It's about the impossible dream of total sovereignty. If we ditch the EU we will just end up being forced to adopt its rules, and more US rules, and do what China wants. Look how international trade agreements screw individual countries.
What's wrong with Iceland caused by these international trade agreements again?
If we didn't have those immigrant workers, you wouldn't have any fruit or vegetables from the UK as the Brits who used to do it are too lazy to get up to start work at 5:00am.
Sounds like the UK needs to look at fixing it's educational system, health services to deal with these issues.
if the Brits did the hard graft jobs then the immigrant workers would not be needed
I don't know about 'need', it maybe the case now due to the influx of immigrants coming into the country that were doing a lot of the hard work much cheaper than British people would do at the time and then instilled a culture of laziness. However, I think with the right programmes, these issues, if they really do exist, could be solved. I live in Northern Ireland currently (which is part of the UK) and what I see here is different. I encounter many hard working British people (particularly in skilled work), however they all seem to be working hard to move out of the UK and move to the USA, Japan, Hong Kong etc. The immigrants here seem to be taking up a lot of the unskilled work, none of which seems that demanding.
My company is really seeking very hard skilled individuals, particularly those that have system/network administration and devops experience/knowledge, even if a good portion of that is hobby work and so on.
The British people that have these skill sets typically are scrambling to move out of Northern Ireland. We don't really find any immigrants with the experience, passion or knowledge.
you wouldn't have enough nurses or doctors either.
You know, I get fedup of this bullshit racism you guys keep portraying against the British.
Britain wants foreigners, Britain doesn't want the free movement of people. 99% of people who do unskilled work isn't benefiting British society well, we can see that. We look at the potential and whether someone be needed if they're non-EU citizens, but EU citizens? There is no restrictions, so we get more of the people that are inducing problematic situations over the people we need.
If we were on an Australian point system for all immigrants, this would very much solve both issues. We wouldn't do racist actions like give free access to people with no restrictions and then discriminate against the rest by looking at their credentials. Every immigrant should be treated equally. The UK would get the people it needs and the people that cause problematic situations would be restricted, preventing social and political issues we have now.
I'm more concerned about how the education system seems to have declined and general skill pool has declined over the years when it comes to hiring people.
I do find it ironic that you say "No central control, no central laws", given that the UK has one of the most centralised unitary governments in the world. Nearly half the Scottish voters expressed their displeasure about this recently
The funnier bit is how they are the ones that want to stay in the EU and have enough of a say to sway the boat repeatedly in this matter.
Continental Europe tends to be pro tighter integration.
It really is amazing when you watch the EU parliament. Every time they fail at something (which they won't admit to), they turn around and say they need more integration despite the fact the problem was that they caused it with integration in the first place.
I'm not too bothered if Scotland decides to leave the UK, however, I am going to quote a BBC article (currency is in GBP):
income from tax was 10,000 per person - that included a geographic share of oil revenue from around the Scottish coast. It represented 8.2% of revenue - slightly below the UK figure and expenditure was 12,800 per person, or 9.3%. That was 1,400 per person more than the UK average.
They better have a plan to deal with that before they leave.
Why not blame the employers for going for the cheapest labour?
It's not about cheap labour. There isn't enough housing, health services, work, general capacity, never mind school capacity etc. to go around, both to nationals and foreigners.
See a problem?
Yeah, you're an Anonymous Coward, so I'm probably just talking to a troll.
You're confusing the issue. When Cameron initially went into to discuss reform plans, one of those was to suspend the free movement of people, not refugees (this then turned into a deflection of benefits suspension). In the South West of England, the lowest estimate of Polish immigrants is about 3000 a week according to the Office of National Statistics in 2014 (and that's just Polish people), people are fedup of the EU because they are seeing the actual impact:
Unskilled work seems to be taken up by non-British people, British people seem unable to find work and if they do, they can't afford to have a decent life style. The National Health Service is now over taxed to the point that people are put on long waiting lists of months just to get blood tests in some parts of the UK. Immigrants from outside of the EU are being discriminated against because the free movement of people has such uncontrolled immigration into the EU, it's leading to strict policies outside of the EU. The Office of National Statistics actually stated we roughly are reducing 3000 non-EU foreigners a year currently. Families outside of the EU have no chance of staying together, they're being torn apart. This is racist having one rule for some immigrants and another for others. The benefits system is currently being abused to the point that vulnerable people are literally dying and/or going through significant hardships because the system can't cope with the increase of benefits usage (some politicians like to take statistics for non-EU foreigners that state they mostly work to argue against this).
