Hey, this is a bit of a shameless plug for my open source project, but it's on topic to GWT. Speaking to the subject of the post, regarding the utility of GWT, I point to my API and API like it so say there is probably a larger market for GWT than this fellow is speculating, and frankly from my experience with the interface I don't see how he could reasonablely charictarize it as all-or-none (the project google generates is example of how to integrate google GWT into your current HTML using named elements and replacing them....).
Features:
Fully implemented all the major classes including the new Geocoder and
events.
Available for download on SourceForge
(http://sourceforge.net/projects/gwt/). For anyone interested in
helping help please e-mail me (developers, testers, documenters
welcome).
Not to sound xenophobic, but aren't these the countries that this community has been so affraid of w/ regard to cheap labor and outsourcing? I'm not sure I understand someone can argue that one is bad and in the same breath argue the other is good. For tech industry, in particular, does this strike anyone else as a dangerous proposition? Support all these other countries w/ cheap labor pools, ignore your own countries technical talent, which is currently diminishing... Perhaps my math is off but that doesn't seem like a balanced equation.
I'm all for improving people's way of life, but I can't help but think that ultimately there is going to be a greater expense to the US than $100 per laptop (yes, I know the cost per laptop would be born by the local goverments footing the bill and perhaps be subsidized by the UN...but the point is the ultimate cost to the US).
Honestly, no conrete idea which company they might be partnering w/ but maybe the click to call thing is a hint. Vonage currently offers a feature called Click-2-call which they have as a registered service mark. They also are the biggest VOIP provider and have a lot of infrastructure in place to support this (not that Time Warner and AOL don't... but ehh...).
The other possability I could see, which is a strech could be ebay who just recently accquired Skype, they might be a pretty good contender particuarlly as they have more of an international audience which is probably closer to Google's view of the world (again, not like AOL doesn't).
Sounds like it's about time to read Atlas Shrugged and wonder what direction our society is going and ask yourself the question "Who is John Galt."
For those of you who are not familiar, the book deals w/ the ideas of capitalism vs. socialism, and specifically the stealling of intellectual property for the "greater good" of the "state"....which basically meant for the benefit of politicians and their friends....
Can these folks really be serious? They want consumers to pay them to view these movies (I personally don't have a problem w/ that part of the idea) and then seed NBC's files on their computers wasting bandwidth and HD space all for NBC benefit for a "premium" service....yikes!
At least AOL (who admittedly I'm no fan of) has the right idea that they will be giving away the basic connent on their P2P network (at least initially) and attempting to profit soely through the adverts. I mean if I'm going to get something for free I don't necessarily mind the idea of sharing my bandwidth and storage... kind of the idea that made P2P work in the first place...
You make an excellent point. In reality we are probably pretty close to that number today, if not higher than $50 a barrel, if you consider "premium" bottled water at roughly $1 per liter.... I mean yikes that as much as I paid in Germany for a liter of petrol. So basically at $5 a gallon... hmmmmmmm. Honestly, I'm not sure how much a standard barrel contains (not a typical measurement from me, though I'm sure I could google it, but I'm lazy), but assuming it's more that 10 gallons... well yeah... just yikes...just a scary thought...even scarier is that's today's price level not 2040. Think of what that will look like in 2040 when water is more scarce and inflation is roughly 3X the current rate (at a 3% compounded annually for 35 years it's about 2.8X)...
Could the idea of taxation or control over a large economic engine be the real driving factor here? Since the internet is is responsible for tremendous amounts of opportunity and economic growth, fundamnetally growing on a daily basis, it seems more realistic to me that the UN underlying concerns here are not so much about "security" but about the implications of being in controlling a vast economic engine, giving them the power to:
1.) Tax commerce (sales, voip, you name it, will they try and take a cut?)
