You are very correct about the electrolytic capacitors and the battery. Also, the thermal stress the motherboard and the CPU itself (ceramics) would have to sustain would destroy them.
However, I'd like to correct you about the ice causing short circuit. Actually, pure water (the one that you get when condensig water vapor) is a very good insulator. And ice is even better. Ice insulates even if the water contained impurities.
True. These fluoro-carbons should be actually banned from production. Wonder how come 3M produces is.
And regarding the self.solving problem: it has an even farther reach, since by the time NZ is under the ocean, New York city will be, too. Quite a said perspective, if you ask me. But very likely, with the current CO2 production, where USA is the conutry with most CO2 emission pro capita. Now THAT is a self-solving system.
Sorry, this is just black humor on my part, I am quite bitter about how the Earth is going down the drain and noone seems to give a sh*t about it.
Fight fire with fire, I say. If people spout FUD and what is essentially meaningless words ("rock solid" this, "UNIX like" that) why should I retract from spreading FUD about *BSD and Slackware?
You know, I think this is really the scum of the world. Fight evil with evil? Risking to be offtopic, but I think Jesus' words contain a big lesson for you (and anyone else, for that matter).
Really, I LOVE Slackware! Everything is so clear, you exaclty know what each script is doing, and you really don't feel the need for any automated configuration utility (which sometimes just messes up everything). It's not SysV, but I don't care. As long as I can do absolutely EVERYTHING Linux is good at, I am happy. If you want a desktop Linux, go with Caldera 2.4 eDesktop or Corel Linux. But if you need a fileserver, webserver, router, FTP, DHCP, DNS etc etc look no further but Slackware.
My history with Slackware dates about 5 years back. I installed it without any problem (even though I have never worked with Linux before) and I have found the install rather simple. Then I installed it on several other computers, and it everytime went fine. And then, they gave me this "best Linux distro of all" RedHat 4.1 and one guy even told me it had a "graphical install". Well, it was disappointing as hell, it wasn't graphical, as you all know, and it wasn't any easier than Slackware, at least not for me.
I dunno, Slackware just clicks with my brain the right way. Way to go, Patrick!!!!
(as for those that criticize Slackware 7.1 because it won't have kernel 2.4.0, let me say that I don't give a friggin dime about it. I prefere a stable 2.2 kernel. I don't think my MASQ box at home would urgently need USB support, huh?)
We got an E450 in our lab a month ago, and I must say it's a pretty powerful machine. It has 2 US II at 400 MHz, and 1 GB RAM. I calculated that we got it cheaper than the price of an average quad Xeon 550 MHz system, with similar configuration! Now, I don't intend to confute those of you who say that Intl-based Linux systems are so cheap in comparison with the E 450; all I am saying is that Intel doesn't necessarily mean "cheap".
Disclaimer: we might have gotten the E 450 at a lower price, since my company in general is buying Sun servers like hot cookies: we recently had to check whether the 3rd floor will resist the weight of all the E 6000 we stacked up there!
Retro seems to be exactly what I'm looking for, hoping that the learning curve is not too steep. (I see he went from assembler to Forth pretty quickly in his rewrite... I am interested in the part where you have the core in assembler that will interpret Forth).
Anyone wishing he was there? In 1996 trying out one of his/her first algorythms on an Eniac or similar bigmomma computer, when assembler would be considered a high-level programming language? Being a pioneer, having your name mentioned more like an ubiquitous piece of standard code or part of a CPU ("the ALU is usually connected to the Haggar through a FIFO..."):o)
OTOH (OT): I am entertaining the idea of making a little FORTH compiler that would be also some sort of OS. Anyone with some good references/resources that coud help (ok, I know, read the Linux kernel source...)
Maybe it's Jobs' fault, too. The Mac platform could have been much more widespread if jobs didn't decide to cut the clones. Obviously, Jobs didn't believe Apple could be the PPC Microsoft (and for a good reason: he was scared shitless of BeOS) so he wanted Apple to have much better control over their profits. So, the clones died and Apple has a much better profit margin, but the Mac marketshare is about 5% (worldwide, in US is about 10%) of the personal computer market. Obviously, Macs are considered expensive. For the same reason, there is not much hope for extending the market share, rather to leverage the very loyal customer base. Well, Sun wants more, and wants something different: I bet Linux will be much better supported, sicne it's rapidly increasing marketshare. Windows is much better supported for obvious reasons. Solaris is much better supported for (differeent) obvious reasons. There is a Java 2 platform being developed by Sun, for BeOS. That means Sun expects BeOS to increase it's marketshare, too. Maybe not in the PCs but in the IAs. Who knows? But the point is, Sun looks at an OS that will be widespread in the long run, and Linux (Servers and desktops) and BeOS (desktops and IAs) have a good shot at it.
