But go ahead and try to remove all traces of any Google connections from Android and get it working similarly. It's very difficult to get a lot of replacements working, or working well.
Also, from the first link, Schmidt said it was possible to not use Google search. He didn't say it was possible to not use Google services while running Android.
"I have the standard Android Contacts app, but without Google it does not sync to my Google contacts. I plan to remove my contacts from Google and write a small app that provides ContactsProvider2 via XMPP in an effort to decentralize and federate contact syncing."
Ok, so I have to write an app to get contact syncing?
"Android Police: Do you like developing for iPhone or Android better, and why? Max Howell: iPhone honestly. The development tools for Android are raw and relatively unloved which can lead to frustration. Debug cycles on Android take half a minute at least. On iPhone you can be testing new code in seconds. And it takes less effort to make beautiful software on iPhone, and ultimately all that matters is: is my software gorgeous? Does it feel *amazing* to use? Because if it doesn't your app will not take off. We had to work harder to make our app look great and feel great on Android. It's worth it though, and ultimately is achievable. Google could make it easier, currently the UI tools in the API feel like the wrong level of abstraction. Partly this is because the iOS SDK is more mature. But I'm not 100% convinced Google has the right people working on the SDK and API in order to catch up."
I'm not sure why you think Developers are different than Revenue Seekers. Most people are in it for the money. Yes, there are some that aren't. They're the exception.
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So no phones then? And google controls the certification to not work with google?
That is what monopoly abuse looks like.
So, no phones then? And google holds the key to working without google services?
That's what monopoly abuse looks like.
So having a free product to compete against isn't a financial disincentive?
Pretty clear you don't know what monopoly abuse is.
PS my sig was a joke. That used to lead to a porn site, per a previous Slashdot article.
Not me, the comment.
But go ahead and try to remove all traces of any Google connections from Android and get it working similarly. It's very difficult to get a lot of replacements working, or working well.
Yeah, it hasn't been shown to be easy, at all. It's hard, and you lose a lot of functionality. That's what monopoly abuse looks like.
It wasn't technically impossible to sell linux on Dell computers. But Microsoft made it difficult to do anyway. That's the idea of monopoly abuse.
Except that Google is selling Android as open. Apple is selling it as Apple hardware with Apple services.
And no, it's not "quite easy". It's actually quite difficult, and you lose a ton of functionality.
That's what monopoly abuse looks like.
So, it's possible to do so, but you can't actually do that right now. I wonder why.
That's what monopoly abuse looks like.
Got any syncing services that run on Android and don't use Google services?
Great syncing solution.
Also, from the first link, Schmidt said it was possible to not use Google search. He didn't say it was possible to not use Google services while running Android.
For really shitty definitions of working.
From the second link:
"I have the standard Android Contacts app, but without Google it does not sync to my Google contacts. I plan to remove my contacts from Google and write a small app that provides ContactsProvider2 via XMPP in an effort to decentralize and federate contact syncing."
Ok, so I have to write an app to get contact syncing?
Brilliant.
The current sample set is 8. Not 1.
You want to revise everything based on 2 data points? Out of billions/trillions/way-too-many-for-2-points-to-matter?
Yikes.
It's in Kelvin, it can't be that hot!
A popdown list of possibilities...in voice control?
Some?
I read the end of the first sentence as high-wanking officials...
Yet Samsung's own lawyers couldn't tell them apart. In real life.
Or how about Google changes their motto to reflect their reality.
http://www.google.com/about/corporate/company/tenthings.html
Seriously? Did you ever go visit there? The answers are pretty obvious to those who live at or even near altitude.
1. It's cold much longer, so they cover up.
2. When it's warm, sunburn occurs very easily, so they cover up.
And here's a more recent one from the TweetDeck developers http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/11/14/developer-interview-series-tweetdeck-for-androids-max-howell/
"Android Police: Do you like developing for iPhone or Android better, and why?
Max Howell: iPhone honestly. The development tools for Android are raw and relatively unloved which can lead to frustration. Debug cycles on Android take half a minute at least. On iPhone you can be testing new code in seconds. And it takes less effort to make beautiful software on iPhone, and ultimately all that matters is: is my software gorgeous? Does it feel *amazing* to use? Because if it doesn't your app will not take off.
We had to work harder to make our app look great and feel great on Android. It's worth it though, and ultimately is achievable. Google could make it easier, currently the UI tools in the API feel like the wrong level of abstraction.
Partly this is because the iOS SDK is more mature. But I'm not 100% convinced Google has the right people working on the SDK and API in order to catch up."
Just more anecdotes.
I'm about the same. Fanboys get worked up over minor differences that they make into major differences.
I'm not sure why you think Developers are different than Revenue Seekers. Most people are in it for the money. Yes, there are some that aren't. They're the exception.