I've read a handful of comments around the web by people who say things like "How come nasa has to spend all of that money, why didnt they think of this"
Its amazing how people dont realize that Nasa has been doing this for decades... You know back before GPS existed... which would have never have existed if it werent for Nasa and the DOD.:P People are bizarre.
I'm just repeating what Apple has said in the past when developers released products that duplicate Apple's own software.
And besides.. I dont hate apple. I love my iPhone, AND iTunes... but when iTunes stealthy installs Safari behind my back when I never installed it myself... Yeah I start to see the evils that Apple is.
I just want to see Apple being treated as bad as Microsoft is... because Its what keeps Microsoft from innovating and it would be nice to see Apple play in that world.
Apple people will defend the very same behaviors they endlessly trash Microsoft for...
And you linux zealots are all guilty as well:)
I'm just pointing out where its unfair for Apple to do many things that Microsoft would get RAPED IN COURTS FOR DOING.... and EVERYONE of you would complain to no end if MS did the same thing...
and you have been complaining for years.
Rightfully so I might add... but what makes Apple immune to your criticism?
Oh thats right... No one picks on the pretty chick because you all hope that you'll fuck her.
"Apple has made that rule clear, and it's their platform (and they don't have a monopoly) so it's not really evil."
Ok... So Microsoft can do the same right? Windows is their platform. They can dicate which browsers can be on it. For example. Microsoft has decided no more browsers are allowed because they duplicate Internet Explorer's functionality?
If the bill became law, would my rate of $1,150 a month go down, for example to $450 a month?
Or would it still be $1,150 a month?
I understand the concept of more people paying in, will lower costs... but what is in this bill that specifically will lower the price burden that every American that pays for private insurance deals with? Such as myself... who pays $1,150 a month. If this bill passes, how will it help me pay that bill? I understand the subsidies may help, especially if i can no longer afford it (which is becoming a reality by the second i must say).
Again.. I've not been able to find an answer to this question. Will my monthly bill decrease from $1,150 a month? My biggest fear is that now that we'll be locked into private insurance, they could simply raise the rates. I know theres cost control measures in the bill but... The insurance industry could raise the rates TODAY... or 4 more times this year if they wanted...
That was my point:) Fox News is not objective. They will not eat their own. They only promote their own at all costs.. and that cost is the well being of our country.
It is funny how if you're uninsured, you can get a significant discount by the doctor. But if you have insurance, they charge the insurance companies quite a bit.
This is all about profit and no one wants to lose a dime of it. Sadly this nonsense costs people their lives, and their homes.
A universal single payer system would be not for profit...
And thats the reason it was never really on the table.
This country is run by the corporations. The health insurance industry spent 1.4 million dollars a day to lobby our government in its favor.
As American citizens, we do not have 1.4 million a day for access to our representatives. We're not even heard.
I think your $1250 a month number with regards to a universal health care gov run program is incorrect. If we applied such a program to everyone, that $1250 would be much lower. More people paying in, should bring the cost, as the ratio of sick to health should allow quite a bit of savings to everyone.
The more people in the pool, the lower the rates. Am I wrong on that? If your estimate of $1250 for 2.8m military personal is correct... by adding many millions more in a universal plan for all... rates should be far cheaper than $1250 a month per person.
Actually the Wallstreet bail out was signed into law by George W. Bush.
But I do agree that this health care reform bill is shady. If we wanted real reform, it would be NOT FOR PROFIT insurance. It would be a single payer government program where we all pay into... and all benefit from without the middle man (insurance company) in the middle with their excessive profit and administrative costs.
This bill is corporate welfare at its worst.
I dont trust either party. Both simply represent the corporations. The American citizen has no representation.
The health insurance industry spent 1.4 million dollars PER DAY on lobbying against reform. That is the kind of access corporations have. We the people do not have this access. There are two Americas.
The odd thing is... that 1.4 million per day... comes from our insurance payments. ITS OUR MONEY... and Instead of it being used to care for the sick... its being used to maintain the disgusting practices of the insurance industry... which now includes, spending 1.4 million a day while trying to enslave Americans for profit based on their sickness and desperation.
The real insurance crisis was that the insurance industry wants more profit but cant see how to get it without raising rates even higher. Now rates cant go any higher or else this country will die. My current plan is $1,150 a month. America is already dying so how could they raise profit again?
Simple... lobby the government to force every American into private insurance plans.
