Yeah, they're only spying on terrorists. Although, honestly, what they should do is just not give the terrorists phones in the first place. I guess you have to be Swedish to understand.
I advocate linux for the same reason that I advocate a lot of tools that work...having such things nearby makes my life easier.
Exactly. When Linux started to become mainstream, I took some time to step back and evaluate why I liked it so much, to make sure that I wasn't just jumping on a bandwagon. The truth is, I prefer Linux because I preferred Solaris when I was in college. Why did I like Solaris so much, though? It wasn't my first OS - the Commodore 64 "OS" was my first (and it was very gentle with me). I did DOS for years after that before a kindly soul who lived in the university computer lab opened my eyes to that tiny room of Sun terminals hidden behind the huge lab of PCs. Solaris - that is, Unix - just "clicked" with me. Everything was designed to work with everything else in a holistic, hard to characterize way. No longer was I working around deficiencies in the design of the system - the system was working for me. Going back to DOS (and later Windows) was just painful. When I graduated and discovered that the only jobs available to a non-top-ten university CS graduate were programming DOS or Windows, I wept. When I discovered that if I wanted a computer at home, I could choose between DOS or Mac, I gnashed my teeth in frustration. (I graduated college just about the same time Linus started coding kernel 1.0). When I first started hearing of Linux (Debian was my first distribution... and it was not gentle) - by all that is holy and good, it works like Solaris did! I have a C compiler! (The same C compiler I used in college, in fact) It's right there! It's bundled with the distribution! And look - there's vi! Ah - I was home again, at long last.
Ah, relax, Chicken Little. Once we run out of IPv4 addresses for our NATs, we'll just stick all those NAT's behind other NAT's. Pretty soon we'll just have one IP address tied to one NAT that everybody shares and the problem will be solved.
What you all seem to have forgotten is that his boss has already given him a hard deadline for the delivery of the project, and that deadline is next Tuesday. He didn't say that in the summary. He didn't have to.
In real life, people or large animals tends to stand there for a second after being hit...
All the people I know that really got thrown through windows suffered life-threatening...
You do know that just posting anonymously doesn't necessarily protect you against the people who are searching for you in the witness protection program, right?
Oh, I feel verbally tortured every time I read some of the idiotic opinions on Slashdot threads (for instance, reading the post you replied to was pretty painful).
Yet, ironically, our elected officials consistently cite the "rights" of the children as their reason for eradicating the few remaining rights that adults still have.
How do you know that the guy in the documentary was really doing what the FBI said he was doing? I'm sure they didn't actually show the pictures in question in the documentary. So now here we have a crime where it's illegal to look at the proof that he actually did it and for which the normal standards of limitation of police power don't apply. At this point, there's not much point in limiting police power for any reason - the only people who can verify that they're really on the up and up are the people who are doing it in the first place. That doesn't disturb you?
What I find most disturbing is that this isn't discussed anywhere except Slashdot (which seems to be split about 50/50 on the issue of whether there should be one set of laws and standards for KP and one set of laws for "everything else"). Consider the outrage and public debate that the Patriot act sparked in the US - everybody had an opinion, it was debated to death (although it did pass), and will undoubtedly be one of the primary focii of the 2008 election. What about the PROTECT act that had been successfully used to prosecute posession of drawings? No debate. No discussion. No concern. Anywhere.
This means that either the 50% of/. that finds this line of reasoning irrational is completely insane or (more likely) the fear of being seen as a sympathizer is so great that nobody risks talking about it - not even the die-hard civil libertarians.
What about the child prostitutes that everyone knows about
WHERE? I mean... that's terrible...
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Children aren't going to lose some kind of "innosense" and "purity" at midnight of their 13th birthday.
13th? I don't know what kind of pervert you are, but here in America, our children keep their innocence and purity right up until their 18th birthday and whoever tries to steal it from them goes to jail and has his innocence stolen by Bubba the inmate.
if you aren't a parent then you really don't know anything about the subject. And if you are a parent
Yay, my favorite circular logic. "If you aren't a parent, you have no right to an opinion. If you are a parent and you're opinion is different than mine, your opinion doesn't count."
Well, at least you're honest. You've thrown out the "but it's just for the poor, innocent, little children" tripe and gone straight to "it should be banned for everybody."
It makes me want to break the system. If I wasn't so lazy, I'd write a bot to report every site as porn to every monitoring system (and flag everything on YouTube as "inappropriate", etc. etc.) If all of us who opposed censorship did that, we'd eventually break the system completely and at least people would stop with the damned filters.
Haha, I wish man, but I've completely given up on Freenet. That project's been going on for, what, 12 years now? And has yet to produce a working version? Not that it's technically infeasible, it's just so bogged down with political infighting they can't get anything done. Maybe Linus Torvalds will fork it some day... at least he know how to produce a relase 1.0.
I seem to recall some ruling that the FISA allowed the government to intercept and log all communications with any foreign entity; they probably already have these logged somewhere.
I don't know - it seems to me that every time this subject comes up on/., there seem to be two extreme points of view - at one end, "they're all rapists and they should just be shot on sight", and at the other end, "some of them were just peeing in public and don't deserve any punishment". However, a brief perusal of the actual database gives me the impression that most of them are somewhere in between. It seems like ("seems", since I can't just run SQL queries on the database, although I'd be curious to do so and see what the statistics actually looked like) most of the perpretrators are male, most of the victims are female, most of the time the victims are teenagers (13 - 16, it looks like) and the crimes are usually split between "sexual assault" and "indecency with child sexual contact".
Yeah, they're only spying on terrorists. Although, honestly, what they should do is just not give the terrorists phones in the first place. I guess you have to be Swedish to understand.
