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Kim Jong-Il Was an "Internet Expert"

pigrabbitbear writes "The late Kim Jong Il made many bizarre claims and bestowed upon himself many extravagant titles during his iron-clad rule over North Korea. But here's one that's particularly interesting in light of the recent SOPA debate – 'Internet expert.' The DPRK's Dear Leader fancied himself as such during an international summit in 2007. Seven years prior, he had asked U.S. Secretary of State Madeline Albright for her email address, indicating that the North Korean internet black hole was perhaps not as thoroughly opaque as we made it out to be — at least not for those at the top."

238 comments

  1. Sure, Al Gore may have INVENTED it by elrous0 · · Score: 5, Funny

    But Glorious Leader was the first to truly MASTER it.

    And, unlike Gore, Glorious Leader at least put his money where his mouth was on global warming. At the time of his death his country used less electricity than any other Asian country and he had decreased its carbon footprint significantly by reducing its population by over a million people in just 15 years. And no polluting Western factories spewing carbon dioxide into the air or wasteful beef production in Glorious Leader's country. Suck on THAT, China and Western imperialists!

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    1. Re:Sure, Al Gore may have INVENTED it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      Modded DOUBLEPLUS GOOD

    2. Re:Sure, Al Gore may have INVENTED it by elsurexiste · · Score: 4, Interesting

      And, unlike Gore, Glorious Leader at least put his money where his mouth was on global warming.

      But not so much as the Democratic Republic of the Congo, world leader in renewable energy.

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    3. Re:Sure, Al Gore may have INVENTED it by Kagato · · Score: 4, Funny

      The real measure of a Korean Internet Master is their abilities with Star Craft!

    4. Re:Sure, Al Gore may have INVENTED it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Re:Sure, Al Gore may have CREATED it

      FTFY

    5. Re:Sure, Al Gore may have INVENTED it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      I was once raped in Starcraft by a Korean with the nick of DLeader. He spewed things like "North Korea is BEST Korea" and "I NUKE YOUR BASE IN AMERICA! kekekeke" constantly.

      I wonder....

    6. Re:Sure, Al Gore may have INVENTED it by kurt555gs · · Score: 3, Funny

      ROR!

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    7. Re:Sure, Al Gore may have INVENTED it by iluvcapra · · Score: 3, Informative

      This would be funnier if Al Gore had actually claimed that he invented the Internet, and the whole story hadn't been invented to make him look silly.

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    8. Re:Sure, Al Gore may have INVENTED it by CnlPepper · · Score: 0

      +1 funny

    9. Re:Sure, Al Gore may have INVENTED it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This joke would be funnier if you hadn't missed part of it.

    10. Re:Sure, Al Gore may have INVENTED it by geekoid · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Oh don't bother. For some reason /. hates Al Gore. One of the most technically literate people in office. Actaully facts will ahv eno bearing on that.

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    11. Re:Sure, Al Gore may have INVENTED it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Dude, we all fucking know this. Just like we know that when Chuck Norris does pushups, he does actually push himself up and not push the world down. The veracity of the statement is not the focus of the humor.

    12. Re:Sure, Al Gore may have INVENTED it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      BEER,,wasteful? you must be muslim

    13. Re:Sure, Al Gore may have INVENTED it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dude, we all fucking know this. Just like we know that when Chuck Norris does pushups, he does actually push himself up and not push the world down...

      Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

    14. Re:Sure, Al Gore may have INVENTED it by jones_supa · · Score: 1

      I guess the same applies for the "640kB should be enough for anyone" quote today too, when talking about RAM.

    15. Re:Sure, Al Gore may have INVENTED it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Uh. Al Gore ain't in office.

    16. Re:Sure, Al Gore may have INVENTED it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh please.

      Slashdot doesn't really hate Al Gore any more than it really pours hot grits down the pants of a petrified Natalie Portman.

    17. Re:Sure, Al Gore may have INVENTED it by sanzibar · · Score: 1

      Invented my ass. His words: "During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet."

      As scopes points out:
      Clearly, although Gore's phrasing might have been a bit clumsy (and perhaps self-serving)...

      stating that it was invented is a long stretch.

    18. Re:Sure, Al Gore may have INVENTED it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Al does a good job of making himself look silly.

    19. Re:Sure, Al Gore may have INVENTED it by Tony+Isaac · · Score: 1

      Nobody really believes Al Gore claimed to "invent" the Internet, not even those who joke about it. It's called sarcasm. The point of the sarcasm is to poke fun at the notion that Gore thought he deserved credit for having any significant role in the creation of the internet.

      The snopes.com article seems a little less objective than their typical fare.

    20. Re:Sure, Al Gore may have INVENTED it by theshowmecanuck · · Score: 1

      But did he say, "All your base are belong to us"?

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    21. Re:Sure, Al Gore may have INVENTED it by iluvcapra · · Score: 1

      As long as people present the quote as an un-argued premise, I will cite the snopes, regardless of context. The bullshit over that citation just pisses me off, without regard for the politics. It's really more of a lazy press thing than anything else.

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    22. Re:Sure, Al Gore may have INVENTED it by binarylarry · · Score: 3, Funny

      If it was, it was an impostor.

      Everyone knows the real Lil' Kim would have said "Arr your base are berong to us!"

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    23. Re:Sure, Al Gore may have INVENTED it by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 1

      HERETIC! There's a roundhouse kick coming for you ANY MINUTE NOW...

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    24. Re:Sure, Al Gore may have INVENTED it by iluvcapra · · Score: 4, Informative

      Newt Gingrich:

      In all fairness, it’s something Gore had worked on a long time. Gore is not the Father of the Internet, but in all fairness, Gore is the person who, in the Congress, most systematically worked to make sure that we got to an Internet, and the truth is—and I worked with him starting in 1978 when I got [to Congress], we were both part of a “futures group”—the fact is, in the Clinton administration, the world we had talked about in the ’80s began to actually happen.

      Vint Cerf:

      Al Gore was the first political leader to recognize the importance of the Internet and to promote and support its development.

      Al Gore's original statement was factual. Somebody at the RNC made a separate statement that was a lie, attributed it to Gore and then attacked him for it. The first link clearly illustrates how it was misquoted once by the RNC in a press release the following week, and then the misquote was reproduced as a quote, because the only people being quoted were the people who were complaining. It was all a game to troll the press and to spend so much time complaining about an imaginary quote that it would take all the time away from talking about the real one.

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    25. Re:Sure, Al Gore may have INVENTED it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nah, this is still pretty funny. Especially the way Algore disciples get their panties in a twist about it. (Seriously, is "I took the initiative in creating the Internet" that much less ridiculous?)

