The stupid thing is Palm relying on a third party product over which they have ZERO control and they KNOW they'll be fighting against. Writing their own software would negate the need for this arms race against Apple and result in far less pissed off customers.
Simple: Apple makes iTunes scan not only for the iPod saying it's an iPod, but also for a valid serial number and other attributes. If Palm tries mucking around with serial numbers then Apple may well be able to buttfuck them with a lawsuit.
Palm is just being stupid. They have a lot more to lose from pissed off customers than Apple does. Palm, just make your own goddamned sync app like you should have in the first place. Yes, Apple is being a bunch of asses, but who didn't see that coming from a mile away, especially at Palm? If they want to use people's iTunes libraries, just make the sync app read the iTunes library XML file. Bloody simple.
1. You can use your iPod with other software.
2. With the exception of older DRM'ed tracks, you can put your music from iTunes on any device with any other software that supports said device and the proper file formats.
3. Palm is taking the lazyass way out and piggybacking on iTunes when anyone with three braincells could see this leapfrog coming a mile away. Yes, Apple is being dickish about this, but Palm damn well knew this would happen and they have a lot more to lose from pissed off customers than Apple does. The iTunes library is just an XML file. It would be trivial for Palm to make an app that reads said file and syncs without the need for iTunes to be running.
Um, maybe you already had? And if Palm would grow a few braincells then they would write their own damn software that would read the XML file in the iTunes library and sync data without needing to run iTunes and pretend it's an iPod. Current iTunes tracks are just AAC files that will play on the Pre no matter what you use to sync it.
That's pure bullshit. Someone needs to cut that out. Both the 360 CPU and the Cell are PowerPC-based chips, but that's as far as the similarities go. The 360 has a lot more in common with the PowerPC 970 (aka G5) than it does the Cell. The Cell has a basic CPU and 8 additional specialized processing units. The 360 has a triple core PowerPC variant. Not even close.
Hey, I can't sync my iPod with Windows Media Player! MICROSOFT MONOPOLY ABUSE!
Apple has no obligation whatsoever to let anyone else sync with iTunes, just like any other playlist/sync app has no obligation to let other software sync with theirs. There is nothing stopping Palm from making their own software or getting a plugin for something like WinAmp. In addition, unless you have DRM'ed iTunes music, you can pull all of that music right out and sync it with any other software that supports the Pre. Anyone who didn't see this coming a mile away is obviously not thinking very clearly.
Your argument is little more than petty Apple-bashing and holds no water. Apple isn't keeping people from using their music on the Pre. They're keeping people from using iTunes to sync with their Pre, which is very different. Like someone else said, it would be pretty simple for Palm to make an app that reads the iTunes XML file and syncs your music from there instead of within iTunes. There are a hundred different ways Palm can sync their device. Piggybacking on iTunes was one of the dumbest.
1. You can take your music from iTunes and load it up into any number of programs. If you have DRM'ed tracks, then no, but that isn't exactly a secret.
2. There will doubtlessly be other ways to sync your music with the Pre.
3. Why in the hell is Apple obligated to let other players use their software? Palm can make their own software and people can use that instead. You can still get your music onto your Pre without Apple's software. Simple.
Those crying monopoly really aren't thinking about this.
Bullshit. Unless you still have DRM-ed tracks in your iTunes library (which are not interoperable and specifically said so), you can put that music into any other app that will sync to the Palm. This isn't even close to monopoly behavior. Your music is still yours and you can use it in a wide range of programs out there. Apple is under no obligation whatsoever to let other players use their software. Let Palm come up with their own solution instead of piggybacking onto Apple's. Anyone with half a brain saw this coming the moment Palm said they could sync with iTunes.
Acetomenaphine is the only OTC painkiller that is safe for pregnant women to take AFAIK. Aspirin is a big no-no and Ibuprofen is iffy at best. It's always good to have options. You can burn a hole in your stomach with too much Ibuprofen. Should that be pulled from the market too?
Bottom line: READ THE DAMN LABEL. Make sure you're not taking too much. Check with your doctor if you're not sure. A lot of medications will screw you up if you take too much. Equip yourself with knowledge and you'll be fine.
My my, how Grant County really, really fucked that one up. They got it, but the county is barely seeing a dime thanks to the grotesque incompetence of the PUD and their fiber optic program...
