I've seen this happen, and heard of it so many times, you definitely need to approach this from a deeply political standpoint, that's how it will pe pproached by everyone else.
Obviously thi kind of breach is illegal, but they'll get away with it if you let them nail you instead.
I think both parent and parent's parent have missed the point. RIAA has made several bad moves in the past, including, but ceartainly not limitted to suing their customers.
I don't really think there's a moral or ethical reason to downlod musci off of the internet, but people aren't moral and I think that what RIAA is doing is equally illegal and distasteful. I have, in my life purchased less than 15 albums, but I would probably consider downloading music from online stores bfore I'd go buy another CD.
by and large, I dislike the fact that essentially my "fair use" rights have been eliminated ex:
If I buy a CD and back it up (formerly fair use) and place the original in a safe place and the Cd is stolen (not broken) I lose the rights to that music under the law. Granted the music was siezed illegally, but I no longer possess the music because I allowed it to pass out of my control. The original CD is now an illegal copy, which I can niether sell legally, nor keep. It must be returned or given to the person who stole the copy. The same applies to online Music, except that i can't even sell music that I have in digital format. It's like buying water rights but being denied a well permit, and having your irrigation ditches filled in(or perhaps somehow the reverse).
Moreover, if I digitally back-up my CD and it is stolen, I lose the rights to my digital music. In essence, I should probably rip my CD's and destroy the originals, so they won't be stolen, and so that i can back-up my digital copies, since I'm only allowed to have 2 copies of the music at any one time.
anyhow, before I'm modded offtopic:
The RIAA is doing a disservice to their shareholers/members (not doing due dillegent to $1 value) by destroying any marketing advantag they may still have. If they want to stop online file sharing, the solution is not to make legitamate retrieval of online msic less feasable, but to make it easier and cheaper to get legitamate music. As far as I'm concerned (since you brought it up) Microsoft has stolen/extorted every dollar that i've ever given them, so I am involved in competing with them finacially and in terms of market share so that I can take back my ability to fight back, to keep the dollars I earn to devote to product which I legitemately wish to purchase. Please take you equally self-righeous/biased opinion somewhere here substantiating positions is less important/ and where stereotyping is more acceptable
I have a number of friends who want anything but windows, they h3eard of this "linux thing" and they'd like some, but hve no idea that it is...
I use windows for my desktop right now mostly becuase I can't stand how frequently i have problems with Xfree.
but xfree ins't the whole issue:
2. (xfree would be issue 1) Package management/Product quality, etc.
In windows we have a control panel called "add/remove programs" and it helps us to manage the software that is installed, and the the components of our operating system. In linux we have rpms, debs, ebuilds, etc that we have to work hard to find out how to use. We have no way of creating programs commercially and installing them well. Many of the cited thousands of programs on sourceforge and freshmeat resemble the shareware of win95 found on tucows and download.com. I wouldn't use that software for most things and I'm skittish about using anything I can't buy in a box, with a user's manual and an installation guide. I might not ever use them, but a man page, or the author's sparse quotes on the web aren't usually enough for me. Don't misunderstand, I'm not saying add-remove programs is all good, but I sure think it would be a step in the right direction.
3. Samba
Samba is an awesome product and I'm really happy to see the huge improvements in it since I started working with it some years ago, but working with it on the client side is almost always torture, the best implementation of it are using it within konqueror and nautilus, and they use the non-mounted/mapped style, rather than the quicker, connection based session style, and use more bandwidth and are slower. This needs to be fixed
4. The daunting do it the way you want to approach of linux - OR - you'll have to read three manuals and spend six hours at tldp.org but it'll work the way you want it so long as you don't give up during the three-day process
WE all hate the windows "we'll tell you how you'll do it" feeling but a lot of our friends and parents and non-geek specifically don't mind being told how they do it; at least they'll be able to do it. We need there to be a big switch we can throw somewhere where we can switch between these UI modes. It's really daunting to sit down at a computer and want to play solitaire, and you just don't know how, even if I can do it 300,000,000 ways (3hun mil) ways.