Exactly. When Linux started to become mainstream, I took some time to step back and evaluate why I liked it so much, to make sure that I wasn't just jumping on a bandwagon. The truth is, I prefer Linux because I preferred Solaris when I was in college. Why did I like Solaris so much, though? It wasn't my first OS - the Commodore 64 "OS" was my first (and it was very gentle with me). I did DOS for years after that before a kindly soul who lived in the university computer lab opened my eyes to that tiny room of Sun terminals hidden behind the huge lab of PCs. Solaris - that is, Unix - just "clicked" with me. Everything was designed to work with everything else in a holistic, hard to characterize way. No longer was I working around deficiencies in the design of the system - the system was working for me. Going back to DOS (and later Windows) was just painful. When I graduated and discovered that the only jobs available to a non-top-ten university CS graduate were programming DOS or Windows, I wept. When I discovered that if I wanted a computer at home, I could choose between DOS or Mac, I gnashed my teeth in frustration. (I graduated college just about the same time Linus started coding kernel 1.0). When I first started hearing of Linux (Debian was my first distribution... and it was not gentle) - by all that is holy and good, it works like Solaris did! I have a C compiler! (The same C compiler I used in college, in fact) It's right there! It's bundled with the distribution! And look - there's vi! Ah - I was home again, at long last.
Ah, relax, Chicken Little. Once we run out of IPv4 addresses for our NATs, we'll just stick all those NAT's behind other NAT's. Pretty soon we'll just have one IP address tied to one NAT that everybody shares and the problem will be solved.
... In other news, the Slashdot effect is about to censor the court order.
What you all seem to have forgotten is that his boss has already given him a hard deadline for the delivery of the project, and that deadline is next Tuesday. He didn't say that in the summary. He didn't have to.
I won't be satisfied until I can feel the shockwave every time something explodes on the screen.
In real life, people or large animals tends to stand there for a second after being hit...
All the people I know that really got thrown through windows suffered life-threatening...
You do know that just posting anonymously doesn't necessarily protect you against the people who are searching for you in the witness protection program, right?
Oh, I feel verbally tortured every time I read some of the idiotic opinions on Slashdot threads (for instance, reading the post you replied to was pretty painful).
Well, if anybody ever needed an example of the slippery slope in action, this would be it.
Yet, ironically, our elected officials consistently cite the "rights" of the children as their reason for eradicating the few remaining rights that adults still have.
Yikes - when did we reach a point where burglary was considered a lesser crime than looking at pictures of bad things?
How do you know that the guy in the documentary was really doing what the FBI said he was doing? I'm sure they didn't actually show the pictures in question in the documentary. So now here we have a crime where it's illegal to look at the proof that he actually did it and for which the normal standards of limitation of police power don't apply. At this point, there's not much point in limiting police power for any reason - the only people who can verify that they're really on the up and up are the people who are doing it in the first place. That doesn't disturb you?
WHERE? I mean... that's terrible...
What I find most disturbing is that this isn't discussed anywhere except Slashdot (which seems to be split about 50/50 on the issue of whether there should be one set of laws and standards for KP and one set of laws for "everything else"). Consider the outrage and public debate that the Patriot act sparked in the US - everybody had an opinion, it was debated to death (although it did pass), and will undoubtedly be one of the primary focii of the 2008 election. What about the PROTECT act that had been successfully used to prosecute posession of drawings? No debate. No discussion. No concern. Anywhere.
This means that either the 50% of /. that finds this line of reasoning irrational is completely insane or (more likely) the fear of being seen as a sympathizer is so great that nobody risks talking about it - not even the die-hard civil libertarians.
You don't find the thought that that alone would be enough for a warrant disturbing in and of itself?
WHERE? I mean... that's terrible...
13th? I don't know what kind of pervert you are, but here in America, our children keep their innocence and purity right up until their 18th birthday and whoever tries to steal it from them goes to jail and has his innocence stolen by Bubba the inmate.
Yay, my favorite circular logic. "If you aren't a parent, you have no right to an opinion. If you are a parent and you're opinion is different than mine, your opinion doesn't count."
Well, at least you're honest. You've thrown out the "but it's just for the poor, innocent, little children" tripe and gone straight to "it should be banned for everybody."
It makes me want to break the system. If I wasn't so lazy, I'd write a bot to report every site as porn to every monitoring system (and flag everything on YouTube as "inappropriate", etc. etc.) If all of us who opposed censorship did that, we'd eventually break the system completely and at least people would stop with the damned filters.
I'm too lazy to actually do it, though.
Here you go.
Haha, I wish man, but I've completely given up on Freenet. That project's been going on for, what, 12 years now? And has yet to produce a working version? Not that it's technically infeasible, it's just so bogged down with political infighting they can't get anything done. Maybe Linus Torvalds will fork it some day... at least he know how to produce a relase 1.0.
I seem to recall some ruling that the FISA allowed the government to intercept and log all communications with any foreign entity; they probably already have these logged somewhere.
I don't know - it seems to me that every time this subject comes up on /., there seem to be two extreme points of view - at one end, "they're all rapists and they should just be shot on sight", and at the other end, "some of them were just peeing in public and don't deserve any punishment". However, a brief perusal of the actual database gives me the impression that most of them are somewhere in between. It seems like ("seems", since I can't just run SQL queries on the database, although I'd be curious to do so and see what the statistics actually looked like) most of the perpretrators are male, most of the victims are female, most of the time the victims are teenagers (13 - 16, it looks like) and the crimes are usually split between "sexual assault" and "indecency with child sexual contact".
Don't be silly - English policemen don't have balls.