Professional support isn't the same as a company standing fully behind their product like Oracle. Professional support is let me ask somebody a question and they might have an answer.
You guys are kinda all over the place with your IT department. I am guessing you work for a small company with a small not very knowledgable IT department.
Your a fool if you think that postgres can replace Oracle. Most large organizations are never going to trust something without a service agreement. Plus Oracle provides application hosting options as well, and many companies would have to recode all these apps to work with a new platform if they migrate away. By the way I know Oracle Forms/Web Forms suck, but that doesn't mean they aren't used.
Or you could write your program in Java and it will work on Unix, Linux, Windows, and MAC. It will just be slow as crap if you do any client server forms.
He asked for help with Oracle, because apparently that is what his organization wants him to use. He didn't ask for OSS alternatives to Oracle. Which by the way Oracle still is far and away a better rdms than MySQL.
What were they thinking. I've seen IIS/Windows Server OS's/Oracle work fine and also seen Apache/Unix/Oracle work fine. But why would you go all windows with the OS if you didn't intend on using IIS? I've never seen any place use Apache on Windows in production. Why don't they throw in Lotus Notes and some Netware somewhere too, just for good measure.
Seriously I know of many companies still using Windows 2000 because many of there workstations won't run XP that well. Companies aren't going to buy 10,000 new highend work stations just to use a 3d graphic desktop. I expect that I won't work at a company using VISTA until atleast 2012 with these specs.
Sounds like they aren't securing it at all. Linux may be more secure than Windows, but if the district wants Windows only, use Windows. Upgrade those NT 4 servers to 2003. Secure the network. Sounds like there is still plenty that can be down with the windows architechture to make it more secure.
You think the Feds shouldn't help clean it up, we should just let parts of our country get destoyed. Have thousands of poor starve and die in the streets. Now since your a bastard who does not care about people, let me tell you something else if you leave 3 states in such a poor state it could trigger an econmic colapse for the whole country.
A file system that you get by an add-on? What good will that do, most desktops in Windows have partion set to ntfs under XP what do you do with it once you added it on. Is this really a file system or is it a indexer of files.
I use both VS 2003 and Eclipse and overall I prefer VS by far. But I will give you a flaw in VS is that if you are working on HTML/ASP/ASX it will reformat your markup even if you look at design view even if you have autoformat turned off in your options.
I don't know why people always want to get new hardware or software to improve performance. If you review your application code I bet you will find many performance problems. Make better use of caching of data, limited database connections, more efficint SQL, etc... These are all ways to improve performance and can be performed incrementally.
I've worked on many application where I was told the hardware simply won't support fast operations and then found I just changed some looping structure or poorly written sql code to increase application performance by over 500%.
To improve performance the first step is to review application code, then code that resides on the database(might not exist since this is mySQL), then look to new software and hardware.
You'd fire the CIO over a SMS package miss. Even at the cost of the mistake that would be crazy. Do you really think the CIO is planning things like SMS updates to machines. I would highly doubt that anyone who reports to him even reads security updates daily. If this is a major food processing company the cost of firing, finding, and hiring a new CIO will be quite expensive in its own.
A more resonable thing to do is to do a postmordum on the problem and fix it so it never happens again. You fire a bunch of people and the org losses everything they learned from the problem and set themseleves up for the same thing to happen again.
Your point is correct that the main cost is good people, but they aren't always available. Especially for a food processing company, they probably aren't doing cutting edge stuff. To some degree you have to develop your employees so that they improve.
While I don't believe there is a huge market for x86 Unix, your not getting the whole marketing drive. Sun now has AMD processor "cheap" server that have full driver compliance with Solaris x86. Normally on Servers you don't have to worry that much about driver support once its deployed not that many changes occur. Its a niche market, Sun still has a reputation for robust systems from hardware to OS so some shops will buy these servers for there low end system instead of Linux which still many business people see as risky.
Maybe VB 6 but not VB.NET, VB.NET is fully object oriented and a good programmers in it can move to C# or Java quickly if they need to switch lanuages for some reason.
