Israel has offered on more then one occasion to attempt to make things right and it has been rejected each and every time by the Palestinians.
There's one tyme you've missed. After Camp David failed negotiations started in Taba, Egypt in 2001. An agreement was almost reached when Israel not Palestinians pulled out.
The Native Americans are allowed to become full American citizens. Palestinians are denied citizenship by Israel.
Why much of what you say is true, those Arabs or Palestinians who stayed where they lived, are Arab citizens of Israel. There are even Arabs in the Israeli government. Of course Arab Israelis are treated like second class citizens.
You don't see Native Americans strapping explosives to their chests and screaming that, in the name of their god, they shall take back their homeland from the filthy paleskins that conquered them, do you?
They didn't have the technology then but some Indian tribes did fight, and were almost exterminated. Others didn't mind too much having settlers living near or around them but did mind that European settlers then claimed the land as their own. Even now the US has Leonard Peltier in prison as a political prisoner for standing up for NDN rights.
Israel was created generations ago, after World War II came to a close - It seems as though a fair amount of time has passed since then, over half a century.
Yes, NDNs have had far longer to assimilate. However before and after WWII the British considered Jews as the terrorists. Heck, Hitler and the NAZIs even trained European Jews to fight against the British in Palestine. Members of the Stern Gang, Lehi, were some of those so trained.
Have the Arab people (or at least their leaders) of those lands surrounding Israel been breeding nothing but unbridled hatred and fury over the past nearly sixty years?
Unfortunately this is all too true. They've felt the land was theirs to begin with, though there were Jews as well as Christians living on the land too. After independence some Christians and Muslim stayed and became Israeli citizens. There are even Arab members of the Israeli government.
Do survivors of World War II teach hatred and distrust of Germans and Japanese, and vice versa? Why must the fighting continue as it is? Why is Israel's mere existence considered such a stain on the face of the Middle East?
The allies, victorers, didn't split up and create new nations out of Germany or Japan, but the Middle East was carved up, and after Jewish terrorists drove out the British from Palestine they created their own Jewish nation. This despite the fact most people living there weren't Jews. What were they supposed to do, roll over and die?
No doubt he's a bright guy, but he has some huge blinders when it comes to politics. Unfortunately, his anger overwhelms his rationality.
A blinder many other Americans wear. For instance did you know the US is partially responsible for the massacre of some 200,000 East Timorese, 1/3 the population of East Timor? Then president Ford and Henry Kissinger supported Suharto's Indonesian invasion of East Timor after Portugal granted them their independence in 1975-76 which led to the death of these East Timorese. Ford and Kissinger also supported Gen Pinochet's overthrow of the democraticaly elected government in Chile. There tens of thousands simply "dissappeared" while many thousands more were tortured and or killed. Again all with the support of the US admin. And there are other examples of US support for the overthrow of governments and massacres of people.
Oh, lest you think I'm not American, not only am I one but I also served in the US Army. I'm not anti-American either, I oppose some of the actions the government has taken in the name of the USA.
The ledger of atrocities is about 10 (if not 100) to 1 in favor of Israel.
You're absolutely right, for every Israeli killed many more Palestinians are killed. Not only does Israel kill more Palestinians but more Palestinians are forced off their land. Israel even has refuseniks who refuse to participate in some government actions, such as serving in the occupied territories.
As for UAV, it depends: if the project is about building model planes with a camera on them, I would not worry. If the project is about building a flying platform that can fly for hours and can carry 2-3 kg of gears, I would worry about it, and would not make it open source.
Why would you worry? That 2-3 kg of gear being carried for hours could be movie camera equipment, or anything else. Unless you're harmed what does it matter? When I started high school I was in a model rocketry club on campus, at least once a week we'd launch rockets in a field on campus. However now I'd be concerned about any child I had being in such a club now. I'd support them but be concerned about a government label being applied to the child as a "person of interest".
