if you noticed... the source said "pre-order sales of close to 4 million nationwide"... meaning they sold $4 million dollars worth of pre-sales... whereas this says that halo 2 has pre-sold 1 million units...
No, it is a wonderful innovation that needs to be emphasized more.
please explain... how is a system that is designed to remove significance of my vote better then a system where I am represented individually?
but nothing is changing.
If people vote to have the electoral college votes become distributed proportionally compared to a "all for one" style now... yes, that is change.
Eh, I thought the system as such worked just fine.
I think a system in which the majority of the voting population chose a man who was not elected president is a system that doesn't work. This is a democracy, right?
So your implication that Gore should have been put into office, that this was the will of the people, is not supported by any facts
yes it is... the majority of the voting public chose Gore to be in office instead of Bush.
That is completely uninteresting, on any level. Under the current system, you cannot reasonably compare votes from one states to another. There is no such thing as a "popular vote" right now. Because of how the system works, you might get more people likely to vote in one state than in another. For example, in TX, people will be less likely to vote than in FL, because Bush was a shoo-in in TX. If we had a true popular vote, the numbers would be very different, because people would not be discouraged from voting.
Interesting enough that you replied... =-}
And yes, you can compare votes, because everybody in this great country that chooses to register and chooses to vote is considered equal. My vote is as important as your vote. This is democracy.. what we claim to be. You are arguing that voter turnout influences the importance of the votes. It does not.
You say that like it is a bad thing. The Constitution doesn't require a popular vote for President, and I am not in favor of it.
That's the problem! The electoral college is sadly out-dated and needs to be replaced. People think changing to proportional votes is a "more accurate representation" of the popular vote. When in fact, it can lead to a situation that is FAR from an accurate represenation of the popluar vote. BTW, I am confused, what are you "not in favor of" exactly... your wording is hard for me to understand.
It's not about directions: it has always been this way. How do you think John Quincy Adams became President?
Just because it's always been that way doesn't mean it's the right way to do things. After the debacle that was the 2000 election, I think everybody can agree the current system doesn't work. Our current system put a man into office that wasn't the choice of the majority of voting Americans... [sarcasm]Yeah, we've got a GREAT system![/sarcasm]
great... so now we go from a system that sorta works on popular vote to a system that could potentially lead to the farthest thing FROM a popular vote... until the electoral college system is revised or abandoned, the "proportial voting" is a HORRIBLE idea..
in case you weren't following along:
proportional voting starts becoming common in states around the union. nader gets one electoral college vote, another "third party" guy gets some... so what happens when nobody gets above 270 electoral college votes?! oh, it falls to the house, where every state = 1 vote.
When all of California equals one vote, and all of Montana also equals one vote this is NOT a push in the right direction... this is FARTHER away from going on the popular vote then the system we have now.
SAY NO TO PROPORTIONAL DISTRIBUTION!
As *NIX and linux become increasingly popular in the business place people are looking to push Microsoft out of the field, replacing servers and workstations with free alternatives like Linux and some BSDs. This is causing kernels and OS designed for server performance to progress to desktop solutions. Do you feel that *NIX should stay in the server marketplace and focus solely on that market, or do you think moving the OS/kernel into a desktop role is "A Good Thing"??
look at these questions:
16. Nearly 100 American media resources today are owned by only 5 corporations. While the Senate's overruling of the Federal Communications Commission's controversial 3-to-2 decision to further deregulate media ownership rules in June of 2003 is a source of encouragement, most Americans want more variety in their sources of news and entertainment. What will you do to ensure that Americans have accurate sources of information to base their democratic decisions on?
that is 100 times better of a question then the crap we saw the other night! I want to know how the candidate is going to fix things in MY country before worrying about someone elses!
11. Why won't the candidates address the difference between civil marriage and religious marriage? Do they recognize the significance that this demarcation holds as a stand against discrimination? Do they realize how their unwillingness to address this issue impacts every aspect of GLBT's (Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual, Transgender), and their families', lives? Are they aware that when political issues call civil rights into question that hate crimes rise exponentially?
I'm glad somebody is bringing up gay issues in the debate. This is important to Americans.
whew... maybe someday I can use this to seal up that matter in anti-time I've got in my backyard. The cool part is that it keeps getting smaller, so I guess I don't need to really worry.
right, because developing countries produce a whole lot of greenhouse gas.. compared to the US that produces 25% of ALL greenhouse gases destroying our world... I'm not saying Bush went against support.. I'm just saying that it's a good treaty and he should be willing to support it... unless of course he wants greenhouse gases to destroy our environment.
I hope they start the movie out with a review of the first one... by going to the "movie wall" and picking out Spaceballs 1 and then watching key portions... especially the part where Dark Helment goes head on into the control panels after dropping out of ludicrious speed.. and then some comment about how we were "never supposed to see that again"...
they didn't... you have to understand what the term "pre-sales order of 4 million" means... it's a symantics issue... not syntax
if you noticed... the source said "pre-order sales of close to 4 million nationwide"... meaning they sold $4 million dollars worth of pre-sales... whereas this says that halo 2 has pre-sold 1 million units...