Has it occured to anyone that you don't need a computer for every student. At the secondary level I can see it. But in elementary school they need to do more on paper, they learn some on computers but not so much they need one for every student. You don't need computers to teach reading and how to do basic math.
Block the the IP address attempting the hijack at your gateway, in fact block all IP ranges that don't need access. Limit your network in everyway possible to just what you want coming in.
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Seriously is this site about news or info you can find in books 15 years old?
If you live in Eastern PA you know as well as I do that the Philly school district is underfunded and poor childeren have little technology in the schools.
and you may decide you will need a mainframe - don't write it off too soon.
Yes lets see what companies are surplusing there old 70's area equipment so we can implement a brand new system on outdated hardware. You do realize the reason mainframes are still in use today is because the software sitting on them was so expensive to devleop that is cheaper to maintain there then to write new code on a modern platform. There is virtualy no new Mainframe development just upkeep programming. If you need something truely powerful look to Sun, Unisys, IBM , or HP to give you a 8, 16, 32, 64+ processor machine or somesort of cluster, but Mainframe no way.
If I was going to do what you are saying, I would place the SystemID and OrderNumber in different fields and combine them in application logic if that is what is needed. It will make querying data easier on the database engine.
Now your comparing apples and oranges. IS/IT is concerned with business programming which is move cocerned with RAD and they will buy up the hardware if needed to improve a poor design because speed of development is king in business. If you are writing a web front-end to an Oracle database knowing how to write a b-tree isn't going to do you alot of good, but knowing how to apply business rules will, this is what IS/IT focuses on. In Scientific programming performance becomes more important because funding is more likely to be limited and the calculations much more complex.
Insightful, how about idiotic. What can you program in Unix that you can't in Windows. In Windows you have C and C++ just like Unix. Java, Perl they are all there as well. Now the platforms may be different but largerly they are more similar than not from a progammers ability to make a program perform a required task.
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Professional support isn't the same as a company standing fully behind their product like Oracle. Professional support is let me ask somebody a question and they might have an answer.
You guys are kinda all over the place with your IT department. I am guessing you work for a small company with a small not very knowledgable IT department.
Your a fool if you think that postgres can replace Oracle. Most large organizations are never going to trust something without a service agreement. Plus Oracle provides application hosting options as well, and many companies would have to recode all these apps to work with a new platform if they migrate away. By the way I know Oracle Forms/Web Forms suck, but that doesn't mean they aren't used.
Or you could write your program in Java and it will work on Unix, Linux, Windows, and MAC. It will just be slow as crap if you do any client server forms.
He asked for help with Oracle, because apparently that is what his organization wants him to use. He didn't ask for OSS alternatives to Oracle. Which by the way Oracle still is far and away a better rdms than MySQL.
What were they thinking. I've seen IIS/Windows Server OS's/Oracle work fine and also seen Apache/Unix/Oracle work fine. But why would you go all windows with the OS if you didn't intend on using IIS? I've never seen any place use Apache on Windows in production. Why don't they throw in Lotus Notes and some Netware somewhere too, just for good measure.
Seriously I know of many companies still using Windows 2000 because many of there workstations won't run XP that well. Companies aren't going to buy 10,000 new highend work stations just to use a 3d graphic desktop. I expect that I won't work at a company using VISTA until atleast 2012 with these specs.
Sounds like they aren't securing it at all. Linux may be more secure than Windows, but if the district wants Windows only, use Windows. Upgrade those NT 4 servers to 2003. Secure the network. Sounds like there is still plenty that can be down with the windows architechture to make it more secure.
You sir are a huge idiot.
You think the Feds shouldn't help clean it up, we should just let parts of our country get destoyed. Have thousands of poor starve and die in the streets. Now since your a bastard who does not care about people, let me tell you something else if you leave 3 states in such a poor state it could trigger an econmic colapse for the whole country.
You'd be better off learning how to use the RDMS systems are actually used. Then writing some piece of crap.
