You can use many other languages too. I even have a web server running on my phone using Nokia's http://mymobilesite.net/...ok, so it's beta and can disappear at any time, but it has an integrated tunnelling feature so it even works from behind firewalls/etc. Very useful.
Symbian phones are cheap and plentiful. Personally, I've been enjoying the Nokia N900, but have had to give it back. I hope to get a new one soon:D
Do Apple own the iPhone trademark? I thought it was a Cisco trademark since they made the first iphones....or was is spelled different(ly) or something?
I'm no Apple fan, but come on...for a start, they woke the whole US market up to the value of smart phones; and data plans too...making flat rate plans much more profitable which is game changing in itself; then they made the app store concept popular, even though many had already existed for years (eg Handango). Heck, they even made touch screens popular - I don't much care for capacitative ones they use, but I choose a different phone (I use the awesome Nokia N900 which has a very nice resistive screen).
In my book, Apple changed a lot when they entered the market, and generally for the better.
I think it's good Apple is evil, since that makes an opening for other manufacturers.
You forget....Apple think Different(tm)(sic)...they hate being compatible with pretty much anything and they've redefined caps to be what everyone else calls lower case.
the ipod shuffle didn't have the same connector...don't know about today's line up but even though they had the same connector available when they designed my shuffle, they chose not to... Probably for size reasons, but still, it does not let them choose it for all ipods because it is too big for some of them.
You're wrong. The initial '1' is not the country code, else you would be able to dial '800' from within the US.
In fact, you have to drop the initial '1' from US numbers when dialing from outside the US. The fact that you then have to add it again is just coincidental - it's a coincidence that the country code is the same as the first one.
Sorry, but I'm not interested in talking about this any more.
My desk phone number is '254'....not much use from outside my company.
Your 1800 number isn't much use from outside your country, unless you specify the country.
That's what I mean by 'inaccurate'.
And I am pretty sure that the US 1800 numbers don't work from China. I would be surprised if they work from anywhere - though I've not tried them from anywhere apart from China. Having said that, perhaps it works from Finland, though I think that time I was using VoiP, so I put it down to that - I didn't get any notification of it costing me anything (I assume it was free).
I strongly suspect that whether 'it works' or not depends on some bi-lateral agreement between the networks involved; irrespective of if it is free.
Excuse your inaccuracy by accusing someone of being obtuse? Hrm.
Such as you suggest didn't work when I last tried it - admintedly a while ago. It was a Bank Of America number I was trying and they recommended I try to call through an AT&T number/operator, but when I tried that, it also wouldn't work.
Also, Skype is good for those stupid American companies that think they are being nice by providing 1800 numbers and don't realise that it's impossible/difficult/awkward to dial them from anywhere outside the US (or something like that). You can dial them using Skype...quality is mamahuhu, but it does work.
LOL. Well, that could well be true irrespective of vehicle.
Anyway, I have also traveled on Boing 777 - though I'm not sure if that particular vehicle is has a noteworthy top speed compared to other airliners. Does it?
Try factoring in the number of passengers or top acceleration - I'd expect the bike to win then, or at least it to be very close.
I was attempting ot highlight that 140mph is not a high speed by saying that I've travelled that speed on my own personal transportation vehicle, *and* I have documentation to prove it.
> 140mph...most production sports cars can do that
I've been done for speeding on my motorcycle at that speed. OK, that's a lie...it was 139 (I think the police were being generous, or I'd already slowed somewhat by the time they clocked me).
> I haven't really put in the time to determine whether I could bend Mac OS into an environment in which I could feel at home...
I did try this - my problem was specifically with Aqua rather than Mac OS X itself. It seemed Apple insists *I* change to do it their way.
I also loved my Powerbook h/w and was running PPC Ubuntu on it for quite a while, but I don't think Ubuntu controller the fans properly and it eventually died of heat exhaustion.
I've taken a look at the later Apple h/w with a view to doing the Microsoft thing of no accepting the licence for OS X and getting my money back but I just don't like the look of the newer stuff.... the TiBooks just were perfect, IMO.
I am very tempted by the new Nokia netbook...its design, to me, seems to 'nod' back to the old TiBook (even though, I'm told, it's Aluminium).
I get my firmware from Nokia and it has nothing to do with whatever service provider I happen to be using...I don't think we're considering the situation where Nokia decide to disable tethering, are we?
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mod parent up....even Symbian is better.
You can use many other languages too. I even have a web server running on my phone using Nokia's http://mymobilesite.net/...ok, so it's beta and can disappear at any time, but it has an integrated tunnelling feature so it even works from behind firewalls/etc. Very useful.
Symbian phones are cheap and plentiful. Personally, I've been enjoying the Nokia N900, but have had to give it back. I hope to get a new one soon :D
I've been loving it....and missing it since I had to give mine back.
In the meantime, I'm learning how to develop for it. Fortunately, many things are similar to the n810 (well, sdk-wise anyway).
You missed (Available soon):
Maemo (Nokia N900): free...yes, even root...no hacking required. Free out of the box.
http://maemo.nokia.com/
Do Apple own the iPhone trademark? I thought it was a Cisco trademark since they made the first iphones. ...or was is spelled different(ly) or something?
> Apple changed nothing?
