My God, this ruling has nothing to do with anything other than, "If you market your product as enabling the performing of crimes, you, the manufacturer/marketer, are responsible."
This ruling has nothing to do with copyright and patent, and only whether or not urging the performing of crimes is permissible. It's not, they say. Big surprise. Yes, this is me being sarcastic.
Watching the EFF lawyers try to defend their position hurt me. This is the reason I haven't donated any money to the EFF yet -- they wasted so much on the Grokster case. Every time I heard the MPAA's arguments, it made so much sense -- if you MARKET your product as a GREAT WAY TO BREAK THE LAW, you are RESPONSIBLE. NO FUCKING SHIT, Sherlock! All these people are overreacting to the ruling -- the ruling is good. If it had gone the other way, it would have been the SCOTUS going against hundreds of years of precedent in regards to "solicitation".
No, you misunderstand. Doing bodily harm is not illegal. Killing a murderer in self defense is not illegal. Killing a deer during hunting season is not illegal.
Is the mouse trap company liable? According to this ruling, if the mousetrap company advertises as "Kill any motherfucker you want with our badass mizzousetrap, bitches! You can stab all innocent people you want! It's fun!"
Are the pencil and paper companies liable According to this ruling, if the pen and paper companies market their products as "Hey, if you buy our pencils, you can copy entire copyrighted works quickly and comfortably and distribute them to all your friends with our new carbon paper! Copyright infringement is fun!"
Does it say anywhere on their website or in their EULA that the program can be used to distribute COPYRIGHTED material? While this is irrelevant to the Grokster SCOTUS case (the court decided that lower courts have to choose based on whether or not the EULA does), yes, as a matter of fact, Grokster's website did allegedly market the product as an way to get copyright-infringing material (I cannot verify this, as the website is different from its heyday -- it is now a blank white page). This is what the courts are saying, and I think it's a quite intelligent ruling -- if you market your product as the great way to break the law, you are responsible. This precedent has existed for a long time. It is called Solicitation.
Then Goddammit, you fucking UN pussies, kick China out for censoring their citizens overtly! I point out "overtly", because practically all governments censor their citizens subversively and indirectly.
Actually, more accurately, Dumbass Republic of America, as many Christians don't support Bush. The problem is, the most vocal ones are the bad eggs that fellate Bush on a regular basis.
It's like the centrists -- there are plenty of them, but, as Jon Stewart asked, what are they going to go out into the streets and chant? "BE REASONABLE!!"???
We'd all have plenty of room and plenty of resources if we could control the birth rate
I call bullshit on this one (as long as you are talking about America). As a developed nation, our birthrate is steadily declining. Japan's has already dropped below 2 (meaning the population is shrinking), and America's is at 2.1. I direct you to this link, where they state that 2002 marked an upswing in birthrate, raising it to 2.1, and finally being high enough to maintain a constant population (instead of a shrinking one).
America does not have an overcrowding problem, and will not unless we lose land (when the Middle East and Europe fight us in WW3) or make our borders completely open to immigration.
I can't help adding that Lord MacAulay practically wrote the Indian legal system himself
Wow! Add that to his long list of accomplishments: 1)Home Alone 2)Home Alone 2 3)Music Video 4)Hung out with Michael Jackson 5)Got his face all over the place when he got engaged at 17
Now I might have to work the fields instead of thinking out new stuff in the future
Yeah, I was really pissed off too! I used to work in the field of Trying to Sell My Dump. However, no one would buy! The nerve! Now I have to work in another field!
I hate the entitlement atmosphere in America. No one has the right to success, only the right to try to be successful. If you can't make money, for whatever reason, you have no entitlement to money.
I'm not trying to argue that all IP should be free; I'm just pointing out how much the entitlemeht attitude of people nowadays is annoying. I'm sure many/.ers will agree.
You know what, go ahead and call me an asshole again. I don't care. I give up reasoning with you. You can have the last word if you want. At this point I know you're never going to change your mind, and I'm never going to change mine. It's a waste of my time to even read your replies. Good day, sir.
The first person to begin throwing around insults was you, not me. Don't get confused with that. You've called me an "asshole" many times, when in fact you are eager to assume I meant foul. You can go through and read any post I've made here on/. since I joined, and you'll see that I never insult people.
Furthermore, you don't even make sense -- the first thing you say in your new post is
There's no irony
but then later in your post you admit that
There is some irony
So make up your mind. Was I right, or was I right? I don't know how many times I have to say it wasn't an insult. Why the hell would I care what you think if it was an insult? Find a good answer to that, and maybe I'll settle down. Until then, it just looks like you're itching for a reason to call someone who corrected your errors an "asshole".
