My 2.2GHz Athlon 64 will outperform a Pentium 4 at 3.5GHz. Let's keep clock speed out of this, or else we will just be perpetuating the claim that Xbox is the most powerful console at present.;)
The thing I was getting at is that the PS2 has the CPU itself, plus two vector units, which all together provides a lot more number crunching than the GCN or Xbox are capable of. But the GameCube and Xbox make up for it in other ways.
The thing you have to remember is that Flipper handles the bulk of the graphics work on the GameCube... and the CPU on the PS2 handles ALL the work on the PS2. I think it's pretty clear that the PS2 rules in terms of CPU speed.
Actually, the PS2 has the faster processor. But GameCube has dedicated graphics hardware, and the architecture is just ahell of a lot more efficient... this gives a hugely more powerful machine.
I've been saying for months now that the PS2 wouldn't be able to handle the game. Reason being that Resident Evil 4 is a poster child for the true power of the GameCube. PS2 lacks several things required to make the game really work.
Load times. The GameCube version of the game streams in a lot of data from the disc when navigating through levels. Moving from inside to outside is seamless, and the GameCube has been designed to minimize the effect that this has on gameplay. The PS2 on the other hand... is lucky to even load a codec conversation in MGS.
Level size. The PS2 has but a fraction of the RAM available to the GameCube. The levels in RE4 can quite often be huge, and often have some complex geometry. The closest I've seen on PS2 is MGS3, and having played both.... I assure you that the GameCube is the CLEAR winner in this case. Also of note in this case is Metroid Prime or Eternal Darkness... which both managed to stream the levels off the disc, eliminating load times completely. (In the case of Eternal Darkness, load times were artificially inserted, as the player couldn't react to the new room quick enough). At any rate, this should be a non-issue, given that I've seen many GameCube games without load times, but have yet to see a PS2 game do the same. And levels are almost always bigger on a GameCube than a PS2.
Polygons. They are the nice little things that make a 3D model. GameCube often has upward of 6 or 7 enemies attacking you simultaneously, with a high poly player model, all while rendering incredibly detailed backdrops. Again, the closest thing that I am aware of on the PS2 is MGS3, which never has more than 4 or 5 enemies attacking you... and each with significantly less polys. Also worthy of note, GameCube is still the current leader for most polygons pushed in a console game with Rebel Strike. Rebel Strike pushes upwards of 20 million polys per second, which far outdoes the closest competitor on PS2 or Xbox.
Textures. The PS2 attempts to make up for lack of memory by giving some absolutely insane memory bandwidth. This allows you to swap textures out in memory, but you will not be able to hold nearly as many as the GameCube can. GameCube also has the advantage of 6:1 texture compression. This all results in the color depth of the PS2 textures being greatly reduced. Once again, this is probably going to be related to level size.
Anyways, this is just a few reasons why RE4 on PS2 just won't work.
Actually, Mikami already said he wasn't having anything to do with the port. So this means that it's someone other than Mikami having problems making the PS2 behave.
But honestly, I don't know why you are so shocked. I've been predicting that this exact thing would happen since the game was announced for PS2. Until now, I've just been told I was a fanboy who didn't know anything. But to me it's just common sense.
I'm still figuring out how I was modded as a troll, but the parent was modded as Funny... Whatever.;-)
But wherever I go in BC, there's always a bunch of paranoid potheads with a nice big grow-op in the backyard. It's a miracle the province ever gets anything accomplished.
Man, I really miss BC. Alberta is still nice and all, but honestly, there's only so many farmers/rednecks you can handle.;)
The Internet is a medium of anonymity. There's no easy way to prevent the sale of mature video games to minors without a huge invasion of privacy, another obstacle.
Ask for ID. There's no internet involved here.
And who is defining what is mature content?
The ESRB. Same as always. =)
If you say so.;-) I have no idea WHY it would make me angry and vindictive, but I'll just go with it. Sounds good anyways. (and I'm still laughing, so I can be quite agreeable)
BTW, hopefully you can be as eloquent in Arabic and Farsi--you might need to in the future.
You have absolutely no idea how funny I found your post. Especially that last line. Thanks for brightening up my day just a little. =) (I am SO linking to this post next time the discussion comes up on Slashdot, rather than the Talking to Americans videos)
I'm likely to be completely roasted for this... but I just can't resist saying that I've always thought that that's probably what the British Loyalists said during the American Revolution.
Nah, I just figured that I would dumb down the language so the Americans would get it.;-)
Actually, it's become sort of habitual with me, given that I am a programmer with a love for graphics. That generally encourages spelling colour as color. But I am NOT backing down on grey.
