Are you thus saying that upgrading the cpu *does* affect this alledged limit?
I don't have the h/w to try...really my point is about the logic of saying one thing is a limit and that improving the thing doesn't improve the situation.
If changing the cpu doesn't affect the 'limit' then it isn't a 'limit'. It can't have only a fixed negative impact, surely? In what way does it limit it? How can there be a limit that can't be changed by upgrading the h/w that is causing the limit?
I'm having trouble understanding..it doesn't seem to make sense.
Essentially, a fixed specialised piece of h/w can be replaced by a general purpose piece of h/w with the algorithm done in s/w. If the latter is fast enough, it can have higher performance than the former.
Of course, the cpu may be only one part of the whole system, but by upgrading (cpu/bus/whatever) you can at least remove that specific part as a factor.
> The fact that firewire is done in hardware gives it virtually no overhead, and it's specialized for what it does. I don't think just upgrading your CPU would increase USB transfer speeds, but feel free to do some tests to back that up.
Well, either the CPU limits the USB speed, or it doesn't. It can't be both. If it does limit it, then upgrading the CPU will help - heck, you can even add another core these days, just for USB, if you feel so inclined, in which case there would be little to no overhead.
If it doesn't limit it, then what was the point you were making?
What has this to do with statistics, apart from 'lies, damned lies, and statistics'.
I did pass statistics, btw, though it was some time ago. I don't recall learning that 'as well as' being the same as '198 equals 199' (iirc). If it were as good as, it would be 199.
* I can't easily look back at the original numbers, so they might not have been as above.
>In a randomized study of 31,000 women, researchers found that a single expert aided by a computer does as well as two pairs of eyes.
"As well as"?
> CAD spotted nearly
or "nearly as well as"?
> the same number of cancers, 198 out of 227, compared to 199 for the two readers.
Ah, 198 vs 199 - it seems their first statement is not accurate. I wonder why people keep doing this - they use numbers accurately enough, but use language inaccurately.
The cost of the storage might be reasonable, but what about the performance aspect? 30TB per night sounds like a lot to store in one night...being generous and calling a night 12 hours - I'm probably wrong, but I make that 43200 seconds which is 694 MB/s. Without looking up any performance stats for hard drives, that sounds fairly easily attainable (too).
I find fastmail web interface to be better than google's in a number (>0) of ways. It is much faster for 'delete-next' for example.
Gmail has threading, so that's nice, and integrated https-based chat (so works through proxies).
It all depends on what you value. Fastmail also has a free version that you can try. I find myself still paying fastmail, even though gmail is free. Worth a look at least.
Re MMS, unfortunately, not all phones have email, while they do all have MMS - well, I've not had a phone in the last several years that didn't do MMS. My wife is always sending me pictures she's take with her phone camera, and I would feel a bit of a prick if my fancy new phone couldn't even do that.
I could probably live without the other features I mentioned, like you said, but they *are* nice to have and nice and convenient. They are still features that would influence me in my purchase decision and a quite possibly a reason I wouldn't consider an Apple iPhone, as well as the MMS thing. If I did fall to temptation and buy one, I'm sure it'd just be relegated to 'toy' status and sit on the shelf, like a lot of the things I buy - well, I *used* to buy before I got married;)
I would tend to agree with your general comments. However, I can counter your small sample of iPhone usage with the fact that I've never seen one - well, I might have seen one, but I can't tell between it and the iPod. I've certainly never seen the screen of one. I don't know if anyone I know owns one, but I do know there's a few around.
On the other hand, (almost) everyone I know owns an S60 phone. I know someone who owns an SE phone - it's supposed to have an excellent camera.
I would say that my sample is bigger than yours, though probably just as statically insignificant. No, I prefer to go by published sales figures...a much bigger sample:)
the developer cut can be 100% if you do it yourself.
Phones that are more limited capabilites???? Sure, there are some, but the majority of symbian phones are far more capable. The iphone is missing even baisc features...mms comes immeditately to mind...then there's bluetooth...oh, cut and paste. I'm sure others could go on.
Perhaps you have some other definition of 'limited', or 'capabilities'.
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Are you thus saying that upgrading the cpu *does* affect this alledged limit?
I don't have the h/w to try...really my point is about the logic of saying one thing is a limit and that improving the thing doesn't improve the situation.
Also, I don't see how that article backs you up - it compares f/w with usb, but my point concerns usb with slow cpu compared to usb with fast cpu.
If changing the cpu doesn't affect the 'limit' then it isn't a 'limit'. It can't have only a fixed negative impact, surely? In what way does it limit it? How can there be a limit that can't be changed by upgrading the h/w that is causing the limit?
I'm having trouble understanding..it doesn't seem to make sense.
Essentially, a fixed specialised piece of h/w can be replaced by a general purpose piece of h/w with the algorithm done in s/w. If the latter is fast enough, it can have higher performance than the former.
Of course, the cpu may be only one part of the whole system, but by upgrading (cpu/bus/whatever) you can at least remove that specific part as a factor.