    26. Re:Sure, Al Gore may have INVENTED it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh look, it's Conservative Mad Libs!

      _____ (Obama, Clinton, Pelosi, Gore) is the Dem version of _____ (Dear Leader, Hitler, The Antichrist, Reptoid Leader) and is full of _____ (fail, evil, aborted baby blood, mcnuggets)

    27. Re:Sure, Al Gore may have INVENTED it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      why do you say that?

      It [640K] was ten times what we had before. But to my surprise, we ran out of that address base for applications within — oh five or six years people were complaining.

      I have to say in 1981 making those decisions I felt like I was providing enough freedom for ten years, that is the move from 64k to 640k felt like something that would last a great deal of time.

    28. Re:Sure, Al Gore may have INVENTED it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ironically, it is true that Al Gore DID "invent the Internet". As chairman of the Senate Telecommunications subcommittee, Gore lobbied tirelessly, pulled every string, and cashed every favor to get DARPANET connected to public schools, public libraries and... telco subscribers. He did not invent the technology. He gave it to the general public, and created the social and political entity that we now call The Internet.

    29. Re:Sure, Al Gore may have INVENTED it by Shifty0x88 · · Score: 1
      HAHAHAHA,

      Oh boy.... I'm going to hell

    30. Re:Sure, Al Gore may have INVENTED it by reboot246 · · Score: 1

      Al Gore doesn't need any help to look silly.

    31. Re:Sure, Al Gore may have INVENTED it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > The veracity of the statement is not the focus of the humor.

      yeah, let's get back to the joke's original intent of character assassination

    32. Re:Sure, Al Gore may have INVENTED it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Factual, right. Well, considering that Mr Gore was hanging out in his dorm room with Tommy Lee Jones on a student deferment the year the ARPANET came on line... I'm not sure how factual it is to say he took the initiative in creating the, ahem, internet. His statement bothers people because he had nothing to do with it and it taking credit for it. I don't remember being confused and thinking that he was pretending to be a computer scientist, I remember thinking, what in the hell did you have to do with any of this? Sure, he was a geek, like the rest of us I guess. Sure he sat on some committees and sponsored some bills (in the 90s maybe) that gave money to people doing things with computers. Saying that he took the initiative in creating the internet is just stupid. Who created the internet? Everybody. From licklidder to cerf to the unix boys and everybody who defied ATT when they hooked up a modem to their network to connect to a BBS. People wanted to communicate with their computers and arpanet and tcp were not the only ways to do it or the only packet switched networks. I was there I know. Gore really should have just kept his mouth shut. Maybe said something like "I supported the internet in the 1980s." That would have been fine. And nobody would remember it, either. Because... nobody cares if some random congress dude "supported" something. Get it? Captcha: accident.

    33. Re:Sure, Al Gore may have INVENTED it by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      Dude, we all fucking know this. Just like we know that when Chuck Norris does pushups, he does actually push himself up and not push the world down. The veracity of the statement is not the focus of the humor.

      No, most of the time the meme comes up, the poster seems to be genuinely anti-Gore, whereas the Chuck Norris ones are self evidently just humour.

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    34. Re:Sure, Al Gore may have INVENTED it by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      Fuck off, the internet that existed before Al Gore was limited to a few colleges and a handful of geeks. He was important in expanding the internet to the rest of society.

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    35. Re:Sure, Al Gore may have INVENTED it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow!

    36. Re:Sure, Al Gore may have INVENTED it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He was important in expanding the internet to the rest of society.

      I call bullshit on that statement. First off, the reason the "internet" at the time was limited to a few was mainly due to the computing resources behind it. Unix was in its infancy and most shop's ran large VMS systems. The expansion to the rest of society was driven more by need. I know vms coders that contributed a whole fuck load more to the "internet" long before Al Gore was even on the scene.

      But since you brought it up, please do expound. What did he do exactly that you think is such an important contribution? Playing politics does not count in my book. If money is your claim you can fuck off there too. Most of the original work was done by volunteers crafting code and .edu's with no special funding. In fact, very few were funded for any dedicated r&d.

      If you think the internet would not exist without Al Gore - You are a foolish ideologue. Learn some real history. Talk to someone who lived then and most certainly you can take your politics and shove it right up your ass.

    37. Re:Sure, Al Gore may have INVENTED it by LordVader717 · · Score: 1

      Here on slashdot we all understand that Chuck Norris does push the world down. It all depends on the physical reference frame.

    38. Re:Sure, Al Gore may have INVENTED it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Glorious Leader made life easier in THE POWERFUL AND PROSPEROUS Nation by implementing population control. No other leaders in the world is better than the Glorious Leader. All Hail Glorious Leader. May Glrorious Leader Rest in Peace!

    39. Re:Sure, Al Gore may have INVENTED it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You've been conned by the propaganda of professional lobbyists, the people who run those blogs consider you a useful idiot for spreading their manure, the rest of us consider you a brainwashed idiot.

  2. I'm An Internet Expert! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...yeah....that's the ticket! An Internet Expert!

  3. Pr0n expert? by RagManX · · Score: 5, Funny

    Surfing porn all day does not make one an internet expert.

    1. Re:Pr0n expert? by gl4ss · · Score: 5, Insightful

      in NK it does.

      why? if you're the only dude around using internet, then you're the internet expert. simple as that. it's always about contrast.

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    2. Re:Pr0n expert? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Why would he need the internet for that? He already had a Joy Brigade.

    3. Re:Pr0n expert? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hehe. "Joy Division".

    4. Re:Pr0n expert? by gadget+junkie · · Score: 2

      Surfing porn all day does not make one an internet expert.

      Hush. I put it on my resume and my employer bought it.

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    5. Re:Pr0n expert? by Charliemopps · · Score: 1

      I'd argue that point.

    6. Re:Pr0n expert? by sidthegeek · · Score: 1

      Heh, that reminds me of a funny Family Guy clip.

    7. Re:Pr0n expert? by HerculesMO · · Score: 1

      Like the plump chick standing next to a bunch of real fatties?

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    8. Re:Pr0n expert? by rvw · · Score: 1

      Surfing porn all day does not make one an internet expert.

      Hush. I put it on my resume and my employer bought it.

      He bought your resumé? At what price? If you can sell that, you're in the wrong business.

    9. Re:Pr0n expert? by DriedClexler · · Score: 1

      In te rand of the brind, te one eye man is keen.

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    10. Re:Pr0n expert? by Surt · · Score: 1

      Seems like he's rather successful in the resume selling business, can't see why he'd want to get into a different one.

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    11. Re:Pr0n expert? by NatasRevol · · Score: 5, Funny

      I read the end of the first sentence as high-wanking officials...