And I'll admit that I do care what you say about me -- that's why I keep posting. If you really didn't care what I thought, you wouldn't have carried this conversation.
Here, I'll repost my first post: If you're going to be a Grammar Nazi, don't make the mistake of calling "action" a verb, when it is a noun. The verb you are looking for is "act".
Nope, so far no cases of me being an asshole. You called yourself a Grammar Cop the first time, and I prefer Grammar Nazi (as does most of the/. community) so I chose that word instead. I've yet to behave like an asshole. In fact, I see myself helping you by giving you what you were looking for -- the correct word.
Unless you meant that some verbs behave the same way as the noun "action" does. However, in that case, you are guilty of what you were pointing out. In that case you want to say "Like the noun 'action', some verbs..."
There's the end of the post, and I still did nothing wrong. I continued to correct you; not only that, I pointed out the irony.
Here, I'll even define the irony I was pointing out Situational irony is a situation that demonstrates an incongruity between what the reader expects or presumes to be appropriate and what actually occurs. Expected: someone who corrects grammar and refers to themselves as a "grammar cop" will be correct in their usage of grammar. The definition of "grammar" is "studies of the formation of basic linguistic units". Well, a verb is a basic linguistic unit, and you mistook a noun for a verb from my perspective. Therefore, you appeared to have made a grammar mistake. What actually occurs: Said "grammar cop" makes a mistake in grammar.
I think you are confusing "grammar" with "syntax", which is the structure of sentences. Grammar includes much more than you give it credit for.
Do you see now?
Honestly, if I was an asshole, why the hell would I care what you think? You can't mod me down, so there's no reason for me to worry.
On the other hand, if I am not an asshole, that explains why I'm still defending myself -- because I care about interpersonal relationships, and how others perceive me.
However, I will not apologize as I have nothing to apologize for. If anyone should apologize, it is you. Your first response out of the gate calls me "bitchy" and from there on out, you call me an "asshole" numerous times. Think objectively, who is the asshole here? Here's a hint: someone who posts this much to/. in defense of why he isn't an asshole isn't an asshole.
I honestly am flabbergasted that you took that so very horribly the wrong way. I was indeed trying to help you. In any case, you began by correcting someone's grammar, and made a mistake in yours. How do you not see the humor in that? I pointed it out, and you exploded.
Here, I'll point it out: a grammar error was made while correcting someone else's grammar. This is irony by very definition, and I pointed it out. And, as anyone can tell you, irony is a vehicle for humor. Do you understand now?
You say screw up your own manners when you correct someone on theirs, and you're sure to piss them off
Well, you're right -- you misinterpreted my post and corrected my manners. However, you screwed up by flinging insults, and now I'm pissed off. Again, irony.
I'm sorry you missed my humor;) And is it more me pointing out the pot calling the kettle black? Also are you sure you didn't get me mixed up? I mean, I am the one who pointed out that you switched "noun" and "verb". Sheesh. You started it (hence my humor I guess you missed).
If you're going to be a Grammar Nazi, don't make the mistake of calling "action" a verb, when it is a noun. The verb you are looking for is "act".
Unless you meant that some verbs behave the same way as the noun "action" does. However, in that case, you are guilty of what you were pointing out. In that case you want to say "Like the noun 'action', some verbs..."
I wonder how much it costs to get authentic Shaolin training in New York City. The guy is someone to be respected. If I was in New York, I'd go there to train. I don't think I'd want any Tai Chi training from Shi Yan Ming, but his Shaolin is definitely to be respected.
I realize this is going to suck, posting it on/. when I've finally gotten around to downloading this myself, but here is a link to Batman comics from 1-623 plus the annuals. Comics via torrent are great -- collectors can collect, and still be able to read without opening the seals on their preciouses. Simultaneously, fans can read rare issues without having thousands of dollars.
Let's see what happens to the torrent when/. gets wind of it. The torrent is 6.67 GB!
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I remember the first time I read "ununpentium" in a science class in middle school, I thought, "What the hell? Why does Pentium get an element named after them!" It was only later did I realize that it is latin for "one one five-ium". If I had only been a little bit older and wiser to hardware, my reaction instead might have been, "What the hell? Why isn't there an AMDium? Cadmium doesn't count!
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Yes, you are exactly right.
My God, this ruling has nothing to do with anything other than, "If you market your product as enabling the performing of crimes, you, the manufacturer/marketer, are responsible."
This ruling has nothing to do with copyright and patent, and only whether or not urging the performing of crimes is permissible. It's not, they say. Big surprise. Yes, this is me being sarcastic.
