I'm always appalled when the RIAA steals money from 12 year olds to try and keep from dying. Yet now that it may be (probably not, I trust that they have a ligitamate case) happening to a company that employs many of my friends, I'm rooting for them.
It is only human, I guess. I just hope you weren't part of yesterday's bashing against SCO employees for not leaving a company with dubious business practices? That would be too ironic IMHO.
I found Ask Igor on Slashdot
some time ago and I think that is a revolutionary
debugging technique (I was going to say "as well" but after reading the advert from GuardSoft, err, the article, and some posts I am not so sure that is correct;))
Thanks for the thorough reply. I confess I'm not a big Mono fan for a number of reasons, but what you've said is 100% true. Java is being disregarded as a desktop alternative on what is perhaps the last front it had other than the server side, given that Windows developers want (and justly so) tools that allow them to e.g. write natively to the System/Application Event Log, etc., and the war on the browser is long lost to Flash.
We do agree, then, that Miguel is doing this based above all on personal preferences about the language and not necessarily based on platform capabilities or deficiencies. And it might just be the right call especially because of the multi-language thing.
(Not that your previous post meant differently, but as I said earlier I needed a bit more detail. Thanks again!)
I am a bit ignorant about Mono, but I understand.NET and Java well enough, and I'd like you to clarify something for me.
I interpret your writing as saying that Miguel et al want Mono to benefit from Visual Studio as a development tool. So they're working on that and they're working on some other stuff, like the bindings, printing support, etc.
The tools bit I can understand. VS.NET is good. I would say Eclipse, NetBeans and IDEA are at least as good though.
So we are left with the model. WinForms vs Swing or AWT or SWT. You could say WinForms is better/easier. I guess it depends a lot on the fact you have VS.NET behind it. Back to above.
As for the rest, it is not clear to me why wouldn't they be able to somehow implement this in Java.
Bottom line: I am not sure Sun should really take this as an indictment. Miguel is betting on being able to do this (with the ECMA standardisation of C# and whatnot), but I am not sure that he'll manage to keep up with Microsoft any more that he could against a non-open source Java like we have now.
What I think this gives Microsoft is an excellent opportunity to get its feet wet with a truly opensource licensed project that doesn't impact their bottom line.
It is a well known best practice to never adopt a new business process, technology or in general any dramatic change in a thorough, one fell swoop fashion. Instead, pilot projects and gradually-phased programs give you the chance to gauge the effects of your decisions while you go.
With WiX, I get under the impression MS gets to see how does it feel like to handle an open source project and maybe find a way to prepare to get revenue out of it (don't see it happening yet with WiX but they can learn for later)
Seriously, though, it's a shame that in this time and age we still have this kind of things happening. Now I am not saying this wouldn't happen in another discipline, but I guess it goes to show that IT as a discipline (especially IT management) still has much to learn and evolve.
I wonder how does the USPTO process compares to the one followed by e.g. IBM prior to filing a patent.
I think it would be interesting to compare and contrast both processes: academic qualifications of the people involved, work flow and logistics, information they have access to... This article gives us the first half, I wonder where could we get the second one or better yet as I said a comparison.
It's still the way you read it. Go is much more complex. I recall reading a very interesting article about it at Wikipedia, which touches briefly on the comparison with chess and computer Go.
I've been doing Java for nearly five years, mostly under Windows but a bit under Linux as well. With all the recent changes in the Mac world, I've been seriously thinking to break the bank and get myself a PowerBook to alternate with my Toshiba laptop (I know, chances are the Toshiba would soon end up on Ebay:))
The thing is, I'm not really too interested in doing anything else. I am perfectly happy using Eclipse to develop Java-based server side (Web) apps. I could learn Cocoa et al for curiosity, of course, but I don't feel a compelling need. I just think the fact that all my tools run under Mac OS and the OS is supposed to let you be highly productive and it's highly useable, plus maybe less virus-prone, etc., makes it very attractive over the alternatives. Anyone care to comment on this?
Alas, with the current status of software patents and the like, I fear the day they go after OO.o instead...
It took me some time to finally decide using the OO.o document formats instead of MS Office ones (in my office the "geeks" use OO.o and the rest use MS so I have to constantly export). But once I did it I'd never go back. Smaller documents, open formats; it's just better!
The problem is that it's not easy to convince users to both migrate *and* change their document formats. If (or shall I say when?) MS goes after OO.o for their "reverse engineering", adoption of OO.o will suffer a huge set back.
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Sorry dude, will have to repeat "Pragmatic JUnit Testing" more in your next post...
I think the main issue with Java is not the processor, but several other qualities that, while highly desirable for a general purpose language, are unacceptable for real-time systems (garbage collection is one of them).
This is why there's been work for a real-time version of Java for a number of years now (see here). Incidentally this is what kicked of the JCP (it's JSR-001:)), and according to my Concurrent and Realtime Programming in Java lecturer (Andy Wellings, who sits in the Technical Interpretation Committee for this JSR), NASA is quite interested in this as an option for its future missions to Mars.