First of all, there's a 2 year of appeals and escalating to the supreme court. Second, at the time the final decision will be made, the Bushor the Gore administration will be in power, and BOTH of these presidential candidates have expressed their sympaties for MS (expecially Bush), so it may even happen that the new DOJ people will drop the case.
Besides, just to show how irrilevant the decision is, the stock market on Nasdaq after hours is howing MSFT up 3/4 to 71 1/4 as I am typing this.
And of course, as someone already noted, it's not the DOJ who decides, but the judge.
He states that the excitement, the art, of systems research is gone
That sounds.. horrible to my ears! I really enjoy digital electronics/CPU/system software development. That's what I studied at the Uni, and I dream of working in that field. Please do't tell me it's too late!
According to this image Mr. William Gates III is not anymore with us. Let us all show our piety and meditate on the big questions of life: "Where do you want to go today?"
Beijing has banned one of Taiwan's top pop stars after she sang the island's national anthem at last Saturday's inauguration of President Chen Shui-bian.
A-Mei, who is wildly popular on the mainland, has been permanently blacklisted in China, officials said.
US soft drinks giant Coca-Cola has been forced to drop a multi-million dollar advertising campaign in China featuring A-Mei.
Judging from the Wireless Session Protocol Specfication at http://www.wapforum.org/what/technical.h tm it looks like most of the session handling stuff is geared to handling the connection between the phone and proxy.
Well, of course! That is because the air interface (or radio-transmissio part) is located in that segment, and which is the source of interruptions, timeouts, lost packets and delays. The air interface is much less reliable that the Internet in general (we ae talking celular network here, not (yet) 3G), so all those complicated handshakes, receipt and delivery confirmations explained in the WSP (wireless session protocol) specs make tremendous sense. The WAP protocol stack is a little bit like X.25, but at even lower speed. However, WAP is also scalable, it's designed to support future air transmission techniques, coming with G3, like GPRS, for example, or some of those non-cellular radio networks you already have in some US cities (Ricochet, for example).
What is so difficult about it? I actually have signed a NDA so I am not going to tell details here, but our solutions all use Netscape Enterprise Server, but I have also used Apache on Linux to serve WAP. Actually WML and WMLS. The logic behind generating WML and WMLS is the same old **** that today generates dynamic HTML.
Really no big deal, just the syntax is different, and the mind has to be set to think little (cell phone display and keypad).
Thanks for clueing me in with the answer to the second thought. But as for [..] the first question, it has no effect at all against the recent legal action MS pulled against/. because all MS is claiming is copyright infringement. I see that others think alike. But I still have my doubts, not because of what MS claims in the case, but because of how/. designed their response letter, and thus their defense. It's clear that/. wants to involve a more broad scope into the picture, namely the legitimity AND usefulness of MS' copiright./. sent this message (IMHO) "Kerberos is perceived and accepted as an open and universally useful protocol, and your stance may piss off many in the industry. Do you really want to do this?". In light of this, broader scope of/.'s defense, I guess Neuman's proposed rewrite will be beneficial to/. because it will re-enforce their position in the public eye. IMHO & IANAL (which means, I accept constructive criticism of my ideas)
Let the simple and readable language not fool you - this reply to Microsoft is probably one of the best planned and deadly arrows at MS' heart. Think about it for a moment: for MS to continue contrasting Slashdot on the issue will mean, from now on, to air their dirty laundry as to Kerberos and embrace-and-extend, one of the tactics they are in court for with the DOJ. With this letter, Slashdot has signaled to Microsoft that they are going to use a very painful (for MS) defense. Slashdot may loose, but the loss for MS will be horrible. A little bit like those amphibious animals that have some sort of poison in their tissues: they have very livel colours that warn any predator not to venture into trying to eat them. The prey would die, but the attacking predator would die, too, or at least it would badly regret. Ummmm.... ok, biology is not my strong point, but you get my point:o)
Or should I just wait for more WAP products and services to come out?? I r
There is at least one product that I know of, called MAX, from Nokia (check it out here
A little snippet from the Nokia page: In addition to the portal, Nokia Artus MAX Platform offers an optional service, MAX Platform E-mail, that provides access to any IMAP4, POP3 or SMTP Internet e-mail host via a WAP supporting device.
