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Caffeinated Beer Becomes a Reality
Cylar writes "CNN is reporting that Anheuser-Bush has developed a sweet, caffeinated beer they are dubbing B(E). Intended to compete with the trendy sweet concotions popular on the club scenes (such as Smirnoff Ice), it will contain caffeine, guarana, and ginseng." Not sure how I feel about ginseng in my brew, so I'll have to study this with a few cases.
Coffee is an acquired taste, so is beer, I guess one will have to learn to enjoy this beverage...
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Does that mean that I can sip one beer after another and not fall asleep a la Homer Simpson?
In the immortal words of Homer Simpson...
Oh, yeah. Beer busts, beer blasts, keggers, stein hoists, AA meetings, beer night. It's wonderful, Marge. I've never felt so accepted in all my life. These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined.
And now he can stay up late drinking beer without passing out -- because it's got caffeine!
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In reference to Buzz Beer (they had the concept years ago!) - "Stay up so you can get drunk all over again"
Coffee with alcohol ? Oh wait..... burp
"Sweeter flavors have definitely made an impact on 21- to 35-year-olds. ... It's a bigger part of the alcohol-drinking spectrum."
I really don't have to say anything here, right?
So we take the nasty taste of American beer, and we load it up with sugar and stuff to make us jittery. Great plan.
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Let me be first to welcome my newest caffeinated/intoxicating overlords.
If Anheuser Busch makes it, it's crap. There when it was illegal to sell stuff like this in Germany and call it beer. It's a violation of the Reinheidtsgebot, or Purity Law, which states that beer can only contain malted grain, water, yeast and hops.
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I can only imagine this will taste horrible, but in the event that it doesn't, I will probably make this a part of my diet. I like the speed up/slow down combo contained in a JagerBomb (Jagermeister/Red Bull), but doing shots is never good on my stomach. Time to RTFA.
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Marge: I'd like a coffee
Aussie Bartender: Beer it is
Marge: No, coffee
Bartender: Beer
Marge: Cof-fee
Bartender: Be-er
Marge: C-O
Bartender: B-E
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Now if they can just add nicotine to it too I can have all my vices in ONE CAN!
Easy guys, I put my pants on one leg at a time. The difference is after I put on my pants I make gold records!
Yay!
I'll stick to Irish Coffee.
Finally, a super beverage that can give you the spins and the jitters all in one serving!
Is the ultimate combination of alcohol and caffene.
at least you used to be able to count on somebody passing out...
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As an inhabitant of a country that makes great beers, I have to say I find this highly appaling.
You might wonder why I even care - after all, that beer is not exported to Europe and we can still drink our own (beerlike) beer. There's just one problem - the Football WC (you call it soccer...)
Stupid FIFA has a contract with an American beer producer. Guess which. That means we can only buy American beer in the stadion.
Someone from Europe who's pissed at piss...
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At first glance I thought I saw "guano" in there...
That will go great with my 'tequilla and red bull.' Now I can really party all night. Don't expect it to taste good if it comes from Anheuser-Bush though.
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My first real thought, however, due to the distributor was, "gross."
Immediately following that, though, I thought of a Simpsons episode, then a Futurama episode:
Homer: Uh, yeah. I need something that will keep me awake, alert, and reckless all night long.
Clerk: Well, Congress is racing back to Washington to outlaw these. [puts a bottle of pills on the counter]
Homer: [takes bottle] Sold!
[downs most of the pills on the spot]
Clerk: Hey, you can't take that many pep pills at once.
Homer: No problem, I'll balance it out with a bottle of sleeping pills. [takes another generous helping of pills]
-- "Maximum Homerdrive"
Fry: I'm never going to get used to the 31st century. [He points to his breakfast.] Caffinated bacon? Baconated grapefruit? Admiral Crunch?
-- "The Series Has Landed"
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Lol, the headline sounds like a dream has finally come true.
/., so there are probably a lot of people here who actually dreamed about caffeinated beer.
Wait, this is
Prost!
MoonShot contains the maximum amount of caffeine allowed by law: 45mg per twelve-ounce serving. Since this is a moderate level (a cup of coffee contains 70mg), we have formulated MoonShot to be light-bodied, smooth and therefore uncommonly drinkable.
I've tried MoonShot... It's not bad, but not great. Little bit of caffeine tang, like Krank2O or Water Joe, but better masked by the beer. Tastes kinda like Rolling Rock. Weak, in other words.
If you want caffeine with your alcohol, go for irish coffee
-T
One word: Reinheitsgebot
...before a mass-market Skittlebrau.
Perhaps we need an award like the X-Prize to whomever comes up with a viable, tasty beer with candy floating in it.
And i thought Vonnegut's granddad thought of putting caffeine in beer first.
The reason that Smirnoff Ice is popular is because it tastes like lemon-lime pop and it gets girls loaded.
While another citrus malt-beverage wasn't going to turn any heads in this market a ginseng/caffeine alternative probably isn't either.
Nothing like supporting the dangers of mixing an upper and a downer together. Yeah plenty of people drink Jagerbombs and coffee after drinking but it isn't marketed in the same drink.
I'll stick to beer and I have a feeling that my fiance will stick to SI.
If it's made by Anheiser Busch, it's CRAP!
He tried to kill me with a forklift!
Hmmm
Holding onto the bed so you don't fall off, just *trying* to get to sleep...
Stuck down a hole! In the middle of the night! With an owl!
As if beer doesn't make you pee enough!
B/E! Now you can piss like the mighty Mississipp!!
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Does anyone know how this would actually make you feel? I mean, think about it:
alcohol is a depressant
caffeine is a stimulant
Therefore, it would seem that combining the two would make you feel like complete and utter crap. Does anyone have any experience?
About 6 years ago, when I was in college, we bought a case of this stuff called "Phat Boy" malt liquor from a local party store. It was basically a malt liquor with guarana and ginseng. It was the nastiest stuff I had ever tasted. It was awful. Of course, the reason why we bought was because it was $2.00/40oz bottle, so I couldn't complain much. I just hope this stuff tastes better.
