they are benifiting society by rejecting for profit expoitionary capitalism
it's a liberatory dirrect action agianst people tring to dominate.
free culture!
be careful the concept of deserve is crutial to the system of domination and violence
and our making moral judgement it seems too:(
i'm gunna have to put you on my foe list , cog.
ortunately anthropologist Ruth Benedict has done a lot of research in this area. A good place to start is an article in ?Psychology Today,? June 1970, entitled ?Synergy?Patterns of the Good Culture?. She has written many books on the subject since the 1920s. She?s found them all over the world. When she started out she wasn?t sure she would find any. The tribe I have had some contact with is Orang Asilie tribe in Malaysia. I?ll never forget what my translator was saying before we got started. He was going over how he was going to translate. He pointed out his language has no verb to be, like [you are] good, bad, wrong, right. You can?t classified people if you take away the verb to be. How are you going to insult people? You take away ninety percent of my vocabulary! So I say what are you going to say if I say ?You?re selfish??
He responded, ?It?s going to be hard. I?d translate it like this: Marshall says he sees you are taking care of your needs but not the needs of others.? He says, ?In my language, you tell people what they are doing and what you like them to do differently, it would not occur to us to tell people what they are.? He then paused and he looked at me in all sincerity and said, ?Why would you ever call a person a name??
I said you have to know who to punish. Punishment is a totally foreign concept in these tribes and cultures. He looked at me and said, ?If you have a plant and it isn?t growing the way you would like, do you punish it?? The whole idea of punishment is so ingrained in us that it is hard for us to imagine other options. It is totally foreign to people who haven?t been educated in domination systems culture. In many of these cultures they look at people who hurt others this way: they are not bad, they?ve just forgotten their nature. They put them in a circle and they remind them of their true nature, what it?s like to be real human beings. They?ve gotten alienated and they bring them back to life.
Orang Asilie tribe in Malaysia is the culture in malaysia i would most enjoy emulating.
"The Orang Asilie. This is interesting. It?s not their name, it?s the name the surrounding cultures call them and it means ?primitive people?.
People usually ask what were you doing there teaching them Giraffe language when they have their own Giraffe language? It?s sad; they were doing quite well. They live in the forest where trees have great economic value in the outside world, so now logging companies are intruding on their space. They don?t know how to speak Giraffe with Jackal speaking people. They have one senator who represents 60,000 people. In Malaysia, they heard about my work and asked me if I could do something. He says ?You know there are consultants who will show us how to use guns, there?s no shortage of these, to get our land back.? The senator hoped there is another way.
So back to anger. I hope you?re beginning to see that anger is not the issue. The issue for me is the thinking. Walter Wink points out very poignantly, domination systems require that violence be made enjoyable."
quote taken from... http://www.cnvc.org/anger.htm
yes concrete production causes 1/3 of green house gas i understand
earthen materials are more ideal for a real sustainable home lime adobe clay bamboo pumice hemp.
whats important is that this is part of a liberatory revoltion in energy and we all share the discovery its about who puts it into use and brags about it most.;)
i agree and i have good news for you
you can make hydrogen with algea by stressing it
so all you need is water plant and sun and as well there are living machines (plants) that can clean water you could in effect make a whole water cycle system with just glass and some plants no electronics needed.
once we reach paridy we are set.
oh ya and a 2nd newly discovered method is to grow corn or other celulose and make ethonal from it and put it thru this new catylist that a mit prof. invented. to get H it's said to get 50% of the suns energy far more than any solar panel at 17%. especialy with the advancments in ethanol production you get more than 1:1 out of this.
there is also a few hydrogen houses in arizona made by the american solar hydrgen association
in fact i have writen a paper on this exact system several years ago and upload in on differnt p2ps
there is a great video of 2 cards with a rupture in the fuel tank in the same place. and one Hydrogen one Gasoline the hydrogen is gone in seconds and escapes straight up into the air while the gas drops and causes the whole car to burn
and the hydrogen car has nothing more than 1 sq inch spot that was 120 degree F for a few seconds.
doh, differnt post.
either way ist's still applicable. but not the cencor part;)
and i would like to think the reason y they took it down is because of all the good collective organizing done one the nullnet and zer0share darknet that got turned into autonomous action in many online communitys that deal with waste and news articles.
it seems my post was cencored out!? so i am posting it again.