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    12. Re:Pr0n expert? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It certainly is educational when you have to clean your PC of all the spyware and malware

    13. Re:Pr0n expert? by SpaghettiPattern · · Score: 2

      I read the end of the first sentence as high-wanking officials...

      How 'd you think the NK people would pronounce it?

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    14. Re:Pr0n expert? by RulerOf · · Score: 2

      He bought your resumé? At what price? If you can sell that, you're in the wrong business.

      It's got PERFECT DRM on it. He can sell a different copy to everyone!

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    15. Re:Pr0n expert? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, he wanked amongst the highest in Pyongyang!

    16. Re:Pr0n expert? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Looking at photos of him walking around with other party members makes me think that it's like a sadean novel going on at the nation scale.

    17. Re:Pr0n expert? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I doubt he'd have to surf porn when it could order it all done right in front of him (and take part too if he so desired) or those not submitting will end up in labor camps along with their family and extend family.

  4. Well duh! by Attila+Dimedici · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Anybody who thought that North Korea's draconian rules applied to those at the top (especially to the one at the very pinnacle) does not understand how totalitarian systems work, or what their purpose is.

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    1. Re:Well duh! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That. And there's a lot of IT outsourcing in North Korea. This may sound weird to Americans since they are prohibited from conducting such business with North Korea, but for European and Asian firms it's not uncommon.

    2. Re:Well duh! by mr1911 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Anybody who thought that North Korea's draconian rules applied to those at the top (especially to the one at the very pinnacle) does not understand how totalitarian systems work, or what their purpose is.

      Oh they will. Governments of formerly free countries are working feverishly to ensure a totalitarian system will be thrust upon us all very soon.

      Don't worry. It is 1) for the children, or 2) to keep you safe from terrorists.

      And all the sheep slept well.

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    3. Re:Well duh! by Psicopatico · · Score: 2

      You have missed one step:

      3) it will create jobs.

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    4. Re:Well duh! by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Anybody who thought that North Korea's draconian rules applied to those at the top (especially to the one at the very pinnacle) does not understand how governments work, or what their purpose is.

      Don't act like it's any different here. The difference is probably magnitude, but else...

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    5. Re:Well duh! by Opportunist · · Score: 3

      What people who fall for the "they create jobs" meme fail to see is that they don't need a job, they need money. The job is just the means to the end, not the end itself.

      In other words, it's certainly no problem creating jobs. Not at all.

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    6. Re:Well duh! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What people who fall for the "they need money" meme fail to see is that they don't need money, they need goods and services. The money is just the means to the end, not the end itself.

      (American) society could provide for the needs of every currently jobless person, but from a utilitarian standpoint it wouldn't create any good - it would just spread the same goods and services around. (In fact, the total amount would decrease.) Creating productive jobs actually creates more goods and services to go around. Thus, economic development has to create real jobs, and only fall back to make-work jobs or handing out money if the former is impractical.

    7. Re:Well duh! by operagost · · Score: 1

      They're the same people who believe that the housing, goods, and health care available to those who visit Cuba are the same as those available to Cuban citizens: Hollywood celebrities.

      Oh, and Slashdot moderators.

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    8. Re:Well duh! by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Ok, your point.

      And yes, creating productive jobs is EXACTLY what would cure the economy problem. Near instantly. Problem is, every productive job has been shipped overseas.

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  5. Look at the picture... by drobety · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The way Kim Jong-Il is holding the mouse in the accompanying picture, there is no denying of his internet expertise.

    1. Re:Look at the picture... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Clearly he's testing the dpi of the laser mouse with his eyes, either that or he's wondering where the ball is.

    2. Re:Look at the picture... by ctrl-alt-canc · · Score: 1

      ...just like for these political leaders there is no denying of their leadership expertise!

    3. Re:Look at the picture... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Exactly. His knowledge was years ahead of its time, roughly on par with that of a skilled engineer from the 23th century.

    4. Re:Look at the picture... by Jason+Levine · · Score: 3, Funny

      Actually, if you lived under his regime, there was no denying his Internet expertise. In fact, you couldn't deny anything good about him... or else!

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    5. Re:Look at the picture... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He is clearly talking to the computer through the mouse. Strong proof that he is also a Star Trek expert.

    6. Re:Look at the picture... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Scotty talked to the mouse, yet he knew much more than everyone!

  6. Of course... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    ... The Dear Leader personally educated RMS on the ethics of software licenses (and lisp dialects, but that's another matter). he also brought DMR and Thompson up to speed to enable them to create C. Joy sat at his feet to learn how to make Oak. Intel regularly used him to vet chip designs. Hell, he taught marketing and product positioning to Jobs.

    Truly, the world has lost its way...

  7. Awesome picture by JohnnyBGod · · Score: 5, Interesting

    That looks like another fine picture for http://kimjongillookingatthings.tumblr.com/.

    1. Re:Awesome picture by Surt · · Score: 4, Funny

      Seems telling that the only one he appears to be smiling at is the picture of him looking at sausages.

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    2. Re:Awesome picture by jones_supa · · Score: 2

      He also maintains a wide grin in the picture looking at fresh produce. Come to think of it, these pictures of Jong Il looking at things are a sympathetic side of him, seeing the man being interested about what's happening around the country and inspecting the quality of products.

    3. Re:Awesome picture by mobby_6kl · · Score: 1

      This is actually how we know that he's an Internet expert (well, besides being the Dear Leader) -- he's been providing on-the-spot guidance to the internet noobs for a while now:
      http://kimjongillookingatthings.tumblr.com/post/14177194906/looking-at-a-computer-room
      http://kimjongillookingatthings.tumblr.com/post/9001585800/looking-at-a-computer-monitor
      http://kimjongillookingatthings.tumblr.com/post/3906687832/looking-at-a-computer-mouse

      Also, the Boston Globe have a few more unrelated to internet photos of him looking at things, in higher resolution:
      http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2010/03/on_the_spot_with_kim_jong-il.html

    4. Re:Awesome picture by antdude · · Score: 1
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    5. Re:Awesome picture by antdude · · Score: 1
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    6. Re:Awesome picture by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's propaganda. See the prosperity Dear Leader has brought to North Korea!

  8. Trust me... by Scootin159 · · Score: 2

    "I'm an interenet expert, and I've seen what damage it can do... you don't want it"

    Possible that he just self-proclaimed himself as an "internet expert" to add credibility to his claim that DPRK doesn't need or want to be on the internet? Also would add to his magical mystique - "All praise our dear leader for being so skilled on the internet to save us from it".

    1. Re:Trust me... by MrNiceguy_KS · · Score: 5, Insightful

      This could apply to other areas of North Korean life.

