Ok, replying to myself... He did reportedly say it during the All Things D conference last year. And certainly he should know more about Apple's finances than me, but I still find it hard to believe 150 Million would have made any difference when they had 1 Billion in the bank and more likely it's just an attempt at trying to make the come-back story of becoming more valuable than MS that much bigger.
MS invested 150 million dollars in non-voting shares, but Apple had roughly 1+ billion dollars in cash sitting in the bank at the time. How many days do you think it would have taken for them to blow through the 1 billion dollars? I don't think they were "days away from bankruptcy" and I doubt Jobs ever said that, but if you could provide a reference...
All of the System releases were free until System 8
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Mac OS 8 is a series of versions of the Mac OS that, although they introduced few remarkable new user features, supported a transition through major changes in the Apple Macintosh hardware platform. Its earliest release still supported "first generation" Macs with Motorola 680x0-family processors; its later releases ran on PowerPC G3 systems such as the early iMacs. It is most closely associated with the "second generation", "PowerPC"-labeled Macs that Apple sold in the interim. Version 8.0 was released on July 26, 1997. Improvements over System 7 include a multi-threaded Finder, the three-dimensional platinum appearance, and a number of performance related improvements to virtual memory, AppleScript execution times and system start-up times. Help was available in the form of an Info Center (by means of html pages stored on the user's hard drive, with links to the Internet), as well as previously used systems such as Balloon Help and Apple Guide.
my apologies, having read several more of your posts lower after having replied, I realize you were merely searching for the answer of what Apple considered the difference between "Full Install" and "Upgrade" discs.
So you'd rather Apple make it a pain in the ass to do a clean install by first making you clean reinstall from the disks that shipped with your Mac before then using the "upgrade" discs? Apple is being very pro-customer by not requiring you to keep track of activation codes in order to install their os or verify a previous "authorized" os during an upgrade, but instead you want to interpret that to mean you can do what the license says you can't.
It may not have had an ethernet port built-in, but in the mid 90's when I worked at the Stanford Alumni Association, I acquired a bunch of SE PDS slot ethernet cards the University sold us for cheap and had our SE's and SE/30's running Eudora and Netscape and connecting to our HP 3000 mini-frame over IP using Reflection terminal emulator.
Flight Simulators - granted flight simulators only appeal to a niche of general computer/game users, but I've been waiting forever to be able to have HMD with tracking to immerse me into a virtual cockpit with 360 view, etc. The typical rig for this using 3 or more displays just doesn't cut it for me and using a projector and a curved screen would probably get nixed by my wife because of how much space it would need and still has problems with focus and distortion. Most people can't afford (monetarily or spatially) a professional style flight simulator like the military and commercial flight industry use, but a HMD can give you most of the benefits and should eventually be affordable to an enthusiast.
Yes, they do add features in between, but the development work for each Windows version is reused by the Mac team.
I was under the impression that the last (and first) time MS used the same code base for both Mac and Windows versions of MS Word was Word 6.0. However, because of the massive outcry by the Mac users because Word 6 did not feel like a Mac application and decided to keep using Word 5.x Microsoft created the Macintosh Business Unit for developing future versions. Also, new features are often introduced in the Mac versions first, like self healing in Office 98, because the risks of pissing off a large user base are reduced, and then they later show up in the next version for Windows.
That was mostly due to the new graphics rendering (Quartz) in OS X and all the eye candy needing to run on the CPU especially on the older hardware, whereas the Quicktime graphics in OS 9 utilized the existing graphics hardware. Quartz Extreme on a computer with a graphics card that was supported helped out a lot. Secondly, OS 9 had direct access to hardware whereas OS X has a hardware abstraction layer. That's part of why so many programs like Digidesign's music recording/editing software, ProTools, took a long time to be supported under OS X.
By the time you figure out you need a gun, it's usually too late to get one. I'm not opposed to some regulation... I don't think felons or people that have been committed should possess them, but that's already the law so it's more important to use the current laws than try to create more.
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I was syncing my Palm Pilot Professional and later the IIIx with my PowerBook G3 in the mid-late 90's via the IR and you could also print to a few HP laserjets that had IR ports, but serial and later USB (even with the adapter which worked fine on the mac) were much faster and less troublesome. Apple used better quality/faster speed serial ports (230.4kpbs) than most PC's at the time before switching to USB. I completely understood why Apple dropped the IR ports.
As far as having a remote for the iMac DV, the monitor was only 15" so watching a movie anywhere but right in front didn't make much sense.
I know having a monopoly isn't illegal (you're trolling, right?). But using a pre-existing monopoly in one arena, to suppress competition in another, is.
are you trolling?
What pre-existing monopoly was Apple able to use in one arena to suppress competition in another? When the iPod and iTunes debuted it was only available for Macs. When the iTunes store was launched it was only available for Macs, was considered by the labels as a safe experiment because what damage could happen with the Mac market so small, and the iPod market share was still only about 25%. The rise in the iPod and iTunes store market shares have been because of the symbiotic relationship between the two and not because one was a leveraged monopoly to suppress the competition of the other.