As nice as it would be...
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...to have the dust wiped off the rover's solar panels, it has many disadvantages. It has been discussed widely here, even by rocket scientists. In short, it is extremely difficult to come up with a "cost-effective" (from several viewpoints) mechanism. An interesting fact is that the cost of operating the entire mission is around US$ 3m a day, and that must also be considered when determining how long these wonderful bots rover through Mars unveiling its mysteries.
I fail to see how many of the article's points relate to Java being open source or not. While we could agree that Sun hasn't been marketing Java the best it could, what's wrong with Ant/XDoclet/JUnit not being developed/sponsored by Sun? Do we really want a single provider like we have with MS? Do we need opensourcing Java if we get many of the benefits as it is, and no bickering/forks/whatnot?
As for Mono... I will not state my opinion about Mono per se, it's not the point, but let me just say that Mono is trying to catch up on a Microsoft implementation. I fail to see how that compares with opensourcing Java, or even how it is a threat.
Wonder if this could be the beginning of a successful ad campaign for Groklaw? Similar to "but I stayed on a Holiday Inn last night"... People emitting insightful opinion on law issues and finishing it off with this remark:)
Some might be photogenic. Some of those may have good stories. I just wonder how many of those will *also* want to talk about it in front of a camera. After all, as you say, they usually do it because it's fun and don't really care whether the public is familiar with it or not (and sadly some *do* care that the public is *not* familiar). But this is changing...
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One fourth brother is not blind.
I hope you've already got kids, and that they're fine. If not, I sincerely wish you they are healthy when they come. I hope you don't have any cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer or such in your family, and if you do, I hope you don't catch any of it.
Because if you do, I don't know how are you going to go through it. You'll probably suicide.
...judging from this article over at Wired News:
The anti-counterfeit software in Photoshop CS was developed by the Central Bank Counterfeit Deterrence Group, an organization established by the governors of the G-10 central banks to promote the use of anti-counterfeit devices in the computer industry.
Google's R&D used to be led by Dr Monika Henziger, who gained notorious fame because of this but also because of her many numerous achievements. However I don't know for sure if she's still in charge...
...it must not be funny for Boston area residents that listen to him every morning. People tend to develop sort of an emotional linkage with their routine, and a news anchor is definitely part of the daily routine for many. I usually listen to music instead of live radio when I commute, but I know I'd be pissed off if it were me listening.
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It is only human, I guess. I just hope you weren't part of yesterday's bashing against SCO employees for not leaving a company with dubious business practices? That would be too ironic IMHO.
Guess I must be new around here...
I found Ask Igor on Slashdot some time ago and I think that is a revolutionary debugging technique (I was going to say "as well" but after reading the advert from GuardSoft, err, the article, and some posts I am not so sure that is correct ;))
We do agree, then, that Miguel is doing this based above all on personal preferences about the language and not necessarily based on platform capabilities or deficiencies. And it might just be the right call especially because of the multi-language thing.
(Not that your previous post meant differently, but as I said earlier I needed a bit more detail. Thanks again!)
I interpret your writing as saying that Miguel et al want Mono to benefit from Visual Studio as a development tool. So they're working on that and they're working on some other stuff, like the bindings, printing support, etc.
The tools bit I can understand. VS.NET is good. I would say Eclipse, NetBeans and IDEA are at least as good though.
So we are left with the model. WinForms vs Swing or AWT or SWT. You could say WinForms is better/easier. I guess it depends a lot on the fact you have VS.NET behind it. Back to above.
As for the rest, it is not clear to me why wouldn't they be able to somehow implement this in Java.
Bottom line: I am not sure Sun should really take this as an indictment. Miguel is betting on being able to do this (with the ECMA standardisation of C# and whatnot), but I am not sure that he'll manage to keep up with Microsoft any more that he could against a non-open source Java like we have now.
Just my opinion :)
What I think this gives Microsoft is an excellent opportunity to get its feet wet with a truly opensource licensed project that doesn't impact their bottom line.
It is a well known best practice to never adopt a new business process, technology or in general any dramatic change in a thorough, one fell swoop fashion. Instead, pilot projects and gradually-phased programs give you the chance to gauge the effects of your decisions while you go.
With WiX, I get under the impression MS gets to see how does it feel like to handle an open source project and maybe find a way to prepare to get revenue out of it (don't see it happening yet with WiX but they can learn for later)
I think they misnamed the project to begin with :)
Seriously, though, it's a shame that in this time and age we still have this kind of things happening. Now I am not saying this wouldn't happen in another discipline, but I guess it goes to show that IT as a discipline (especially IT management) still has much to learn and evolve.
Whew! For a minute I thought you were switching to Nigerian for the rest of the post!
Interesting. Thank you very much, Scott!
I wonder how does the USPTO process compares to the one followed by e.g. IBM prior to filing a patent.