Believe it or not, there was a time in American history when lots of people carried guns. Used them to catch dinner, too. Shooting a person was considered bad form.
What many don't even know is that even slaves owned firearms through and after the USA Revolutionary war. Slaves even fought in the war, on both sides.
by your comment a gun can be used for shooting people.. or it could be used for shooting people....
Or it can be used to prevent someone else from shooting you. Or it may make a tyrannical government give another thought to an action it's about to take. I don't know about you but I fear government more than I do criminals and terrorists combined. Government is the real terrorist!
I'm registering Republican just for a chance of voting for Ron Paul in the primary, but I doubt I'll be allowed to.
I'm registered no party preference but when the primary comes around I'll switch my registration to Republican just so I can vote for Ron Paul in the primary. Of course afterwards I'll switch back to no party preference.
While fanaticism shares responsibility polygamy has nothing to do with it, you're thinking of polygyny. Polygamy is where a person, whether a male or female, can have more than one spouse. It is Polygyny, where a male can have more than one wife, that is mostly practiced. Besides these two, there's also polyandry in which females can have more than one husband.
Sure. Try telling your landlord that you going to pay him in "reciprocal commitments".
Some do but in another way. A leaser or renter may be able to have rent reduced or get a refund. I live in an appartment now and when I moved in I received a refund on the rent for watching the building. I'd clean the grounds and building as well as let repairmen in for repairs. Now another renter gets a refund for mowing the lawn.
I think copyright will fail because it serves the interests of those in the developed nations, not the interests of the developing nations.
Copyrights are supposed to encourage creaters to create, by giving them a limited monopoly on what they create. With the monopoly they can then attempt to receive compensation by selling what they create or copies thereof.
Also, those who do not prevent their population from having free and universal access to intellectual works will have more educated citizenry, and will see a rise in productivity as a result.
Fair Use should serve enough for this. With fair use a teacher could copy small parts of a work to pass out to students who then could see how something is done. Of course Fair Use means nothing now in the US.
Also, those cultures who attempt to impose barriers that prevent the proliferation of their cultural views will become marginalized, while those who encourage their culture to spread will find more allies and like-mindedness from the other cultures that do the same.
I've used firebird on a POS system I was developing. I've used the embeded version and the server classic version and they work very well. As a matter of fact I learned SQL from firebird. The syntax just works every where else. Very compliant!. You will not find auto indexers, but you can create your own with triggers. In my option, firebird can be used to replace most databases with little work.
Thanks. I'm new to dbs, I took a class of database design a few years ago but haven't done anything since. As a reintroduction to dbs I've been thinking of creating dbs for my movies and music. Though I currently don't have much music right now I'd like to get a turntable and reel-to-reel tape deck, then I'll be buying new vinyl records. However I've got hundreds of movies on both vhs tapes and dvds. This could help me learn enough to develop a db as part of an application suite for photographers, for myself really but I'd like to be able to sale it to other photographers as well, especially if it's going to take me a significant amount of tyme to develop.
I think it depends on what you would like to do. As a Posgres fanboy I will be the first to support it. Been absolutely solid and I've gone upgrading from 7.1 each release up to 8.2.4 with hardly a hitch (except the known things to watch for between 7.x and 8.x). However you do pay the price in terms of flexibility. I'm not a DBA I'm an IT manager, and I mainly need a database to "keep shit in". I also only want ONE database (for this task). Sometimes I'd think I'd like to add on a ticket system, or something else. These things are typically MySQL only. I'm not sure what your appliance does, but if it basically only interacts with itself I'd go postgresql all the way. If you want flexibility then you might want to weigh in your options a bit more. More and more things are picking up Postgres support though.
Thanks. I've been wonder to use PostgreSQL or Firebird for some personal projects. After reading your comment I think I'll try Firebird, but first I'll do some research.