Years ago, a friend of mine was brewing and thought he'd invent a recipie for Coffee Porter. Rather than read what anyone else had done, he decided to just wing it and hope for the best.
He came into work one Monday, and asked what I knew about coffee. Seems he had a bottle with dinner the night before, but hadn't been to sleep yet.
Now any homebrewer can tell you that the typical formula for 5-6 gallons of beer calls for about one pot of strong coffee for a subtle but noticable flavor.
Mark, on the other hand, took a pound of french roast, ground it to the "Espresso" setting, and dumped it into secondary for two weeks. If I remember the back-of-the-envelope calculations, we figured each bottle had 500 - 700 mg of caffiene, compared to 40-70 mg in a cup of coffee.
He gave me a bottle, and we used it for shots at a party, but that's about all I could do with it.
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So which wins. The depressing effect of beer or the energizing effect of caffiene? Ild also like to say... what a wierd combination.
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I think an ACNEA-organization is necessary here (Alcohol-Caffeine Anonymous)...
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More mass market crap. I've been brewing a caffeinated stout (using real, fresh roasted and ground coffee) for ages!
So since alcohol is a depressant and caffeine is a stimulant, what is the net effect of this beverage???
Anheuser-Bush has developed a sweet, caffeinated beer.
:)
I'll admit I'm hardly a beer fanatic nor am I an expert, but is beer really supposed to be sweet? Is that not going to taste truly vile?
I enjoy a good draught of Amstel, Windhoek or even Castle from time to time (I'm South African, so these are the beers we get here, mostly brewed locally). These beers aren't sweet, and I can't imagine what a sweet beer would taste like. Fruit juice with added hops comes to mind...
Note that I have no objection to the addition of caffeine, the more stimulants there are in my glass at once the better
Daar is nie 'n lepel nie
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Thats a drug using no-no.
Too drunk to drive, too jittery to just sit in the back seat.
Sweet malt beverages? - Check. Had them for years. Zima, Malt Duck, ...
:)
Caffinated beer? - Check. Coffee stouts have been around for a looong time. My 30 year old homebrewing manual has a few recipies.
Mixing the concepts? - Priceless! Because you couldn't pay me to drink the stuff.
You DON'T make great beer. You make yeasty, soupy nasty bitters, and weak lagers. If you are from Germany, than I apologize for the insult. Germans make great beer.
This competes with Red Bull and Vodka and its derivitives.
Nudge, nudge. Link, link.
This isn't for carb watchers as it has 22 grams in there. Probably all sugar. 6.6 percent alcohol will be chasing the Jager Bomb crowd.
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For quite a while now when friends and I are out late we've sometimes asked a bartender to put a shot of espresso in a glass of porter or stout. Way tasty, and it lets us old farts stay out later.
Highly recommended. I've had a couple of sweet beers, mostly homebrews, and I can see that option being good too. I'm dubious that these guys would pull off one that I'd like, though...
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Chocolate covered coffee beans?
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Excedrin?
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Check.
Caffeinated 6-pack of Beer in the fridge?
Check.
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Is the first I've seen of the "Energy Drink Beer" series. It smells like orange soda and tastes like a Sweet Tart.
6% alcohol cancels out the stimulants though,
Anyone who has had a few JaegerBombs (Jagermeister & RedBull)
will tell you this is a somewhat dangerous brew.
After about 3, voices will start telling you to get up on the bar and dance, tear your clothing, and bury cab drivers in your backyard.
Hide the shovels.
Not sure how I feel about ginseng in my brew, so I'll have to study this with a few cases. I'm guessing initially euphoric... slightly warm... followed by a spinning sensation... and possibly vomitting... followed by massive headache and nausea
The Skittlebrau Project was also mentioned on slashdot some time ago.
Life is the leading cause of death in America.
to have a drink that would make you have to take a leak faster?
Why do the major American beermakers have to keep America as the laughingstock of international brewing. For christ's sake, their existing products can barely be called beer at this point. More swill for dumbasses, I guess. Good thing I homebrew.
Many of beer variants are sweet. This is mostly related to the fact that all of them start with some form of sugar as a base to feed the yeast.
Meads and Barleywines are typically quite sweet, and also have a much higher alcohol content than beer. Mead, of course, using honey as it's sugar base, as opposed to using grains. (hot water convertes the starches in grains into sugars)
If you want beer with caffeine that isn't sweet, just drink any of the numerous coffee-based stouts or porters.
Think about it...
Caffeine + Alcohol + Lots of Liquid --> You'll be running to the toilets every five minutes.
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Amazing what artificial flavors can accomplish.
Although, yes, it's nice to see a big player pushing new product...
Personally, I'll stick with my scotch.
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I'm not sure how I feel about sweet beer.
-Rich
Am I the only one who read this and though of the Pan Galatic Gargle Blaster, which is like being whacked round the head with a gold brick wrapped in a slice of Lemon? or am I just weird?
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Sweet! An upper AND a downer at the same time! Now why didn't I think of that??? I'm just going to go over here and have another Bowl-Blaster (Jagermeister and Red Bull, 1:1 ratio). Cheers!
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You can drink it, it's over the counter!
...a few cases. It's disgusting. Made me puke.
Seeking coveted "mullet" marketshare, Anheuser-Bush shits in a can and sells it.
Upper downer ? Upper downer? I can't decide! Wait! I will have a BE beer and do both at the same time!
But seriously, if this is a sweet beer, won't this turn guys off ? Isn't there some things about beer that are sacred ?
mmmmmmm beeeeer, nice cold fraothy *drool* beeeer
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My understanding is that before hops, marijuana buds were used in the beer making process. You know that skunky taste? Yeah, well it used to be stronger. And the buzz, well I bet it was a good buzz.
So while we're at it let's add coca too. Now that would be an all-american brew ALA Coca Cola. Coca Beer with old fashioned skunky bud kick. Yow! It's party time.