2.) Tax infrastrcture (from wire and fiber to domains)
3.) Control growth in ways the "deem" fit
I'm not saying these reasons are any better or worse or different than those of the US, but I think we fundamentally need to look at what could perhaps be the more realistic driving factor of all this.... control and money... and then discuss who we want in control of our economic engine.... lest we all be saying "Who is John Galt"
1.) Faster HD access (the real limiting factor in PC computing these days) 2.) More memory (e.g. Terabytes as opposed to gigabytes) 3.) Immediate start PCs (e.g. Press a button and they are on) 4.) Mulit-core chips which are readily available and cheap 5.) A printer which can print $20 dollar bills (my personal favorite).
Actually, ironically enough the problem is all of IBM's internal java based web applications (travel, expense reporting, etc...) that are not compatible w/ SP2 (why I can't tell you, that's just what they said on our intranet). So really the headline should be IBM doesn't trust SUN to run on Windows SP2 through IE (which in this crowd I think would make a bigger conspiracy headline)
Not that I particuarlly want to be flamed for this opinion, but having monoculture is not necessarily a bad thing. A monoculture means I can write a single application and know that I will be able to sell it to a wide range of customers. It means I don't have to write special instructions into my code to compile one version for windows, one version for unix, etc.. (that's assuming cross platform compatability was even possible in the first place, think GUI, network layer, etc...). Please, don't get me wrong, I'm not saying everything should be written in java, but it is nice to know that if I develop a windows application there are millions of potential customers who can run it, and potentially buy.
Like the other posters have said this is as much of an issue of poor quality control, under the guise of "security", on Microsoft's part. I think the real question here is whether or not they are responsible enough to be the ones managing such an important monoculture?
So much for the hardcore site. And to think I picked up VoteNader.US, VoteNader.INFO, and VoteNader.BIZ. It would have been kind of amusing to put a hardcore gay site on VoteNader.US, just to make the political statement that Nader is a fag...(in the context of the 2004 elections at least).
The Slashdot crowd have any bright ideas? Lampoon page, Bumper Stickers, etc...?
Slashdot Mirror
Hey, this is a bit of a shameless plug for my open source project, but it's on topic to GWT. Speaking to the subject of the post, regarding the utility of GWT, I point to my API and API like it so say there is probably a larger market for GWT than this fellow is speculating, and frankly from my experience with the interface I don't see how he could reasonablely charictarize it as all-or-none (the project google generates is example of how to integrate google GWT into your current HTML using named elements and replacing them....). Features: Fully implemented all the major classes including the new Geocoder and events. Available for download on SourceForge (http://sourceforge.net/projects/gwt/). For anyone interested in helping help please e-mail me (developers, testers, documenters welcome).
Not to sound xenophobic, but aren't these the countries that this community has been so affraid of w/ regard to cheap labor and outsourcing? I'm not sure I understand someone can argue that one is bad and in the same breath argue the other is good. For tech industry, in particular, does this strike anyone else as a dangerous proposition? Support all these other countries w/ cheap labor pools, ignore your own countries technical talent, which is currently diminishing... Perhaps my math is off but that doesn't seem like a balanced equation.
I'm all for improving people's way of life, but I can't help but think that ultimately there is going to be a greater expense to the US than $100 per laptop (yes, I know the cost per laptop would be born by the local goverments footing the bill and perhaps be subsidized by the UN...but the point is the ultimate cost to the US).
Honestly, no conrete idea which company they might be partnering w/ but maybe the click to call thing is a hint. Vonage currently offers a feature called Click-2-call which they have as a registered service mark. They also are the biggest VOIP provider and have a lot of infrastructure in place to support this (not that Time Warner and AOL don't... but ehh...).
The other possability I could see, which is a strech could be ebay who just recently accquired Skype, they might be a pretty good contender particuarlly as they have more of an international audience which is probably closer to Google's view of the world (again, not like AOL doesn't).
Just a thought.
Sounds like it's about time to read Atlas Shrugged and wonder what direction our society is going and ask yourself the question "Who is John Galt."
For those of you who are not familiar, the book deals w/ the ideas of capitalism vs. socialism, and specifically the stealling of intellectual property for the "greater good" of the "state"....which basically meant for the benefit of politicians and their friends....