HTML 5 is plain-old HTML, meaning it's syntactically forgiving (ie. case-insensitive elements and attributes, closing tags optional). That might not be important for you or me or most other Slashdot users but for the vast majority of people that kind of forgiving behaviour is very important.
xml's very strictness means those learning it won't get into bad behaviors. Bad behaviors are hard to get rid of, so it's better to have strict enforcement to begin with.
One other benefit of HTML 5 over XML is that it can fail gracefully on old and unsupportive browsers. With HTML 5 the worst thing you're likely to get is HTML 4.01 support with some text that doesn't style appropriately. With XML you're stuck.
xml can be written to degrade gracefully too. It was a few years ago but in an xml class I took we had to write xml files that could be rendered in older as well as newer versions of IE and Netscape with style sheets and xslt.
If Windows died in the marketplace and it came down to supporting Linux, I'd place a higher bet on Microsoft buying CodeWeavers than actually porting Office for real.
That would be the smart move for MS, Codeweavers has already put in a lot of work on Crossover. MS would immediately over Office to Linux users. Bundle the two together like Codeweavers does, then over tyme create a port of Office for Linux that doesn't need Crossover. That is it's smart now but if and when Open Office has a big market share it may be too late.
But who would buy it? The same reasons not to buy and run Windows (whatever they are) also apply to Office
The same people who buy CrossOver from CodeWeavers which allows people to run MS Office on both Linux and Mac OSX, or use WINE for the same purpose. Being a commercial port of WINE it runs a bunch of Windows software. It's not needed for Macs but I may get it to run Photoshop on Linux. First I'll tryout FOOS apps like Inkscape, Cinepaint, and others.
Actually, I expect that Microsoft has already made contingency plans for moving its core products onto either a Linux or a BSD kernel, much like Apple did.
If you're counting Microsoft Office as a core product, then no, they haven't.
That's something I'm a little puzzled about, MS Office. If Microsoft had created a version of Office that could run on Unix, BSD, and Linux they would have opened up a whole new market. Unfortunately for them, but good for most others, they didn't. So Open Office was created and it now runs on many OSes. People try it and they like it so they willing to try other FOSS.
Until I see some significant market share gains by OSS (I'll use desktop Linux as the benchmark), at the expense of Microsoft, then I will remain unconvinced of the threat posed by OSS.
Why is the desktop the only metric? Why not Samba, OpenOffice, OpenDocument, Mono, open groupware servers and similar projects aand standards?
Because the desktop is Microsoft's market to keep or loose.
One problem that the OSS community suffers from is that there are many licensing forms, and that some are in conflict with what's suitable for some end-users.
All of the different licenses confuses users, those who know about them at all, maybe but for developers choice is good.
Actually, the only thing holding me back from switching to Linux completely is the horrible and useless installation of new apps. Why can't Linux work like Windows - download a setup file, run it and it's there....
Ah but you can install software in Linux by just downloading and running it. I don't really know much about Linux but I know there's apt-get and rpm among others. And Linspire has CNR for Linspire Linux and they are porting it for other Linux distros. CNR allow you to select those programs you want then click a button to install them all. Uninstalling just another click.
if you don't like it, you choose "Uninstall".
Haha, I've uninstalled a lot of programs in Windows and they almost always leave junk, especially in the registry which can make it unstable. I've even had to manually uninstall software because there wasn't an uninstall and Windows Add/Remove couldn't uninstall.
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Israel has offered on more then one occasion to attempt to make things right and it has been rejected each and every time by the Palestinians.
There's one tyme you've missed. After Camp David failed negotiations started in Taba, Egypt in 2001. An agreement was almost reached when Israel not Palestinians pulled out.
FalconThe Native Americans are allowed to become full American citizens. Palestinians are denied citizenship by Israel.
Why much of what you say is true, those Arabs or Palestinians who stayed where they lived, are Arab citizens of Israel. There are even Arabs in the Israeli government. Of course Arab Israelis are treated like second class citizens.
FalconYou don't see Native Americans strapping explosives to their chests and screaming that, in the name of their god, they shall take back their homeland from the filthy paleskins that conquered them, do you?