Oh, I see. Now I'm a big business apologist. Sorry, but I'm just calling it the way it is. This WILL drive very large companies out of the US and there will be a net loss in taxes as a result. You know who else would do this? Oil companies. Yes, they're assholes, but do you really want to put extra tariffs on oil? The public would crucify the government if they did something to jack up the prices even further. You'd be shooting yourself in the foot as there's very little in the way of domestic competition to balance a tariff.
And do you think MS would even feel the burn? People are going to buy their products. Period. You could try to slap a really big tariff on them, but then, once again, the public would crucify you for jacking up the cost of Windows, MS Office, etc, especially businesses of all sizes. Sorry pal, but I'm not an apologist. I'm just calling it the way it is. Curb your frothing for a minute and take a look at the reality of the situation.
You can call it greed (and you're probably right), but honestly, this is going to happen with a lot of big companies and will ultimately do more harm than good. If a company has 80% of it's resources overseas and 20% in the US (as many colossal companies do), what do you think they're going to do? Pay taxes on that 80% or just move the 20% elsewhere? The US is going to LOSE more tax revenue than it's going to gain.
Apple may not need to put out a firmware update for older iPods. They may just need to refine the verification system. Perhaps iTunes will now scan your iPod's serial number and run an algorithm to make sure it's legit. Maybe it'll also check that serial with said algorithm to make sure it matches up with the capacity. Palm could probably crack that, but it would take time to do so and it only takes a few days and a lot of pissed off customers to lose a lot of face. iPod owners will be just fine. Palm is crazy to think that this will work for more than two weeks beyond the release date, and they're going to get their asses burned for promoting it as a feature that they should know will be short-lived.
I doubt it. Both of them could start firing volleys at each other, but who has more money and could keep the case tied up for a few very expensive years? Apple. They have hordes of lawyers and boatloads of cash to keep them going. Palm doesn't have nearly as much capital for that kind of job. They'd be foolish to deliberately try testing Apple's legal mettle.
Apple also had a relatively fresh product (not necessarily tech-wise, but more UI-wise) and also has a marketing machine that is absolutely unrivaled in the tech sector. Android does not. Thus far, it's response in the market outside of geekdom has been quite underwhelming. That's what the iPhone does that Android currently does not: It appeals to Joe Sixpack. Android has potential, but it's going to be a while before it can compete with other mobile OSes.
Not anymore, but back when Netscape and IE were slugging it out it sure did. MS was threatening to pull Windows out from under any OEM that bundled Netscape with a new PC.
For the most part, yes, but there are ways to use iPods with other software or even custom firmware. Apple wont sue you for it. Don't like it? There are plenty of other MP3 players out there.
locking their software to their operating system
This is the stupidest fucking argument I've seen. So Apple should port all of their software to other platforms? On that note, I want Microsoft Movie Maker for Mac, dammit!
locking their operating system to their hardware
Yes, they do. IBM had a lock of Microsoft software until they were reverse-engineered. If Apple gets big enough, this will have to change one way or another.
locking their high-end MP3 players to their hardware (firewire only)
Wow, this just dethroned the above as the stupidest fucking argument I've seen. For one, iPods have been able to sync with USB since the third gen iPods and haven't had Firewire capability at all (except to charge) since the video iPods came out. For two, PCs could use Firewire too, ya know. Apple is restricting iPods to their hardware by making it use an interface that can be found on Macs and PCs? What a crock.
locking their phone to their software which is tied to certain operating systems
Those OSes comprise at least 98% of the overall market. Yep, what a horribly monopolistic practice. Where's the iTunes port for Amiga, dammit?
Fortunately there is no way their EULA will be found legally binding and so while they can make it hard for mac-cloners (no hw support, trademarks, no license to sell os X, etc), they cant stop them.
Maybe, maybe not. As we've seen with Psystar, Apple doesn't have to win the case. They have vats of money to throw at lawyers until the other side folds up. If the EULA is going to be overturned, it's going to need someone with a lot of money that can afford a long, drawn-out court battle.
