until I finally broke down and bought a PS2 recently. (The PS2 seems to have a ton of good RPGish games, I bought it for Katamari, but what do you play when you're done with Katamari? That's another story...)
Honestly, I can't stand to sit still through movies. I need to be doing something. Sitting and getting involved in a book is completely out of the picture.
The nice thing about RPGs is you can play a little bit, accomplish something in the game, and then turn it off. The game will last weeks at 1-2 hours a day. You can pause it and go do laundry or read wikipedia or whatever. It's like a book or movie, but interactive and at your own pace.
It took me being incredibly sick to actually sit down and figure out that RPGs ain't that bad. They're just hard to get started with, but once they're started they're quite enjoyable.
It had a prompt saying "WEP" something or other... which is a lot easier to diagnose than "Password:". As for the B and G network, I didn't get that far on the Windows laptop, but on my own laptop it says "802.11G Wireless Network Adapter"... which is more descriptive than "AirPort".
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That's my favorite piece of code. I made it a library function.
Buy a used laptop. It may not have the best battery life, but you'll get roughly what you want.
Your statement contradicts itself. You state that you don't like lots of dependences for a program, but you expect developers to create highly reusable libraries?
Just to run a KDE application I have to install a bunch of KDE-specific libraries that C++ify or Qt-ify existing things. Completely superfluous dependencies. The Gnome folks seem to have more of a modular stance and don't have to "Gnomeify" everything - in fact, they do the opposite.
This entire lawsuit's outcome will be determined by the interpretation of that one word? That's incredible.
If there's one thing you can say for Google, they know how to stand up for sane copyright law.
That's because Google's entire business model is based around using other people's copyrighted material.
It's a symbiotic relationship where Google can use pieces of peoples content to advertise over while simultaneously causing that full content to be consumed, making the creators money.
What a strange new world...
Everyone makes these arguments about Gnome vs KDE and it gets so boring and repetitive.
I think the real difference is in the design philosophy of both.
KDE is more of an all-encompassing project, it seems. It is viewed as a tightly woven collection of pieces. There is a lib/program with K in its name for everything involving anything. The last time I tried using a KDE program, I had to download 50MB of support libraries.
Gnome seems more agnostic and less branded. Sometimes, this means less integrated. When there is a needed library, the Gnome people go off and write an agnostic library that can be utilized by anyone without compounding into 100 dependencies. They focus on generic API creation and orthogonal design, and then deal with integration later.
I think that's probably why Gnome is written in C rather than C++ as well, and why Miguel de Icaza is attracted to C# as a language. That's also why the KDE people settled for a GPL library and not an LGPL library.
From a developer's perspective, I prefer Gnome's methodology. I'd rather things be done 'right', in that orthogonal, reusable, generic fashion. Maybe it lacks some of the features, but that's the price I pay... GTK has more of the killer Linux apps like Gaim, Open Office, Mozilla, etc.
I disagree. I prefer Yahoo Mail classic and beta to GMail. GMail's interface makes me feel lost and claustrophobic, for whatever legitimate or non-legitimate reasons.
Plus, I use a lot of other Yahoo services and being logged into Mail makes the others easier since they all authenticate the same way.
Finally! Brain transplants!
Will the iPhone kill the iPod?
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Flamebait? This is satire at its greatest.
World of Warcraft isn't illegal, but it ruins plenty of lives as well.
Your argument is a little unfocused, since you seem to have a drug legalization agenda. While I agree that many drug laws are unnecessary, the point still stands that addiction is a bad thing, regardless of legal status, and that's why we don't give everyone opiates for their depression symptoms.
Alcohol isn't illegal, and yet its addiction ruins peoples lives.
I think, by definition, addiction means that your life is pretty much run by something other than yourself.
If people could use heroin moderately, and walk away whenever they felt like, it wouldn't be an addiction. That would be moderate recreational usage, which is entirely different.
Addiction entails spiraling usage, tolerance build-up, and interference with daily life.
Antidepressants aren't meant to make people happy. They're meant to make people stable, which is entirely different.
Jesus, if we wanted pills to make people happy, we'd be handing out heroin or vicodin. People get addicted to drugs that make them happy, and then that destroys their lives.
How come whenever I see a PS3 on display in a store it sounds like it needs its muffler replaced?
Can you believe there are people hoping the opposite?
Tired of patches, config files, computer monitors, executive chairs, and running Windows...? Buy a console for games and run Linux on your desktop!
CDs finally are going down in price, exactly because of MP3 sharing and iTunes. You all can enjoy your low-quality, lossy crap... but I am reaping the benefits of it! Competition means good things for the consumer... who would have thought?
Perhaps, video games give us a world where we can try things before having real repercussions, and that is the real problem - not the games themselves.
Perhaps, if the simulation is real enough, it serves as reinforcement for trying similar things in real life, and a place to experiment new things.
For example... if you notice you can get through traffic easier in a game by riding in the bus lane, maybe one day if you are frustrated enough you will actually see that option in real life.
In reality, there are rules and consequences, but those don't exist so much in a game since you can always start over. People tend not to "think outside of the box", but games can cause one to question the authority and usefulness of societal structures that have no inherent meaning.
Now, violence is entirely different than traffic laws...
They have to make the boxed versions cost so much in order to give the OEMs "deals". It's all part of their strategy... a strategy that nobody likes but works for them.
I'm starting to see the same trend. I was sick for about a month and couldn't exercise, and kept seeing the same weight loss, even with some random binging.
It's all about your overall eating habits.
If only the two weren't mutually exclusive...
I was pretty anti-RPG until I finally broke down and bought a PS2 recently. (The PS2 seems to have a ton of good RPGish games, I bought it for Katamari, but what do you play when you're done with Katamari? That's another story...)
Honestly, I can't stand to sit still through movies. I need to be doing something. Sitting and getting involved in a book is completely out of the picture.
The nice thing about RPGs is you can play a little bit, accomplish something in the game, and then turn it off. The game will last weeks at 1-2 hours a day. You can pause it and go do laundry or read wikipedia or whatever. It's like a book or movie, but interactive and at your own pace.
It took me being incredibly sick to actually sit down and figure out that RPGs ain't that bad. They're just hard to get started with, but once they're started they're quite enjoyable.
Can you honestly watch the movie Hackers and not laugh?
'Cause I like laughing... and man, that movie is so funny. I don't care if the facts are completely sideways.
It had a prompt saying "WEP" something or other... which is a lot easier to diagnose than "Password:".
As for the B and G network, I didn't get that far on the Windows laptop, but on my own laptop it says "802.11G Wireless Network Adapter"... which is more descriptive than "AirPort".