They didn't have the technology then but some Indian tribes did fight, and were almost exterminated. Others didn't mind too much having settlers living near or around them but did mind that European settlers then claimed the land as their own. Even now the US has Leonard Peltier in prison as a political prisoner for standing up for NDN rights.
Israel was created generations ago, after World War II came to a close - It seems as though a fair amount of time has passed since then, over half a century.
Yes, NDNs have had far longer to assimilate. However before and after WWII the British considered Jews as the terrorists. Heck, Hitler and the NAZIs even trained European Jews to fight against the British in Palestine. Members of the Stern Gang, Lehi, were some of those so trained.
Have the Arab people (or at least their leaders) of those lands surrounding Israel been breeding nothing but unbridled hatred and fury over the past nearly sixty years?
Unfortunately this is all too true. They've felt the land was theirs to begin with, though there were Jews as well as Christians living on the land too. After independence some Christians and Muslim stayed and became Israeli citizens. There are even Arab members of the Israeli government.
Do survivors of World War II teach hatred and distrust of Germans and Japanese, and vice versa? Why must the fighting continue as it is? Why is Israel's mere existence considered such a stain on the face of the Middle East?
The allies, victorers, didn't split up and create new nations out of Germany or Japan, but the Middle East was carved up, and after Jewish terrorists drove out the British from Palestine they created their own Jewish nation. This despite the fact most people living there weren't Jews. What were they supposed to do, roll over and die?
FalconNo doubt he's a bright guy, but he has some huge blinders when it comes to politics. Unfortunately, his anger overwhelms his rationality.
A blinder many other Americans wear. For instance did you know the US is partially responsible for the massacre of some 200,000 East Timorese, 1/3 the population of East Timor? Then president Ford and Henry Kissinger supported Suharto's Indonesian invasion of East Timor after Portugal granted them their independence in 1975-76 which led to the death of these East Timorese. Ford and Kissinger also supported Gen Pinochet's overthrow of the democraticaly elected government in Chile. There tens of thousands simply "dissappeared" while many thousands more were tortured and or killed. Again all with the support of the US admin. And there are other examples of US support for the overthrow of governments and massacres of people.
Oh, lest you think I'm not American, not only am I one but I also served in the US Army. I'm not anti-American either, I oppose some of the actions the government has taken in the name of the USA.
FalconThe ledger of atrocities is about 10 (if not 100) to 1 in favor of Israel.
You're absolutely right, for every Israeli killed many more Palestinians are killed. Not only does Israel kill more Palestinians but more Palestinians are forced off their land. Israel even has refuseniks who refuse to participate in some government actions, such as serving in the occupied territories.
FalconAs for UAV, it depends: if the project is about building model planes with a camera on them, I would not worry. If the project is about building a flying platform that can fly for hours and can carry 2-3 kg of gears, I would worry about it, and would not make it open source.
Why would you worry? That 2-3 kg of gear being carried for hours could be movie camera equipment, or anything else. Unless you're harmed what does it matter? When I started high school I was in a model rocketry club on campus, at least once a week we'd launch rockets in a field on campus. However now I'd be concerned about any child I had being in such a club now. I'd support them but be concerned about a government label being applied to the child as a "person of interest".
FalconBelieve it or not, there was a time in American history when lots of people carried guns. Used them to catch dinner, too. Shooting a person was considered bad form.
What many don't even know is that even slaves owned firearms through and after the USA Revolutionary war. Slaves even fought in the war, on both sides.
Falconby your comment a gun can be used for shooting people.. or it could be used for shooting people....
Or it can be used to prevent someone else from shooting you. Or it may make a tyrannical government give another thought to an action it's about to take. I don't know about you but I fear government more than I do criminals and terrorists combined. Government is the real terrorist!
FalconI'm registering Republican just for a chance of voting for Ron Paul in the primary, but I doubt I'll be allowed to.