I'm no Apple fan, but come on...for a start, they woke the whole US market up to the value of smart phones; and data plans too...making flat rate plans much more profitable which is game changing in itself; then they made the app store concept popular, even though many had already existed for years (eg Handango). Heck, they even made touch screens popular - I don't much care for capacitative ones they use, but I choose a different phone (I use the awesome Nokia N900 which has a very nice resistive screen).
In my book, Apple changed a lot when they entered the market, and generally for the better.
I think it's good Apple is evil, since that makes an opening for other manufacturers.
...or, soon, Maemo (Nokia N900) or even Symbian these days is open source, depending on your definition...
Maemo should allow you to tinker as much as you like :
http://maemo.nokia.com/
Soon, you can choose the Nokia N900; maybe there'll be a Symbian phone too (that's OSS too, right?).
You forget....Apple think Different(tm)(sic)...they hate being compatible with pretty much anything and they've redefined caps to be what everyone else calls lower case.
Nokia N900 has tethering built-in, as does every other Nokia phone I've used (not sure about the 8800).
The N900 is quite open, I think.
the ipod shuffle didn't have the same connector...don't know about today's line up but even though they had the same connector available when they designed my shuffle, they chose not to ... Probably for size reasons, but still, it does not let them choose it for all ipods because it is too big for some of them.
You're wrong. The initial '1' is not the country code, else you would be able to dial '800' from within the US.
In fact, you have to drop the initial '1' from US numbers when dialing from outside the US. The fact that you then have to add it again is just coincidental - it's a coincidence that the country code is the same as the first one.
Sorry, but I'm not interested in talking about this any more.
It's not a complete telephone number.
My desk phone number is '254'....not much use from outside my company.
Your 1800 number isn't much use from outside your country, unless you specify the country.
That's what I mean by 'inaccurate'.
And I am pretty sure that the US 1800 numbers don't work from China. I would be surprised if they work from anywhere - though I've not tried them from anywhere apart from China. Having said that, perhaps it works from Finland, though I think that time I was using VoiP, so I put it down to that - I didn't get any notification of it costing me anything (I assume it was free).
I strongly suspect that whether 'it works' or not depends on some bi-lateral agreement between the networks involved; irrespective of if it is free.
> That's the number.
No, it's not.
> Why not try it now?
I'm not in China at the moment. I managed to do my business - closing the account due to them insisting on me having to call them - using Skype.
Excuse your inaccuracy by accusing someone of being obtuse? Hrm.
Such as you suggest didn't work when I last tried it - admintedly a while ago. It was a Bank Of America number I was trying and they recommended I try to call through an AT&T number/operator, but when I tried that, it also wouldn't work.
China. What makes you think other countries don't use '1800' for other things?
Max.
On S60 too.
Also, Skype is good for those stupid American companies that think they are being nice by providing 1800 numbers and don't realise that it's impossible/difficult/awkward to dial them from anywhere outside the US (or something like that). You can dial them using Skype...quality is mamahuhu, but it does work.
Wouldn't this be terribly slippery? It's bad enough for motorbikes when they cover the road in paint, even without rain, but glass? Seriously?
but those thing *are* banks....a sperm bank *is* a bank...a member of the Bank family *is* a Bank...
not sure about the beer...perhaps that one isn't a bank.
LOL. Well, that could well be true irrespective of vehicle.
Anyway, I have also traveled on Boing 777 - though I'm not sure if that particular vehicle is has a noteworthy top speed compared to other airliners. Does it?
Try factoring in the number of passengers or top acceleration - I'd expect the bike to win then, or at least it to be very close.
I was attempting ot highlight that 140mph is not a high speed by saying that I've travelled that speed on my own personal transportation vehicle, *and* I have documentation to prove it.
What's *your* point?
> 140mph...most production sports cars can do that
I've been done for speeding on my motorcycle at that speed. OK, that's a lie...it was 139 (I think the police were being generous, or I'd already slowed somewhat by the time they clocked me).
So, yeah, 140 isn't anything much as speeds go.
Indeed. Suspension is a big factor in keeping the wheels on the ground, and since this is not jet or wind powered, I think that's quite important.
> Coal-fired ships generated steam to drive a reciprocating piston engine
References?
Here's one to the contrary :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turbinia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steam_turbine#Marine_propulsion
Also from that latter article:
"Steam turbine locomotives were also tested, but with limited success."
which, I think, is what you're talking about.
> I haven't really put in the time to determine whether I could bend Mac OS into an environment in which I could feel at home...
I did try this - my problem was specifically with Aqua rather than Mac OS X itself. It seemed Apple insists *I* change to do it their way.
I also loved my Powerbook h/w and was running PPC Ubuntu on it for quite a while, but I don't think Ubuntu controller the fans properly and it eventually died of heat exhaustion.
I've taken a look at the later Apple h/w with a view to doing the Microsoft thing of no accepting the licence for OS X and getting my money back but I just don't like the look of the newer stuff .... the TiBooks just were perfect, IMO.
I am very tempted by the new Nokia netbook...its design, to me, seems to 'nod' back to the old TiBook (even though, I'm told, it's Aluminium).
I get my firmware from Nokia and it has nothing to do with whatever service provider I happen to be using...I don't think we're considering the situation where Nokia decide to disable tethering, are we?