Apple is primarily a hardware company and makes most of its money selling hardware like the iPod, iPhone, computers, etc. They created the iTunes store to spur more sales of hardware while forgoing any real profits from selling the music, so it would hurt Apple, and it's investors, to license their DRM. Most people believed that MS's PlaysForSure and their hardware manufacturing partners would beat Apple to a pulp, but instead Apple produced a whole product that more people apparently appreciated and Apple have been at least momentarily rewarded with a majority of the "mp3 player" and music download markets. Just because it's not how you would like it to be doesn't make it anticompetitive.
I bought my first DVD player, a 5 disc changer, when my 15 year old CD player finally died around 1998 or 1999 and also paid about $550. However, before that I had DVD playback from my laptop.
I think what made DVD take off was the competition from online retailers trying to get established in the late 90's. I was buying DVD's for around $10 or less when they were priced at $25+ dollars in the brick stores. The decline of the prices for players and more people being exposed to the increase in picture quality just accelerated the up take.
This guy decided to make a major expense purchase and didn't do proper research to see if it was adequate for his needs. I've been looking forward to a Blu-Ray player, but waiting until prices come down more and maybe profile 2.0 players to become available.
I didn't see the post that linked to the same article I did until I had hit submit so I apologize for the redundancy. However, I would argue an AR15/M4 or M1A/M14 would be better than a shotgun in the hands of a competent shooter like a policeman. The chance of a stray bullet would be minimized by their marksmanship and actually safer to nearby civilians at the range you would probably want to engage the tiger.
I used to work for the company that designed MS's boxes (at least they did between 1998 and 2000 when I worked there.) I know you are being funny, but the fact is I don't think you can even credit them for the box.
Yea, when I was there parents could legally order and serve their minor child an alcoholic drink. I found it natural to see someone order a glass of wine or a beer for a minor. Try that in the US and you'll be lucky if you're not arrested for contributing to the delinquency of a minor and lose custody of the child.
The U.S. drinking laws are a mishmash of State, County, and City regulations. As such it is actually legal in some states for parents/guardians to allow their minors to drink alchohol, some in private only and some in restaraunts. The only reason it is now law that you must be 21 to drink in every state is the Federal Govt. witheld Highway Funds to states that had a lower drinking age.
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Ok, replying to myself... He did reportedly say it during the All Things D conference last year. And certainly he should know more about Apple's finances than me, but I still find it hard to believe 150 Million would have made any difference when they had 1 Billion in the bank and more likely it's just an attempt at trying to make the come-back story of becoming more valuable than MS that much bigger.
MS invested 150 million dollars in non-voting shares, but Apple had roughly 1+ billion dollars in cash sitting in the bank at the time. How many days do you think it would have taken for them to blow through the 1 billion dollars? I don't think they were "days away from bankruptcy" and I doubt Jobs ever said that, but if you could provide a reference...
Mac OS 8 is a series of versions of the Mac OS that, although they introduced few remarkable new user features, supported a transition through major changes in the Apple Macintosh hardware platform. Its earliest release still supported "first generation" Macs with Motorola 680x0-family processors; its later releases ran on PowerPC G3 systems such as the early iMacs. It is most closely associated with the "second generation", "PowerPC"-labeled Macs that Apple sold in the interim. Version 8.0 was released on July 26, 1997. Improvements over System 7 include a multi-threaded Finder, the three-dimensional platinum appearance, and a number of performance related improvements to virtual memory, AppleScript execution times and system start-up times. Help was available in the form of an Info Center (by means of html pages stored on the user's hard drive, with links to the Internet), as well as previously used systems such as Balloon Help and Apple Guide.
my apologies, having read several more of your posts lower after having replied, I realize you were merely searching for the answer of what Apple considered the difference between "Full Install" and "Upgrade" discs.
So you'd rather Apple make it a pain in the ass to do a clean install by first making you clean reinstall from the disks that shipped with your Mac before then using the "upgrade" discs? Apple is being very pro-customer by not requiring you to keep track of activation codes in order to install their os or verify a previous "authorized" os during an upgrade, but instead you want to interpret that to mean you can do what the license says you can't.
It's not the "Fanboys" saying it's not ok for MS to do it because of MS' monopoly, it's the US Government's anti-trust laws.
It may not have had an ethernet port built-in, but in the mid 90's when I worked at the Stanford Alumni Association, I acquired a bunch of SE PDS slot ethernet cards the University sold us for cheap and had our SE's and SE/30's running Eudora and Netscape and connecting to our HP 3000 mini-frame over IP using Reflection terminal emulator.