I'm registered no party preference but when the primary comes around I'll switch my registration to Republican just so I can vote for Ron Paul in the primary. Of course afterwards I'll switch back to no party preference.
Falcontension, fanaticism combined with polygamy.
While fanaticism shares responsibility polygamy has nothing to do with it, you're thinking of polygyny. Polygamy is where a person, whether a male or female, can have more than one spouse. It is Polygyny, where a male can have more than one wife, that is mostly practiced. Besides these two, there's also polyandry in which females can have more than one husband.
Falcon
Sure. Try telling your landlord that you going to pay him in "reciprocal commitments".
Some do but in another way. A leaser or renter may be able to have rent reduced or get a refund. I live in an appartment now and when I moved in I received a refund on the rent for watching the building. I'd clean the grounds and building as well as let repairmen in for repairs. Now another renter gets a refund for mowing the lawn.
FalconI think copyright will fail because it serves the interests of those in the developed nations, not the interests of the developing nations.
Copyrights are supposed to encourage creaters to create, by giving them a limited monopoly on what they create. With the monopoly they can then attempt to receive compensation by selling what they create or copies thereof.
Also, those who do not prevent their population from having free and universal access to intellectual works will have more educated citizenry, and will see a rise in productivity as a result.
Fair Use should serve enough for this. With fair use a teacher could copy small parts of a work to pass out to students who then could see how something is done. Of course Fair Use means nothing now in the US.
Also, those cultures who attempt to impose barriers that prevent the proliferation of their cultural views will become marginalized, while those who encourage their culture to spread will find more allies and like-mindedness from the other cultures that do the same.
Agreed!
Falcon
I've used firebird on a POS system I was developing. I've used the embeded version and the server classic version and they work very well. As a matter of fact I learned SQL from firebird. The syntax just works every where else. Very compliant!. You will not find auto indexers, but you can create your own with triggers. In my option, firebird can be used to replace most databases with little work.
Thanks. I'm new to dbs, I took a class of database design a few years ago but haven't done anything since. As a reintroduction to dbs I've been thinking of creating dbs for my movies and music. Though I currently don't have much music right now I'd like to get a turntable and reel-to-reel tape deck, then I'll be buying new vinyl records. However I've got hundreds of movies on both vhs tapes and dvds. This could help me learn enough to develop a db as part of an application suite for photographers, for myself really but I'd like to be able to sale it to other photographers as well, especially if it's going to take me a significant amount of tyme to develop.
FalconThen again there's also Firebird, forgot whose codebase they used.
Firebird uses Borland's Interbase.
FalconI think it depends on what you would like to do. As a Posgres fanboy I will be the first to support it. Been absolutely solid and I've gone upgrading from 7.1 each release up to 8.2.4 with hardly a hitch (except the known things to watch for between 7.x and 8.x). However you do pay the price in terms of flexibility. I'm not a DBA I'm an IT manager, and I mainly need a database to "keep shit in". I also only want ONE database (for this task). Sometimes I'd think I'd like to add on a ticket system, or something else. These things are typically MySQL only. I'm not sure what your appliance does, but if it basically only interacts with itself I'd go postgresql all the way. If you want flexibility then you might want to weigh in your options a bit more. More and more things are picking up Postgres support though.
Thanks. I've been wonder to use PostgreSQL or Firebird for some personal projects. After reading your comment I think I'll try Firebird, but first I'll do some research.
FalconAnd for everyone using MySQL as a half-way serious DB, there's Firebird and PostgreSQL
What do you think of Firebird? I've been thinking of downloading and trying it out.
FalconHTML 5 is plain-old HTML, meaning it's syntactically forgiving (ie. case-insensitive elements and attributes, closing tags optional). That might not be important for you or me or most other Slashdot users but for the vast majority of people that kind of forgiving behaviour is very important.
xml's very strictness means those learning it won't get into bad behaviors. Bad behaviors are hard to get rid of, so it's better to have strict enforcement to begin with.
