I don't think they would be so stupid to spend their time this way.
You're looking for two keywords: 'computer' and 'program'. If that doesn't ring a bell, maybe 'computer program' will ring a bell. Or 'automate', ooooh... now that's a really technical one.....
What BugMeNot needs to do is present the login information to its users as an image with extra graphics to prevent programmatic optical character recognition, forcing the users to look at the login/password and retyping it into the site.
Ttis will obviously kill the usefulness of tools like the Firefox plug-in for BugMeNot, but that's the only way how BugMeNot can survive.
Plus, I doubt that those requests to BugMeNot aren't constantly coming from the same IPs that could be liked to the IP address space owned by the particular newspaper. So just ban those IPs. However, I understand that it might not be total morons working as sysadmins for them, so they might try use a machine with a non-matching IP address to do the login information scraping, so this leads to a conclusion that banning IP address ranges from visiting BugMeNot is not the most effective way. So now this leads back to the original idea, present the usernames/passwords as images requiring human retyping.
Moreover, most sites these days have 'log me in automatically next time' anyway, so this shouldn't be such a problem.
Sure I haven't, or it's more likely that you don't have a single sound thing to say other than presenting a supposition based on your misunderstanding of my person.
To enlighten you, I never said 'IE is the safest'. I just said that I never get spyware while using IE.
Now think, Sherlock, think hard, as hard as you can. Yes, yes!! It's there, just try your best... "an..", yes, go on, you are on it, "anti..", good, you're almost there... keep going, one more try... "antivirus"! You did it!!!!!
I simply have an always-keeps-itself-updated antivirus installed. That's the key in keeping a Windows box out of infestation.
I am no newbie, I know what I'm doing and I realize that hacving no spyware in this case is not a victory of IE but an antivirus, but if I chose not to know anything about spyware and relied only on 'that anti-virus thing' (like a non-technical user), I would still be fine.
Business models that revolve around free software *assume* that copying *will* and *does* occur on an *hourly* basis. If the makers of free software really feel like the redistribution of their software hurts them, then tell me why they themselves set up and maintain mirrors of their own software.
I was always saying that one way the way artists do their thing could be like this:
Look at software companies giving out software and then making money from support contracts. Didn't musicians use to do 'gigs' at bars and have concerts or music festivals, where you would buy the ticket to attend? Maybe this is the business model that's inevitable for those musicans who need to make money with the music.
And yes, it would create an environment of a large number of musicians, none of them being really known on a world-wide scale like some of today's musicians. But so what, they will get what they want, i.e. revenue. (Whether they will start bitching that it now actually takes work to live off of music, that's a different story.)
And another thing. People write software and share it without profit motives. And because they realize that they need to survive, they just put a 'send a donation' link in case anyone wants to express their support that way too. So many features were incorporated into some of those programs because a donation freed up the time for the developer - kind of like, software development on demand per donation. There is no reason why this couldn't be one of the viable models for musicians too.
It doesn't matter that software or music can be redistributed/copied easily, what matters is the author and his revenue model (in case he's after money).
It's about realization of reality and adjusting to it instead of staying in denial.
Imagine if China said screw you - smaller markets could just say ok, we've got a large enough market to replace the US and we don't have to live by as many rules while doing business there.
Just to let you know, China and the European Union have just said 'screw you' to the U.S. by saying "We will stop using the U.S. dollar as an exclusive currency for bank reserves, we'll diversify". While maybe sounding inferior and off-topic, this has tremendous impact on the flow of capital globally (and is also one of the reasons why your U.S. dollar is so weak).
Markets outside of the U.S. are evolved enough for the U.S. to be slowly pushed to the side as nothing less but nothing more than the 5% of the world that it is (300 million out of 6 billion).
You can expect that with the weakening position of the U.S. in the global markets, the battle of prevalence of intellectual property rules that the U.S. wishes for will be progressing less and less favorably for the U.S.
I have thought about going to MIT (I'm form Norway), but as of todays survailence-policies I no longer want to.
Don't put the carriage before the horse. Just because you thought of going to MIT doesn't mean you would actually be able to get admitted there. Only once you get admitted to MIT, you can start talking about not wanting to go there due to surveillance in the U.S. Otherwise, it's just empty self-flattery.
