See, they want electronic voting machines because people's gnat like attention spans can't wait while they count all these paper ballots!;-)
Seriously, speed and saving money seems to be driving it....
So let's have it both ways:
People can vote on a machine that will have a printout which is deposited into the OFFICIAL ballot box,... whilst the electronic tabulation gives us a quick UNOFFICIAL count for the late news.
>You can choose to NEVER save information in Gmail, irregardless of the client you use. and you can be sure i will! but concerns for security persist. The *potential* for Google to ab/use info gleaned from chat sessions is there.
I just tried it from the Gmail web interface. It vamped all the addresses from my gmail jabber server. (I guess they were there to start with.)
I suspect the root of this is just another way to get more info about us. I tried the logging session to gmail. Kid of neat, but then again... just another way to get more info about us.
"Once a chat is saved, however, it becomes just like a Gmail message."
Looks like then it's fair game for their scanning to serve ads.
So, does Google log and snoop in *all* google talk sessions - evne those not saved in gmail? If so best stick with other jabber servers -- maybe even off shore to US?!... looks not, but.. http://www.google.com/talk/privacy.html
It logged chat between psi and kopete, contra:
"You can choose whether to store text chats in your Gmail account.... Also, the feature is available only if both you and the other person are using the Google Talk client, Google Talk in Gmail, or a third-party client that enables this feature."
This is about control, not cost. Yahoo forums are controlled by Yahoo and generate Yahoo ad revenue. Yahoo posts won't be in Google groups. This is about Yahoo, the other comments are excuses.
You've certainly got that right. I am alarmed at ISPs that seek to cut out web space, now usenet,... What next? Another poster mentioned ISPs might even resort to using NAT instead of giving us a real IP #.
Usenet, accessed by a good mail reader (I like knode) is a whole lot faster than all the web forums. In the groups that deal with technical or hobby matters there is a lot of signal to noise, and one can get and give answers. It's the code of the NET to participate in these ways -- obviously something our would-be corporate overlords could care less about.
As I see it, after trying VoIP forl a while, the choke point is where the VoIP providers have to gain access to the PSTN. That is where the RBOC oligopoly can extract its price.
Often when placing a VoIp call, I experience a delay before it starts to ring. That is most likely the result of waiting for a connection to the PSTN. SBC, Verizon, Qwest (and the fading numbers of lesser players) can just charge handsomely for those connection points. Unless regulators control them in this, they'll try to do what they have largely succeeded in doing to the alternative providers for local service. The RBOC's have jacked up the fees they charge CLEC's, and the CLEC's are dropping like flies. The only competition for local service is cable, and the plans they sell are not cheap. That's why I am trying VoIP.
OO writer starts in less than 10 sec's on my K7 1.4GHz with 1G, and that's with no quickstart. (Disabling java only cuts that marginally.) I can live with that.
Remember, that the entire windows OS is the "quickstarter" for MS Office. All the dlls and IE stuff are already loaded.
I just tried with Firefox and got the nasty IE message. Then I set the browser ID to IE6/Win5.1 and tried with konqueror. After a few glitches probably attributable to a busy server, it worked!
This tells me that it probably should work with Firefox, but they have set it to give the error when it gets that browser string!
I know some of these guys like M$, but this is ridiculous!
Many have said how important it is that our government use open standards, lest anyone be compelled to enrich a particular corporation in order to participate in review of governmental actions. This is most vertainly true!
On the issue of formats, it is proven that Microsoft Word formats can be incompatible with earlier/later ones, and there are problems a version of MS Office. Thus it make quite good sense to only have to endure this stress and change just once to open format!
I imagine after the P3 id fiasco, they'll make sure not to do anything as stupid as putting in DRM unannounced. Instead, they'll probably try to make it a "selling point." We just need to let them know it WON'T sell!
Good education will teach skills and not teach to a particular application. For what 90% of people use something like Word, WordPerfect, or OOo Writer for is really basic, and how to do it really doesn't change much between programs.
I've always thought Abiword is ideal for the younger set. My 9 year old still prefers it to OO sometimes.
Todd Oppenheimer wrote a book a couple years ago, The Flickering Mind, that may contain a little more on the subject. He was not so polemical as to say "computers don't belong in schools," but presented a more balanced critique.
Of course, this is still subject to security problems -- e.g. what if an election judge discards some of the paper receipts?
If they have a serial number based on order of voting, the missing numbers would be a clue.
Your point is thus even more valid:
-- but they are problems shared by traditional paper balloting. The thing is, it's a lot harder to get a corrupt election judge in every precinct than it is to get one corrupt programmer in every voting machine company, so widespread rigging is more difficult and easier to discover.