These are things that residents of the UK have been observing. Unfortunately, any sort of discourse on the matter is often seen as racist (even amongst people that share the same opinions), so you won't see many people even discuss it. Generally the few that do, a few of them will be racists that are on the extreme end, which mis-represents sane British people.
No it isn't. I have a hundred tabs open here and Chrome doesn't have a hundred processes open. There are no 'bad tabs' because this doesn't happen in Firefox with the same legitimate pages.
Given that there are still some hideous problems with YouTube in the wake of the forced integration with G+ and then the unwinding of that mess -- could Google please focus on fixing these bugs
Agreed, deeper integration is necessary this time. No more bugs.
Unfortunately, the lack of availability of SQL Server on Linux, is restricting our options when times come to pick the infrastructure.
Honestly, your choice of 'expansive applications' is what's limiting your infrastructure practices typically.
I am welcoming this initiative from MS that will enable us to move from some pieces of software on Linux rather than being stuck on Windows.
It'll probably be a 2nd class citizen like the other products Microsoft offers on other platforms. Enough to get a foot in the door in Linux shops, create dependency, then suggest you migrate over to Windows to solve your problems. It's just a waste of time for existing Windows environments.
I don't care;D "XNU as in X is not Unix" is just a name. Bottom line it is Unix.
My belief is that Unix is a series of standards, particularly those that Unix certification certifies against. Such as, the Unix certification OS X is certified contains POSIX standards that can do things like fork() without exec() just fine, something OS X can't (amusingly the Windows Subsystem for UNIX-based Applications can actually do this fine). Sure, OS X passed it's certification, but I really just think that the certification never fully tested functionality like forking, Posix threading proper, because anyone that has any reasonable experience with it will tell you the OS X implementation is broken. Those are just 'critical' things I think that shouldn't be broken on an 'Unix'.
I understand you meant SSD. But how should copying large files stop applications is beyond me.
Here is a video of a large file transaction while OS X does it's classic beach ball thing, this is another application that tries to read the drive at the same time on a HDD. The moment the file operation complete, the other application unblocks. Looks like a blocking I/O operation to me. I can replicate this behavior easily by using large chunks with dd copying large block sizes of/dev/zero and doing a 'time cat' on another file (just did the command just now):
Aron:~ ash$ cat soup.txt >/dev/null
real 1m1.467s
However on old Macs/Powerbooks the ATA interface is shitty, no idea if it lacks DMA or what the problem is, and there GUI gets a bit sluggish if you do back ground file operations.
This was the latest and beefiest MBP you could get in 2013, the last model that had a real optical drive, ethernet ports etc. OS X identifies it as a 'MacBook Pro (15-inch, Mid 2012)'. But you know what, I have reproduced the exact same behavior on a mid-2015 model when a friend of mine decided to upgrade his 256GB SSD to a 1TB HDD, so I highly doubt it's an issue restricted to 'old models'.
If you experience particular problems it might be a certain model? Or you have a bad HD - board connection?
I have been able to reproduce this on every Mac I've ever handled that had a HDD, going back as far back as Puma. That's a lot of hardware to be bad. Fresh, old installs, it doesn't matter. I had a very large thread on the Apple support forums for a time before it 'disappeared' (I would link it to you otherwise) that had far more detail than I really care to write up and test again. But, with 1TB SSD drives becoming more popular, I guess Apple's solution will be long term, "just use an SSD.", since the issue isn't really noticeable on one.
Maybe in name, like they claimed Unix support. But, I just verified, again, that even after all this time... you cannot fork() (without exec) when it cannot guarantee you that the libraries you are using are safe from async-signal-safe. The POSIX standard demands that your code can be forked, even in a signal handler at any time. I could go test how pthreads are handled again, but I very much imagine it will be the same BS.
"We will make Mac Os X the best platform for Java!"