So all browser extensions should be loaded by the Operating System as seperate processes and communicate with the browser via. an asyncronous message system? Because that's the only way you could stop a browser extension crashing the browser.
Actually, that's not entirely true. You could probably have each extension running simply as a separate thread, the client application will keep a reference to it, then assign a dedicated queue object, launch one extra thread (call it 'controller') of its own to talk to the queue (pick up and deposit messages) and you'd have one central piece of code ('controller manager') which maintains a reference to the set of controllers and can determine based on status of the controller whether the plug-in is healthy.
by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 21, @08:21AM
So all browser extensions should be loaded by the Operating System as seperate processes and communicate with the browser via. an asyncronous message system?
Exactly.
At a guess I'd say you know > that much about the subject.
Um... how did you determine that, dear anonymous nobody?
What does accomplishment have anything to do with validity of that person's opinion? (At most, it just adds to the potential of using that respect in a manipulative way.)
You gotta realize that the world is not black and white and even your biggest untouchable hero may have flaws, just like anyone else.
You ignorant twat, you obviously have no idea about the fact that algorithms which are to tell whether story 1 is talking abuot the same thing as story 2, just with different words, are quite a bit different than "standard search".
What would you say if someone came up to you and said "You deserve to go to jail." And if you ask why, you will be told: "Because I think so."
Regardless of what preceeded the "you deserve..." statement, to say something like that is in essence forcing a value judgement upon another person. That's what makes the second half of Franklin's statement arrogant.
But I guess that's the way the world works these days. If a majority thinks the forceful value judgement, then you are stuck being a minority opinion that gets crushed.
PS: And yes, I do realize that what I just described is touching the subject of the difference between democracy and a republic as a form of government.
Beer makes sense also. There are always a hell of a lot of hurrican parties in Florida whenever a hurrican comes 'round.
Nope, beer doesn't make sense. The only reason why it would make sense is because it is highly caloric. However, it its alcohol content causes dehydratation, so the human body looses water sooner.
There are much better ways of getting highly caloric items into your system, without the side effect of dehydratation caused by the presence of alcohol.
People have 'beer parties' during hurricanes mostly probably so that their minds relax, who wants to be stressed and ponder for hours and days about 'what could happen next'. Kinda the same reason why soldiers drank during war.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." -Ben Franklin
While the pricipal point that one should not be giving up essential liberty to get temporary safety is good, I have one ongoing problem with this quote being used over and over.
Who the fuck Franklin thought he was when he decided that he has the right to decide who deserves what?
As far as I'm concerned, if your still running windows connected to the internet, buying Lexmark gear, and reading this with IE, then you deserve everything you get.
Are real-time visitor stats of/. public? Link anyone?
It's not because these spaces are "bizarre", it's because that instead of recipe+"oriental rice"+spice, the great grandparent should have put in some spaces around the pluses: recipe +"oriental rice" +spice
Slashdot Mirror
I don't think they would be so stupid to spend their time this way.
You're looking for two keywords: 'computer' and 'program'. If that doesn't ring a bell, maybe 'computer program' will ring a bell. Or 'automate', ooooh... now that's a really technical one.....
What BugMeNot needs to do is present the login information to its users as an image with extra graphics to prevent programmatic optical character recognition, forcing the users to look at the login/password and retyping it into the site.
Ttis will obviously kill the usefulness of tools like the Firefox plug-in for BugMeNot, but that's the only way how BugMeNot can survive.
Plus, I doubt that those requests to BugMeNot aren't constantly coming from the same IPs that could be liked to the IP address space owned by the particular newspaper. So just ban those IPs. However, I understand that it might not be total morons working as sysadmins for them, so they might try use a machine with a non-matching IP address to do the login information scraping, so this leads to a conclusion that banning IP address ranges from visiting BugMeNot is not the most effective way. So now this leads back to the original idea, present the usernames/passwords as images requiring human retyping.
Moreover, most sites these days have 'log me in automatically next time' anyway, so this shouldn't be such a problem.
more likely you haven't found any spyware
Sure I haven't, or it's more likely that you don't have a single sound thing to say other than presenting a supposition based on your misunderstanding of my person.
To enlighten you, I never said 'IE is the safest'. I just said that I never get spyware while using IE.
Now think, Sherlock, think hard, as hard as you can. Yes, yes!! It's there, just try your best... "an..", yes, go on, you are on it, "anti..", good, you're almost there... keep going, one more try... "antivirus"! You did it!!!!!