In brief: Linux as a whole needs to embrace a new GUI, single installation system that has a GUI manager that is simple to use , improvements in domain-level file-sharing and application-level networking, and finally that allows me to suspend my education to use my computer when it is neccesary to get something important done.
finally, I love linux But I disagree with Dan Gillmor, linux will not be ready until 10 years from now, just like Linus said.
The problem with copy/paste is that such things should be managed by the gui, or by an additional system service thqat could translate between the different object types, but it is not really a kernel issue. This is a legitamate problem with linux. There are several thing for which there is not a broad-based system. There is currently a project at y-windows.org designed to replace xfree but needs someone to manage it. These problems need to be addressed because they are truly the weaknesses of the OS. Regarding the the usb thumbdrive issue, this is a problem because of the way that linux and windows differ when dealing with file systems. it is also tied to the fact that most companies won't write drivers for linux because they would have to give up trade-secret rights in order to distribute them as open source and becuase there is no standard for installing files accross linux. the gentoo portage system is the best I have seen yet, and hope that it recieves greater adoption accross all platforms of linux.
I didn't really gain any practical knowldge from this book: I'd say that it would be best read by programmers wishing to understand how to implement an alternative. This book really show why SMB blows so bad
My little 17-year-old sister could do better for $3.50/page and host it on geocities(now yahoo) or whatever. I vote he be jailed for bad taste, and no concept of art or design. that page is painful
Ok, granted, this guy is dumb, Really dumb, but not neccesarily trying to extrot money:
If he's having to front costs for the City/Sheriff's Website then he should have every right to take down the website ifhe can't afford it. There was obviously no agreement regarding transfer of property or owenership of the website.
The sheriff's claim that the site was public property should have been backed up with the idea that it was also a public responsibility (i.e. payment for services rendered)
It they want the site put back up they should buy the content and pay for hosting themselves, or pay for devopment costs at least, but jailing the developer is the _dumbest_ idea is indeed they wish to keep "their" content
So you propose that AMD lie to public, they'll lose my sale.
Netzero shows how their service is faster, but they don't show failure rates and disconnects because they're using software compression, and that tends to fail when people use too many resources, or install realplayer, or _do_anything.
All that AMD can do is show how much cooler stuff looks on computers with their proc: see the alien comercial intel ran promoing their pIV's alien puts proc in wierd connector; music and video come exploding from everywhere. You can't actually show performance that well, you have to enjoy the AMD experience, if you will.
. ..but more importantly: people still won't get it, they'll just be confused
Also about the IBM linux Advert: NORMAL people don't know what an OS is nor have they every heard of linux. Most have also never heard of AMD. _they_don't_have_to_know_what_it_is or what_it_does_to_want_it. They want microsoft becuase they want to go somewhere today, even if they could get there using linux. Marketting and R&D, production should never be allowed to communicate lest the marketers actually educate customers who will only understand that it's too hard and will give up.
Marketing isn't about products, it's about being cool.
. . . and the fact that bounty doesn't break doesn't make me want to buy it. I've never had a paper towel rip EVER. Why do I care if bounty lasts longer? I've just been told Bounty is better, that's all that AMD should do, I don't care why anyway.
Facts will never sell products.
I knew I loved intel long before I knew what intel was. I wanted to Yahoo long before I knew it was just a dumb site. I think IBM has the right Idea. If I don't know what linux is, the new IBM adds tell me I want it, not becuase they tell me what it is, just because there's this smart kid in the comercial.
People don't want facts, they want to shut off the computer by clicking start.
feel free to think of other examples on your own
>X is slow
I don't need more than 2Mb texture memory to run gui's in win98, 2k, nt, or scaled-down XP, but I do need some graphix memory to run X. I also need lots of processing. If I want to build a router with GUI, i have to use 300Mhz, or better, and half of the time, the gui will unexpectedly fail. To me, lag is unacceptable in a GUEnv., especially when it causes the system to crash.
Moreover, X does not sufficiently take advantage of GPU-accelerated graphix, thus, there is an upper limit on how fast I can make it by adding an AGP card, all that the AGP adds is the ability to apply and store textures.