Yeah, I wrote stuff in Java 1.1 that was fully compatible with Sun JRE 1.3, MS Java 1.1. Used awt as a the graphical interface and on OS X, it would just randomly replace certain awt widgets with Aqua widgets and cause different parts to flash in a way to induce seizures. The 'better' support that was offered by Apple was access to an additional set of APIs to write Aqua natively which was ridiculous, particularly because it meant writing custom code only for OS X and I couldn't figure out how to even to get that working at the time if I was willing to maintain two different UIs without distributing two different binaries.
Yes, you might consider "Java Programmers" not geeks... however most geeks I know left C++ behind long ago. And obviously non of them is working on windows, otherwise they would not be geeks.
Such stereotyping. I guess I can't be a geek under your definition since I'm platform agnostic which in turn means I use Windows depending on circumstances.
a) UI not simplified to the max, but to the most ridicules way
I've used OS X for a very long time and the UI has always been somewhat limited...
b) Configuration options you need all the time "hidden somewhere"... just straight forward "I install something new" works out of the box
Typically, the 'hidden' configuration options in Windows aren't hidden, they're just in the group policy editor that few people seem to be aware of. There is a high degree of customization that exists in Windows that a lot of people aren't very familiar with apparently.
random failures, misbehaviors and glitches, just like windows, and no one knows how to fix it
I don't know what you're speaking of. I've pretty much accurately tracked down every failure/misbehaviour/glitch that I encounter more than three times ever, even to go as far as debugging runtime environments, an operating system subsystem or the kernel it self. A few times I've even diagnosed a problem where people were complaining a graphics driver was terrible was crashing the system was actually an AMD processor claiming it supported certain instruction sets but then stubbed some of them causing an issue that should have never occurred to begin with. But I have to say this, on Windows, the tools for debugging issues are excellent. Event viewer, core dumps, crash dumps and the debugging tools are pretty top notch...
stupid things like: oh, cloud sharing is active
That's not really a stupid thing, a stupid thing is like... When you buy the Mac, you setup Wake on Lan on the thing, then Apple decides in their next OS update, that for your hardware (because they didn't do it for all of course), the EFI will intentionally power down the Ethernet connector, regardless of the power setting in Energy saving when it's turned off, preventing you from using WOL despite it being advertised as a feature. No, it's not just the matter of resetting the SMC either.
Or how about the fact that I/O scheduling after all these years is still broken and blocking. Dare you use a HDD instead of a SDD (which typically happens when you want something more than 250GB), applications are blocked. Meanwhile Windows and Linux on the same hardware are more responsive than the hardware 'd
A gaming GPU. The Mac Pro ships with a workstation GPU, optimized for a completely different set of operations than those used to render a frame of WoW, so it does so poorly.
If I can run WoW on an EeePC 701, something sound really wrong with your hardware/OS.
Are you sure it didn't work on Windows on the same hardware?
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I understand your confusion, this should explain how the European Union shapes UK immigration policy.
Farage also claims to be pro-Europe, but not pro-European Union.
What's wrong with Iceland caused by these international trade agreements again?
Note: I am not the grand parent poster.
Sounds like the UK needs to look at fixing it's educational system, health services to deal with these issues.
I don't know about 'need', it maybe the case now due to the influx of immigrants coming into the country that were doing a lot of the hard work much cheaper than British people would do at the time and then instilled a culture of laziness. However, I think with the right programmes, these issues, if they really do exist, could be solved. I live in Northern Ireland currently (which is part of the UK) and what I see here is different. I encounter many hard working British people (particularly in skilled work), however they all seem to be working hard to move out of the UK and move to the USA, Japan, Hong Kong etc. The immigrants here seem to be taking up a lot of the unskilled work, none of which seems that demanding.
My company is really seeking very hard skilled individuals, particularly those that have system/network administration and devops experience/knowledge, even if a good portion of that is hobby work and so on.
The British people that have these skill sets typically are scrambling to move out of Northern Ireland. We don't really find any immigrants with the experience, passion or knowledge.
You know, I get fedup of this bullshit racism you guys keep portraying against the British.
Britain wants foreigners, Britain doesn't want the free movement of people. 99% of people who do unskilled work isn't benefiting British society well, we can see that. We look at the potential and whether someone be needed if they're non-EU citizens, but EU citizens? There is no restrictions, so we get more of the people that are inducing problematic situations over the people we need.