Watching the EFF lawyers try to defend their position hurt me. This is the reason I haven't donated any money to the EFF yet -- they wasted so much on the Grokster case. Every time I heard the MPAA's arguments, it made so much sense -- if you MARKET your product as a GREAT WAY TO BREAK THE LAW, you are RESPONSIBLE. NO FUCKING SHIT, Sherlock! All these people are overreacting to the ruling -- the ruling is good. If it had gone the other way, it would have been the SCOTUS going against hundreds of years of precedent in regards to "solicitation".
No, you misunderstand. Doing bodily harm is not illegal. Killing a murderer in self defense is not illegal. Killing a deer during hunting season is not illegal.
Is the mouse trap company liable?
According to this ruling, if the mousetrap company advertises as "Kill any motherfucker you want with our badass mizzousetrap, bitches! You can stab all innocent people you want! It's fun!"
Are the pencil and paper companies liable
According to this ruling, if the pen and paper companies market their products as "Hey, if you buy our pencils, you can copy entire copyrighted works quickly and comfortably and distribute them to all your friends with our new carbon paper! Copyright infringement is fun!"
Does it say anywhere on their website or in their EULA that the program can be used to distribute COPYRIGHTED material?
While this is irrelevant to the Grokster SCOTUS case (the court decided that lower courts have to choose based on whether or not the EULA does), yes, as a matter of fact, Grokster's website did allegedly market the product as an way to get copyright-infringing material (I cannot verify this, as the website is different from its heyday -- it is now a blank white page). This is what the courts are saying, and I think it's a quite intelligent ruling -- if you market your product as the great way to break the law, you are responsible. This precedent has existed for a long time. It is called Solicitation.
Unless, of course, encouraging others to commit a crime is itself a crime.
It is a crime -- Solicitation.
No, I was insulting those who worship Bush as a God (also known as a large group of Evangelical Christians in the US).
Then Goddammit, you fucking UN pussies, kick China out for censoring their citizens overtly! I point out "overtly", because practically all governments censor their citizens subversively and indirectly.
Actually, more accurately, Dumbass Republic of America, as many Christians don't support Bush. The problem is, the most vocal ones are the bad eggs that fellate Bush on a regular basis.
It's like the centrists -- there are plenty of them, but, as Jon Stewart asked, what are they going to go out into the streets and chant? "BE REASONABLE!!"???
Don't worry -- there's at least two of us. Unfortunately, this is a "me too" post :(
OK, for the mods who don't get it -- Macaulay (MacAulay) Culkin is who I was referring to.
We'd all have plenty of room and plenty of resources if we could control the birth rate
I call bullshit on this one (as long as you are talking about America). As a developed nation, our birthrate is steadily declining. Japan's has already dropped below 2 (meaning the population is shrinking), and America's is at 2.1. I direct you to this link, where they state that 2002 marked an upswing in birthrate, raising it to 2.1, and finally being high enough to maintain a constant population (instead of a shrinking one).
America does not have an overcrowding problem, and will not unless we lose land (when the Middle East and Europe fight us in WW3) or make our borders completely open to immigration.
I can't help adding that Lord MacAulay practically wrote the Indian legal system himself
Wow! Add that to his long list of accomplishments:
1)Home Alone
2)Home Alone 2
3)Music Video
4)Hung out with Michael Jackson
5)Got his face all over the place when he got engaged at 17
Now I might have to work the fields instead of thinking out new stuff in the future
/.ers will agree.
Yeah, I was really pissed off too! I used to work in the field of Trying to Sell My Dump. However, no one would buy! The nerve! Now I have to work in another field!
I hate the entitlement atmosphere in America. No one has the right to success, only the right to try to be successful. If you can't make money, for whatever reason, you have no entitlement to money.
I'm not trying to argue that all IP should be free; I'm just pointing out how much the entitlemeht attitude of people nowadays is annoying. I'm sure many
You know what, go ahead and call me an asshole again. I don't care. I give up reasoning with you. You can have the last word if you want. At this point I know you're never going to change your mind, and I'm never going to change mine. It's a waste of my time to even read your replies. Good day, sir.
The first person to begin throwing around insults was you, not me. Don't get confused with that. You've called me an "asshole" many times, when in fact you are eager to assume I meant foul. You can go through and read any post I've made here on /. since I joined, and you'll see that I never insult people.
/. community) so I chose that word instead. I've yet to behave like an asshole. In fact, I see myself helping you by giving you what you were looking for -- the correct word.
..."
/. in defense of why he isn't an asshole isn't an asshole.