Because a Hackintosh gives you options. You can custom build your own Mac from the ground up, and if you're careful in your hardware selection, everything will work with minimal fuss. You get a tower that costs a fraction of a Mac Pro (assuming you don't need a Xeon-based workstation), you can do it yourself, and you get so many more expansion options not available in Apple's commodity line. I just replaced the wife's aging AMD rig with an Intel-based Hackie. It's working quite well. So well, in fact, that I'm going to sell my iMac to fund a badass i7 Hackie. Oh, I'll agree that building one isn't for noobies. You'd better be willing to deal with some frustration and tweaking, but in the end, it's worth it.
I don't think it's so much that the cops did or didn't go through proper channels. If the cops just called up and said, "Turn it on" and they didn't, then it's pretty clean-cut in Verizon's favor. However, they didn't say anything about privacy, warrants, etc, just that someone had to pay $20, and that is a colossal pile of idiocy.
These aren't clients. WoW Characters is on my iPhone. It's a handy app for checking the WoW Armory. I can't think of a single reason why Blizz should tell this free app to stop, nor can I think of any possible or valid legal or civil grounds to do so. Fuck Blizzard for this, the fucking assholes.
Um, bullshit. Complete bullshit. Someone worked on that so they could make some money. They don't make this stuff for free. You see, there is something wrong with making a digital copy under certain circumstances, ie, copying music from a CD to an iPod is fine, but downloading commercial software for free is not. It's not the same thing as stealing a physical item from a store as nobody loses a piece of inventory, but you're still taking something that belongs to someone else, essentially. Yeah, I pirate software from time to time, but I also purchase software when I can. Saying there's nothing wrong is idiotic. If there's nothing wrong, then we should all do it! Byebye to the vast majority of the software industry. Believe it or not, most people want to make money off of their work so they can eat. Sure, some folks make free software, and that's fine if they want to, but saying that all software should be free whether the creators like it or not only makes you look like an utter prick who is trying to justify what he's doing.
Funny, he's not suing anyone and deliberately left DRM out of the game. Oh, but to even MENTION that people pirating the game are assholes makes him a thug? No, saying that makes you a stupid asshole. Do you think it's a right to be able to pirate goods? Far be it from me to berate people for doing it (who hasn't?), but I'm not going to act like it's a right and how DARE someone say otherwise!
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The stupid thing is Palm relying on a third party product over which they have ZERO control and they KNOW they'll be fighting against. Writing their own software would negate the need for this arms race against Apple and result in far less pissed off customers.
Simple: Apple makes iTunes scan not only for the iPod saying it's an iPod, but also for a valid serial number and other attributes. If Palm tries mucking around with serial numbers then Apple may well be able to buttfuck them with a lawsuit.
Palm is just being stupid. They have a lot more to lose from pissed off customers than Apple does. Palm, just make your own goddamned sync app like you should have in the first place. Yes, Apple is being a bunch of asses, but who didn't see that coming from a mile away, especially at Palm? If they want to use people's iTunes libraries, just make the sync app read the iTunes library XML file. Bloody simple.
1. You can use your iPod with other software.
2. With the exception of older DRM'ed tracks, you can put your music from iTunes on any device with any other software that supports said device and the proper file formats.
3. Palm is taking the lazyass way out and piggybacking on iTunes when anyone with three braincells could see this leapfrog coming a mile away. Yes, Apple is being dickish about this, but Palm damn well knew this would happen and they have a lot more to lose from pissed off customers than Apple does. The iTunes library is just an XML file. It would be trivial for Palm to make an app that reads said file and syncs without the need for iTunes to be running.
Um, maybe you already had? And if Palm would grow a few braincells then they would write their own damn software that would read the XML file in the iTunes library and sync data without needing to run iTunes and pretend it's an iPod. Current iTunes tracks are just AAC files that will play on the Pre no matter what you use to sync it.
That's pure bullshit. Someone needs to cut that out. Both the 360 CPU and the Cell are PowerPC-based chips, but that's as far as the similarities go. The 360 has a lot more in common with the PowerPC 970 (aka G5) than it does the Cell. The Cell has a basic CPU and 8 additional specialized processing units. The 360 has a triple core PowerPC variant. Not even close.
Haha, that's the first thing that came to mind!
I think six is:
6. I don't have an argument at all, so I'll just call him an Apple fanboy because that's about all my limited mental capacity will allow.
Hey, I can't sync my iPod with Windows Media Player! MICROSOFT MONOPOLY ABUSE!