Flight Simulators - granted flight simulators only appeal to a niche of general computer/game users, but I've been waiting forever to be able to have HMD with tracking to immerse me into a virtual cockpit with 360 view, etc. The typical rig for this using 3 or more displays just doesn't cut it for me and using a projector and a curved screen would probably get nixed by my wife because of how much space it would need and still has problems with focus and distortion. Most people can't afford (monetarily or spatially) a professional style flight simulator like the military and commercial flight industry use, but a HMD can give you most of the benefits and should eventually be affordable to an enthusiast.
Yes, they do add features in between, but the development work for each Windows version is reused by the Mac team.
I was under the impression that the last (and first) time MS used the same code base for both Mac and Windows versions of MS Word was Word 6.0. However, because of the massive outcry by the Mac users because Word 6 did not feel like a Mac application and decided to keep using Word 5.x Microsoft created the Macintosh Business Unit for developing future versions. Also, new features are often introduced in the Mac versions first, like self healing in Office 98, because the risks of pissing off a large user base are reduced, and then they later show up in the next version for Windows.
That was mostly due to the new graphics rendering (Quartz) in OS X and all the eye candy needing to run on the CPU especially on the older hardware, whereas the Quicktime graphics in OS 9 utilized the existing graphics hardware. Quartz Extreme on a computer with a graphics card that was supported helped out a lot. Secondly, OS 9 had direct access to hardware whereas OS X has a hardware abstraction layer. That's part of why so many programs like Digidesign's music recording/editing software, ProTools, took a long time to be supported under OS X.
By the time you figure out you need a gun, it's usually too late to get one. I'm not opposed to some regulation... I don't think felons or people that have been committed should possess them, but that's already the law so it's more important to use the current laws than try to create more.
I was syncing my Palm Pilot Professional and later the IIIx with my PowerBook G3 in the mid-late 90's via the IR and you could also print to a few HP laserjets that had IR ports, but serial and later USB (even with the adapter which worked fine on the mac) were much faster and less troublesome. Apple used better quality/faster speed serial ports (230.4kpbs) than most PC's at the time before switching to USB. I completely understood why Apple dropped the IR ports.
As far as having a remote for the iMac DV, the monitor was only 15" so watching a movie anywhere but right in front didn't make much sense.
I think the phrase the French use is "We are betrayed!"
are you trolling?
What pre-existing monopoly was Apple able to use in one arena to suppress competition in another? When the iPod and iTunes debuted it was only available for Macs. When the iTunes store was launched it was only available for Macs, was considered by the labels as a safe experiment because what damage could happen with the Mac market so small, and the iPod market share was still only about 25%. The rise in the iPod and iTunes store market shares have been because of the symbiotic relationship between the two and not because one was a leveraged monopoly to suppress the competition of the other.
Apple is primarily a hardware company and makes most of its money selling hardware like the iPod, iPhone, computers, etc. They created the iTunes store to spur more sales of hardware while forgoing any real profits from selling the music, so it would hurt Apple, and it's investors, to license their DRM. Most people believed that MS's PlaysForSure and their hardware manufacturing partners would beat Apple to a pulp, but instead Apple produced a whole product that more people apparently appreciated and Apple have been at least momentarily rewarded with a majority of the "mp3 player" and music download markets. Just because it's not how you would like it to be doesn't make it anticompetitive.
You're thinking the wrong dimension. The team from the article is claiming that the MW is twice as thick, not twice as long.
I bought my first DVD player, a 5 disc changer, when my 15 year old CD player finally died around 1998 or 1999 and also paid about $550. However, before that I had DVD playback from my laptop.
I think what made DVD take off was the competition from online retailers trying to get established in the late 90's. I was buying DVD's for around $10 or less when they were priced at $25+ dollars in the brick stores. The decline of the prices for players and more people being exposed to the increase in picture quality just accelerated the up take.
This guy decided to make a major expense purchase and didn't do proper research to see if it was adequate for his needs. I've been looking forward to a Blu-Ray player, but waiting until prices come down more and maybe profile 2.0 players to become available.
within a year or so I had a few columns of dead pixels without it ever being dropped or banged up.
I didn't see the post that linked to the same article I did until I had hit submit so I apologize for the redundancy. However, I would argue an AR15/M4 or M1A/M14 would be better than a shotgun in the hands of a competent shooter like a policeman. The chance of a stray bullet would be minimized by their marksmanship and actually safer to nearby civilians at the range you would probably want to engage the tiger.
You may believe they DID kill it with a shotgun, however you are mistaken. Four officers tracked down the tiger and used their .40-caliber handguns.
I used to work for the company that designed MS's boxes (at least they did between 1998 and 2000 when I worked there.) I know you are being funny, but the fact is I don't think you can even credit them for the box.
The U.S. drinking laws are a mishmash of State, County, and City regulations. As such it is actually legal in some states for parents/guardians to allow their minors to drink alchohol, some in private only and some in restaraunts. The only reason it is now law that you must be 21 to drink in every state is the Federal Govt. witheld Highway Funds to states that had a lower drinking age.