The Mill Street Brewery, a local Toronto brewery, makes a coffee beer that is actually surprisingly good. I've got a couple bottles left in my fridge at the moment. Check it out:
Mill Street Brewery's Coffee Porter
Haven't tried B(E), but I've been on this stuff
http://drinksparks.com/
for about a year now and it's... interesting. Definitely hits you both ways at once. I've stayed up all night as a result on more than one occasion. Basically like a low grade form of speed without such bad side effects. That, and it tastes like orange Crush.
A local Brewey here has something called espresso stout... good stuff,just like regular stout, with the pleasant taste of coffee (from a local coffee house btw) at the end of every drink. The best part is, if you get drunk on it, you can keep drinking, but... that is also the worst part... beucoup hangovers...
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I like to think I created this caffinated drink craze at Defcon 8.
Back before redbull became popular They decided to advertise at Defcon by giving away free RedBulls.
I was 18 at the time and smuggled 24 waterbottles of vodka onto my plane to hold me over in vegas. The problem, I couldn't afford mixers. (You know where this is going)
About 10 Red bulls (NO CLUE HOW STRONG THEY WERE THEN) and 5 "water bottles" later the sun was coming up and I was in a hotel room w/2 strippers and 30 people I had NO CLUE who they were.
I also puked off the 32nd floor balcony.
Good times.
Maybe the ginseng is in there to counteract the "drooping" effect that too much beer can have on certain parts of the anatomy?
(Yes, that's real coffee they put in it.)
Never mind Spamassassin. When's Spammerassassin coming out?
As a fellow South African I also recommend Castle.
I'm now living in France, and the beer here is sweeter - once you get used to it though its fine.
B(E)? The geek in me reads that as "B of E" and then turns that phonetically into BFE, a vulgar initialism for "bum f* egypt," meaning the middle of nowhere.
How do companies decide to call things by stupid unpronounceable names? Pentax *istD Olympus m:robe
Then you have the stupid names which are just too close to derogatory names. I'm not talking about creative stretches of normal words like "Back Orifice" or "Internet Exploder." I'm talking about nonsense turned into the nearest possible normal words. Olympus eVolt sounds revolting.
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Although something like this gives marketing weenies something to do for another couple of months until the next novel idea hits them, I would bet that there is no real market for a beverage like this. I could be wrong, but wine coolers were big almost 20 years ago, and now not even girls are girly men enough to drink wine coolers.
I'm a kinda traditional guy, I'm mostly a beer drinker, I guess you can call me a Joe Sixpack that was so popular here a few months ago. There seems to be a human affinity for the big three alcoholic beverages -- beer, wine, and spirits and we are talking a very long history here.
One big mistake (IMHO) that A-B is making with the B(E) product is by packing it in 10 oz bottles with only 6.6% alcohol. I'm guessing its gonna cost as much or more than the equivalent 12 oz drink, and its just going to be "off" unless everyone else is drinking the same.
BTW, I miss eveyone here trying to get Joe Sixpack to use Linux, that was amusing.
Nice to hear that our beer is better, but I actually just threw Castle in to be patriotic - I much prefer Windhoek myself...
Daar is nie 'n lepel nie
For the same people who drink Smirnoff Ice, sweet wine, and spoil good scotch with Red Bull. Real men shouldn't touch this stuff with a 10-foot pole.
Isn't mixing stimulants and depressants (ginseng and alcohol) a bad thing? There are incidences of people mixing vodka and Red Bull and actually dying. I'm sure this is due to drinking an inordinate amount, but still uppers and downers together doesn't sound like good eats.
What happened to beer flavored beer. I miss that.
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Intended to compete with the trendy sweet concotions popular on the club scenes (such as Smirnoff Ice), it will contain caffeine, guarana, and ginseng
So it's red bull beer?
On another note, will this create an entirely new type of addiction? Alcohol is already addictive, but caffeine has been proven to be addictive as well. This drink will effectively combine the addictive powers of 2 substances in one, creating a sort of uber addict. I mean, it's like combining slashdot and heroine.
Europe is the continent that invented caffeinated wine... in the 19th century. Apparently that crap is actually popular there too (at least in parts of the UK).
You've been fucking up fine drinks for centuries, so now is no time to start complaining. =]
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Red Hook had a double black stout with starbucks coffee back in the 90's. Demand was low and they discontinued it.
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This just in, beer is now more addictive than coffee!
I thought it was a bad thing to mix drugs, uppers/downers?
Coffee flavored beers have been around for ages, so the concept of a caffeinated beer is hardly unique, but I can see a problem in the stability in this beer:
1.) When I brew beer (a recent hoby of mine), ph is highly important in the brewing process. The higher the acidity in the beer, the more likely the beer is to spoil. Example: put a Rolling Rock, a Bud, and a Buzzard Bay Ale in a warm room. First to go is the Buzzard. Second the Bud, and finally the Rock. Buzzard has a high ph level, bud medium, rock low.
Same with sweet beers (especially creamy stouts, where one adds lactose to the beer to make it "sweeter" since the yeast cannot ferment the lactose. But several types of bacteria can. Same problem exists with sweetened pasturized beers: minor contamination, the beer is gone.) Sweet beers, in my experiance, goes "skunk" a lot faster.
So all and all, I believe that this beer would probably spoil before someone gets the nerve to try it.
And for the asinine critics out there on my title for this post, I understand that this would most likly be a lager than stout, but poetic lisence counts for a lot...
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They must get a nickel every time someone runs to the John. Don't we suffer enough!
Hey, look at the bright side: with the convenience of two powerful diuretics in one convenient product, your other arm is free for carrying the two liter of bottle you'd need to stay hydrated.
I think for true beer (German purity laws I think, but what do I know, I can't legally drink the stuff for another 6 months (I've waited 20 years, I can wait another 6 months)) it is 5 ingrediants: hops, barley, yeast, malt, and water.
This must be the product to contend with Drew Carey's Buzz Beer! Let the price wars begin
-Will
Grab yourself a table and order a Java Porter.
The same goes for my company's entire subnet. What the hell is going on? This has been like this for more than a week now. We have been sending letters about this to the people running slashdot, but no luck.