Apple has no obligation whatsoever to let anyone else sync with iTunes, just like any other playlist/sync app has no obligation to let other software sync with theirs. There is nothing stopping Palm from making their own software or getting a plugin for something like WinAmp. In addition, unless you have DRM'ed iTunes music, you can pull all of that music right out and sync it with any other software that supports the Pre. Anyone who didn't see this coming a mile away is obviously not thinking very clearly.
Your argument is little more than petty Apple-bashing and holds no water. Apple isn't keeping people from using their music on the Pre. They're keeping people from using iTunes to sync with their Pre, which is very different. Like someone else said, it would be pretty simple for Palm to make an app that reads the iTunes XML file and syncs your music from there instead of within iTunes. There are a hundred different ways Palm can sync their device. Piggybacking on iTunes was one of the dumbest.
Probably because:
1. You can take your music from iTunes and load it up into any number of programs. If you have DRM'ed tracks, then no, but that isn't exactly a secret.
2. There will doubtlessly be other ways to sync your music with the Pre.
3. Why in the hell is Apple obligated to let other players use their software? Palm can make their own software and people can use that instead. You can still get your music onto your Pre without Apple's software. Simple.
Those crying monopoly really aren't thinking about this.
Bullshit. Unless you still have DRM-ed tracks in your iTunes library (which are not interoperable and specifically said so), you can put that music into any other app that will sync to the Palm. This isn't even close to monopoly behavior. Your music is still yours and you can use it in a wide range of programs out there. Apple is under no obligation whatsoever to let other players use their software. Let Palm come up with their own solution instead of piggybacking onto Apple's. Anyone with half a brain saw this coming the moment Palm said they could sync with iTunes.
Acetomenaphine is the only OTC painkiller that is safe for pregnant women to take AFAIK. Aspirin is a big no-no and Ibuprofen is iffy at best. It's always good to have options. You can burn a hole in your stomach with too much Ibuprofen. Should that be pulled from the market too?
Bottom line: READ THE DAMN LABEL. Make sure you're not taking too much. Check with your doctor if you're not sure. A lot of medications will screw you up if you take too much. Equip yourself with knowledge and you'll be fine.
My my, how Grant County really, really fucked that one up. They got it, but the county is barely seeing a dime thanks to the grotesque incompetence of the PUD and their fiber optic program...
Oh, I see. Now I'm a big business apologist. Sorry, but I'm just calling it the way it is. This WILL drive very large companies out of the US and there will be a net loss in taxes as a result. You know who else would do this? Oil companies. Yes, they're assholes, but do you really want to put extra tariffs on oil? The public would crucify the government if they did something to jack up the prices even further. You'd be shooting yourself in the foot as there's very little in the way of domestic competition to balance a tariff.
And do you think MS would even feel the burn? People are going to buy their products. Period. You could try to slap a really big tariff on them, but then, once again, the public would crucify you for jacking up the cost of Windows, MS Office, etc, especially businesses of all sizes. Sorry pal, but I'm not an apologist. I'm just calling it the way it is. Curb your frothing for a minute and take a look at the reality of the situation.
You can call it greed (and you're probably right), but honestly, this is going to happen with a lot of big companies and will ultimately do more harm than good. If a company has 80% of it's resources overseas and 20% in the US (as many colossal companies do), what do you think they're going to do? Pay taxes on that 80% or just move the 20% elsewhere? The US is going to LOSE more tax revenue than it's going to gain.
Apple may not need to put out a firmware update for older iPods. They may just need to refine the verification system. Perhaps iTunes will now scan your iPod's serial number and run an algorithm to make sure it's legit. Maybe it'll also check that serial with said algorithm to make sure it matches up with the capacity. Palm could probably crack that, but it would take time to do so and it only takes a few days and a lot of pissed off customers to lose a lot of face. iPod owners will be just fine. Palm is crazy to think that this will work for more than two weeks beyond the release date, and they're going to get their asses burned for promoting it as a feature that they should know will be short-lived.
I doubt it. Both of them could start firing volleys at each other, but who has more money and could keep the case tied up for a few very expensive years? Apple. They have hordes of lawyers and boatloads of cash to keep them going. Palm doesn't have nearly as much capital for that kind of job. They'd be foolish to deliberately try testing Apple's legal mettle.
He didn't come up with that quote. He just added "patent" to it.