If we were on an Australian point system for all immigrants, this would very much solve both issues. We wouldn't do racist actions like give free access to people with no restrictions and then discriminate against the rest by looking at their credentials. Every immigrant should be treated equally. The UK would get the people it needs and the people that cause problematic situations would be restricted, preventing social and political issues we have now.
Neither is Iceland, but they have free trade and tax free travel still with Europe.
I'm more concerned about how the education system seems to have declined and general skill pool has declined over the years when it comes to hiring people.
The funnier bit is how they are the ones that want to stay in the EU and have enough of a say to sway the boat repeatedly in this matter.
It really is amazing when you watch the EU parliament. Every time they fail at something (which they won't admit to), they turn around and say they need more integration despite the fact the problem was that they caused it with integration in the first place.
I'm not too bothered if Scotland decides to leave the UK, however, I am going to quote a BBC article (currency is in GBP):
They better have a plan to deal with that before they leave.
It's not about cheap labour. There isn't enough housing, health services, work, general capacity, never mind school capacity etc. to go around, both to nationals and foreigners.
Yeah, you're an Anonymous Coward, so I'm probably just talking to a troll.
Sorry, by 'lowest estimate of Polish immigrants', I was speaking of Polish immigrants moving into the South West a week.
At this risk of making me sound like a racist...
You're confusing the issue. When Cameron initially went into to discuss reform plans, one of those was to suspend the free movement of people, not refugees (this then turned into a deflection of benefits suspension). In the South West of England, the lowest estimate of Polish immigrants is about 3000 a week according to the Office of National Statistics in 2014 (and that's just Polish people), people are fedup of the EU because they are seeing the actual impact:
Unskilled work seems to be taken up by non-British people, British people seem unable to find work and if they do, they can't afford to have a decent life style.
The National Health Service is now over taxed to the point that people are put on long waiting lists of months just to get blood tests in some parts of the UK.
Immigrants from outside of the EU are being discriminated against because the free movement of people has such uncontrolled immigration into the EU, it's leading to strict policies outside of the EU. The Office of National Statistics actually stated we roughly are reducing 3000 non-EU foreigners a year currently. Families outside of the EU have no chance of staying together, they're being torn apart. This is racist having one rule for some immigrants and another for others.
The benefits system is currently being abused to the point that vulnerable people are literally dying and/or going through significant hardships because the system can't cope with the increase of benefits usage (some politicians like to take statistics for non-EU foreigners that state they mostly work to argue against this).
These are things that residents of the UK have been observing. Unfortunately, any sort of discourse on the matter is often seen as racist (even amongst people that share the same opinions), so you won't see many people even discuss it. Generally the few that do, a few of them will be racists that are on the extreme end, which mis-represents sane British people.
No it isn't. I have a hundred tabs open here and Chrome doesn't have a hundred processes open. There are no 'bad tabs' because this doesn't happen in Firefox with the same legitimate pages.
Chrome is the only browser I've used in recent years that has managed to go beyond 3.2GB to something really ridiculous like 19GB.
Agreed, deeper integration is necessary this time. No more bugs.
Honestly, your choice of 'expansive applications' is what's limiting your infrastructure practices typically.
It'll probably be a 2nd class citizen like the other products Microsoft offers on other platforms. Enough to get a foot in the door in Linux shops, create dependency, then suggest you migrate over to Windows to solve your problems. It's just a waste of time for existing Windows environments.
My belief is that Unix is a series of standards, particularly those that Unix certification certifies against. Such as, the Unix certification OS X is certified contains POSIX standards that can do things like fork() without exec() just fine, something OS X can't (amusingly the Windows Subsystem for UNIX-based Applications can actually do this fine). Sure, OS X passed it's certification, but I really just think that the certification never fully tested functionality like forking, Posix threading proper, because anyone that has any reasonable experience with it will tell you the OS X implementation is broken. Those are just 'critical' things I think that shouldn't be broken on an 'Unix'.