      "I'm a food expert, and I've seen what damage it can do... you don't want it."

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    2. Re:Trust me... by ifrag · · Score: 1

      "I'm a food expert, and I've seen what damage it can do... you don't want it."

      Well, one of the biggest health risks in America is obesity. I guess he had to find something he could do better than us. Congrats on that I guess.

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    3. Re:Trust me... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How much do you weigh hotshot

    4. Re:Trust me... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      155 lb.

    5. Re:Trust me... by Marillion · · Score: 1

      In the Kingdom of the Blind, the man with one eye is King.

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    6. Re:Trust me... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not bad

  9. It's DEAR LEADER by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    But Glorious Leader was the first to truly MASTER it.

    And, unlike Gore, Glorious Leader at least put his money where his mouth was on global warming. At the time of his death his country used less electricity than any other Asian country and he had decreased its carbon footprint significantly by reducing its population by over a million people in just 15 years. And no polluting Western factories spewing carbon dioxide into the air or wasteful beef production in Glorious Leader's country. Suck on THAT, China and Western imperialists!

    It's "Dear Leader," not "Glorious Leader." (His daddy was "Great Leader." And so far, Junior is "Great Successor," which reveals a lot about how the state apparatus views the new kid.)

    1. Re:It's DEAR LEADER by ElectricTurtle · · Score: 1

      Sounds like a ringing endorsement from Borat.

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    2. Re:It's DEAR LEADER by elrous0 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Was Dear Leader BEFORE takeover of heaven. Now Glorious!!!

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    3. Re:It's DEAR LEADER by Fujisawa+Sensei · · Score: 1

      I think he was more deserving of the "Imperious Leader" title.

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    4. Re:It's DEAR LEADER by TheCarp · · Score: 1

      Um, I don't believe the DPRK gained a single inch of territory under his rule, much less really tried to.

      Perhaps "Thumb Sitting Leader" was more like it?

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    5. Re:It's DEAR LEADER by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Woosh

      The Imperious Leader.

    6. Re:It's DEAR LEADER by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >It's "Dear Leader," not "Glorious Leader." (His daddy was "Great Leader." And so far, Junior is "Great Successor," which reveals a lot about how the state apparatus views the new kid.)

      Obama must be wondering how it has all gone wrong. Junior has been in for only a couple of days, and always gets a "Great" slapped on his name and a country of fawning acolytes. All Obama gets is the occasional "His Holiness" in the press, and a bunch of smelly loonies living in tents to fawn over him.

    7. Re:It's DEAR LEADER by Kamiza+Ikioi · · Score: 1

      It's "Dear Leader," not "Glorious Leader." (His daddy was "Great Leader." And so far, Junior is "Great Successor," which reveals a lot about how the state apparatus views the new kid.)

      Otherwise known as "doubleplusgood".

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    8. Re:It's DEAR LEADER by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can get into heaven if you are gas rising from cremation, but the Heaven all aim for needs more than vaporware and fale testimony of the fanbois.

      KJL was Greatest Performer, and his final performance will be perfection of pretending to be dead.

    9. Re:It's DEAR LEADER by Rootkit · · Score: 1

      Don't forget the Nobel prize.

    10. Re:It's DEAR LEADER by RockDoctor · · Score: 1

      But unlike SB-C, the Koreans aren't joking.

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  10. Footage of Kim by rapidreload · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I've noticed a few things from all the news footage available of Kim Jong-Il:

    1. Kim is generally doing one of three things: pointing/gesturing at something, watch someone pointing/gesturing at something, or clapping. Never speaking, never doing something actually interesting.

    2. People in North Korea LOVE clapping for some reason. All the political footage involving Kim tends to involve a shitload of clapping. If the leader is clapping at something, everyone else is that's for sure. Maybe everyone's really happy over there?

    Either the guy has never bothered to speak on camera, or the regime was afraid he'd say something stupid.

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    1. Re:Footage of Kim by Rudie · · Score: 1

      Don't quit your day job.

    2. Re:Footage of Kim by rapidreload · · Score: 1

      Why would I? I work in a wonderful job, yet I'm leave in Europe. Did you have something to say? :)

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    3. Re:Footage of Kim by Surt · · Score: 1
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    4. Re:Footage of Kim by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You really need to look up the definition of "propaganda"....

    5. Re:Footage of Kim by sociocapitalist · · Score: 1

      I've noticed a few things from all the news footage available of Kim Jong-Il:

      1. Kim is generally doing one of three things: pointing/gesturing at something, watch someone pointing/gesturing at something, or clapping. Never speaking, never doing something actually interesting.

      2. People in North Korea LOVE clapping for some reason. All the political footage involving Kim tends to involve a shitload of clapping. If the leader is clapping at something, everyone else is that's for sure. Maybe everyone's really happy over there?

      Either the guy has never bothered to speak on camera, or the regime was afraid he'd say something stupid.

      Maybe Bush should have followed the same policy...

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    6. Re:Footage of Kim by c · · Score: 2

      > Either the guy has never bothered to speak on camera, or the regime
      > was afraid he'd say something stupid.

      He was telepathic, obviously. He didn't have to speak to communicate. Did you think he got to be an expert in 10000 areas by reading books?

      Incidentally, this nicely explains all the photos of him standing around, staring intently at a vegetable, listening patiently to its concerns and comments about the field or factory it found itself in. Dear Leader cared about all his subjects, even the most humble.

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    7. Re:Footage of Kim by cusco · · Score: 1

      He was rumored to have had several strokes the last few years, clapping may have been a safe substitute for speeches.

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    8. Re:Footage of Kim by ddd0004 · · Score: 1
    9. Re:Footage of Kim by tibit · · Score: 2

      As far as I can tell, you'd find several very similar pictures from anywhere behind the iron curtain. Probably the store was only accessible to those holding sufficient party credentials. My dad studied in former Soviet Union, and as a top-grading foreign student on a scholarship, no less, he had access to a store catering to diplomats and other dignitaries. A whole different experience it was, he says.

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    10. Re:Footage of Kim by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

      It is a way to give his minions more authority and to elevate him to near divine status.

      Because members of his party tend to speak for him they can claim almost anything like is his order and no-one can question it. It gives his government officials the power he needed to keep an iron grip on everyone. By speaking only rarely it makes getting to listen to him a special event, and he never speaks off-the-cuff so he doesn't make mistakes or contradictions like normal people.

      Brainwashing is a myth, people in North Korea know just how fucked up it is. Human psychology works against them though because no-one wants to admit the total and utter humiliation of having to lie constantly and act in a way that goes against their true feelings. The mind tries to justify some of the lies by looking for small elements of truth to them, a get-out that means the subjugation isn't absolute. If a new road is built by slave labour then at least you can say that it really was provided by the leader, even if you know the situation as a whole is abhorrent.