Apple also had a relatively fresh product (not necessarily tech-wise, but more UI-wise) and also has a marketing machine that is absolutely unrivaled in the tech sector. Android does not. Thus far, it's response in the market outside of geekdom has been quite underwhelming. That's what the iPhone does that Android currently does not: It appeals to Joe Sixpack. Android has potential, but it's going to be a while before it can compete with other mobile OSes.
Not anymore, but back when Netscape and IE were slugging it out it sure did. MS was threatening to pull Windows out from under any OEM that bundled Netscape with a new PC.
locking high-end MP3 players to their software
For the most part, yes, but there are ways to use iPods with other software or even custom firmware. Apple wont sue you for it. Don't like it? There are plenty of other MP3 players out there.
locking their software to their operating system
This is the stupidest fucking argument I've seen. So Apple should port all of their software to other platforms? On that note, I want Microsoft Movie Maker for Mac, dammit!
locking their operating system to their hardware
Yes, they do. IBM had a lock of Microsoft software until they were reverse-engineered. If Apple gets big enough, this will have to change one way or another.
locking their high-end MP3 players to their hardware (firewire only)
Wow, this just dethroned the above as the stupidest fucking argument I've seen. For one, iPods have been able to sync with USB since the third gen iPods and haven't had Firewire capability at all (except to charge) since the video iPods came out. For two, PCs could use Firewire too, ya know. Apple is restricting iPods to their hardware by making it use an interface that can be found on Macs and PCs? What a crock.
locking their phone to their software which is tied to certain operating systems
Those OSes comprise at least 98% of the overall market. Yep, what a horribly monopolistic practice. Where's the iTunes port for Amiga, dammit?
Fortunately there is no way their EULA will be found legally binding and so while they can make it hard for mac-cloners (no hw support, trademarks, no license to sell os X, etc), they cant stop them.
Maybe, maybe not. As we've seen with Psystar, Apple doesn't have to win the case. They have vats of money to throw at lawyers until the other side folds up. If the EULA is going to be overturned, it's going to need someone with a lot of money that can afford a long, drawn-out court battle.
Because a Hackintosh gives you options. You can custom build your own Mac from the ground up, and if you're careful in your hardware selection, everything will work with minimal fuss. You get a tower that costs a fraction of a Mac Pro (assuming you don't need a Xeon-based workstation), you can do it yourself, and you get so many more expansion options not available in Apple's commodity line. I just replaced the wife's aging AMD rig with an Intel-based Hackie. It's working quite well. So well, in fact, that I'm going to sell my iMac to fund a badass i7 Hackie. Oh, I'll agree that building one isn't for noobies. You'd better be willing to deal with some frustration and tweaking, but in the end, it's worth it.
I don't think it's so much that the cops did or didn't go through proper channels. If the cops just called up and said, "Turn it on" and they didn't, then it's pretty clean-cut in Verizon's favor. However, they didn't say anything about privacy, warrants, etc, just that someone had to pay $20, and that is a colossal pile of idiocy.
These aren't clients. WoW Characters is on my iPhone. It's a handy app for checking the WoW Armory. I can't think of a single reason why Blizz should tell this free app to stop, nor can I think of any possible or valid legal or civil grounds to do so. Fuck Blizzard for this, the fucking assholes.
Um, bullshit. Complete bullshit. Someone worked on that so they could make some money. They don't make this stuff for free. You see, there is something wrong with making a digital copy under certain circumstances, ie, copying music from a CD to an iPod is fine, but downloading commercial software for free is not. It's not the same thing as stealing a physical item from a store as nobody loses a piece of inventory, but you're still taking something that belongs to someone else, essentially. Yeah, I pirate software from time to time, but I also purchase software when I can. Saying there's nothing wrong is idiotic. If there's nothing wrong, then we should all do it! Byebye to the vast majority of the software industry. Believe it or not, most people want to make money off of their work so they can eat. Sure, some folks make free software, and that's fine if they want to, but saying that all software should be free whether the creators like it or not only makes you look like an utter prick who is trying to justify what he's doing.
Funny, he's not suing anyone and deliberately left DRM out of the game. Oh, but to even MENTION that people pirating the game are assholes makes him a thug? No, saying that makes you a stupid asshole. Do you think it's a right to be able to pirate goods? Far be it from me to berate people for doing it (who hasn't?), but I'm not going to act like it's a right and how DARE someone say otherwise!