> The fact that firewire is done in hardware gives it virtually no overhead, and it's specialized for what it does. I don't think just upgrading your CPU would increase USB transfer speeds, but feel free to do some tests to back that up.
Well, either the CPU limits the USB speed, or it doesn't. It can't be both. If it does limit it, then upgrading the CPU will help - heck, you can even add another core these days, just for USB, if you feel so inclined, in which case there would be little to no overhead.
If it doesn't limit it, then what was the point you were making?
Not only, unless you're specifically talking about laptops.
> USB is software, thus limited by CPU and RAM
Both of these limits are easily increased by the user, and notably a CPU upgrade is to the advantage of Intel (if it's an Intel arch).
I don't think you can upgrade the firewire h/w so easily...but perhaps I'm wrong.
> your own companies crappy operating system
You really think you'd get away with that? Did you really think we wouldn't notice? Is it a deliberate troll?
It's "company's", not "companies".
Apologies to Not The Nine O'Clock News...ref: "Not the Parrot Sketch" :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UBOb7ar3qQ
(Also, I personally don't consider Symbian to be "crappy". The SDK is a pain to work with, but the OS is pretty good, IMO).
You're just saying that it 'could be' 'as good as'.
Just because it could be, doesn't make it so, and the numbers don't make it so either, statitically or otherwise.
Perhaps *you* should go back to school and learn some English.
What has this to do with statistics, apart from 'lies, damned lies, and statistics'.
I did pass statistics, btw, though it was some time ago. I don't recall learning that 'as well as' being the same as '198 equals 199' (iirc). If it were as good as, it would be 199.
* I can't easily look back at the original numbers, so they might not have been as above.
>In a randomized study of 31,000 women, researchers found that a single expert aided by a computer does as well as two pairs of eyes.
"As well as"?
> CAD spotted nearly
or "nearly as well as"?
> the same number of cancers, 198 out of 227, compared to 199 for the two readers.
Ah, 198 vs 199 - it seems their first statement is not accurate. I wonder why people keep doing this - they use numbers accurately enough, but use language inaccurately.
Another more well informed post. Thank you!
Why are such posts not moderated more highly?
Wow. Someone who knows something. What are you doing here?
How on earth the parent post got modded '-1 Troll' I'll never understand. It's blatantly neutral and well-balanced.
What is /. coming to? It seems to get worse and worse.
IINM, that would be Japanese.
I'm curious...what was the point in your post?
You think Apple's iPhone is a "PDA phone"? I would class is as more like an 'music player with some phone and pda functions added'.
The cost of the storage might be reasonable, but what about the performance aspect? 30TB per night sounds like a lot to store in one night...being generous and calling a night 12 hours - I'm probably wrong, but I make that 43200 seconds which is 694 MB/s. Without looking up any performance stats for hard drives, that sounds fairly easily attainable (too).
...or any Nokia S60 3rd edition phone? Ref : http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/news/item/7998_Microsoft_Exchange_Now_Support.php
I find fastmail web interface to be better than google's in a number (>0) of ways. It is much faster for 'delete-next' for example.
Gmail has threading, so that's nice, and integrated https-based chat (so works through proxies).
It all depends on what you value. Fastmail also has a free version that you can try. I find myself still paying fastmail, even though gmail is free. Worth a look at least.
Hrm, interesting. I wonder who exactly is to blame for America then?
Is it the British again?
Re MMS, unfortunately, not all phones have email, while they do all have MMS - well, I've not had a phone in the last several years that didn't do MMS. My wife is always sending me pictures she's take with her phone camera, and I would feel a bit of a prick if my fancy new phone couldn't even do that.
I could probably live without the other features I mentioned, like you said, but they *are* nice to have and nice and convenient. They are still features that would influence me in my purchase decision and a quite possibly a reason I wouldn't consider an Apple iPhone, as well as the MMS thing. If I did fall to temptation and buy one, I'm sure it'd just be relegated to 'toy' status and sit on the shelf, like a lot of the things I buy - well, I *used* to buy before I got married ;)
I would tend to agree with your general comments. However, I can counter your small sample of iPhone usage with the fact that I've never seen one - well, I might have seen one, but I can't tell between it and the iPod. I've certainly never seen the screen of one. I don't know if anyone I know owns one, but I do know there's a few around.
On the other hand, (almost) everyone I know owns an S60 phone. I know someone who owns an SE phone - it's supposed to have an excellent camera.
I would say that my sample is bigger than yours, though probably just as statically insignificant. No, I prefer to go by published sales figures...a much bigger sample :)
the developer cut can be 100% if you do it yourself.
Phones that are more limited capabilites???? Sure, there are some, but the majority of symbian phones are far more capable. The iphone is missing even baisc features...mms comes immeditately to mind...then there's bluetooth...oh, cut and paste. I'm sure others could go on.
Perhaps you have some other definition of 'limited', or 'capabilities'.
OK, redo the table. Include the paralympics too, and device the number of medals by population.
That would be interesting...I'll bet that the USA doesn't come anywhere near top.
It sounds a lot like terrorism to me.