This is weird and annoying. The most annoying thing is having no idea what we did to deserve this treatment.
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Stay up and get drunk all over again!
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A couple years ago my brother, a chef who got me into brewing, and I made a batch of beer we called "Crystal Meth". It was dubber so based on the use of crystal malt only and, of course, coffee. The crystal malt has more unfermentable sugars so it leaves more sweetness behind that typical malt. We also used a light-bodied coffee bean from Guatemala. The lighter the roast, the more the caffience. It made for a great tasting beer, though it didn't leave you 'wired' as one might expect. Then again, I am a coffee drinker, so maybe I've just have a higher tolerance.
P.S. Stick to a low acid hop since you'll get some bittering just from the coffee
If this keeps a person from passing out when they are drinking heavily, won't this lead to more drinking for longer periods of time? Then possibly leading to a higher rate of alcohol poisoning especially in a college environment...
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The perfect beer for when I'm rocking out to Britney Spears and trying to figure out which cologne to wear for the night!!1
It's both a stimulant and a depressant. They offset so you feel NOTHING at all!
It was only a matter of time...
Finally a replacement for my morning coffee.
Drinks/food with all these psychoactive chemicals really makes me wonder if it would be safer (and more effective) just to legalise Ecstasy. E is rather safe, after all (the government just flat-out lies about its safety). It also provides a far more pleasant high than alcohol and certainly caffeine, and users report that they are basically "themselves", unlike being drunk where you just lose it.
Is an energetic drunk. Usually, drunk people are happy up until the point atwhich they tire out. Now, with this stuff, they can party hard all day, evening, night, morning...for a few days until they either pass out or die...
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Just what we need, another bitch-beer. This sure is great marketing though:
"Anheuser-Busch designed the new brew for 21- to 27-year-old drinkers who seek novel beverages and switch drinks more frequently according to mood and occasion"
Translation? We're getting trounced by the liquor companies in the "girls who just recently turned 21 and don't like the taste of *real* beer demographic", so here's our obligatory entry into the "malt beverage" foray, but unlike those other companies, we'll come right out and call ours beer, since after all, we're Anheuser-Busch. Anyway enough ranting, I'm off to get another Zim^H^H^HGuiness.
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The stuff tastes like flavored sugar water.
Fry: I'll never get used to the 31st century. Caffeinated bacon? Baconated grapefruit? Admiral Crunch?
Leela: Well if you don't like that, try some Archduke Chocula.
It would wonderful for an english speaker *from* England, even, to have a grasp of the language, format, grammer and syntax that we yanks have so long labored to keep intact.
How about trying to pen coherent sentences?
renal failure in addition to liver damage =)
At least you'll be awake and in a good mood while you "learn to enjoy" it
Just what the highways need at oh-dark-thirty in the A.M... a bunch of wide awake drunks behind the wheel.
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I don't drink beer to stay awake.
Live forever, or die trying.
Of course they want to have you addicted on two ends so they can milk lots of money out of you. That is all these guys care about.
Now I can drown my sorrows and stay up all night to finish my problem sets! Speaking of which...
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downer + upper = No effect, except that the alcohol and the caffeine dehydrate you.
I like how changing beer from anything but a weak, tasteless, yellow coloured water in the U.S. becomes a front page /. story.
Canada has enjoyed strong, flavoured malted beverages for a long time now. And if you like coffee and beer, you can always combine the two, right?
Haven't any of you heard of the beer Moonshot? I've seen it around for a couple of months now.. php
http://www.realbeer.com/news/articles/news-002337
I drank it once. I had to do a shot of overproof rum to get the horrible taste out of my mouth.
There have been lots of "craft beers" with caffine in them. Such as coffee stouts and porters. One of the original founders of the Boston beer company released a beer called Moonshot. I first starting seeing it here in Atlanta earlier this summer. It is a pilsner with 45 mgs of caffine (about as much as there is in 1/2 cup of coffee). That is apparently the maximum amount of caffine allowed by law in many states (at least in Georgia) in a 12 oz. alcoholic beverage.
Moonshot isn't my favorite beer, but it does allow people who don't like darker beers to get a little caffine in them while they are drinking. If the brewery is any indication I am sure it will be far better then anything AB puts out.
Yes, stuff a lemon wedge down the neck (ala Corona) and I think you're on to something!
One of my favorite mixed drink mixtures is
Windsor Canadian Whiskey and Mountain Dew
Finally I can just drink beer to get the same effect.
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If you did, you'd have all the food groups:
- Fat
- Salt
- Sugar
- Caffeine
- Beer
Yum!
"it will contain caffeine, guarana, and ginseng"
They forgot viagra.
Beer cola. How many carbs? D'oh!
The problem with putting coffee in home brew is that the oil kills the head. Now if you don't mind a beer that looks flat then use coffee it tastes great.
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I wish marketing companies would stop trying to make "beer" fashionable by throwing all sorts of rubbish into it to get the "alco-pop sheep" to start drinking it.
Compared to some of the good micro-brews I've tasted out in the US, anything produced by Anheiser Busch is urine - and British real ale beats the who lot of them hands down.
Beer brewing has been done for thousands of years and has been pretty successful just by combining hops, yeast, sugar and water in different combinations and with different roasting processes of the hops. IT DOES NOT NEED TO BE CHANGED!!!
Anheiser Busch can go brew what they like and how they like but I hope they give it a name other than "beer"
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This is redundant.>has a contract with an American beer producer. Guess which.
Coors, Bud, who cares, it's all swill.>That means we can only buy American beer in the stadion.
In my experience, you're all pissed before you get there anyway.Some mornings it's hardly worth chewing through the restraints to get out of bed.
Going to be great for the dance floor until someone dies of dehydration mixing all that alcohol and caffeine together.
I find the fact that in the US Smirnoff Ice has to be a strange brewed beverage that's almost a beer, while everywhere else it's a pre-mixed Smirnoff+mixer drink quite amusing.
Well then what about Sparks malt liquor? As a musician, I can testify to the Sparks, where drinking it gets you to loosen up but you don't stoner out and write drone-ish song. http://www.drinksparks.com/ Ya gotta love how the can is painted to look like an orange battery, with the positive and negative terminals.
