The advice you were given is still wise and still stands. Why bother to comment on a situation you admittedly know nothing about? Do you honestly think you've added anything of value to this discussion?
"Illegally copied material" may be the primary type of content to be found on Kazaa, but if it all vanished tomorrow, would Kazaa still serve a purpose?
Sure. You and the four other people still running it would be able to trade stuff all day long.
Trying to deny that the vast majority of Kazaa users are there solely to pirate copyrighted materials is like the Tobacco lobby whining that nicotine isn't addictive.
But how can it not be true? The poster used the word "said" instead of the word "the". Everyone knows that only lawyers use the word "said" -- he must know what he's talking about.
Heh. I had a long layover in Amsterdam last month and had hours of gleeful fun sending "boe" notes over bluetooth to all the other bluetooth phones I could see while drinking Heineken at the KLM Crown Lounge.
I've used this feature also to send quick notes to cow-orkers at the office when they were on the phone or we were busy in a meeting. It's handy and saves the absurd ten cent charge applied to an outbound SMS.
It's only a matter of time before it's rendered useless due to spam, I'm sure.
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It is redirected physical mail. I set my billing address to paytrust and they receive paper bills from companies I do business with. They scan the paper bill and present them online. If a non-bill piece of mail shows up, they let me know and foward it to me (for instance, I get both bills and an actual policy from my insurance company -- the bills show up online and the actual policy is forward to me physically)
Well, relying on the merchant still excludes all the smaller bills that you probably have to pay. My water bill is a little local company with no website, for instance. Plus the benefit to recordkeeping is tangible. The service runs about ten bucks a month, which I find reasonable.
Naturally it all depends on how many bills you get and how often you travel, I suppose.
But then you end up having to travel with a dozen logins and passwords for a dozen various merchant websites which all work and behave differently. It's much more of a pain in the ass than you'd think, especially if you find yourself on dialup sometimes.
With a bill presentment service you can pay everything from a single site using a single consistent interface and login. I've been using PayTrust for about a year now and I couldn't live without it.
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I have been using a similar service from PayTrust for about a year now. Their focus is on bills, which is really the only mail I receive that I want to ensure I handle in a timely manner. I travel quite a bit for work and find it invaluable to be able to receive and pay my bills while on the road.
When a new bill arrives, I get an email and I can view the scan of the bill online through the paytrust website. I can pay the bill automatically, if I choose, by establishing per-payee rules (always pay bill [foo] as long as it is under [y] dollars) and that sort of thing.
At the end of the year they send me a CD-ROM that contains all that year's
bills and payments for my archives, allowing me to store everything in a much
more space efficient way than I'd have with paper files.
It's a great service, although I don't know that I would find much benefit if they started handling all my mail and not just my bills. Mail I get is either bills, junk, or physical things which I wouldn't want in scanned form.
You're wrong. The BSD license allows exactly what you suggest is not possible. Taking BSD code and re-licensing it or incorporating it into code which has a more restrictive license. The only limitation on your ability to do this is that you must include the copyright notice in the source code and documentation (you're just relicensing it, not reassigning ownership).
If this were truly the case then there would be no need for you to lobby for the abolishment of copyright. Freely distributable software and music would be plentiful and superior to the alternatives.
As it stands, this is not the case, demonstrating that your premise and conclusions are flawed.
And microsoft would be free to use Linux souce code in their closed-source products (which would be protected by user contracts and hardware-based copy protection).
A copyright holder doesn't get to choose who (if anyone) will decide to violate their rights. They also don't lose their rights simply because they're larger and have more resources than an (alleged) violator.
It's fair to disagree on the scope of the damage, and we'll just have to see how that plays out in court. There's is undeniable financial harm done by a pirate and it's probably somewhere in between $0 and $150,000. It's hard to fault the RIAA for being liberal in their estimate of damages, just as one can expect the defense to argue a number at the low end of the range.
Being sued is nothing at all like suffering criminal penalties and I don't accept that your analogy to speeding and police enforcement is meaningful.
If the headline of this article read "FSF sues 261 major corporations for GPL violations" I wonder how the comments might differ.
Enforcing copyright is enforcing copyright and if you want the GPL to be enforcable then you better learn to deal with RIAA's copyrights being enforcable too.
Not being able to run OS X is the downside of an Opteron. As far as I'm concerned, Apple hardware is just an expensive hardware key required to run OS X.
Parent poster is completely correct and you are the misinformed person. Nobody here is talking about RedHat's desktop products.
For Redhat's enterprise packages, you are absolutely not allowed to do the things the parent poster describes. Cheapbyte's isn't selling RHAS. I'm contractually prohibited from giving you a copy of the one I've purchased. I can't even install my copy on two machines. If I do, RedHat has the right to audit my facility and charge me for any copies I've installed and haven't paid for, plus penalties.
For RedHat's enterprise product, you cannot use it without paying for it.
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The advice you were given is still wise and still stands. Why bother to comment on a situation you admittedly know nothing about? Do you honestly think you've added anything of value to this discussion?