I have browsed across this link at www.faceintel.com. It really saddened me that such a respected and rich company such as Intel would give their employees a time in hell. Somehow, after reading the letters written by Intel employees, I see every effort on Intel's side with new eyes.
Maybe you will say it happens everywhere. I don't know, it doesn't happen in Nokia, that's for sure.
Now go on and moderate me -1 Offtopic, but tell me whether you can look at Itanium and say how cool it is after reading those letters.
Up until now I was silent on this issue, and quite frankly, admired the insightfulness of the majority of those ~1500 posts. However, now I am a bit pissed off at the statement that there are "nice" people at Microsoft. What does "nice" mean? Working for MS but disagreeing with their policy? That's bein hypocritic, or spineless, or both, not "nice". And to hear there are nice people at MS, I am really surprised, since my experience was (so far) that they are all self-righteous, presumptuous bullies.
And don't give me the shit that doing it for the money is OK: I could have had a job at MS, but I declined. And I know of other, very talented programmers (girls, too!) who just didn't feel like working in such an immoral company. Yep, sometimes you do things because of principles...
To Rob and the others: put up a good fight boys, don't let us down, for God's sake! THis realy IS stuff that matters!
Slashdot Mirror
You are very correct about the electrolytic capacitors and the battery. Also, the thermal stress the motherboard and the CPU itself (ceramics) would have to sustain would destroy them.
However, I'd like to correct you about the ice causing short circuit. Actually, pure water (the one that you get when condensig water vapor) is a very good insulator. And ice is even better. Ice insulates even if the water contained impurities.
True. These fluoro-carbons should be actually banned from production. Wonder how come 3M produces is.
And regarding the self.solving problem: it has an even farther reach, since by the time NZ is under the ocean, New York city will be, too. Quite a said perspective, if you ask me. But very likely, with the current CO2 production, where USA is the conutry with most CO2 emission pro capita. Now THAT is a self-solving system.
Sorry, this is just black humor on my part, I am quite bitter about how the Earth is going down the drain and noone seems to give a sh*t about it.
Only if it's C sharp Major....
Fight fire with fire, I say. If people spout FUD and what is essentially meaningless words ("rock solid" this, "UNIX like" that) why should I retract from
spreading FUD about *BSD and Slackware?
You know, I think this is really the scum of the world. Fight evil with evil? Risking to be offtopic, but I think Jesus' words contain a big lesson for you (and anyone else, for that matter).
Really, I LOVE Slackware! Everything is so clear, you exaclty know what each script is doing, and you really don't feel the need for any automated configuration utility (which sometimes just messes up everything). It's not SysV, but I don't care. As long as I can do absolutely EVERYTHING Linux is good at, I am happy. If you want a desktop Linux, go with Caldera 2.4 eDesktop or Corel Linux. But if you need a fileserver, webserver, router, FTP, DHCP, DNS etc etc look no further but Slackware.
My history with Slackware dates about 5 years back. I installed it without any problem (even though I have never worked with Linux before) and I have found the install rather simple. Then I installed it on several other computers, and it everytime went fine. And then, they gave me this "best Linux distro of all" RedHat 4.1 and one guy even told me it had a "graphical install". Well, it was disappointing as hell, it wasn't graphical, as you all know, and it wasn't any easier than Slackware, at least not for me.
I dunno, Slackware just clicks with my brain the right way. Way to go, Patrick!!!!
(as for those that criticize Slackware 7.1 because it won't have kernel 2.4.0, let me say that I don't give a friggin dime about it. I prefere a stable 2.2 kernel. I don't think my MASQ box at home would urgently need USB support, huh?)
We got an E450 in our lab a month ago, and I must say it's a pretty powerful machine. It has 2 US II at 400 MHz, and 1 GB RAM. I calculated that we got it cheaper than the price of an average quad Xeon 550 MHz system, with similar configuration!
