Monopoly$oft apologists continue attempt to make a virtue of Windoze 2008's bloat or attempt to ignore it, as they always did. Meanwhile the PC market has matured and buyers these day's are looking critically at just why they should keep throwing away hardware just to keep up with fashion. People want more RAM for desktop video editing etc not simply to boot the goddam OS and they know it. Whether the shills like it or not, buyers are questioning previous behavior. Just look at the accelerating uptake of Linux world wide.
" Gentoo installation is easy and let's me feel (correctly or not) that I'm in control. " Baby you is kiddin youself. When you get home from school today, ponder whether your grand children will care... The brightest & most productive people on the planet do not hand assemble their fax machines any more that they hand install an OS.
Did you read this (below). It is not just sarcastic, it is pretty much accurate. "Gentoo makes me so much more productive." "Although I can't use the box at the moment because it's compiling something, as it will be for the next five days, it gives me more time to check out the latest USE flags and potentially unstable optimisation settings." "Gentoo is more in the spirit of open source!" "Apart from Hello World in Pascal at school, I've never written a single program in my life or contributed to an open source project, yet staring at endless streams of GCC output whizzing by somehow helps me contribute to international freedom." "I use Gentoo because it's more like the BSDs." "Last month I tried to install FreeBSD on a well-supported machine, but the text-based installer scared me off. I've never used a BSD, but the guys on Slashdot say that it's l33t though, so surely I must be for using Gentoo." "Heh, my system is soooo much faster after installing Gentoo." "I've spent hours recompiling Fetchmail, X-Chat, gEdit and thousands of other programs which spend 99% of their time waiting for user input. Even though only the kernel and glibc make a significant difference with optimisations, and RPMs and.debs can be rebuilt with a handful of commands (AND Red Hat supplies i686 kernel and glibc packages), my box MUST be faster. It's nothing to do with the fact that I've disabled all startup services and I'm running BlackBox instead of GNOME or KDE." "...my Gentoo Linux workstation..." "...my overclocked AMD eMachines box from PC World, and apart from the third-grade made-to-break components and dodgy fan..." "You Red Hat guys must get sick of dependency hell..." "I'm too stupid to understand that circular dependencies can be resolved by specifying BOTH.rpms together on the command line, and that problems hardly ever occur if one uses proper Red Hat packages instead of mixing SuSE, Mandrake and Joe's Linux packages together (which the system wasn't designed for)." "All the other distros are soooo out of date." "Constantly upgrading to the latest bleeding-edge untested software makes me more productive. Never mind the extensive testing and patching that Debian and Red Hat perform on their packages; I've just emerged the latest GNOME beta snapshot and compiled with -O9 -fomit-instructions, and it only crashes once every few hours." "Let's face it, Gentoo is the future." "OK, so no serious business is going to even consider Gentoo in the near future, and even with proper support and QA in place, it'll still eat up far too much of a company's valuable time. But this guy I met on #animepr0n is now using it, so it must be growing!"
Thank you so much for this amusing poke in the eye to Gentoo Zealots. Way too many new users get a horrible first impression of Linux by being sadistically pointed to things like Gentoo or Slack by retard l33t teenagers with big mouths.
"I keep hearing this...but, have never really run into the problem. Unless you have a really old machine with slow processor and memory...it isn't a problem."
...whilst millions go begging for health care in India, wealthy foreigners can buy first calss care.
The same thing is happening in Australia. Whiltst many young Australians miss a chance at a tertiary education every year, wealthy foreigners can buy a place in a degree course. Lower standards for fee paying students extend to 'no fail' policies.
It is scandalous but still the government of the day sails on...
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Monopoly$oft apologists continue attempt to make a virtue of Windoze 2008's bloat or attempt to ignore it, as they always did.
Meanwhile the PC market has matured and buyers these day's are looking critically at just why they should keep throwing away hardware just to keep up with fashion. People want more RAM for desktop video editing etc not simply to boot the goddam OS and they know it. Whether the shills like it or not, buyers are questioning previous behavior. Just look at the accelerating uptake of Linux world wide.
" mp3 is here to stay! "
not any more man...
and good fucking riddance to DRM !
" Gentoo installation is easy and let's me feel (correctly or not) that I'm in control. " Baby you is kiddin youself. When you get home from school today, ponder whether your grand children will care... The brightest & most productive people on the planet do not hand assemble their fax machines any more that they hand install an OS.