You do, I trust, realize that the answer to both questions is "yes" in the case of iTMS.
Sure. You and the four other people still running it would be able to trade stuff all day long.
Trying to deny that the vast majority of Kazaa users are there solely to pirate copyrighted materials is like the Tobacco lobby whining that nicotine isn't addictive.
But how can it not be true? The poster used the word "said" instead of the word "the". Everyone knows that only lawyers use the word "said" -- he must know what he's talking about.
The PIN is used when pairing two devices. There are a variety of other options which require no such authorization to send things from phone to phone.
With my T616, I can create a note and then send that note to another phone via bluetooth whether I'm paired with that device or not.
Heh. I had a long layover in Amsterdam last month and had hours of gleeful fun sending "boe" notes over bluetooth to all the other bluetooth phones I could see while drinking Heineken at the KLM Crown Lounge.
I've used this feature also to send quick notes to cow-orkers at the office when they were on the phone or we were busy in a meeting. It's handy and saves the absurd ten cent charge applied to an outbound SMS.
It's only a matter of time before it's rendered useless due to spam, I'm sure.
make: *** No rule to make target `lawsuits'. Stop.
This must be why the geeks never seem to prevail in court.
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This couldn't be farther from the truth.
It is redirected physical mail. I set my billing address to paytrust and they receive paper bills from companies I do business with. They scan the paper bill and present them online. If a non-bill piece of mail shows up, they let me know and foward it to me (for instance, I get both bills and an actual policy from my insurance company -- the bills show up online and the actual policy is forward to me physically)
Well, relying on the merchant still excludes all the smaller bills that you probably have to pay. My water bill is a little local company with no website, for instance. Plus the benefit to recordkeeping is tangible. The service runs about ten bucks a month, which I find reasonable.
Naturally it all depends on how many bills you get and how often you travel, I suppose.
With a bill presentment service you can pay everything from a single site using a single consistent interface and login. I've been using PayTrust for about a year now and I couldn't live without it.
When a new bill arrives, I get an email and I can view the scan of the bill online through the paytrust website. I can pay the bill automatically, if I choose, by establishing per-payee rules (always pay bill [foo] as long as it is under [y] dollars) and that sort of thing.
At the end of the year they send me a CD-ROM that contains all that year's bills and payments for my archives, allowing me to store everything in a much more space efficient way than I'd have with paper files.
It's a great service, although I don't know that I would find much benefit if they started handling all my mail and not just my bills. Mail I get is either bills, junk, or physical things which I wouldn't want in scanned form.
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You're wrong. The BSD license allows exactly what you suggest is not possible. Taking BSD code and re-licensing it or incorporating it into code which has a more restrictive license. The only limitation on your ability to do this is that you must include the copyright notice in the source code and documentation (you're just relicensing it, not reassigning ownership).
This is a feature of the BSD license.
If this were truly the case then there would be no need for you to lobby for the abolishment of copyright. Freely distributable software and music would be plentiful and superior to the alternatives.
As it stands, this is not the case, demonstrating that your premise and conclusions are flawed.
And microsoft would be free to use Linux souce code in their closed-source products (which would be protected by user contracts and hardware-based copy protection).
It sure looks like they've got a case to me. Maybe you haven't been following the news closely enough.
A copyright holder doesn't get to choose who (if anyone) will decide to violate their rights. They also don't lose their rights simply because they're larger and have more resources than an (alleged) violator.
It's fair to disagree on the scope of the damage, and we'll just have to see how that plays out in court. There's is undeniable financial harm done by a pirate and it's probably somewhere in between $0 and $150,000. It's hard to fault the RIAA for being liberal in their estimate of damages, just as one can expect the defense to argue a number at the low end of the range.
Being sued is nothing at all like suffering criminal penalties and I don't accept that your analogy to speeding and police enforcement is meaningful.
If the headline of this article read "FSF sues 261 major corporations for GPL violations" I wonder how the comments might differ.
Enforcing copyright is enforcing copyright and if you want the GPL to be enforcable then you better learn to deal with RIAA's copyrights being enforcable too.
Not being able to run OS X is the downside of an Opteron. As far as I'm concerned, Apple hardware is just an expensive hardware key required to run OS X.
It would be nice, sane, and rational if it worked that way. But it doesn't. You have to pay for each copy you install.
Parent poster is completely correct and you are the misinformed person. Nobody here is talking about RedHat's desktop products.
For Redhat's enterprise packages, you are absolutely not allowed to do the things the parent poster describes. Cheapbyte's isn't selling RHAS. I'm contractually prohibited from giving you a copy of the one I've purchased. I can't even install my copy on two machines. If I do, RedHat has the right to audit my facility and charge me for any copies I've installed and haven't paid for, plus penalties.
For RedHat's enterprise product, you cannot use it without paying for it.
No, you cannot. The RedHat AS and ES products are not available or legal to use without purchasing an associated support agreement from RedHat.
The EULA on these products prohibits it.
Well, unfortunately for those named, "I didn't think I'd get in trouble because so many other people were doing it too" is not a valid defense.