WASTE is real strong in being the first in several areas: purep2p, anarchistic (WASTE is the most anarchist p2p because it implements security culture, free association and mutual aid. This is thanks to it's Decentralization, Encryption and preferences/features) , passive to passive transfers (via [sic] unique routing), & in being 'illegal' open source , I think more Open Source projects should reclaim proprietary ideas that were developed/discovered in places like public schools and return the knowledge to the public so we can be more self-sustainable and sharing. shutting down lifeless entities control over our intellect.
Padlock is not compatible I've tried. it's also got allot of disabled features. it's like a whitewash. my hope is that the sourceforge open source WASTE team http://sf.net/projects/waste/ kicks into action to make a mockery of this via project much like has been done to neomodus dc over dc++ , but this is a reverse hijacked fork protocall type thing. not that i think it even matters much. i value having a network name/ID and full control of options that are in WASTE and not in Padlock. there interface is kinda weak,with huge buttons and striping? i guess just watch and see if they add the rest of wastes advanced features or make a more restricted program from the most anarchistic p2p i love and call WASTE.
oh ya and did you all notice that Padlock is removed from the VIA site now?
WASTE is real strong in being the first in several areas: purep2p, anarchistic (WASTE is the most anarchist p2p because it implements security culture, free association and mutual aid. This is thanks to it's Decentralization, Encryption and preferences/features) , passive to passive transfers (via [sic] unique routing), & in being 'illegal' open source I think more Open Source projects should reclaim proprietary ideas that were developed/discovered in places like public schools and return the knowledge to the public so we can be more self-sustainable and sharing. shutting down lifeless entities control over our intellect.
padlock is not compatible I've tried.
it's also got allot of disabled features. it's like a whitewash. my hope is that the sourceforge open source WASTE team http://sf.net/projects/waste/ kicks into action to make a mockery of this via project much like has been done to neomodus dc over dc++ , but this is a reverse hijacked fork protocall type thing.
not that i think it even matters much. i value having a network name/ID and full control of options that are in WASTE and not in Padlock.
there interface is kinda weak,with huge buttons and striping?
i guess just watch and see if they add the rest of wastes advanced features or make a more restricted program from the most anarchistic p2p i love and call WASTE.
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they are benifiting society by rejecting for profit expoitionary capitalism it's a liberatory dirrect action agianst people tring to dominate. free culture!
be careful the concept of deserve is crutial to the system of domination and violence and our making moral judgement it seems too :(
i'm gunna have to put you on my foe list , cog.
ortunately anthropologist Ruth Benedict has done a lot of research in this area. A good place to start is an article in ?Psychology Today,? June 1970, entitled ?Synergy?Patterns of the Good Culture?. She has written many books on the subject since the 1920s. She?s found them all over the world. When she started out she wasn?t sure she would find any. The tribe I have had some contact with is Orang Asilie tribe in Malaysia. I?ll never forget what my translator was saying before we got started. He was going over how he was going to translate. He pointed out his language has no verb to be, like [you are] good, bad, wrong, right. You can?t classified people if you take away the verb to be. How are you going to insult people? You take away ninety percent of my vocabulary! So I say what are you going to say if I say ?You?re selfish?? He responded, ?It?s going to be hard. I?d translate it like this: Marshall says he sees you are taking care of your needs but not the needs of others.? He says, ?In my language, you tell people what they are doing and what you like them to do differently, it would not occur to us to tell people what they are.? He then paused and he looked at me in all sincerity and said, ?Why would you ever call a person a name?? I said you have to know who to punish. Punishment is a totally foreign concept in these tribes and cultures. He looked at me and said, ?If you have a plant and it isn?t growing the way you would like, do you punish it?? The whole idea of punishment is so ingrained in us that it is hard for us to imagine other options. It is totally foreign to people who haven?t been educated in domination systems culture. In many of these cultures they look at people who hurt others this way: they are not bad, they?ve just forgotten their nature. They put them in a circle and they remind them of their true nature, what it?s like to be real human beings. They?ve gotten alienated and they bring them back to life.