Furthermore, you don't even make sense -- the first thing you say in your new post is
There's no irony
but then later in your post you admit that
There is some irony
So make up your mind. Was I right, or was I right? I don't know how many times I have to say it wasn't an insult. Why the hell would I care what you think if it was an insult? Find a good answer to that, and maybe I'll settle down. Until then, it just looks like you're itching for a reason to call someone who corrected your errors an "asshole".
And I'll admit that I do care what you say about me -- that's why I keep posting. If you really didn't care what I thought, you wouldn't have carried this conversation.
Here, I'll repost my first post:
If you're going to be a Grammar Nazi, don't make the mistake of calling "action" a verb, when it is a noun. The verb you are looking for is "act".
Nope, so far no cases of me being an asshole. You called yourself a Grammar Cop the first time, and I prefer Grammar Nazi (as does most of the
Unless you meant that some verbs behave the same way as the noun "action" does. However, in that case, you are guilty of what you were pointing out. In that case you want to say "Like the noun 'action', some verbs
There's the end of the post, and I still did nothing wrong. I continued to correct you; not only that, I pointed out the irony.
Here, I'll even define the irony I was pointing out
Situational irony is a situation that demonstrates an incongruity between what the reader expects or presumes to be appropriate and what actually occurs.
Expected: someone who corrects grammar and refers to themselves as a "grammar cop" will be correct in their usage of grammar. The definition of "grammar" is "studies of the formation of basic linguistic units". Well, a verb is a basic linguistic unit, and you mistook a noun for a verb from my perspective. Therefore, you appeared to have made a grammar mistake.
What actually occurs: Said "grammar cop" makes a mistake in grammar.
I think you are confusing "grammar" with "syntax", which is the structure of sentences. Grammar includes much more than you give it credit for.
Do you see now?
Honestly, if I was an asshole, why the hell would I care what you think? You can't mod me down, so there's no reason for me to worry.
On the other hand, if I am not an asshole, that explains why I'm still defending myself -- because I care about interpersonal relationships, and how others perceive me.
However, I will not apologize as I have nothing to apologize for. If anyone should apologize, it is you. Your first response out of the gate calls me "bitchy" and from there on out, you call me an "asshole" numerous times. Think objectively, who is the asshole here? Here's a hint: someone who posts this much to
I honestly am flabbergasted that you took that so very horribly the wrong way. I was indeed trying to help you. In any case, you began by correcting someone's grammar, and made a mistake in yours. How do you not see the humor in that? I pointed it out, and you exploded.
Here, I'll point it out: a grammar error was made while correcting someone else's grammar. This is irony by very definition, and I pointed it out. And, as anyone can tell you, irony is a vehicle for humor. Do you understand now?
You say
screw up your own manners when you correct someone on theirs, and you're sure to piss them off
Well, you're right -- you misinterpreted my post and corrected my manners. However, you screwed up by flinging insults, and now I'm pissed off. Again, irony.
I'm sorry you missed my humor ;) And is it more me pointing out the pot calling the kettle black? Also are you sure you didn't get me mixed up? I mean, I am the one who pointed out that you switched "noun" and "verb". Sheesh. You started it (hence my humor I guess you missed).
Some verbs, like "action"
..."
If you're going to be a Grammar Nazi, don't make the mistake of calling "action" a verb, when it is a noun. The verb you are looking for is "act".
Unless you meant that some verbs behave the same way as the noun "action" does. However, in that case, you are guilty of what you were pointing out. In that case you want to say "Like the noun 'action', some verbs
I wonder how much it costs to get authentic Shaolin training in New York City. The guy is someone to be respected. If I was in New York, I'd go there to train. I don't think I'd want any Tai Chi training from Shi Yan Ming, but his Shaolin is definitely to be respected.
Batman (1966) was a movie.
I realize this is going to suck, posting it on /. when I've finally gotten around to downloading this myself, but here is a link to Batman comics from 1-623 plus the annuals. Comics via torrent are great -- collectors can collect, and still be able to read without opening the seals on their preciouses. Simultaneously, fans can read rare issues without having thousands of dollars.
/. gets wind of it. The torrent is 6.67 GB!
Let's see what happens to the torrent when
I remember the first time I read "ununpentium" in a science class in middle school, I thought, "What the hell? Why does Pentium get an element named after them!" It was only later did I realize that it is latin for "one one five-ium". If I had only been a little bit older and wiser to hardware, my reaction instead might have been, "What the hell? Why isn't there an AMDium? Cadmium doesn't count!
That was so funny that you literally made me cry.
I think there will be a dupe entitled "The Onion in 2056" with a lot of /.ers bitching about "wtf mate this was posted in 2005! DUPE!!!"
And then someone will yell KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!
Someone's been reading the Wiki about Quantum Computing ;)
If you RTFA, you will see that the software literally does not exist yet.