A file system that you get by an add-on? What good will that do, most desktops in Windows have partion set to ntfs under XP what do you do with it once you added it on. Is this really a file system or is it a indexer of files.
I use both VS 2003 and Eclipse and overall I prefer VS by far. But I will give you a flaw in VS is that if you are working on HTML/ASP/ASX it will reformat your markup even if you look at design view even if you have autoformat turned off in your options.
Perhaps if you consider 8 Pentium 3 800 mhz super computers.
I don't know why people always want to get new hardware or software to improve performance. If you review your application code I bet you will find many performance problems. Make better use of caching of data, limited database connections, more efficint SQL, etc... These are all ways to improve performance and can be performed incrementally. I've worked on many application where I was told the hardware simply won't support fast operations and then found I just changed some looping structure or poorly written sql code to increase application performance by over 500%. To improve performance the first step is to review application code, then code that resides on the database(might not exist since this is mySQL), then look to new software and hardware.
You'd fire the CIO over a SMS package miss. Even at the cost of the mistake that would be crazy. Do you really think the CIO is planning things like SMS updates to machines. I would highly doubt that anyone who reports to him even reads security updates daily. If this is a major food processing company the cost of firing, finding, and hiring a new CIO will be quite expensive in its own. A more resonable thing to do is to do a postmordum on the problem and fix it so it never happens again. You fire a bunch of people and the org losses everything they learned from the problem and set themseleves up for the same thing to happen again. Your point is correct that the main cost is good people, but they aren't always available. Especially for a food processing company, they probably aren't doing cutting edge stuff. To some degree you have to develop your employees so that they improve.
While I don't believe there is a huge market for x86 Unix, your not getting the whole marketing drive. Sun now has AMD processor "cheap" server that have full driver compliance with Solaris x86. Normally on Servers you don't have to worry that much about driver support once its deployed not that many changes occur. Its a niche market, Sun still has a reputation for robust systems from hardware to OS so some shops will buy these servers for there low end system instead of Linux which still many business people see as risky.
Maybe VB 6 but not VB.NET, VB.NET is fully object oriented and a good programmers in it can move to C# or Java quickly if they need to switch lanuages for some reason.
Has it occured to anyone that you don't need a computer for every student. At the secondary level I can see it. But in elementary school they need to do more on paper, they learn some on computers but not so much they need one for every student. You don't need computers to teach reading and how to do basic math.
Block the the IP address attempting the hijack at your gateway, in fact block all IP ranges that don't need access. Limit your network in everyway possible to just what you want coming in.
Seriously is this site about news or info you can find in books 15 years old?
If you live in Eastern PA you know as well as I do that the Philly school district is underfunded and poor childeren have little technology in the schools.
and you may decide you will need a mainframe - don't write it off too soon.
Yes lets see what companies are surplusing there old 70's area equipment so we can implement a brand new system on outdated hardware. You do realize the reason mainframes are still in use today is because the software sitting on them was so expensive to devleop that is cheaper to maintain there then to write new code on a modern platform. There is virtualy no new Mainframe development just upkeep programming. If you need something truely powerful look to Sun, Unisys, IBM , or HP to give you a 8, 16, 32, 64+ processor machine or somesort of cluster, but Mainframe no way.
If I was going to do what you are saying, I would place the SystemID and OrderNumber in different fields and combine them in application logic if that is what is needed. It will make querying data easier on the database engine.
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Now your comparing apples and oranges. IS/IT is concerned with business programming which is move cocerned with RAD and they will buy up the hardware if needed to improve a poor design because speed of development is king in business. If you are writing a web front-end to an Oracle database knowing how to write a b-tree isn't going to do you alot of good, but knowing how to apply business rules will, this is what IS/IT focuses on. In Scientific programming performance becomes more important because funding is more likely to be limited and the calculations much more complex.
Insightful, how about idiotic. What can you program in Unix that you can't in Windows. In Windows you have C and C++ just like Unix. Java, Perl they are all there as well. Now the platforms may be different but largerly they are more similar than not from a progammers ability to make a program perform a required task.