      Everything about Kim Jong-Il's image was managed to promote that kind of self deception.

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    11. Re:Footage of Kim by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      Don't forget there are always people standing behind him in suits jotting things down in notebooks.

    12. Re:Footage of Kim by DigiShaman · · Score: 1

      I'm pretty sure that in N Korea, if you don't clap when the Dear Leader claps, you DIE!!! That said, all together now. When you're happy and you know it clap your hands...When you're happy and you know clap your hands... Da da da da daaa....

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    13. Re:Footage of Kim by grainofsand · · Score: 1

      "... love clapping".

      Sounds like any RNC / DNC convention then.

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    14. Re:Footage of Kim by VJmes · · Score: 1

      With all the clapping you'd think North Korea was one giant Apple store.

    15. Re:Footage of Kim by Ash-Fox · · Score: 1

      I work in a wonderful job, yet I'm leave in Europe.

      Why are you leave'in Europe?

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    16. Re:Footage of Kim by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't forget there are always people standing behind him in suits jotting things down in notebooks.

      Names of people who weren't clapping?

    17. Re:Footage of Kim by Zanadou · · Score: 1

      1. Kim is generally doing one of three things: pointing/gesturing at something, watch someone pointing/gesturing at something, or clapping. Never speaking, never doing something actually interesting.

      That's because he mostly liked to look at things.

  11. Obituary by NewWorldDan · · Score: 5, Funny

    When I think back on the many great accomplishments of this man, there is no doubt that he will have the longest and greatest obituary ever written. A short exceprt:

    The only man known to have shot 18 consecuative holes-in-one during a round of golf. In 2007, Kim Jong Il led the New England Patriots to a perfect 19-0 NFL season. In addition to his sporting exploits, Il was a noted Internet expert. Known for releasing the worlds first internet worm. His fame exploded when he devised a method of breaking public key encryption. He is believed to be the sole author of the Windows Vista operating system.

    I'm in awe of this man.

    1. Re:Obituary by Mushdot · · Score: 5, Funny

      Don't forget he also took an arrow to the knee but *remained* an adventurer.

    2. Re:Obituary by bradorsomething · · Score: 2

      He was also a CCNA, you can't leave that out. That's like gold if he ever wanted to branch out into network management.

    3. Re:Obituary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I heard that Kim Jong-Il pitied Mr T.

    4. Re:Obituary by james_van · · Score: 2

      he wrote vista? that explains a lot

    5. Re:Obituary by Mashiki · · Score: 2

      You forgot the part where he shit rainbows, and powered all the cars of the world on unicorn farts.

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    6. Re:Obituary by Spazztastic · · Score: 1

      How do you get a CCNA off your porch?

      Pay for your pizza.

      *ducks*

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    7. Re:Obituary by FreakyGreenLeaky · · Score: 1

      Known for releasing the worlds first intestinal worm.

      There, fixed that for ya.

    8. Re:Obituary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, he never defecated, rainbows or otherwise.

    9. Re:Obituary by seandiggity · · Score: 1

      He is believed to be the sole author of the Windows Vista operating system.

      Well, that explains UAC.

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    10. Re:Obituary by operagost · · Score: 1

      The most interesting dictator in the world...

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    11. Re:Obituary by tompaulco · · Score: 1

      And A+ certified, and a 6-Sigma black belt, and he set the world's record for solving the Rubik's cube blindfolded with his feet

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    12. Re:Obituary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A great pity, considering the energy crisis.

    13. Re:Obituary by snoop.daub · · Score: 1

      Please get it right. He only had 10 holes-in-one. Sheesh.

    14. Re:Obituary by bkmoore · · Score: 1

      ....He is believed to be the sole author of the Windows Vista operating system.

      I'm in awe of this man.

      He probably had some help from Vladimir Putin. Vista's a complex piece of code.

    15. Re:Obituary by Landshark17 · · Score: 1

      "He is believed to be the sole author of the Windows Vista operating system."

      He'll be remembered as one of the most malevolent and self-interested sacks of human waste ever to walk the Earth. A man whose excesses knew no maximum height and who's cruelty knew no lowest depth. He was foul, despicable and disgusting... but I don't think even he was that evil.

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  12. It's completely true! by loftwyr · · Score: 1

    When I was redesigning the Amazon front-end in HTML5, Dear Leader sent me a note about using CSS3 descritors that saved me over 50000 hours of work! I'm sure that others have the same story!

    Dear Leader knew everything about Internets!

    1. Re:It's completely true! by JBMcB · · Score: 1

      Dear leader can write a function that can sort a list of any size in three iterations.
       

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    2. Re:It's completely true! by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Dear leader solved N=NP, he just never told the western world!

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    3. Re:It's completely true! by operagost · · Score: 1

      Dear leader can spell "referrer" properly in the header and yet maintain perfect compatibility.

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    4. Re:It's completely true! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, he _decided_ N != NP to give a major setback to the western world.

  13. setting the bar low for oneself by tverbeek · · Score: 1

    He's probably an "internet expert" in the same sense that my friend who "likes computers" considers himself a "computer expert" because he knows how to run Windows Update manually.

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    1. Re:setting the bar low for oneself by tompaulco · · Score: 1

      Dear Leader makes Chuck Norris nervous.

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  14. FWD: Cute Kittens!!! by jongalbreath · · Score: 1

    I'm sure he just had some hilarious emails to forward to her. Everyone has that one eccentric aunt/uncle that forwards 15 emails a day, right?

    1. Re:FWD: Cute Kittens!!! by dintech · · Score: 2

      In North Korea, only Dear old people use email.

  15. Yea I know by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    We use to chat on AIM all the time, though he was away most of the time, with status messages saying "Out...doing government repressive stuff" or "Checking up on the arsenal ;)".

    1. Re:Yea I know by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      I would have bet his away message was "Busy. Looking at things".

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  16. What was his /. nym? by vlm · · Score: 4, Funny

    What was his /. nym?

    Find someone who stopped posting around the time he croaked. I'm guessing a pretty low UID, since he was pretty old. We now know I was not him, just in case you were wondering. Unless I'm an automated poster. I suppose I could pass a Turing test to prove it, or there's always the old "there's a tortoise, lying on its back in the desert. You're not helping it. Why are you not helping it?"

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    1. Re:What was his /. nym? by vlm · · Score: 5, Funny

      What was his /. nym?

      Find someone who stopped posting around the time he croaked. I'm guessing a pretty low UID, since he was pretty old. We now know I was not him, just in case you were wondering. Unless I'm an automated poster. I suppose I could pass a Turing test to prove it, or there's always the old "there's a tortoise, lying on its back in the desert. You're not helping it. Why are you not helping it?"