I call it The Olympian - it keeps you running full speed all night (and most of the next day) like an olympic athlete.
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An acquired taste, but sure to get you drunk, black you out, and keep you going!
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...where's my Skittle-brau?
Isn't beer (alcohol) a depressent. Would adding caffine neutralize the depressent. We need some sociological experiments, NOW!
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I have had this from a few other breweries, Nelson Brewing company www.nelsonbrewing.com (I believe) however they no longer make it?
Why? Because it is terrible:
http://www.unibroue.com/products/terrible.cfm
Why the very thought of anyone drinking such a low class beverage has CAUSED MY MONOCLE TO POP RIGHT OUT! And really, who drinks beer in this day and age anyway? Everyone should drink only expensive wine and scotch.
Why just the other day my chauffeur took a wrong turn off of the freeway and pulled me past this run down little liquor store where this shabby looking man (who by the way was driving a Pontiac! A PONTIAC!!!) who hadn't shaved for a couple of days was walking out with a bottle of Johnny Walker Red. RED LABEL?! I exclaimed, exhaling a puff of cigar smoke and tipping my top hat back in a bemused manner. WHO ARE THESE CRETINS? I practically had my driver phone the police right then and there...
I just happen to be both sleepy and thirsty at the moment. Now if only I could have this 2 for 1 beverage of champions at work I would be set.
By the way, the horse on the label is not part of the logo, it's the source of the (so-called) beer.
My brother spent 4 years in Zaire in the peace corps. Since they didn't party that often it was imperative to get as much partying in as possible on the yearly occasions where they did. The way to do it was to put a cola-nut in each beer they drank so that they could load up equally on uppers with their downers.
Not my idea of fun, but then neither is getting malaria, skin cancer and living in a mud hut, so what do I know?
Right next to Shower Shock.
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Koffee buhzzez YOU!
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Actually there's been a caffeinated beer out here in the UK for yonks - but the stuff is undrinkable.. It honestly does taste like drip-tray, there's virtually no distinction in my book..
Mill St Coffee Porter is brewed around here. It's great. It even comes in proper stubbies...
"The majority of beer drinkers, and people we are trying to approach with this product, are not terribly concerned with carbs all the time," said Lachky.
So the target audience is fat party sluts (no man is going to drink fruity beer).
in bed.
http://www.moonshotbeer.com/
I know it's available throughout Boston, but I've never tried it.
Great, if I drink this beer I'll have to make twice as many trips to the men's room.
It is by the juice of the coffee bean that thoughts acquire speed, the teeth acquire stains. The stains become a warning
I was in paris for a few days in September this year and happended to see a can of energy beer. This is nothing new it seems to have been done before. This thing has like 9% alcohol. Too bad it tasted like shit. Beer and energy drinks don't mix IMO.
Hold up, wait a minute, let me put some pimpin in it
Well, I got the impression that the Clean Water Act was started, at least in part, by manufacturers of Feenamint, which found that the effects of bisacodyl (which will sack your ass something fierce), that was used instead of suppositories which were very undesirable. Runs are a demoralizer and squelches promiscuity, caffein a diuretic which interferes with jogging...
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The perfect thing for pouring on my corn flakes.
Karma: It's not just a good idea. It's the law.
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This ... is the .... I mean wow! I thought Space Ship One winning the X-Prize was cool but this?
There are no words to describe it, only tears of happiness.
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Why is it that in every story that mentions beer the beer snobs have to come out and complain about US brew?
Some people are happy drunks, some violent drunks, some just drunk. Me, i'm a tired drunk. I drink 2 beers and I want to find a nice bed to sleep in. Having a liquor with caffine in it that won't break the bank (like Red Bull with something else added) and still get me buzzed might be what I need. My annoyed wife might actually be able to stay out for more than 3 hours at a club now...which I might like as well (hint: drunk nookie is good).
Next thing you know, they'll be putting ginko biloba into beer so that you can get drunk, do something stupid, and remember it in the morning.
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So now a national distributor is selling a cute club drink with a little round "E" logo.
Here comes the hypocrisy.
On the one hand, the club scene and E are touted as a terrible blight on the land, with parties shut down and promotors jailed, and on the other you're selling it to us in cans.
No thanks, but nice try. Keep those marketing ideas coming.
Really, the 'sweet beer' label is just a marketing gimic to cover for the fact that they are making a late entry to an expanding market.
The grass is only greener, if you don't take care of your own lawn.
I still recommend my concoction to any beer loving coffee affectionado. Two shots of good espresso in a pint of stout. After a night of those, you get that perfect wide awake drunk going. If, of course, you can't handle a whole night of these, just one or two is enough to keep you strong until the sun comes up.
I thought the name was fitting because the night I decided to try it I was having a hard time deciding whether to make a cup of coffee or have a beer. It still sounds kind of stupid, though. Oh well.
If you want a vision of the future, imagine a youtube comments section scrolling - forever.
B to the power of E
Beer with Extra
not B of E
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It is amazing the number of little kids who love the taste of beer. It may be an aquired taste for some, but not all.
I recently went on one of the better brewery tours where the main goal is to drink good beer and not to be bored about the brewery process(however that is given too and can be interesting). I recommend it to anyone who wants to see what milwaukee breweries are all about. The best bet is to stay with the smaller breweries although the Miller tour is free which is a great plus.
I can't stand these fruity types of drinks that are marketed to my age group. Am I so different from the norm in that all I want is a good brew that I can enjoy irresponsibly. At least due to the drinking culture of Wisconsin I do have some choices. Any city whos baseball team is the Brewers knows how to enjoy their booze.
The Berkshire Brewing Company has been using coffee beans as an adjunct for awhile now, and the Dean's Beans Coffeehouse Porter is quite tasty. I doubt they are the first to do this, either.
Drew Carey had this one figured out a LONG time ago. This isn't news! "Buzz Beer! Stay up and get drunk all over again!" Perhaps not an exact quote, but the slogan was similar.