Although "zed" will likely be the next thing to be taken out of my speech. I currently work for a call centre that does outsourcing work for a major American ISP. Given that Americans in general aren't all that happy about jobs being taken out of the country, it's recommended to us to use Americanisms in our speech to avoid agitating the customers further. Also, when you tell an American to type "zed" on the keyboard, half the time they actually type in "zed", rather than "z".
And I have no idea why I just typed all this up. I should really go to bed instead of trolling Slashdot.
Actually, I've worked for the IT department of HR in a Canadian corporation... so I am a little familiar with such things. The general policy is that it becomes a HUGE pain to the company to keep personal records of any kind (as access must be seriously restricted), and it's illegal to keep personal information that you don't have a business need to have.
So I think it most likely that Google wouldn't want to keep cookie and search term data... at least not with any sort of identifiable information attached to it.
Just lucky you aren't Canadian. I find that I usually just get waved through American customs (travelling and going about my business in the US is another story though), but on my way back, I get interrogated by Canadian customs. Luckily for you though, they only really act that way towards fellow Canadians.;-)
As a Canadian, I just want to assure you that we do indeed refer to ourselves as being Canuckistani. It's absolutely hilarious to be talking to an American about Canuckistan. I remember one time I was playing America's Army, and I was going on about how we shared a border with Russia, and were the country furthest north. The guy I was talking to never clued in.
On that note, I just want to mention that Canadians are rarely seriously offended by Americans. We just think they are good for humor value if nothing else.:)
It took me a few tries the first time I used Skype. And recently they stopped accepting Canadian credit cards for a bit... but I whined like hell, and they reinstated it a few days later.
If it helps at all... I'm a Canadian, using a Scotiabank Visa card (with Secured by Visa activated). I would suggest just trying a few more times, and seeing if you can get it through.
Well, I'm on Ubuntu. But I've never had to run it as root. I just downloaded the dynamic binary, put it in my home folder, and ran it. It works fine. =)
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My 2.2GHz Athlon 64 will outperform a Pentium 4 at 3.5GHz. Let's keep clock speed out of this, or else we will just be perpetuating the claim that Xbox is the most powerful console at present. ;)
The thing I was getting at is that the PS2 has the CPU itself, plus two vector units, which all together provides a lot more number crunching than the GCN or Xbox are capable of. But the GameCube and Xbox make up for it in other ways.
The thing you have to remember is that Flipper handles the bulk of the graphics work on the GameCube... and the CPU on the PS2 handles ALL the work on the PS2. I think it's pretty clear that the PS2 rules in terms of CPU speed.
Well thank you... I have rice in my nose now.
Actually, the PS2 has the faster processor. But GameCube has dedicated graphics hardware, and the architecture is just ahell of a lot more efficient... this gives a hugely more powerful machine.
I've been saying for months now that the PS2 wouldn't be able to handle the game. Reason being that Resident Evil 4 is a poster child for the true power of the GameCube. PS2 lacks several things required to make the game really work.
Load times. The GameCube version of the game streams in a lot of data from the disc when navigating through levels. Moving from inside to outside is seamless, and the GameCube has been designed to minimize the effect that this has on gameplay. The PS2 on the other hand... is lucky to even load a codec conversation in MGS.
Level size. The PS2 has but a fraction of the RAM available to the GameCube. The levels in RE4 can quite often be huge, and often have some complex geometry. The closest I've seen on PS2 is MGS3, and having played both.... I assure you that the GameCube is the CLEAR winner in this case. Also of note in this case is Metroid Prime or Eternal Darkness... which both managed to stream the levels off the disc, eliminating load times completely. (In the case of Eternal Darkness, load times were artificially inserted, as the player couldn't react to the new room quick enough). At any rate, this should be a non-issue, given that I've seen many GameCube games without load times, but have yet to see a PS2 game do the same. And levels are almost always bigger on a GameCube than a PS2.
Polygons. They are the nice little things that make a 3D model. GameCube often has upward of 6 or 7 enemies attacking you simultaneously, with a high poly player model, all while rendering incredibly detailed backdrops. Again, the closest thing that I am aware of on the PS2 is MGS3, which never has more than 4 or 5 enemies attacking you... and each with significantly less polys. Also worthy of note, GameCube is still the current leader for most polygons pushed in a console game with Rebel Strike. Rebel Strike pushes upwards of 20 million polys per second, which far outdoes the closest competitor on PS2 or Xbox.
Textures. The PS2 attempts to make up for lack of memory by giving some absolutely insane memory bandwidth. This allows you to swap textures out in memory, but you will not be able to hold nearly as many as the GameCube can. GameCube also has the advantage of 6:1 texture compression. This all results in the color depth of the PS2 textures being greatly reduced. Once again, this is probably going to be related to level size.