I'm not sure Single Payer was ever an option, or that the option was even ever an option.
I have no trust in our government. If we were real American's we would have rid them from our country by now...
I tend to agree with this, but I am in favor of a Single Payer Not for Profit system.
The reason I agree with what you said is... that this bill will force everyone to buy private insurance from one of the major companies.
Thats a strange way to reform an industry... ie: send everyone to the enemy for massive profits.
They want to tax soda here in NY... and now they want to tax Pizza...
Whats next? They will start taxing anything they do not want you to participate in. Which may be America as a whole.
Freedom is dead, especially when you're being taxed and not represented. In this case... we're being taxed and by law we're now going to be forced into making a deal with the devil (the insurance industry). We elected the democrats to contain and control the insurance industry... not feed us to them.
Its more fascism. This isnt a government run health care program, its a mandate that buy private insurance from the insurance industry.
Thats not quite communism.
And Single Payer, Universal health care wouldnt be communism either, anymore than the military would be. Not that this bill is Single Payer. The democrats failed to bring real health care reform. What we are left with is a corporate welfare bill, that the democrats will praise like the republicans praised no child left behind and the patriot act. This not to say I support the republicans in anyway. More so that the democrats are just as lame and bought out by the corporations we ask them to regulate.
For some reason SOME people are ok with spending all of our money on military defense, but when it comes to spending it on health defense... certain people cry communism.
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It could happen!
Did you miss the point? They did it BEFORE GPS and Digital Cameras! :) Decades ago.
Yes now you can do this thanks to the GPS satellites that NASA put in orbit and the Cameras Canon sells for cheap.
When someone builds a space station that stays in orbit out of a Pringles can and duct tape.. I'll be impressed.
Until then.. NASA gets my support, not my criticism :)
The Mars Rovers were incredible!
We have a Japanese asturant taking pictures every day from the Space Station, and twittering them :)
This guy certainly did something impressive but really he's 49 years too late.
I've read a handful of comments around the web by people who say things like "How come nasa has to spend all of that money, why didnt they think of this"
Its amazing how people dont realize that Nasa has been doing this for decades... You know back before GPS existed... which would have never have existed if it werent for Nasa and the DOD. :P People are bizarre.
Its about time we solve the cancer puzzle.
Time for new competition.
http://www.betanews.com/article/One-more-iPhone-app-rejected-for-duplicate-functionality/1222125984
I'm just repeating what Apple has said in the past when developers released products that duplicate Apple's own software.
And besides.. I dont hate apple. I love my iPhone, AND iTunes... but when iTunes stealthy installs Safari behind my back when I never installed it myself... Yeah I start to see the evils that Apple is.
I just want to see Apple being treated as bad as Microsoft is... because Its what keeps Microsoft from innovating and it would be nice to see Apple play in that world.
Apple people will defend the very same behaviors they endlessly trash Microsoft for...
And you linux zealots are all guilty as well :)
I'm just pointing out where its unfair for Apple to do many things that Microsoft would get RAPED IN COURTS FOR DOING.... and EVERYONE of you would complain to no end if MS did the same thing...
and you have been complaining for years.
Rightfully so I might add... but what makes Apple immune to your criticism?
Oh thats right... No one picks on the pretty chick because you all hope that you'll fuck her.
"Apple has made that rule clear, and it's their platform (and they don't have a monopoly) so it's not really evil."
Ok... So Microsoft can do the same right? Windows is their platform. They can dicate which browsers can be on it. For example. Microsoft has decided no more browsers are allowed because they duplicate Internet Explorer's functionality?
Sounds fair right?
Apple will say that it duplicates existing iPhone functions and will refuse to accept it.
But lets all keep saying Microsoft is evil.
This is one of those Press releases that "news" outlets pick up on.
No one will do this. They just want attention. Fuck em and their prostitutes.
AWESOME.
The US postal service is outsourced?
You mean burn the country down? :) I'm all for it, when the revolution comes.
But how does it reduce rates?
If the bill became law, would my rate of $1,150 a month go down, for example to $450 a month?
Or would it still be $1,150 a month?
I understand the concept of more people paying in, will lower costs... but what is in this bill that specifically will lower the price burden that every American that pays for private insurance deals with? Such as myself... who pays $1,150 a month. If this bill passes, how will it help me pay that bill? I understand the subsidies may help, especially if i can no longer afford it (which is becoming a reality by the second i must say).