Now we have our choice of
Angry drunks
Sad drunks
Happy drunks
PLUS!
Hyper drunks
Chatty drunks
Oscillating drunks.
Woohoo.
And which genius at AB decided what beer needs is MORE diuretic effect.
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How is this different than half beer & half coke which is called diesel were I live...
Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.
Try Red Hook Coffee Stout or Bells Java Stout. Both good, but I'll tilt a glass of Bells any day of the week.
People!!!
Alcohol lowers inhibitions, fortunately when you're too drunk, not all of the equipment will work properly. The addition of ginseng means that no matter how drunk you get, you'll be able to perform with whatever skank you take home from the bar.
LK
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Or something like that.
"Waste not one watt!" - CZ
Don't forget Archduke Chocula ;)
Remember, Alcohol is a sedative, while caffeine is a stimulant. Mixing the 2 isn't really a good idea.
Sometimes I wish I was a plumber, then I'd know how to deal with other people's shit.
Is that the PC way of saying 13-18 year olds enjoy sweeter tastes? Because that's who drinks the alco-pop crap.
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There's nothing better than getting blatzed at The Blatz.
I agree with the parent: beer does not deserve to be adulterated like that. If you like alcohol in your coffee, you might try to give it "legs" with rum or whiskey, though I'd argue that this does justice to neither.
You could've hired me.
Not sure how I feel about ginseng in my brew, so I'll have to study this with a few cases.
Yeah, Taco, I'm sure that'll be hard work.
Always look on the briight side of life! (whistle, whistle)
By the same arguement (the alcohol would get in your system faster), you might start to sober up faster, too. Absorption wouldn't take as long, so the alcohol would be in your bloodstream sooner, therefore getting chewed up by your liver sooner.
Point 3: I'll stick to my Crough's microbrew. Bud is pisswater, even when I was in college.
Chris Knight is my hero.
Lol.
I've got a vat of coffee based super high alcohol waiting to be bottled. It's sort of sweet, but nothing grows on it, or even close to it anymore.
All the yeast is dead, and if my earlier batches are any indication, it is somwhere around 25% alcohol.
Yum yum goodness, but give me your keys.
Hint: This is "informative".
Just open the round with a Nicotini and hope the other stuff is sweet enough to wash out something that "tastes like a cross between vodka and chewing tobacco." I'm sure you could drop a shot of nicotine infused vodka into it alla Dr. Peppers... but either way it sounds like a recipe for Hoerk to me :)
I'll have my vices one at a time.
Mixing uppers and downers can screw with your system, but redbull isn't particularly nutritious. Unlike gatorade or powerade, which i see some people mixing with. Not sure about the exact science but a bartender friend of mine gave me a lecture once, something about how the electrolytes change how your body absorbs the alcohol...
"Sic Semper Tyrannosaurus Rex."
What a fucking crime. Anhauser is a decent 1516 Barvarian Law of Purity conforming brew which A-B only has at their tasting rooms.
Have you ever tried to bong a Newcastle? Because let me tell you, that's a one-way ticket to the bathroom.
Anheuser-Busch, said during a conference call Monday. "Sweeter flavors have definitely made an impact on 21- to 35-year-olds. ... It's a bigger part of the alcohol-drinking spectrum."
21-35? If my local liquor store is any indication, it is more like 12-21. And now they will be hopped up on caffeine as well. Oh, great.Im wondering what this will do to my heart. Caffeine and alcohol can really make you feel bad. I cant have more than 3 vodka and redbulls without feeling really bad. My body is confused enough with all i feed it.
Abandon all hope ye who enter here...
Bell's Brewery in Kalamazoo, MI has been brewing this stuff for a while. http://www.bellsbeer.com/branddetail.asp?BrandID=4 3 I've enjoyed many nights hopped up on this stuff!
What are you, eight?
This is pronounced "B to the E"
Dear God help us all.
Why does this remind me of Cool Colt, the menthol-flavored malt liquor? It's like an exec saw that Red Bull was selling well and decided to mix it in with a Bud.
Stay up... and get drunk all over again!
I want my Cowboyneal
It's called $4.00 a bottle. Damn it bud I can get for a $1 draft. This means more drunk more long more happy. Plus have more bills to give to the strippers. Before going out with the boys would cost upwards of $50 drinking imports. But after seeing the light $10 worth of bud can get one very lit.
First thing that crosed my mind was irish coffee.
:)
The Original Irish Coffee
The caffeen alters the effect. You can more appreceate being blitzed when your brain stays functional due to caffeen.
"Caffine is life" - What happends when you replace Jemhadars white with foldgers crystals.
(That is just before they go insane and kill everyone)
I don't actually exist.
"Man! That fat chick over there looks so hot... and I can't stop talking about it!"
they have a variety of these type of mixes, for example Cab -- Cola and Beer. Now back to your show (the German TV watchers will get this).
and how do they expect us to get laid if we can't even count on the light-weight co-eds passing out!?
Red Hook made their very tasty Double Black Stout (made with Starbucks Coffee - the only legitimate use I've found for it so far) until 2002.
Someone else already mentioned Drew Carey's Buzz Beer, but that's only on the show. AFAIK, anyway, any Cleveland readers care to comment?
-l
From their live performance at the Hollywood Bowl:
"We find that your American beer is a bit like making love in a canoe."
"Making love in a canoe?"
"Yeah, it's fucking close to water."
*ba dum dum, tsshhhhh*
"Jesus saves, but everyone else in a 10 foot radius takes full damage from the fireball."
*ponder*
Why is discussing beer offtopic?
sheesh! Sometimes a guy just wants to drink something other than a twelve million calorie mug of porridge!
Caffeine and alcohol may not be all it's cracked up.
I once saw someone use Jolt for mix. By the end of the night he was so bombed he needed to sleep but so wired he couldn't sit still. Not a pretty sight.
At the time, he most assuredly was not in a good mood for the experience.
Cheers
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That's nothing. If anyone comes down to my local and orders a Red Bull and vodka, *I* ask them to leave.