Did you read this (below). It is not just sarcastic, it is pretty much accurate. "Gentoo makes me so much more productive." "Although I can't use the box at the moment because it's compiling something, as it will be for the next five days, it gives me more time to check out the latest USE flags and potentially unstable optimisation settings." "Gentoo is more in the spirit of open source!" "Apart from Hello World in Pascal at school, I've never written a single program in my life or contributed to an open source project, yet staring at endless streams of GCC output whizzing by somehow helps me contribute to international freedom." "I use Gentoo because it's more like the BSDs." "Last month I tried to install FreeBSD on a well-supported machine, but the text-based installer scared me off. I've never used a BSD, but the guys on Slashdot say that it's l33t though, so surely I must be for using Gentoo." "Heh, my system is soooo much faster after installing Gentoo." "I've spent hours recompiling Fetchmail, X-Chat, gEdit and thousands of other programs which spend 99% of their time waiting for user input. Even though only the kernel and glibc make a significant difference with optimisations, and RPMs and .debs can be rebuilt with a handful of commands (AND Red Hat supplies i686 kernel and glibc packages), my box MUST be faster. It's nothing to do with the fact that I've disabled all startup services and I'm running BlackBox instead of GNOME or KDE." "...my Gentoo Linux workstation..." "...my overclocked AMD eMachines box from PC World, and apart from the third-grade made-to-break components and dodgy fan..." "You Red Hat guys must get sick of dependency hell..." "I'm too stupid to understand that circular dependencies can be resolved by specifying BOTH .rpms together on the command line, and that problems hardly ever occur if one uses proper Red Hat packages instead of mixing SuSE, Mandrake and Joe's Linux packages together (which the system wasn't designed for)." "All the other distros are soooo out of date." "Constantly upgrading to the latest bleeding-edge untested software makes me more productive. Never mind the extensive testing and patching that Debian and Red Hat perform on their packages; I've just emerged the latest GNOME beta snapshot and compiled with -O9 -fomit-instructions, and it only crashes once every few hours." "Let's face it, Gentoo is the future." "OK, so no serious business is going to even consider Gentoo in the near future, and even with proper support and QA in place, it'll still eat up far too much of a company's valuable time. But this guy I met on #animepr0n is now using it, so it must be growing!"
Thank you so much for this amusing poke in the eye to Gentoo Zealots. Way too many new users get a horrible first impression of Linux by being sadistically pointed to things like Gentoo or Slack by retard l33t teenagers with big mouths.
"I keep hearing this...but, have never really run into the problem. Unless you have a really old machine with slow processor and memory...it isn't a problem."
- Liar! Liar! Pants ob fire!
"I wonder if there is anywhere to get original Nazi Enigma messages to decode."
Yes but where can I get some original Nazi's to send them to?
"I'll drop one off at Bletchley on the way to picking up my Gray's Sports Almanac."
I say, could'nt make that two could you old boy?
Dude/ette I saw your sig & I agree.
Slash is not a place for expression of opinion any more (whoops their goes MY mod points). Too much censoring by gangs of zealots.
I suggest they do away with whole mod thing.
WTF ?
even the most cursory examination of the facts shows this whole story to be flamebait
yer seems fishy to me
Like it's the only source based distro, NOT
Like it's the only distro with a package manager, NOT
They want to license themselves into irrelavance, that's fine with me. There's plenty of other good implementations ready to take up the slack.
http://mute-net.sourceforge.net/ ?
I have not had that experience.
The Install is non existant - unless you count Linux From Scratch as an 'install'.
The endless compiling is tiresome.
The package management is just another package manager & is buggy anyway.
The claimed speed increase is something like when you sit & hit your thumb with a hammer for hours & then stop...it feels good.
Gentoo is only one of many Source Based Distro's, it's not unique and it does not live up to the hype.
quick somebody mention Gentoo ...oh wait!
"And the Gentoo LiveCDs all ..."
Gentoo zealots seem to have enrolled in a worldwide campaign to hype this distro in every possible forum on the planet.
Any body who has one through the pain of a Gentoo install / compile will know how bogus the claims of SPEED!! really are.
I have tried Gentoo & many other distro's.
Fiddling with compiler flags in source based distro's is a waste of your time.
Use what you want just cut the hype.
http://slashdot.org/articles/02/06/04/228240.shtml ?tid=109
two words : 'vendor' & 'lock-in'
We previously used mac's in our household & business.
Apple make Monopoloy$oft look like amateurs when it comes to proporietary vendor lock-in.
...whilst millions go begging for health care in India, wealthy foreigners can buy first calss care.
The same thing is happening in Australia.
Whiltst many young Australians miss a chance at a tertiary education every year, wealthy foreigners can buy a place in a degree course. Lower standards for fee paying students extend to 'no fail' policies.
It is scandalous but still the government of the day sails on...
C'mon people, lets look to it!
We should be looking at around 1200 posts telling us why mac's are good/bad and why linux is/is'nt.
Of course you'll have the good grace to intersperse alternate posts with pro/anti monopolist rhetoric now won't you?
convert farm vehicles to use this fuel, now no more fossil fuels in the loop...
sheesh! is it so hard to work out