I think it would be interesting to compare and contrast both processes: academic qualifications of the people involved, work flow and logistics, information they have access to... This article gives us the first half, I wonder where could we get the second one or better yet as I said a comparison.
It's still the way you read it. Go is much more complex. I recall reading a very interesting article about it at Wikipedia, which touches briefly on the comparison with chess and computer Go.
I've been doing Java for nearly five years, mostly under Windows but a bit under Linux as well. With all the recent changes in the Mac world, I've been seriously thinking to break the bank and get myself a PowerBook to alternate with my Toshiba laptop (I know, chances are the Toshiba would soon end up on Ebay :))
The thing is, I'm not really too interested in doing anything else. I am perfectly happy using Eclipse to develop Java-based server side (Web) apps. I could learn Cocoa et al for curiosity, of course, but I don't feel a compelling need. I just think the fact that all my tools run under Mac OS and the OS is supposed to let you be highly productive and it's highly useable, plus maybe less virus-prone, etc., makes it very attractive over the alternatives. Anyone care to comment on this?
Alas, with the current status of software patents and the like, I fear the day they go after OO.o instead...
It took me some time to finally decide using the OO.o document formats instead of MS Office ones (in my office the "geeks" use OO.o and the rest use MS so I have to constantly export). But once I did it I'd never go back. Smaller documents, open formats; it's just better!
The problem is that it's not easy to convince users to both migrate *and* change their document formats. If (or shall I say when?) MS goes after OO.o for their "reverse engineering", adoption of OO.o will suffer a huge set back.
Here's hoping your predictions come true first!
Does anyone know if it's a debug build as well? Its commit charge seems to tend to infinity at this time :P
Searched the web for pragmatic junit testing. Results 1 - 10 of about 2,540. Search took 0.25 seconds 1. The Pragmatic Programmers, LLC Sorry dude, will have to repeat "Pragmatic JUnit Testing" more in your next post...
Sigh :( Such is the life of the geek...
I think the main issue with Java is not the processor, but several other qualities that, while highly desirable for a general purpose language, are unacceptable for real-time systems (garbage collection is one of them).
:)), and according to my Concurrent and Realtime Programming in Java lecturer (Andy Wellings, who sits in the Technical Interpretation Committee for this JSR), NASA is quite interested in this as an option for its future missions to Mars.
This is why there's been work for a real-time version of Java for a number of years now (see here). Incidentally this is what kicked of the JCP (it's JSR-001
...to have the dust wiped off the rover's solar panels, it has many disadvantages. It has been discussed widely here, even by rocket scientists. In short, it is extremely difficult to come up with a "cost-effective" (from several viewpoints) mechanism. An interesting fact is that the cost of operating the entire mission is around US$ 3m a day, and that must also be considered when determining how long these wonderful bots rover through Mars unveiling its mysteries.
I fail to see how many of the article's points relate to Java being open source or not. While we could agree that Sun hasn't been marketing Java the best it could, what's wrong with Ant/XDoclet/JUnit not being developed/sponsored by Sun? Do we really want a single provider like we have with MS? Do we need opensourcing Java if we get many of the benefits as it is, and no bickering/forks/whatnot?
As for Mono... I will not state my opinion about Mono per se, it's not the point, but let me just say that Mono is trying to catch up on a Microsoft implementation. I fail to see how that compares with opensourcing Java, or even how it is a threat.
Just my two cents...
IANAL but I do read Groklaw
:)
Wonder if this could be the beginning of a successful ad campaign for Groklaw? Similar to "but I stayed on a Holiday Inn last night"... People emitting insightful opinion on law issues and finishing it off with this remark
Hear it from yourself :)
http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/audio.pl?fedora01.wav=f edora
Some might be photogenic. Some of those may have good stories. I just wonder how many of those will *also* want to talk about it in front of a camera. After all, as you say, they usually do it because it's fun and don't really care whether the public is familiar with it or not (and sadly some *do* care that the public is *not* familiar). But this is changing...
One fourth brother is not blind.
I hope you've already got kids, and that they're fine. If not, I sincerely wish you they are healthy when they come. I hope you don't have any cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer or such in your family, and if you do, I hope you don't catch any of it.
Because if you do, I don't know how are you going to go through it. You'll probably suicide.
...judging from this article over at Wired News: The anti-counterfeit software in Photoshop CS was developed by the Central Bank Counterfeit Deterrence Group, an organization established by the governors of the G-10 central banks to promote the use of anti-counterfeit devices in the computer industry.
Google's R&D used to be led by Dr Monika Henziger, who gained notorious fame because of this but also because of her many numerous achievements. However I don't know for sure if she's still in charge...
...it must not be funny for Boston area residents that listen to him every morning. People tend to develop sort of an emotional linkage with their routine, and a news anchor is definitely part of the daily routine for many. I usually listen to music instead of live radio when I commute, but I know I'd be pissed off if it were me listening.