Breakfast served all day!
Apparently the poster isn't a beer drinker. Red Hook offered a stout brewed with starbucks coffee for years.
Here is their explanation for why they discontinued it two years ago:
Sadly, Doubleblack Stout was retired in January of 2002 because demand for the beer dropped to levels where commercial production was no longer viable. We have secured the recipe in the brewers' vault in hopes that one day Doubleblack will rise like a phoenix from the ashes of brewing history to once again slake the thirsts of stout fans from sea to shining sea.
Cheers,
The Beer Guru
-chris
Caffeine has been added to beer before, this isn't really news. See the other posts on here about homebrewed beers with coffee. This may be interesting more as a flavoring than an actual 'pick-me-up'.
Example: Someone I think mentioned rootbeer. Rootbeer generally does not have caffeine in it. Barq's Rootbeer does however have it added, and that's where the "Barq's has bite!" phrase comes from. The bitter character of caffeine is supposed to create this bite! (I can't help but point an exclamation point after that) But the caffeine in Barq's is in no way on par with coke, pepsi, Mt. Dew, Jolt, or do I have to even mention Bawls.
I hope that this caffeinated beer doesn't catched on as a trend because of the 'pick-me-up' effect, but rather as a flavoring (BITE!).
Besides, what really happens when you mix this stimulant and this depressant? You end up right back where you were...only a little clumsier.
If you are reading this, then you are one of those people whom I just can't take seriously.
This sounds like a great reason to pass the Reinheitsgebot in the US. The Reinheitsgebot is the German law from the 15hundreds that said the only ingredients in Bier could be barley, hops and water. Although they do allow for wheat in weissbier. Granted, Belgium has done some good stuff with cherries and I do like a honeyweiss on occasion, this is proof that the we in the US are not to be trusted.
I try not to drink (at least knowingly) beers which would not past the German Purity Law
If it says beer on the label then it should pass.
Otherwise it is maybe a "malt beverage" or an "ale" or "barley pop" or "crap" or "whatever". Just not beer.
That is just me though. I am sure that Johney Sixpack would love an eyeopener like this.
I just glanced at the topic and thought it said "Caffienated Bear".
Either that or I need some coffee.
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I just brewed one and didn't have this problem at all. The beer was a very dark, Guiness-like stout with a pot of strong coffee added to the fermenter. The head was thick enough to cut with a knife - just as you would expect without coffee.
I think your results probably depend on how you brew your coffee.
Sean
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HAND.
There'll probably be very small amounts of ginseng. People do and will make cocktails of different products, but, at least in the US, fear of liability will prevent any single product from posing significant risks. I haven't found Ginseng stimulating, I think a lot of energy drinks contain Niacin(or derivatives) which increases blood flow to the skin, but doesn't provide actual energy.
I can pop 4-5 buds back (ugh...the horrors!) and barely even feel anything at all.
Give me a good stout anyday, and after a few pints I'm feelin' just dandy.
I really think it's the lack of variety available, coupled with people not getting used to the wonderful taste of a REAL beer (pale ales are all pissy beer) that results in stupid mass-produced beer.
Everyone should just avoid any beverage that actually has a TV commercial to drink it. I mean, why do they actually have to put out a TV commercial to convince people to drink it?
I used to drink Revs back in the day... (7% vodka, caffeine and guarana). It was like drinking battery acid, my stomach would be paying for it later on. Plus you get higher then a kite off just 4 of them.
I like how marijuana stays illegal, yet these "drugs" that mess you up alot more, stay legal.
I brewed caffienated beer several years ago. Actually contained three pots of coffee in 5 gallons of beer. It was pretty good. Coffee goes well with a stout. I'm not aware of it agreeing with anything Anheuser Bush brews, but then again, I'm not aware of anything going well with an Anheuser-Bush brew. (a little beer-snobbery there).
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Here's one recipe:
http://www.stoutbillys.com/stout/recipens/(Flat)/
But it does the same thing:
Sparks is basically red bull + malt liquor in a large can. Watch out though - if you drink more that one of these in a night you won't be feeling too pretty the next day.
LS
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Red Bull + Alcohol has been popular for years, and the popularity of these drinks has grown at a crazy pace. The rage went from Red Bull / Vodka to "Bomb" shots and Sparks now.
The market has been out there for this for over 4 years. Many of you are "appauled", but this will most definitely make money if it's priced right. As a college student and party-animal, we are constantly doing stupid things to our bodies for a great night. The problem has been that all other cheap solutions are liquor-based, not beer-based. Problem solved, sign me up!
(And yes, I've put instant coffee into a pint of beer and chugged it. It works but isn't too great as you'd imagine)
Berto
So people will be able to get loopy on this beer, but the caffeine will make it feel like they're not getting loopy...?
I see more drunk-driving incidents ahead. What say you all?
What is going to be the chemical effects on mood and body when mixing Caffeine with it? I'm sorry... but it seems quite the odd combination.
Drink Sparks
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Great, we'll all have to stay up much later now to catch the fascinating people walking into Denny's, away from their drunken adventures :)
-jc
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It was called double black stout.
Started with a redhook stout beer and added starbucks coffee.
Not exactly targeted at the younger drinking crowd.
Not being a coffee drinker I could only describe the flavor as funky..
i was in germany this past march and was given a CAB (cola and beer) in a can. while i tried not to appear too disgusted to my gracious hosts, i pulled the libation to my lips.
not too bad. dunno if i could put down 6 of them on a sunday afternoon watching my team. but, it was not as bad as it sounds. and, from a marketing POV it woulnt have the 'pussy-factor' Zima seemed to radiate, IMO.
if it ain't broke, break it.
Take some brewed coffee. Pour it back into the machine. Put in some fresh grindings. Rebrew.
Put this liquid into a pot and heat it to boiling. In a Mug (Large), place several shots of your favorite hard liquour, then fill with some ice.
Pour boiling coffee into mug over ice.
Be Drunkenly Alert for hours.
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"Qua!?"
Beer mixed with cola (aka Diesel) is quite popular in Germany - the most popular brand seems to be Mixery. Dunno why though - they've got some of the best beers in the world.