Again.. I've not been able to find an answer to this question. Will my monthly bill decrease from $1,150 a month? My biggest fear is that now that we'll be locked into private insurance, they could simply raise the rates. I know theres cost control measures in the bill but... The insurance industry could raise the rates TODAY... or 4 more times this year if they wanted...
That was my point :) Fox News is not objective. They will not eat their own. They only promote their own at all costs.. and that cost is the well being of our country.
Fox News is a terrorist organization.
It is funny how if you're uninsured, you can get a significant discount by the doctor. But if you have insurance, they charge the insurance companies quite a bit.
This is all about profit and no one wants to lose a dime of it. Sadly this nonsense costs people their lives, and their homes.
A universal single payer system would be not for profit...
And thats the reason it was never really on the table.
This country is run by the corporations. The health insurance industry spent 1.4 million dollars a day to lobby our government in its favor.
As American citizens, we do not have 1.4 million a day for access to our representatives. We're not even heard.
All we can do is Vote...
We need to take the money out of politics.
I think your $1250 a month number with regards to a universal health care gov run program is incorrect. If we applied such a program to everyone, that $1250 would be much lower. More people paying in, should bring the cost, as the ratio of sick to health should allow quite a bit of savings to everyone.
The more people in the pool, the lower the rates. Am I wrong on that? If your estimate of $1250 for 2.8m military personal is correct... by adding many millions more in a universal plan for all... rates should be far cheaper than $1250 a month per person.
The single payer system would simply just pay out. There wouldnt be a giant database of health records etc.
Actually the Wallstreet bail out was signed into law by George W. Bush.
But I do agree that this health care reform bill is shady. If we wanted real reform, it would be NOT FOR PROFIT insurance. It would be a single payer government program where we all pay into... and all benefit from without the middle man (insurance company) in the middle with their excessive profit and administrative costs.
This bill is corporate welfare at its worst.
I dont trust either party. Both simply represent the corporations. The American citizen has no representation.
The health insurance industry spent 1.4 million dollars PER DAY on lobbying against reform. That is the kind of access corporations have. We the people do not have this access. There are two Americas.
The odd thing is... that 1.4 million per day... comes from our insurance payments. ITS OUR MONEY... and Instead of it being used to care for the sick... its being used to maintain the disgusting practices of the insurance industry... which now includes, spending 1.4 million a day while trying to enslave Americans for profit based on their sickness and desperation.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/07/05/AR2009070502770.html
It sure does look like corporate welfare. It does not look like the option we voted for.
It certainly is not single payer, not for profit insurance... which is what we really need as a country.
I tend to think this was all a show.
The real insurance crisis was that the insurance industry wants more profit but cant see how to get it without raising rates even higher. Now rates cant go any higher or else this country will die. My current plan is $1,150 a month. America is already dying so how could they raise profit again?
Simple... lobby the government to force every American into private insurance plans.
I'm not sure Single Payer was ever an option, or that the option was even ever an option.
I have no trust in our government. If we were real American's we would have rid them from our country by now...
I tend to agree with this, but I am in favor of a Single Payer Not for Profit system.
The reason I agree with what you said is... that this bill will force everyone to buy private insurance from one of the major companies.
Thats a strange way to reform an industry... ie: send everyone to the enemy for massive profits.
They want to tax soda here in NY... and now they want to tax Pizza...
Whats next? They will start taxing anything they do not want you to participate in. Which may be America as a whole.
Freedom is dead, especially when you're being taxed and not represented. In this case... we're being taxed and by law we're now going to be forced into making a deal with the devil (the insurance industry). We elected the democrats to contain and control the insurance industry... not feed us to them.
This isnt communism. Read the bill.
Its more fascism. This isnt a government run health care program, its a mandate that buy private insurance from the insurance industry.
Thats not quite communism.
And Single Payer, Universal health care wouldnt be communism either, anymore than the military would be. Not that this bill is Single Payer. The democrats failed to bring real health care reform. What we are left with is a corporate welfare bill, that the democrats will praise like the republicans praised no child left behind and the patriot act. This not to say I support the republicans in anyway. More so that the democrats are just as lame and bought out by the corporations we ask them to regulate.
For some reason SOME people are ok with spending all of our money on military defense, but when it comes to spending it on health defense... certain people cry communism.
It's our tax dollars. I think we're entitled to demand how they're being used... and if they're being used... our tax dollars should benefit us.