Here is a video of a large file transaction while OS X does it's classic beach ball thing, this is another application that tries to read the drive at the same time on a HDD. The moment the file operation complete, the other application unblocks. Looks like a blocking I/O operation to me. I can replicate this behavior easily by using large chunks with dd copying large block sizes of /dev/zero and doing a 'time cat' on another file (just did the command just now):
Aron:~ ash$ cat soup.txt > /dev/null
real 1m1.467s
This was the latest and beefiest MBP you could get in 2013, the last model that had a real optical drive, ethernet ports etc. OS X identifies it as a 'MacBook Pro (15-inch, Mid 2012)'. But you know what, I have reproduced the exact same behavior on a mid-2015 model when a friend of mine decided to upgrade his 256GB SSD to a 1TB HDD, so I highly doubt it's an issue restricted to 'old models'.
I have been able to reproduce this on every Mac I've ever handled that had a HDD, going back as far back as Puma. That's a lot of hardware to be bad. Fresh, old installs, it doesn't matter. I had a very large thread on the Apple support forums for a time before it 'disappeared' (I would link it to you otherwise) that had far more detail than I really care to write up and test again. But, with 1TB SSD drives becoming more popular, I guess Apple's solution will be long term, "just use an SSD.", since the issue isn't really noticeable on one.
I meant to say 'SSD'.
X Is Not Unix
Maybe in name, like they claimed Unix support. But, I just verified, again, that even after all this time... you cannot fork() (without exec) when it cannot guarantee you that the libraries you are using are safe from async-signal-safe. The POSIX standard demands that your code can be forked, even in a signal handler at any time. I could go test how pthreads are handled again, but I very much imagine it will be the same BS.
Yeah, I wrote stuff in Java 1.1 that was fully compatible with Sun JRE 1.3, MS Java 1.1. Used awt as a the graphical interface and on OS X, it would just randomly replace certain awt widgets with Aqua widgets and cause different parts to flash in a way to induce seizures. The 'better' support that was offered by Apple was access to an additional set of APIs to write Aqua natively which was ridiculous, particularly because it meant writing custom code only for OS X and I couldn't figure out how to even to get that working at the time if I was willing to maintain two different UIs without distributing two different binaries.
Such stereotyping. I guess I can't be a geek under your definition since I'm platform agnostic which in turn means I use Windows depending on circumstances.
I've used OS X for a very long time and the UI has always been somewhat limited...
Typically, the 'hidden' configuration options in Windows aren't hidden, they're just in the group policy editor that few people seem to be aware of. There is a high degree of customization that exists in Windows that a lot of people aren't very familiar with apparently.
I don't know what you're speaking of. I've pretty much accurately tracked down every failure/misbehaviour/glitch that I encounter more than three times ever, even to go as far as debugging runtime environments, an operating system subsystem or the kernel it self. A few times I've even diagnosed a problem where people were complaining a graphics driver was terrible was crashing the system was actually an AMD processor claiming it supported certain instruction sets but then stubbed some of them causing an issue that should have never occurred to begin with. But I have to say this, on Windows, the tools for debugging issues are excellent. Event viewer, core dumps, crash dumps and the debugging tools are pretty top notch...
That's not really a stupid thing, a stupid thing is like... When you buy the Mac, you setup Wake on Lan on the thing, then Apple decides in their next OS update, that for your hardware (because they didn't do it for all of course), the EFI will intentionally power down the Ethernet connector, regardless of the power setting in Energy saving when it's turned off, preventing you from using WOL despite it being advertised as a feature. No, it's not just the matter of resetting the SMC either.
Or how about the fact that I/O scheduling after all these years is still broken and blocking. Dare you use a HDD instead of a SDD (which typically happens when you want something more than 250GB), applications are blocked. Meanwhile Windows and Linux on the same hardware are more responsive than the hardware 'd
14 years ago?
If I can run WoW on an EeePC 701, something sound really wrong with your hardware/OS.
Are you sure it didn't work on Windows on the same hardware?
You mean like fighting the final boss in Prince of Persia to unlock the spreadsheets?
I guess the EU could threaten to join more poor economic countries and cause another Zerg rush into the UK.
Running a modern game through qemu/exagear on a Raspberry Pi acceptably well will 'not be an issue', seems a bit of a fantasy to me...
I've ran Wireshark on "hardened" Windows 10 machines and they don't do anything like phoning home. Can you explain why this didn't happen for me?