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But there is a distinction between drinking beer because beer is proof that god loves us, and drinking beer to get pissed. For the first cause I sit around drinking a decent IPA (usually Stone). For the second I quaff PBR by the bucket-full.
Bud is crap though. PBR is MUCH better, which still isn't saying much though. It just seems that PBR tastes like beer, and is cheaper (2 12s for $10), and some bars around here (Flagstaff) have 25c PBR night (anything up to 16oz 25c), and the rest are $1 pints. I can drink a 12 of Bud and not be even slightly impaired, while a 12 of PBR will at least get me a buzz. Perhaps it is just because they used to brew PBR in my home town (Milwakee). Another thing good about PBR is that they are a smaller company, and don't cough up millions of dollars saying that they will make the "bitches" like you, while allowing you to throw a 300yrd pass, all in your backyard with pretty people.
But most of the time I drink beer because it tastes good, and is a good way to wind down. For that there is Stone IPA (or Arrogant Bastard), Guinness, or Paulaner Heifeweissen.
Taste is by far more important than a good drunk. Besides if a 12 pack of Bud can get you drunk, a six pack of Stone IPA should really get you, for cheaper.
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Mill Street Brewery makes outsanding Coffee Porter, for you beer buffs, its something to try. Afaik caffeine is pretty resilient to heat and other processes, so I think there is some caffeine left.
. ht m
http://millstreetbrewery.com/beers_coffeeporter
The caffeine and alcohol will cancel each other out.
The majority of beer drinkers here in the states want something weak and tasteless that they can knock back ASAP and reach for another...
See, I never got that whole mentality. That's why I drank hard liquor and cocktails. For less money overall, I could drink more alcohol in a shorter period of time. (Try to find beer that gives a better alcohol/money ratio than cheap vodka and orange juice.)
American beer is for tasteless people who can't hold their liquor.
This energy drink/alcholic beverage has been around for quite a while now, so B(E) isn't exactly an original idea, mostly an imitation of an already sucessful product.
There are a ton of great, independent American beers. I agree with the tragedy of Redhook - kind of like when Coors bought Pete's.
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This is a few years old...
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Baanana flavored Hefen-Weiszen?
Ask you said that a brewmaster in Germany fell over and died
"Nimis exaltatus rex sedet in vertice - caveat ruinam!"
Sounds good. Drink piss-water & hand the savings to strippers.
Just the drink to make your digestive track want to get back of you. Think of it! You can be drunk and have a hangover at the same time!
WRONG. Coors is indeed NOT heat-pasteurized.
While they may be a crappy brewery (although Blue Moon, a rather good wheat beer, is brewed by Coors), they are one of the top two ceramics companies in the world, with Kyocera being the other one.
Coors? Ceramics? Rather than heat pasteurization, Coors mastered the art of making ceramic microparticulate filters. Instead of killing the critters, Coors just filters them out. Coors is most likely the #1 company in the world as far as filtering technology.
Coors Ceramics and Coors Brewing Company are now seperate companies, but there's a reason they have the same name and are both headquartered in Golden, CO.
retrorocket.o not found, launch anyway?
.. Is their Anheuser World Select beer. It has a lot of taste. I think it is best a little warm.
They also own about 2,700,000 shares of Red Hook beer. I believe that is about a third of the outstanding shares.
They even make their own stout, Bare Knuckle Stout. I have never tried it. It seems to have a limited release.
Here is a list of all of their beers.
http://www.anheuser-busch.com/overview/abi.html/
Many of us homebrewers have been making coffee beers for a long time, and they can quite good. I've got a mocha beer in the works right now. Young's makes a double chocolate stout that is really delicious. I'm not aware of any comercially available coffee beers though.
Nice Marmot
It does amuse me that this new product is going to drive drug testers crazy with the new results they are going to get. And the mayhem that will ensue at the average frat house kegger when a bunch of drunken idiots who are wired on caffiene would certainly be a sight to see. It would make Animal House look like something that Dean Vernon Wormer would organise. And knowing how much of that liquid garbage it takes to get normal adults drunk that will be a hell of a caffiene rush!
close, 4 ingredients: barley (or wheat), yeast, hops and water. Malt sugar is the converted starch from partially germinated barley or wheat and is technically the "barley" ingredient.
Nearly half of all people are below average
This has been done in Australia, of course. Carlton & United Breweries (subsidiary of Foster's for you foreigners) released a product called "Carlton G" two or three years ago which contained caffeine and guarana. It was available for about a year before it was replaced by the next trial (a beer and vodka mix). It was designed to try and get some of the dance club set drinking beer again - the breweries have taken a hit as ravers turn to energy drinks, lollipops and ecstacy.
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So will each of the 3 billion locations be applying for its own liquor license?
...At least 7 or 8 years ago in Australia. Of course, no one bought it and the creator was summarily executed for failure to properly respect the beer. One does NOT make sweet beers nor ADD things to beer, EVER.
Course, I was joking about the summarily executed bit... We still hope parliament will pass laws allowing us to kill people who make bad beer, mix beer with other fluids (including spirits). Beer is the greatest gift the gods gave humanity next to the ability and impulse to manufacture missle weapons, it should not be taken lightly.
Of course, I just spent a couple of weeks in the tropics and could be suffering severe dehydration and hallucination. The thing about the caffeinated beer over here was true tho.
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jak.
take the fun out of mugging, why don't you?
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Very true, but in the case of Youngs Chocolate Stout, which really does have chocolate in it...
Young's Product InfoThey are now the brewers of Waggledance too, with honey in it...
"Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past." -- George Orwell
How about vodka and Bawls?
No TiVo and no caffeine make me something something...
Not sure exactly where it's from, but in Australia a drink of this vein called XLR8 has been available for at least 7 years. It not only has alcohol and caffeine but guarana and lots of sugar and carbon dioxide. I had a friend who suffered from depression who loved the stuff cause she could drink alcohol without getting all sad - in fact the guarana had her bouncing off the walls!
Pete