Interesting read...
Can these folks really be serious? They want consumers to pay them to view these movies (I personally don't have a problem w/ that part of the idea) and then seed NBC's files on their computers wasting bandwidth and HD space all for NBC benefit for a "premium" service....yikes! At least AOL (who admittedly I'm no fan of) has the right idea that they will be giving away the basic connent on their P2P network (at least initially) and attempting to profit soely through the adverts. I mean if I'm going to get something for free I don't necessarily mind the idea of sharing my bandwidth and storage... kind of the idea that made P2P work in the first place...
You make an excellent point. In reality we are probably pretty close to that number today, if not higher than $50 a barrel, if you consider "premium" bottled water at roughly $1 per liter.... I mean yikes that as much as I paid in Germany for a liter of petrol. So basically at $5 a gallon... hmmmmmmm. Honestly, I'm not sure how much a standard barrel contains (not a typical measurement from me, though I'm sure I could google it, but I'm lazy), but assuming it's more that 10 gallons... well yeah... just yikes...just a scary thought...even scarier is that's today's price level not 2040. Think of what that will look like in 2040 when water is more scarce and inflation is roughly 3X the current rate (at a 3% compounded annually for 35 years it's about 2.8X)...
Could the idea of taxation or control over a large economic engine be the real driving factor here? Since the internet is is responsible for tremendous amounts of opportunity and economic growth, fundamnetally growing on a daily basis, it seems more realistic to me that the UN underlying concerns here are not so much about "security" but about the implications of being in controlling a vast economic engine, giving them the power to:
1.) Tax commerce (sales, voip, you name it, will they try and take a cut?)
2.) Tax infrastrcture (from wire and fiber to domains)
3.) Control growth in ways the "deem" fit
I'm not saying these reasons are any better or worse or different than those of the US, but I think we fundamentally need to look at what could perhaps be the more realistic driving factor of all this.... control and money... and then discuss who we want in control of our economic engine.... lest we all be saying "Who is John Galt"
Better yet...
1.) Faster HD access (the real limiting factor in PC computing these days)
2.) More memory (e.g. Terabytes as opposed to gigabytes)
3.) Immediate start PCs (e.g. Press a button and they are on)
4.) Mulit-core chips which are readily available and cheap
5.) A printer which can print $20 dollar bills (my personal favorite).
Actually, ironically enough the problem is all of IBM's internal java based web applications (travel, expense reporting, etc...) that are not compatible w/ SP2 (why I can't tell you, that's just what they said on our intranet). So really the headline should be IBM doesn't trust SUN to run on Windows SP2 through IE (which in this crowd I think would make a bigger conspiracy headline)
Real men use punch cards....
Can we say Yike boys and girls? Yet another exploit for spammers to take advantage of... just what we need, I only get about 1000 a day right now.
Not that I particuarlly want to be flamed for this opinion, but having monoculture is not necessarily a bad thing. A monoculture means I can write a single application and know that I will be able to sell it to a wide range of customers. It means I don't have to write special instructions into my code to compile one version for windows, one version for unix, etc.. (that's assuming cross platform compatability was even possible in the first place, think GUI, network layer, etc...).
Please, don't get me wrong, I'm not saying everything should be written in java, but it is nice to know that if I develop a windows application there are millions of potential customers who can run it, and potentially buy.
Like the other posters have said this is as much of an issue of poor quality control, under the guise of "security", on Microsoft's part. I think the real question here is whether or not they are responsible enough to be the ones managing such an important monoculture?
So much for the hardcore site. And to think I picked up VoteNader.US, VoteNader.INFO, and VoteNader.BIZ. It would have been kind of amusing to put a hardcore gay site on VoteNader.US, just to make the political statement that Nader is a fag...(in the context of the 2004 elections at least).
The Slashdot crowd have any bright ideas? Lampoon page, Bumper Stickers, etc...?
Not to be a dick, but 1024 bits == 1 byte, not 1000...