One other benefit of HTML 5 over XML is that it can fail gracefully on old and unsupportive browsers. With HTML 5 the worst thing you're likely to get is HTML 4.01 support with some text that doesn't style appropriately. With XML you're stuck.
xml can be written to degrade gracefully too. It was a few years ago but in an xml class I took we had to write xml files that could be rendered in older as well as newer versions of IE and Netscape with style sheets and xslt.
FalconIf Windows died in the marketplace and it came down to supporting Linux, I'd place a higher bet on Microsoft buying CodeWeavers than actually porting Office for real.
That would be the smart move for MS, Codeweavers has already put in a lot of work on Crossover. MS would immediately over Office to Linux users. Bundle the two together like Codeweavers does, then over tyme create a port of Office for Linux that doesn't need Crossover. That is it's smart now but if and when Open Office has a big market share it may be too late.
FalconBut who would buy it? The same reasons not to buy and run Windows (whatever they are) also apply to Office
The same people who buy CrossOver from CodeWeavers which allows people to run MS Office on both Linux and Mac OSX, or use WINE for the same purpose. Being a commercial port of WINE it runs a bunch of Windows software. It's not needed for Macs but I may get it to run Photoshop on Linux. First I'll tryout FOOS apps like Inkscape, Cinepaint, and others.
FalconLinux users are a lot quicker to shun each other for imagined violations of Stallmanite philosophy
Not all Linux users worship at the alter of the god Stallman.
Most importantly, the howling, red eyed zealotry needs to go.
Yea, right. Like MS doesn't have it's zealots. It certainly does.
Want to start beating Microsoft, Linux users? Stop thinking and acting like religious fanatics, and in general, grow the hell up
Maybe Microsoft zealots need to follow the same advise.
FalconActually, I expect that Microsoft has already made contingency plans for moving its core products onto either a Linux or a BSD kernel, much like Apple did.
If you're counting Microsoft Office as a core product, then no, they haven't.
That's something I'm a little puzzled about, MS Office. If Microsoft had created a version of Office that could run on Unix, BSD, and Linux they would have opened up a whole new market. Unfortunately for them, but good for most others, they didn't. So Open Office was created and it now runs on many OSes. People try it and they like it so they willing to try other FOSS.
FalconWhy is the desktop the only metric? Why not Samba, OpenOffice, OpenDocument, Mono, open groupware servers and similar projects aand standards?
Don't forget the little guys! You know, small fries like Apache HTTPD, and Linux servers.
Linux may be taking over servers, but Apache is loosing web servers. Just yesterday there was an article on /. Netcraft Says IIS Gaining on Apache.
FalconUntil I see some significant market share gains by OSS (I'll use desktop Linux as the benchmark), at the expense of Microsoft, then I will remain unconvinced of the threat posed by OSS.
Why is the desktop the only metric? Why not Samba, OpenOffice, OpenDocument, Mono, open groupware servers and similar projects aand standards?
Because the desktop is Microsoft's market to keep or loose.
FalconOne problem that the OSS community suffers from is that there are many licensing forms, and that some are in conflict with what's suitable for some end-users.
All of the different licenses confuses users, those who know about them at all, maybe but for developers choice is good.
FalconActually, the only thing holding me back from switching to Linux completely is the horrible and useless installation of new apps. Why can't Linux work like Windows - download a setup file, run it and it's there....
Ah but you can install software in Linux by just downloading and running it. I don't really know much about Linux but I know there's apt-get and rpm among others. And Linspire has CNR for Linspire Linux and they are porting it for other Linux distros. CNR allow you to select those programs you want then click a button to install them all. Uninstalling just another click.
if you don't like it, you choose "Uninstall".
Haha, I've uninstalled a lot of programs in Windows and they almost always leave junk, especially in the registry which can make it unstable. I've even had to manually uninstall software because there wasn't an uninstall and Windows Add/Remove couldn't uninstall.
I descended into dependency hell
And Windows doesn't, didn't, have DLL hell?
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