Long ago my favorite word processor was WordPerfect. (I still have a copy of WP8 linux running on my systems, though I've gone to OO.) Then Novell bought WP and made one of the worst versions ever, evntually dumping it off to Corel. Coincidentally the market share took a plunge (also due to M$ predatory practices!).
This gives me pause as Novell now owns one of my favorite distros.
On the good side, with a static IP address you can now host an (amateur) radio/video site from home, thats important to me and my band.Sorry, most of the cable/ DSL providers do not allow hosting in their contracts -- unless you pay a premium.
Definitely! Archive it, and then delete it -- after a specified period..... That stuff should probably be backed up somewhere anyway, in case they need to rebuild a crashed system.
That way we'll be able to recover the one few pieces we eventually need to keep some public servant serving the public,
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Steganography? Then if you see the hidden stuff, you know it's a copy.
Thief probably thought he had a VHS tape! ... but it wouldn't play, so it went into the trash.
See, they want electronic voting machines because people's gnat like attention spans can't wait while they count all these paper ballots! ;-)
Seriously, speed and saving money seems to be driving it. ...
So let's have it both ways:
People can vote on a machine that will have a printout which is deposited into the OFFICIAL ballot box, ... whilst the electronic tabulation gives us a quick UNOFFICIAL count for the late news.
Just print hard copy on acid-free paper and lock it away?
>You can choose to NEVER save information in Gmail, irregardless of the client you use.
and you can be sure i will!
but concerns for security persist. The *potential* for Google to ab/use info gleaned from chat sessions is there.
I wonder if it might be a good idea for us US people to start using google.co.uk ??
As I see it, after trying VoIP forl a while, the choke point is where the VoIP providers have to gain access to the PSTN. That is where the RBOC oligopoly can extract its price.
Often when placing a VoIp call, I experience a delay before it starts to ring. That is most likely the result of waiting for a connection to the PSTN. SBC, Verizon, Qwest (and the fading numbers of lesser players) can just charge handsomely for those connection points. Unless regulators control them in this, they'll try to do what they have largely succeeded in doing to the alternative providers for local service. The RBOC's have jacked up the fees they charge CLEC's, and the CLEC's are dropping like flies. The only competition for local service is cable, and the plans they sell are not cheap. That's why I am trying VoIP.
OO writer starts in less than 10 sec's on my K7 1.4GHz with 1G, and that's with no quickstart. (Disabling java only cuts that marginally.) I can live with that.
Remember, that the entire windows OS is the "quickstarter" for MS Office. All the dlls and IE stuff are already loaded.
I just tried with Firefox and got the nasty IE message. Then I set the browser ID to IE6/Win5.1 and tried with konqueror. After a few glitches probably attributable to a busy server, it worked!
This tells me that it probably should work with Firefox, but they have set it to give the error when it gets that browser string!
I know some of these guys like M$, but this is ridiculous!
Many have said how important it is that our government use open standards, lest anyone be compelled to enrich a particular corporation in order to participate in review of governmental actions. This is most vertainly true!
On the issue of formats, it is proven that Microsoft Word formats can be incompatible with earlier/later ones, and there are problems a version of MS Office. Thus it make quite good sense to only have to endure this stress and change just once to open format!
I imagine after the P3 id fiasco, they'll make sure not to do anything as stupid as putting in DRM unannounced. Instead, they'll probably try to make it a "selling point." We just need to let them know it WON'T sell!
So now we can all go out and buy more new hardware - to read and write TRIPLE layer DVDs?
The price of DL media is still out of line.
Todd Oppenheimer wrote a book a couple years ago, The Flickering Mind, that may contain a little more on the subject. He was not so polemical as to say "computers don't belong in schools," but presented a more balanced critique.
Have you checked out the BBC web site? It's pretty progressive. They are even working on a massive archive.
Long ago my favorite word processor was WordPerfect. (I still have a copy of WP8 linux running on my systems, though I've gone to OO.) Then Novell bought WP and made one of the worst versions ever, evntually dumping it off to Corel. Coincidentally the market share took a plunge (also due to M$ predatory practices!).
This gives me pause as Novell now owns one of my favorite distros.
That's the era when Coca-cola *was* "the Real Thing!" (cocaine!)
Reverse firewall?! Only when I set it up. I don't want the cable or DSL provider deciding what can connect out of my machines!
Definitely! Archive it, and then delete it -- after a specified period. .... That stuff should probably be backed up somewhere anyway, in case they need to rebuild a crashed system.
That way we'll be able to recover the one few pieces we eventually need to keep some public servant serving the public,