      Oh I know, I haven't seen that "cmdrtaco" guy post in awhile. Are there any references to cmdrtaco having great hair and liking kimchi? That would explain a lot.

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    2. Re:What was his /. nym? by Surt · · Score: 1

      The real evidence that you're not him is that you imagine that writing a Turing competent AI to continue posting after his death is beyond the Il's skill.

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    3. Re:What was his /. nym? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "there's a tortoise, lying on its back in the desert. You're not helping it. Why are you not helping it?"

      So the tortoise lies. And I'm supposed to help the tortoise telling lies? Sorry, I'm not going to help with spreading lies, even if those lies come from a tortoise on its back in the desert. If that tortoise starts telling the truth instead, I might consider helping.

    4. Re:What was his /. nym? by H0p313ss · · Score: 1

      "there's a tortoise, lying on its back in the desert. You're not helping it. Why are you not helping it?"

      What do you mean I'm not helping it?

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    5. Re:What was his /. nym? by Nyder · · Score: 1

      ... Are there any references to cmdrtaco having great hair and liking kimchi? ....

      Kim Chi, is she hot?

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    6. Re:What was his /. nym? by operagost · · Score: 1

      No, not so hot. But we add wasabi for you if you rike.

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    7. Re:What was his /. nym? by oldmac31310 · · Score: 1

      wasabi is Japanese not Korean.

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    8. Re:What was his /. nym? by jones_supa · · Score: 1

      What was his /. nym?

      I thought it was obvious that he was this guy.

  17. Typical computer by f1vlad · · Score: 5, Informative

    This is what typical computer lab looks in North Korean school: http://tema.ru/travel/north-korea-3/_MG_0082.jpg I guess if you are the only one in the country who has a modern computer, that'll make you an internet expert :)

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    1. Re:Typical computer by gl4ss · · Score: 4, Funny

      wtf are those chinese NES-ripoffs??

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    2. Re:Typical computer by jones_supa · · Score: 1

      Typical? I've seen pics of labs with relatively recent gear, including Dell flat screens and stuff.

    3. Re:Typical computer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      are they star wars computers? wow NK has everything. they look even more advanced than the pyewta on the Nostromo. *puts off iSlavery to see if these come on the market soon*

  18. Cloning expert he is by snsh · · Score: 2

    Immortality Kim Jong Il has also found. Replacement clone he has.

  19. I wonder.... by shadowrat · · Score: 0

    I've been playing TF2 with someone named "hard2k-IL"

    haven't seen him on steam in a couple days.

  20. AMAZING! by Lumpy · · Score: 1

    He could code HTML and PHP as well as Java and JS better than anyone else.

    He wrote most of the code for Apache under several psudonyms.

    He also invented TCP/IP the western history books are all lies!

    He also was the one who put the moon in the sky and made the sun rise every morning.

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    1. Re:AMAZING! by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      And you don't say a word about him inventing the world and creating life? I mean, at least start at the beginning.

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    2. Re:AMAZING! by bkmoore · · Score: 1

      You mean all the way back to Juche 0.

    3. Re:AMAZING! by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      I can't help but think of "Jauche" every time I read that. Which is German for "pool of shit".

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    4. Re:AMAZING! by bkmoore · · Score: 1

      Kinda gives new meaning to the Tower of Juche in Pyongyang.

  21. Interested in looking this up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What's his CCIE number? I wanna look it up.

  22. its not really very difficult by peter303 · · Score: 2

    I know plenty of schoolboys who claim to be internet wizards. Yet they just know a little more than the average user, often a crucial difference in solving problems.

    The internet has so many holes that it doesnt really take much expertise to compromise it. Some of these holes are due to its open architecture. And others due to sloppy security engineering.

  23. Fat Boy Chronicles by G3ckoG33k · · Score: 1

    http://thefatboychronicles.com/

    "Inspired by a true story, The Fat Boy Chronicles reveals the emotionally painful world obese teens experience in the face of a thin-obsessed society. At age fourteen. 5'5 Jimmy weighs 187 pounds. "

    A must read for any Jong Fat dictator.

  24. Also greatest golfer who ever lived by walterbyrd · · Score: 1

    According to reports from N. Korea; Kim usually got 18 holes in the low 30s. Lord only knows what other near super-human powers he possessed.

    1. Re:Also greatest golfer who ever lived by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I hear he shot a 17 on an 18 hole course once!

    2. Re:Also greatest golfer who ever lived by dintech · · Score: 2

      I hear he shot a 17 on an 18 hole course once while dying peacefully in his sleep .

    3. Re:Also greatest golfer who ever lived by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      ...all the while fighting for the revolution 'til the end.

      I smell a new Chuck-Norris'esque Meme in the making...

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  25. Yeah, well our congress is filled with experts! by dremspider · · Score: 1

    http://motherboard.vice.com/2011/12/16/dear-congress-it-s-no-longer-ok-to-not-know-how-the-internet-works I mean, they are currently debating how they can engineer a solution to redesign DNS on the Internet! These guys are geniuses! I am proud to be able to have these people represent me!

  26. It's no win to make fun of the mentally ill by StuartHankins · · Score: 2

    I think most people have to agree that this man -- based on numerous press releases, political events, etc -- was not in full control of his mental faculties. He was not a mentally healthy man. It's unusual that someone in that state became a political leader and was accepted by his people for so long (until the very end), and perhaps if that society were not totalitarian it could not have happened.

    The pictures of North Korea are all very sad. I can't imagine living anywhere under those conditions.

    Now that he has passed, I'm not sure if I should breathe a sigh of relief or if the problems will just get worse. Sometimes a dictator holds together a group that, divided, are even worse than the dictator. What a horrible thing, but that does not make it less true.

    1. Re:It's no win to make fun of the mentally ill by vlm · · Score: 1

      Now that he has passed, I'm not sure if I should breathe a sigh of relief or if the problems will just get worse. Sometimes a dictator holds together a group that, divided, are even worse than the dictator. What a horrible thing, but that does not make it less true.

      Historically the design pattern for all oriental style absolute despotisms (That phrase is a Gibbon-ism, it applies in this case) has been for the despot to kill everyone surrounding the despot with any talent, lest the despot get knifed in the back. After the despot inevitably croaks, the surrounding inferior, unmotivated yes men are usually not quite up to the level required to keep the empire going. The only advantage the NK have, is NK is not multicultural, so tribal warfare like Iraq is unlikely. Those who don't read history are doomed to repeat it, or those who read history seem to almost be able to predict the future, at least to people who don't read history. Once in awhile a strong leader emerges from the shadow of a despot, but historically its pretty rare. Historically you sometimes get a military backed figurehead.