Orang Asilie tribe in Malaysia is the culture in malaysia i would most enjoy emulating. "The Orang Asilie. This is interesting. It?s not their name, it?s the name the surrounding cultures call them and it means ?primitive people?. People usually ask what were you doing there teaching them Giraffe language when they have their own Giraffe language? It?s sad; they were doing quite well. They live in the forest where trees have great economic value in the outside world, so now logging companies are intruding on their space. They don?t know how to speak Giraffe with Jackal speaking people. They have one senator who represents 60,000 people. In Malaysia, they heard about my work and asked me if I could do something. He says ?You know there are consultants who will show us how to use guns, there?s no shortage of these, to get our land back.? The senator hoped there is another way. So back to anger. I hope you?re beginning to see that anger is not the issue. The issue for me is the thinking. Walter Wink points out very poignantly, domination systems require that violence be made enjoyable." quote taken from... http://www.cnvc.org/anger.htm
yes concrete production causes 1/3 of green house gas i understand earthen materials are more ideal for a real sustainable home lime adobe clay bamboo pumice hemp.
whats important is that this is part of a liberatory revoltion in energy and we all share the discovery its about who puts it into use and brags about it most. ;)
3 use wave power. or that other one that pulls cooler water up to make power by temp dif.
i agree and i have good news for you you can make hydrogen with algea by stressing it so all you need is water plant and sun and as well there are living machines (plants) that can clean water you could in effect make a whole water cycle system with just glass and some plants no electronics needed. once we reach paridy we are set. oh ya and a 2nd newly discovered method is to grow corn or other celulose and make ethonal from it and put it thru this new catylist that a mit prof. invented. to get H it's said to get 50% of the suns energy far more than any solar panel at 17%. especialy with the advancments in ethanol production you get more than 1:1 out of this.
there is also a few hydrogen houses in arizona made by the american solar hydrgen association in fact i have writen a paper on this exact system several years ago and upload in on differnt p2ps
it's quite easy the eletrolosis , reverse fuel cell is able to great it's own presure in the H O2 splitting process up to 10,000 psi i understand.
there is a great video of 2 cards with a rupture in the fuel tank in the same place. and one Hydrogen one Gasoline the hydrogen is gone in seconds and escapes straight up into the air while the gas drops and causes the whole car to burn and the hydrogen car has nothing more than 1 sq inch spot that was 120 degree F for a few seconds.
doh, differnt post. either way ist's still applicable. but not the cencor part ;)
and i would like to think the reason y they took it down is because of all the good collective organizing done one the nullnet and zer0share darknet that got turned into autonomous action in many online communitys that deal with waste and news articles.
well i want it to be. not sure of the info has a will of its own
see over at sourceforge in the forum waste v2 protocall should be out soon
it seems my post was cencored out!? so i am posting it again. WASTE is real strong in being the first in several areas: purep2p, anarchistic (WASTE is the most anarchist p2p because it implements security culture, free association and mutual aid. This is thanks to it's Decentralization, Encryption and preferences/features) , passive to passive transfers (via [sic] unique routing), & in being 'illegal' open source , I think more Open Source projects should reclaim proprietary ideas that were developed/discovered in places like public schools and return the knowledge to the public so we can be more self-sustainable and sharing. shutting down lifeless entities control over our intellect. Padlock is not compatible I've tried. it's also got allot of disabled features. it's like a whitewash. my hope is that the sourceforge open source WASTE team http://sf.net/projects/waste/ kicks into action to make a mockery of this via project much like has been done to neomodus dc over dc++ , but this is a reverse hijacked fork protocall type thing. not that i think it even matters much. i value having a network name/ID and full control of options that are in WASTE and not in Padlock. there interface is kinda weak ,with huge buttons and striping? i guess just watch and see if they add the rest of wastes advanced features or make a more restricted program from the most anarchistic p2p i love and call WASTE.
oh ya and did you all notice that Padlock is removed from the VIA site now?
WASTE is real strong in being the first in several areas: purep2p, anarchistic (WASTE is the most anarchist p2p because it implements security culture, free association and mutual aid. This is thanks to it's Decentralization, Encryption and preferences/features) , passive to passive transfers (via [sic] unique routing), & in being 'illegal' open source I think more Open Source projects should reclaim proprietary ideas that were developed/discovered in places like public schools and return the knowledge to the public so we can be more self-sustainable and sharing. shutting down lifeless entities control over our intellect. padlock is not compatible I've tried. it's also got allot of disabled features. it's like a whitewash. my hope is that the sourceforge open source WASTE team http://sf.net/projects/waste/ kicks into action to make a mockery of this via project much like has been done to neomodus dc over dc++ , but this is a reverse hijacked fork protocall type thing. not that i think it even matters much. i value having a network name/ID and full control of options that are in WASTE and not in Padlock. there interface is kinda weak ,with huge buttons and striping?
i guess just watch and see if they add the rest of wastes advanced features or make a more restricted program from the most anarchistic p2p i love and call WASTE.
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