>X places to much burden on the programmer
the fact that it does not have a native widget set and requires gtk is the proof that too much burden has been placed on the programmer: someone had to _program_ gtk. Beyond that: no room to talk: not a programmer.
>X has no standard
how many GUI's/widget sets/window managers are there for X?.: why? -> _no_standard_ for what the base linux desktop should look like.
>Xfree86 is over 10 years old
Still not completely compatible with technologies developed to accelerate gfx (see above). It does not readily support new hardware, and tends to be incompatible with it. In most cases traditional config is still CLUI/Terminal Only or requires 3rd party apps to configure. Too many of these apply
In Short
Linux is not ready for the desktop, becuase no user will ever suffer X; replace it!
get a national service plan for your wireless:
I have national service through AT&T *(not that i'd recommend going through them) but I can call from any part of the country. Most other providers have arrangements like these.
One sign of maturity if knowing how to choose. Most people aren't fully matured, nor do they want to.
Also My GF raised apoint about windows: it tells you what to do ("click here to begin") and how to do it. It doesn't really matter where you want to go today; if Micro$oft will tell you then, they just did you a serve: you don't have to figure it out yourself
1 ISP's selling e-mail addresses
2 people being put on lists because they are the recipients of forwards
3 hidden check boxes for opt-in mailings, marketing or legitimate services who have no privacy policy, and would gladly sell their users info
1. While there is money to be made, ISP's will happily provide "free" e-mail addresses paid for by spammers.
2. Forwards are evil. I am ceartain that e-mail forwards are probably the one of the biggest souces of e-mail addresses, online. For testing/interest sake I harvested 500 addresses from a forward I recieved. I AM NOT A SPAMMER. but I am interested in who is seeing my address online. Typically I will request that I not recieve forwards, unless My address is on the bcc line, that way no one sees my address.
3. Have you never signed up with ane-mail account, online auction, sweepstakes, free stuff offer, other online service that required your e-mail for account confirmation?
Come On now, give people a break. I don't go looking for spam, and it requires paranoid care to avoid getting spam.
What ISP Do you use. I run A secure download server and need more upstream generally, and also an ISP that won't mind if I have a lot of upload every month?
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I've seen this happen, and heard of it so many times, you definitely need to approach this from a deeply political standpoint, that's how it will pe pproached by everyone else. Obviously thi kind of breach is illegal, but they'll get away with it if you let them nail you instead.
I think both parent and parent's parent have missed the point. RIAA has made several bad moves in the past, including, but ceartainly not limitted to suing their customers.
I don't really think there's a moral or ethical reason to downlod musci off of the internet, but people aren't moral and I think that what RIAA is doing is equally illegal and distasteful. I have, in my life purchased less than 15 albums, but I would probably consider downloading music from online stores bfore I'd go buy another CD.
by and large, I dislike the fact that essentially my "fair use" rights have been eliminated ex:
If I buy a CD and back it up (formerly fair use) and place the original in a safe place and the Cd is stolen (not broken) I lose the rights to that music under the law. Granted the music was siezed illegally, but I no longer possess the music because I allowed it to pass out of my control. The original CD is now an illegal copy, which I can niether sell legally, nor keep. It must be returned or given to the person who stole the copy. The same applies to online Music, except that i can't even sell music that I have in digital format. It's like buying water rights but being denied a well permit, and having your irrigation ditches filled in(or perhaps somehow the reverse).
Moreover, if I digitally back-up my CD and it is stolen, I lose the rights to my digital music. In essence, I should probably rip my CD's and destroy the originals, so they won't be stolen, and so that i can back-up my digital copies, since I'm only allowed to have 2 copies of the music at any one time.
anyhow, before I'm modded offtopic:
The RIAA is doing a disservice to their shareholers/members (not doing due dillegent to $1 value) by destroying any marketing advantag they may still have. If they want to stop online file sharing, the solution is not to make legitamate retrieval of online msic less feasable, but to make it easier and cheaper to get legitamate music. As far as I'm concerned (since you brought it up) Microsoft has stolen/extorted every dollar that i've ever given them, so I am involved in competing with them finacially and in terms of market share so that I can take back my ability to fight back, to keep the dollars I earn to devote to product which I legitemately wish to purchase. Please take you equally self-righeous/biased opinion somewhere here substantiating positions is less important/ and where stereotyping is more acceptable
I use windows for my desktop right now mostly becuase I can't stand how frequently i have problems with Xfree.
but xfree ins't the whole issue:
2. (xfree would be issue 1) Package management/Product quality, etc.