Anyways, this is just a few reasons why RE4 on PS2 just won't work.
Actually, Mikami already said he wasn't having anything to do with the port. So this means that it's someone other than Mikami having problems making the PS2 behave.
But honestly, I don't know why you are so shocked. I've been predicting that this exact thing would happen since the game was announced for PS2. Until now, I've just been told I was a fanboy who didn't know anything. But to me it's just common sense.
Is a Sims addict, or is a Sim? =)
I'm still figuring out how I was modded as a troll, but the parent was modded as Funny... Whatever. ;-)
;)
But wherever I go in BC, there's always a bunch of paranoid potheads with a nice big grow-op in the backyard. It's a miracle the province ever gets anything accomplished.
Man, I really miss BC. Alberta is still nice and all, but honestly, there's only so many farmers/rednecks you can handle.
Yeah, he speaks the truth. I'm a hippie from BC who kinda lives in Alberta.
The Internet is a medium of anonymity. There's no easy way to prevent the sale of mature video games to minors without a huge invasion of privacy, another obstacle. Ask for ID. There's no internet involved here. And who is defining what is mature content? The ESRB. Same as always. =)
If you say so. ;-) I have no idea WHY it would make me angry and vindictive, but I'll just go with it. Sounds good anyways. (and I'm still laughing, so I can be quite agreeable)
BTW, hopefully you can be as eloquent in Arabic and Farsi--you might need to in the future.
You have absolutely no idea how funny I found your post. Especially that last line. Thanks for brightening up my day just a little. =) (I am SO linking to this post next time the discussion comes up on Slashdot, rather than the Talking to Americans videos)
I'm likely to be completely roasted for this... but I just can't resist saying that I've always thought that that's probably what the British Loyalists said during the American Revolution.
Nah, I just figured that I would dumb down the language so the Americans would get it. ;-)
Actually, it's become sort of habitual with me, given that I am a programmer with a love for graphics. That generally encourages spelling colour as color. But I am NOT backing down on grey.
Although "zed" will likely be the next thing to be taken out of my speech. I currently work for a call centre that does outsourcing work for a major American ISP. Given that Americans in general aren't all that happy about jobs being taken out of the country, it's recommended to us to use Americanisms in our speech to avoid agitating the customers further. Also, when you tell an American to type "zed" on the keyboard, half the time they actually type in "zed", rather than "z".
And I have no idea why I just typed all this up. I should really go to bed instead of trolling Slashdot.
Since when did I ever claim the ACs on Slashdot were any good?
Actually, I've worked for the IT department of HR in a Canadian corporation... so I am a little familiar with such things. The general policy is that it becomes a HUGE pain to the company to keep personal records of any kind (as access must be seriously restricted), and it's illegal to keep personal information that you don't have a business need to have.
So I think it most likely that Google wouldn't want to keep cookie and search term data... at least not with any sort of identifiable information attached to it.
Just lucky you aren't Canadian. I find that I usually just get waved through American customs (travelling and going about my business in the US is another story though), but on my way back, I get interrogated by Canadian customs. Luckily for you though, they only really act that way towards fellow Canadians. ;-)
As a Canadian, I just want to assure you that we do indeed refer to ourselves as being Canuckistani. It's absolutely hilarious to be talking to an American about Canuckistan. I remember one time I was playing America's Army, and I was going on about how we shared a border with Russia, and were the country furthest north. The guy I was talking to never clued in.
:)
On that note, I just want to mention that Canadians are rarely seriously offended by Americans. We just think they are good for humor value if nothing else.
Same situation with me... except I have the PC and she has the Mac. =)
Yeah, never really thought of that, as I dislike RPMs for the most part. I'll definitely give that a try.
Nah, she hates the thing almost as much as I do. ;)
They have binaries in tar.gz though. I use a Debian variant, and all I had to do was just untar it, and run the binary. :)
It took me a few tries the first time I used Skype. And recently they stopped accepting Canadian credit cards for a bit... but I whined like hell, and they reinstated it a few days later.
If it helps at all... I'm a Canadian, using a Scotiabank Visa card (with Secured by Visa activated). I would suggest just trying a few more times, and seeing if you can get it through.
Well, I'm on Ubuntu. But I've never had to run it as root. I just downloaded the dynamic binary, put it in my home folder, and ran it. It works fine. =)
Yeah, she has a Mac. =) I use Linux. (But mind you, I am building her a new PC pretty soon... hehe)
Nah, I was just trying to emphasize that it does exist for both platforms. Sorry, I completely orgot where I was. It won't happen again. =)