Now, I don't intend to confute those of you who say that Intl-based Linux systems are so cheap in comparison with the E 450; all I am saying is that Intel doesn't necessarily mean "cheap".
Disclaimer: we might have gotten the E 450 at a lower price, since my company in general is buying Sun servers like hot cookies: we recently had to check whether the 3rd floor will resist the weight of all the E 6000 we stacked up there!
I don't agree. I believe the DOJ vs MS case made wonders for Linux being adopted by IBM, Compaq, Dell. Expecially Dell.
..because that's where UnixWare excells. It's scalable across CPUs. Well, I think it's going to be interesting.
Retro seems to be exactly what I'm looking for, hoping that the learning curve is not too steep. (I see he went from assembler to Forth pretty quickly in his rewrite... I am interested in the part where you have the core in assembler that will interpret Forth).
Thank you very much for the link!
Anyone wishing he was there? In 1996 trying out one of his/her first algorythms on an Eniac or similar bigmomma computer, when assembler would be considered a high-level programming language? Being a pioneer, having your name mentioned more like an ubiquitous piece of standard code or part of a CPU ("the ALU is usually connected to the Haggar through a FIFO...") :o)
OTOH (OT): I am entertaining the idea of making a little FORTH compiler that would be also some sort of OS. Anyone with some good references/resources that coud help (ok, I know, read the Linux kernel source...)
Maybe it's Jobs' fault, too. The Mac platform could have been much more widespread if jobs didn't decide to cut the clones. Obviously, Jobs didn't believe Apple could be the PPC Microsoft (and for a good reason: he was scared shitless of BeOS) so he wanted Apple to have much better control over their profits. So, the clones died and Apple has a much better profit margin, but the Mac marketshare is about 5% (worldwide, in US is about 10%) of the personal computer market. Obviously, Macs are considered expensive. For the same reason, there is not much hope for extending the market share, rather to leverage the very loyal customer base.
Well, Sun wants more, and wants something different: I bet Linux will be much better supported, sicne it's rapidly increasing marketshare. Windows is much better supported for obvious reasons. Solaris is much better supported for (differeent) obvious reasons.
There is a Java 2 platform being developed by Sun, for BeOS. That means Sun expects BeOS to increase it's marketshare, too. Maybe not in the PCs but in the IAs. Who knows? But the point is, Sun looks at an OS that will be widespread in the long run, and Linux (Servers and desktops) and BeOS (desktops and IAs) have a good shot at it.
IMHO
Click here
Good for cnet's standards, of course. I guess I'll "bookmark" the writers, Ben Heskett and Mike Yamamoto.
First of all, there's a 2 year of appeals and escalating to the supreme court. Second, at the time the final decision will be made, the Bushor the Gore administration will be in power, and BOTH of these presidential candidates have expressed their sympaties for MS (expecially Bush), so it may even happen that the new DOJ people will drop the case.
Besides, just to show how irrilevant the decision is, the stock market on Nasdaq after hours is howing MSFT up 3/4 to 71 1/4 as I am typing this.
And of course, as someone already noted, it's not the DOJ who decides, but the judge.
He states that the excitement, the art, of systems research is gone
That sounds.. horrible to my ears! I really enjoy digital electronics/CPU/system software development. That's what I studied at the Uni, and I dream of working in that field. Please do't tell me it's too late!
No wonder the TowerJ resulted fastest: it is a static compiler!
According to this image Mr. William Gates III is not anymore with us. Let us all show our piety and meditate on the big questions of life: "Where do you want to go today?"
Chi na bans Taiwan's Madonna
Beijing has banned one of Taiwan's top pop
stars after she sang the island's national
anthem at last Saturday's inauguration of
President Chen Shui-bian.
A-Mei, who is wildly popular on the mainland,
has been permanently blacklisted in China,
officials said.
US soft drinks giant
Coca-Cola has been
forced to drop a
multi-million dollar
advertising campaign in
China featuring A-Mei.
Judging from the Wireless Session Protocol Specfication at http://www.wapforum.org/what/technical.h tm it looks like most of the session handling stuff is
geared to handling the connection between the phone and proxy.