- In windows we have a control panel called "add/remove programs" and it helps us to manage the software that is installed, and the the components of our operating system. In linux we have rpms, debs, ebuilds, etc that we have to work hard to find out how to use. We have no way of creating programs commercially and installing them well. Many of the cited thousands of programs on sourceforge and freshmeat resemble the shareware of win95 found on tucows and download.com. I wouldn't use that software for most things and I'm skittish about using anything I can't buy in a box, with a user's manual and an installation guide. I might not ever use them, but a man page, or the author's sparse quotes on the web aren't usually enough for me. Don't misunderstand, I'm not saying add-remove programs is all good, but I sure think it would be a step in the right direction.
3. Samba- Samba is an awesome product and I'm really happy to see the huge improvements in it since I started working with it some years ago, but working with it on the client side is almost always torture, the best implementation of it are using it within konqueror and nautilus, and they use the non-mounted/mapped style, rather than the quicker, connection based session style, and use more bandwidth and are slower. This needs to be fixed
4. The daunting do it the way you want to approach of linux- OR -
you'll have to read three manuals and spend six hours at tldp.org but it'll work the way you want it so long as you don't give up during the three-day process
- WE all hate the windows "we'll tell you how you'll do it" feeling but a lot of our friends and parents and non-geek specifically don't mind being told how they do it; at least they'll be able to do it. We need there to be a big switch we can throw somewhere where we can switch between these UI modes. It's really daunting to sit down at a computer and want to play solitaire, and you just don't know how, even if I can do it 300,000,000 ways (3hun mil) ways.
In brief: Linux as a whole needs to embrace a new GUI, single installation system that has a GUI manager that is simple to use , improvements in domain-level file-sharing and application-level networking, and finally that allows me to suspend my education to use my computer when it is neccesary to get something important done. finally, I love linux But I disagree with Dan Gillmor, linux will not be ready until 10 years from now, just like Linus said.The problem with copy/paste is that such things should be managed by the gui, or by an additional system service thqat could translate between the different object types, but it is not really a kernel issue. This is a legitamate problem with linux. There are several thing for which there is not a broad-based system. There is currently a project at y-windows.org designed to replace xfree but needs someone to manage it. These problems need to be addressed because they are truly the weaknesses of the OS. Regarding the the usb thumbdrive issue, this is a problem because of the way that linux and windows differ when dealing with file systems. it is also tied to the fact that most companies won't write drivers for linux because they would have to give up trade-secret rights in order to distribute them as open source and becuase there is no standard for installing files accross linux. the gentoo portage system is the best I have seen yet, and hope that it recieves greater adoption accross all platforms of linux.
I didn't really gain any practical knowldge from this book: I'd say that it would be best read by programmers wishing to understand how to implement an alternative. This book really show why SMB blows so bad
My little 17-year-old sister could do better for $3.50/page and host it on geocities(now yahoo) or whatever. I vote he be jailed for bad taste, and no concept of art or design. that page is painful
Ok, granted, this guy is dumb, Really dumb, but not neccesarily trying to extrot money: If he's having to front costs for the City/Sheriff's Website then he should have every right to take down the website ifhe can't afford it. There was obviously no agreement regarding transfer of property or owenership of the website. The sheriff's claim that the site was public property should have been backed up with the idea that it was also a public responsibility (i.e. payment for services rendered) It they want the site put back up they should buy the content and pay for hosting themselves, or pay for devopment costs at least, but jailing the developer is the _dumbest_ idea is indeed they wish to keep "their" content
So you propose that AMD lie to public, they'll lose my sale. Netzero shows how their service is faster, but they don't show failure rates and disconnects because they're using software compression, and that tends to fail when people use too many resources, or install realplayer, or _do_anything. All that AMD can do is show how much cooler stuff looks on computers with their proc: see the alien comercial intel ran promoing their pIV's alien puts proc in wierd connector; music and video come exploding from everywhere. You can't actually show performance that well, you have to enjoy the AMD experience, if you will. . . .but more importantly: people still won't get it, they'll just be confused
Also about the IBM linux Advert: NORMAL people don't know what an OS is nor have they every heard of linux. Most have also never heard of AMD. _they_don't_have_to_know_what_it_is or what_it_does_to_want_it. They want microsoft becuase they want to go somewhere today, even if they could get there using linux. Marketting and R&D, production should never be allowed to communicate lest the marketers actually educate customers who will only understand that it's too hard and will give up.