It is a republic.
oh yeah, well then nothing I said applies if we're in a republic...
just curious... would you call yourself a conservative or liberal... dem/rep.?
No, it is a wonderful innovation that needs to be emphasized more.
please explain... how is a system that is designed to remove significance of my vote better then a system where I am represented individually?
but nothing is changing.
If people vote to have the electoral college votes become distributed proportionally compared to a "all for one" style now... yes, that is change.
Eh, I thought the system as such worked just fine.
I think a system in which the majority of the voting population chose a man who was not elected president is a system that doesn't work. This is a democracy, right?
So your implication that Gore should have been put into office, that this was the will of the people, is not supported by any facts
yes it is... the majority of the voting public chose Gore to be in office instead of Bush.
That is completely uninteresting, on any level. Under the current system, you cannot reasonably compare votes from one states to another. There is no such thing as a "popular vote" right now. Because of how the system works, you might get more people likely to vote in one state than in another. For example, in TX, people will be less likely to vote than in FL, because Bush was a shoo-in in TX. If we had a true popular vote, the numbers would be very different, because people would not be discouraged from voting.
Interesting enough that you replied... =-} And yes, you can compare votes, because everybody in this great country that chooses to register and chooses to vote is considered equal. My vote is as important as your vote. This is democracy.. what we claim to be. You are arguing that voter turnout influences the importance of the votes. It does not.
You say that like it is a bad thing. The Constitution doesn't require a popular vote for President, and I am not in favor of it.
That's the problem! The electoral college is sadly out-dated and needs to be replaced. People think changing to proportional votes is a "more accurate representation" of the popular vote. When in fact, it can lead to a situation that is FAR from an accurate represenation of the popluar vote. BTW, I am confused, what are you "not in favor of" exactly... your wording is hard for me to understand.
It's not about directions: it has always been this way. How do you think John Quincy Adams became President?
Just because it's always been that way doesn't mean it's the right way to do things. After the debacle that was the 2000 election, I think everybody can agree the current system doesn't work. Our current system put a man into office that wasn't the choice of the majority of voting Americans... [sarcasm]Yeah, we've got a GREAT system![/sarcasm]
great... so now we go from a system that sorta works on popular vote to a system that could potentially lead to the farthest thing FROM a popular vote... until the electoral college system is revised or abandoned, the "proportial voting" is a HORRIBLE idea.. in case you weren't following along: proportional voting starts becoming common in states around the union. nader gets one electoral college vote, another "third party" guy gets some... so what happens when nobody gets above 270 electoral college votes?! oh, it falls to the house, where every state = 1 vote. When all of California equals one vote, and all of Montana also equals one vote this is NOT a push in the right direction... this is FARTHER away from going on the popular vote then the system we have now. SAY NO TO PROPORTIONAL DISTRIBUTION!
As *NIX and linux become increasingly popular in the business place people are looking to push Microsoft out of the field, replacing servers and workstations with free alternatives like Linux and some BSDs. This is causing kernels and OS designed for server performance to progress to desktop solutions. Do you feel that *NIX should stay in the server marketplace and focus solely on that market, or do you think moving the OS/kernel into a desktop role is "A Good Thing"??
look at these questions:
16. Nearly 100 American media resources today are owned by only 5 corporations. While the Senate's overruling of the Federal Communications Commission's controversial 3-to-2 decision to further deregulate media ownership rules in June of 2003 is a source of encouragement, most Americans want more variety in their sources of news and entertainment. What will you do to ensure that Americans have accurate sources of information to base their democratic decisions on?
that is 100 times better of a question then the crap we saw the other night! I want to know how the candidate is going to fix things in MY country before worrying about someone elses!
11. Why won't the candidates address the difference between civil marriage and religious marriage? Do they recognize the significance that this demarcation holds as a stand against discrimination? Do they realize how their unwillingness to address this issue impacts every aspect of GLBT's (Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual, Transgender), and their families', lives? Are they aware that when political issues call civil rights into question that hate crimes rise exponentially?
I'm glad somebody is bringing up gay issues in the debate. This is important to Americans.
whew... maybe someday I can use this to seal up that matter in anti-time I've got in my backyard. The cool part is that it keeps getting smaller, so I guess I don't need to really worry.
so basically what Neil Stephenson wrote about in The Diamond Age
whoops.. =-{ sorry for being a retard... Slashdot - the best place to be told you are retarded =-}
right, because developing countries produce a whole lot of greenhouse gas.. compared to the US that produces 25% of ALL greenhouse gases destroying our world... I'm not saying Bush went against support.. I'm just saying that it's a good treaty and he should be willing to support it... unless of course he wants greenhouse gases to destroy our environment.
too bad Bush abandoned this wonderful attempt to save our planet...
I hope they start the movie out with a review of the first one... by going to the "movie wall" and picking out Spaceballs 1 and then watching key portions... especially the part where Dark Helment goes head on into the control panels after dropping out of ludicrious speed.. and then some comment about how we were "never supposed to see that again"...