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    2. Re:It's no win to make fun of the mentally ill by cusco · · Score: 1

      Tito kept Yugoslavia intact and at internal peace for decades. Thoroughly nasty person, but the outcome after his death has been a thousand times worse than his rule ever was. At least North Korea is a single homogeneous entity, they should be spared THAT particular version of hell.

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    3. Re:It's no win to make fun of the mentally ill by Forbman · · Score: 1

      Historically you sometimes get a military backed figurehead.

      And Kim Jong Ill was different?

    4. Re:It's no win to make fun of the mentally ill by tibit · · Score: 1

      It always worries me when people try to pass psychology for history -- what else is so basic that they have such a poor grasp of? History repeats itself because people are people, still. There's nothing enlightening about study of history if you have prior psychology background. It's downright boring, like reading similar case reports over and over. I think that history is highly overrated. Medical education in any field will have you exposed to plenty of cases, clinical psychology and psychiatry is no different, except that you not only have a bunch of anecdotes to rely on, but also an understanding (however feeble it may be) of underlying causes. History has little to no tools to explain why people did what they did. It's horribly lacking in that fundamental department. Saying "ah, it happened like so in year X" is hardly an explanation. It's a cargo cult.

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    5. Re:It's no win to make fun of the mentally ill by tibit · · Score: 1

      Heck, I'd almost like to call history a mostly non-science, because it has no theories to explain much if anything. It only applies science to fact gathering, and that's it. Psychology, psychiatry, physiology and economics are the major providers of theory here, because ultimately history is study of human behavior.

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    6. Re:It's no win to make fun of the mentally ill by oldmac31310 · · Score: 1

      This single homogeneous entity notion seems dodgy to me. It is not a requirement for civil wars to occur that there be ethnic, religious or racial differences.

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    7. Re:It's no win to make fun of the mentally ill by cusco · · Score: 1

      No, not a requirement, but obvious divisions makes widespread war a lot more likely. There will probably be some bloodshed in North Korea but, unless the people are cursed with even worse luck than they've already survived, it will probably be mostly limited to the upper classes.

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    8. Re:It's no win to make fun of the mentally ill by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're either being ironic or delusional when you say that history isn't science but psychology, psychiatry, and economics are (physiology I'll grant). I'm not sure which.

    9. Re:It's no win to make fun of the mentally ill by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      History has little to no tools to explain why people did what they did.

      They have pretty much the same ones psychology has.
      Which is to say, neither one is an actual science, since we can't objectively tell what is in another mind.

    10. Re:It's no win to make fun of the mentally ill by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Tito kept Yugoslavia intact and at internal peace for decades. Thoroughly nasty person, but the outcome after his death has been a thousand times worse than his rule ever was. At least North Korea is a single homogeneous entity, they should be spared THAT particular version of hell.

      The long term result is good though. Ive been to Croatia. It's an awesome country.

  27. Compared to congress by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Yes.

    1. Re:Compared to congress by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Please, I have server lint that knows more about the internet than congress. That's not really a measuring stick.

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  28. He asked Madeline Albright for her email address? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Wow! He really was ronery.

  29. Doesnt Take Much by headhot · · Score: 2

    In North Korea it doesn't take much to be an internet expert. Simply knowing the internet exists would probably qualify you.

  30. did anyone notice... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    that he looks like Oprah taking a nap in those official death pics?

  31. So what you are say is? by Steauengeglase · · Score: 2

    He was a PHB?

  32. Compared to Ted Stephens? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah, possibly.

    Compared to Mrdoch whining about "his" news appearing in Google? Yup. Compared to Copiepresse? Definitey. compared to the USA representatives in general? Could be.

    Compared to someone who knows what the internet is? Nope.

    1. Re:Compared to Ted Stephens? by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Compared to any politician? Well, duh, he was one.

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  33. So now we know why he died by RogueyWon · · Score: 5, Funny

    In a long and varied life, Kim Jong Il made one undeniable and catastrophic mistake; he claimed to be an internet expert.

    After making this claim, his life was made a misery by a succession of late night calls from friends and family demanding his help in ridding their PCs of various pieces of malware.

    It was during one of these conversations, during which he was explaining to his elderly aunt for the thirty-seventh time why she shouldn't click the links in random e-mails claiming to be from DHL and talking her through the process of reinstalling Windows so that it would stop flashing up photos of young ladies taking their clothes off every time she tried to google for humorous cat stories, that his blood pressure finally reached critical point and his heart exploded.

    Case solved.

  34. Nintendo Entertainment System? by definate · · Score: 2

    Ahhh... do I see a Nintendo Entertainment System in the lower left hand corner in front of the screen? It sure looks like it? Do they do "science" on Duck Hunt? Is Dr. Mario their only Medical Engineering software?

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    1. Re:Nintendo Entertainment System? by f1vlad · · Score: 1

      Yeah it surely looks like that. Well maybe things aren't so bad for them. Maybe they're just programming something in BASIC loading things from cassette players.

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    2. Re:Nintendo Entertainment System? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My first thought was an NES, as well, but the device doesn't look quite right. I don't really know what they are, but could be something like a modified Tandy TRS-80, a Texas Instruments TI-99 or possibly an Atari 400.

      None of those systems have a built-in cassette or cartridge reader, but they do look like something from the late 1970's or very early 1980's.

    3. Re:Nintendo Entertainment System? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ahhh... do I see a Nintendo Entertainment System in the lower left hand corner in front of the screen? It sure looks like it? Do they do "science" on Duck Hunt? Is Dr. Mario their only Medical Engineering software?

      Now, let's talk rust-proofing. These Colecos'll rust up on ya' like that.

    4. Re:Nintendo Entertainment System? by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 1

      I recall seeing this picture before, and someone explained that this is indeed a "gaming room", which is there as a carrot for the best students.

      Of course, they don't have these kinds of things in every school, either.

  35. List of his titles by Milharis · · Score: 2

    Wikipedia has a list of some of his titles.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Kim_Jong-il's_titles

    My personal favorite : "Highest Incarnation of the Revolutionary Comradely Love".

  36. Of course by shoehornjob · · Score: 1

    He was an internet master. In a country where abject poverty is so commonplace anyone just having a computer could be considered an internet expert. And now he has truly found his place.... a hole in the ground.

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  37. In the land of the blind... by Macka · · Score: 1

    ...the one-eyed man is King.

    Or maybe that should be blindfolded.