Marketing isn't about products, it's about being cool.
. . . and the fact that bounty doesn't break doesn't make me want to buy it. I've never had a paper towel rip EVER. Why do I care if bounty lasts longer? I've just been told Bounty is better, that's all that AMD should do, I don't care why anyway.
does Google use RedHat? I doubt it. Moreover, how much does MS support cost? etc, etc,
Facts will never sell products. I knew I loved intel long before I knew what intel was. I wanted to Yahoo long before I knew it was just a dumb site. I think IBM has the right Idea. If I don't know what linux is, the new IBM adds tell me I want it, not becuase they tell me what it is, just because there's this smart kid in the comercial. People don't want facts, they want to shut off the computer by clicking start. feel free to think of other examples on your own
>X is slow I don't need more than 2Mb texture memory to run gui's in win98, 2k, nt, or scaled-down XP, but I do need some graphix memory to run X. I also need lots of processing. If I want to build a router with GUI, i have to use 300Mhz, or better, and half of the time, the gui will unexpectedly fail. To me, lag is unacceptable in a GUEnv., especially when it causes the system to crash. Moreover, X does not sufficiently take advantage of GPU-accelerated graphix, thus, there is an upper limit on how fast I can make it by adding an AGP card, all that the AGP adds is the ability to apply and store textures. >X places to much burden on the programmer the fact that it does not have a native widget set and requires gtk is the proof that too much burden has been placed on the programmer: someone had to _program_ gtk. Beyond that: no room to talk: not a programmer. >X has no standard how many GUI's/widget sets/window managers are there for X? .: why? -> _no_standard_ for what the base linux desktop should look like.
>Xfree86 is over 10 years old
Still not completely compatible with technologies developed to accelerate gfx (see above). It does not readily support new hardware, and tends to be incompatible with it. In most cases traditional config is still CLUI/Terminal Only or requires 3rd party apps to configure. Too many of these apply
In Short
Linux is not ready for the desktop, becuase no user will ever suffer X; replace it!
get a national service plan for your wireless: I have national service through AT&T *(not that i'd recommend going through them) but I can call from any part of the country. Most other providers have arrangements like these.
One sign of maturity if knowing how to choose. Most people aren't fully matured, nor do they want to.
Also My GF raised apoint about windows: it tells you what to do ("click here to begin") and how to do it. It doesn't really matter where you want to go today; if Micro$oft will tell you then, they just did you a serve: you don't have to figure it out yourself
Ever heard of: . .
1 ISP's selling e-mail addresses
2 people being put on lists because they are the recipients of forwards
3 hidden check boxes for opt-in mailings, marketing or legitimate services who have no privacy policy, and would gladly sell their users info
1. While there is money to be made, ISP's will happily provide "free" e-mail addresses paid for by spammers.
2. Forwards are evil. I am ceartain that e-mail forwards are probably the one of the biggest souces of e-mail addresses, online. For testing/interest sake I harvested 500 addresses from a forward I recieved. I AM NOT A SPAMMER. but I am interested in who is seeing my address online. Typically I will request that I not recieve forwards, unless My address is on the bcc line, that way no one sees my address.
3. Have you never signed up with ane-mail account, online auction, sweepstakes, free stuff offer, other online service that required your e-mail for account confirmation?
Come On now, give people a break. I don't go looking for spam, and it requires paranoid care to avoid getting spam.
What ISP Do you use. I run A secure download server and need more upstream generally, and also an ISP that won't mind if I have a lot of upload every month?