Well, of course! That is because the air interface (or radio-transmissio part) is located in that segment, and which is the source of interruptions, timeouts, lost packets and delays. The air interface is much less reliable that the Internet in general (we ae talking celular network here, not (yet) 3G), so all those complicated handshakes, receipt and delivery confirmations explained in the WSP (wireless session protocol) specs make tremendous sense. The WAP protocol stack is a little bit like X.25, but at even lower speed.
However, WAP is also scalable, it's designed to support future air transmission techniques, coming with G3, like GPRS, for example, or some of those non-cellular radio networks you already have in some US cities (Ricochet, for example).
What is so difficult about it? I actually have signed a NDA so I am not going to tell details here, but our solutions all use Netscape Enterprise Server, but I have also used Apache on Linux to serve WAP. Actually WML and WMLS. The logic behind generating WML and WMLS is the same old **** that today generates dynamic HTML.
Really no big deal, just the syntax is different, and the mind has to be set to think little (cell phone display and keypad).
Thanks for clueing me in with the answer to the second thought. /. because all MS is claiming is copyright infringement. I see that others think alike. But I still have my doubts, not because of what MS claims in the case, but because of how /. designed their response letter, and thus their defense. It's clear that /. wants to involve a more broad scope into the picture, namely the legitimity AND usefulness of MS' copiright. /. sent this message (IMHO) "Kerberos is perceived and accepted as an open and universally useful protocol, and your stance may piss off many in the industry. Do you really want to do this?". /.'s defense, I guess Neuman's proposed rewrite will be beneficial to /. because it will re-enforce their position in the public eye.
But as for [..] the first question, it has no effect at all against the recent legal action MS pulled against
In light of this, broader scope of
IMHO & IANAL (which means, I accept constructive criticism of my ideas)
Of course, the first question that comes to mind is: how is this going to influence the recent legal actions Microsoft pulled against /.
The second is, why is the IETF not in control of Kerberos completely, how could it happen that Microsoft made proprietary extension to the protocol?
Let the simple and readable language not fool you - this reply to Microsoft is probably one of the best planned and deadly arrows at MS' heart. Think about it for a moment: for MS to continue contrasting Slashdot on the issue will mean, from now on, to air their dirty laundry as to Kerberos and embrace-and-extend, one of the tactics they are in court for with the DOJ. :o)
With this letter, Slashdot has signaled to Microsoft that they are going to use a very painful (for MS) defense. Slashdot may loose, but the loss for MS will be horrible. A little bit like those amphibious animals that have some sort of poison in their tissues: they have very livel colours that warn any predator not to venture into trying to eat them. The prey would die, but the attacking predator would die, too, or at least it would badly regret. Ummmm.... ok, biology is not my strong point, but you get my point
Or should I just wait for more WAP products and services to come out?? I r
There is at least one product that I know of, called MAX, from Nokia (check it out here
A little snippet from the Nokia page:
In addition to the portal, Nokia Artus MAX
Platform offers an optional service, MAX
Platform E-mail, that provides access to any
IMAP4, POP3 or SMTP Internet e-mail host via
a WAP supporting device.
I think this answers your question.. maybe?
I have browsed across this link at www.faceintel.com. It really saddened me that such a respected and rich company such as Intel would give their employees a time in hell. Somehow, after reading the letters written by Intel employees, I see every effort on Intel's side with new eyes.
Maybe you will say it happens everywhere. I don't know, it doesn't happen in Nokia, that's for sure.
Now go on and moderate me -1 Offtopic, but tell me whether you can look at Itanium and say how cool it is after reading those letters.
Up until now I was silent on this issue, and quite frankly, admired the insightfulness of the majority of those ~1500 posts.
However, now I am a bit pissed off at the statement that there are "nice" people at Microsoft. What does "nice" mean? Working for MS but disagreeing with their policy? That's bein hypocritic, or spineless, or both, not "nice".
And to hear there are nice people at MS, I am really surprised, since my experience was (so far) that they are all self-righteous, presumptuous bullies.
And don't give me the shit that doing it for the money is OK: I could have had a job at MS, but I declined. And I know of other, very talented programmers (girls, too!) who just didn't feel like working in such an immoral company. Yep, sometimes you do things because of principles...
To Rob and the others: put up a good fight boys, don't let us down, for God's sake! THis realy IS stuff that matters!