  38. FileKorea & KorTube by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Great, let's put in a big Internet pipe, build a huge server farm, and start FileKorea.kp and KorTube.kp - I was going to do this in Afghanistan, where there is no copyright legislation, but it's better to have it in North Korea where protection from the MAFIAA's puppets is guaranteed by a couple of nukes.

  39. But will he push the button on December 24? by RoLi · · Score: 1

    The "old management" has threatened with "unexpected consequences", which in commy-speak probably means "we will nuke you".

    Nobody knows much about the new guy, so almost anything can happen.

  40. So what? by Opportunist · · Score: 1

    You act like you never had a boss that thought he reinvented the computer because he figured out how to use shortcuts instead of the mouse to get through the office menu. Why do you think this would be different, especially in the light of a man who never got any honest reply in his whole life?

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  41. Herp de... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A true Internet expert would have known better than to name his country Derp Korea. (That's what I see every timee I read DPRK, anyway.)

  42. He got his AOL account in 2007... by forkfail · · Score: 1

    .... just look up keyword "douchebag".

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  43. I am expert by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Internet is a series of noodles. It begins at my palace and ends a couple hundred feet out my front door.

    Now you understand the Internet as explained by an expert.

    Kim Jong II

  44. Looking at sausages by roman_mir · · Score: 1

    I like the picture of the dear leader looking at the sausages, with the 2 females behind him. All are smiling.

    Of-course here is another picture with more chicks and food and smiles. Maybe it's just that when there was the dear leader, chicks and food around, everybody felt like smiling. Aaaah.

    1. Re:Looking at sausages by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They're probably thinking that the sausages are a better bet for satisfaction than the Dear Leader.....

      (But boy, they do like their sausage thick there!)

  45. Re:He asked Madeline Albright for her email addres by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 2

    Someone told him she was really Lucy Liu.

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  46. Kim Jong-Il by kikito · · Score: 1

    A frequent Slashdot contributor, and very active with his Github account. He provided lots of helpful, concise answers in StackOverflow over a wide range of topics.

  47. Not quite. by denzacar · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What people who fall for the "they create jobs" meme fail to see is that they don't need a job, they need money. The job is just the means to the end, not the end itself.

    A job is much, much more than just "a way to make money".
    Being able to work for your own and your family's sustenance and improvement gives people a purpose in life, makes them proud of their own accomplishments and basically makes them MORE than mere consumers.
    Which is what just giving them money makes them into.

    Mind you, I am not speaking against government or anyone else helping out those in need or those unable to work or fully support themselves or their families through their work.
    Personally, I believe that acts like that don't just make us more civilized but also "good". Or at least better.

    Monetary help - good and often needed.
    Sustaining and fulfilling work - much better.

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    1. Re:Not quite. by mr1911 · · Score: 1

      Monetary help - good and often needed.
      Sustaining and fulfilling work - much better.

      You don't seem to have the proper 99% mentality. You must be one of those 1% assholes that expects to get ahead by doing something useful.
      /sarcasm

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  48. This picture tells a different story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://s3.amazonaws.com/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_li68pvTmPR1qewv1lo1_1280.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAJ6IHWSU3BX3X7X3Q&Expires=1324397158&Signature=lIOK7TJDZEMWFURyng92Z4kuOs4%3D

  49. Kim Jong II was a boss! by Reasonable+Facsimile · · Score: 0

    Kim Jong II: A/S/L?
    Madeline Albright: LOL WUT?!?!

  50. I can see the leak now... by TheCarp · · Score: 2

    It wont come out for a few years, but, I imagine this scene from his unauthorized autobiography....

    It was 2003, Kim was surfing online, reading articles on slashdot. The communities strong libertarian stripe had started to make inroads. He read about free speech, and beginning to be swayed. He began to think "Maybe we can scrap the nuclear program and wire up our country, give the people freedom" .... and just as he thought that....
    he saw a link to a nude picture of Natalie Portman....
    he clicked on it.... because come on, you know you did too....

    and as Goatse.cx loaded for Dear Leader, a window of opportunity for change closed.

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  51. LONG HAIL KIM JONG IL by Dainsanefh · · Score: 1

    and his country for bringing us countless MMO's such as MapleStory and Lineage, and soap opera such as Dae Jang Geum.

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  52. Now it all makes sense! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Korean Internet Master Jong-Il.

  53. Stay hungry, stay foolish by fatp · · Score: 2

    Stolen from someone else's facebook:

    Q: What were your last words to your people?
    A: Stay hungry, stay foolish.

  54. He didn't want to "upsize" anyone... by illiteratewithdrawal · · Score: 1

    Our glorious leader was of course an internet expert, and was also an anonymous contributor to the ALL of the RFCs on the internet, shaping the wave of future for our generation and generations to come. He didn't want to "upsize" anyone with his vast contributions to computer science and technology, so in his humbleness contributed only anonymously, under several different identities.

    Not only that, but our glorious leader was also a heavy contributor to the linux operating systems (and was in fact counsel to the NSA's own changes to the linux kernel, SELinux - known only to him and the NSA at the time as NKJLinux - Naenara-Kim Jong Linux).

    From the comment here.

  55. BEST Korea is SMARTEST Korea. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Starting low on the technology train will prove that efficient use of resources will teach to use more mental constructs and scalability. Other countries would jump head-first into the deep end of technology with no reason to use it. NES was in-fact a home computer system in Japan known as Famicom, and it had a keyboard and network adapter. It's an 8-bit computer, not far from America's Fairchild processors, and few remember that Tron operating system was designed for 8-bit hardware to scale upwards to virtualize with full hardware efficiency. Come on. How many people see the New Guy (doesn't know what he's doing) that buys the latest and greatest tools to enter your profession as a novice and you look at your beat-up used tools and wonder if his kind of competition will cause the government to start requiring more regulations and restrictions just because of people like him.

    King Jong Il was thrifty where needed, because someone of Expert standing said what they needed rather than the over-budget Capitalist nations who ask for more than is needed in fear they will not get the same question of funding in the future.

    1. Re:BEST Korea is SMARTEST Korea. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Someone drank the kool-aid.

  56. No shit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Stop trolling.
    Everyone knows that the Dear Leader does not defecate

  57. Expert on everything by virtualonliner · · Score: 1

    He was an expert on virtually everything in the world. He has written numerous books to prove that.

  58. God bless... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    God bless his Seoul.

  59. Technically True, but about perspective... by DarthVain · · Score: 1

    He could be regarded as an Internet expert in his own country, as no one has access to the internet. So merely having used it, makes him an expert by comparison.

  60. MOD PARENT UP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This comment has insight, for sure.

  61. Kim Jong Ill - Party Rock Anthem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I dunno, those North Korean's look like they have a great time in this vid:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJNBfBr-OGU