...you are painfully mistaken. This wouldn't be Slashdot if the bashing didn't start from the beginning.
AdAware reference file: Build:01R347. AdAware version: 6.181 Personal
Norton Antivirus, version 8.1.0.825, scan engine: 4.2.0.7, virus def file: 12/15/2004 rev. 32
AdAware scan results: 132 items recognized - all are cookie files (which AdAware reports as well)
I don't need AdAware or similar mini-app s**t on my computer any more, the antivirus is taking care of everything.
just because you don't know doesn't mean it isn't there.
If you don't have a point, please just resist the urge to use non-sense logical propaganda, thank you.
I am neither a lucky man nor a MS fanboy.
I simply have an always-keeps-itself-updated antivirus installed. That's the key in keeping a Windows box out of infestation.
I am no newbie, I know what I'm doing and I realize that hacving no spyware in this case is not a victory of IE but an antivirus, but if I chose not to know anything about spyware and relied only on 'that anti-virus thing' (like a non-technical user), I would still be fine.
However, when this happens with IE, you have to terminate the browser process to get out of the "you must click yes" mousetrap.
Not true. Just hit Esc (which will imply 'No') and keep it pressed for a few seconds.
This stops even execution of JavaScript timer-based code.
Just because one doesn't know how to use IE while staying spyware-free doesn't mean IE is crappy. It means that the user is crappy.
I've used IE forever and never got any spyware in my life.
I believe your sig is misspelled.
Business models that revolve around free software *assume* that copying *will* and *does* occur on an *hourly* basis. If the makers of free software really feel like the redistribution of their software hurts them, then tell me why they themselves set up and maintain mirrors of their own software.
I was always saying that one way the way artists do their thing could be like this:
Look at software companies giving out software and then making money from support contracts. Didn't musicians use to do 'gigs' at bars and have concerts or music festivals, where you would buy the ticket to attend? Maybe this is the business model that's inevitable for those musicans who need to make money with the music.
And yes, it would create an environment of a large number of musicians, none of them being really known on a world-wide scale like some of today's musicians. But so what, they will get what they want, i.e. revenue. (Whether they will start bitching that it now actually takes work to live off of music, that's a different story.)
And another thing. People write software and share it without profit motives. And because they realize that they need to survive, they just put a 'send a donation' link in case anyone wants to express their support that way too. So many features were incorporated into some of those programs because a donation freed up the time for the developer - kind of like, software development on demand per donation. There is no reason why this couldn't be one of the viable models for musicians too.
It doesn't matter that software or music can be redistributed/copied easily, what matters is the author and his revenue model (in case he's after money).
It's about realization of reality and adjusting to it instead of staying in denial.
Imagine if China said screw you - smaller markets could just say ok, we've got a large enough market to replace the US and we don't have to live by as many rules while doing business there.
Just to let you know, China and the European Union have just said 'screw you' to the U.S. by saying "We will stop using the U.S. dollar as an exclusive currency for bank reserves, we'll diversify". While maybe sounding inferior and off-topic, this has tremendous impact on the flow of capital globally (and is also one of the reasons why your U.S. dollar is so weak).
Markets outside of the U.S. are evolved enough for the U.S. to be slowly pushed to the side as nothing less but nothing more than the 5% of the world that it is (300 million out of 6 billion).
You can expect that with the weakening position of the U.S. in the global markets, the battle of prevalence of intellectual property rules that the U.S. wishes for will be progressing less and less favorably for the U.S.
I have thought about going to MIT (I'm form Norway), but as of todays survailence-policies I no longer want to.
Don't put the carriage before the horse. Just because you thought of going to MIT doesn't mean you would actually be able to get admitted there. Only once you get admitted to MIT, you can start talking about not wanting to go there due to surveillance in the U.S. Otherwise, it's just empty self-flattery.
Many slashdotters who work on ordinary, civilian things for companies with government contracts would be required to sign up.
/.-ers with false pretense that any of them actually work for a company with government contracts.
Don't flatter the
To LimeWire, duh...
So all browser extensions should be loaded by the Operating System as seperate processes and communicate with the browser via. an asyncronous message system? Because that's the only way you could stop a browser extension crashing the browser.
Actually, that's not entirely true. You could probably have each extension running simply as a separate thread, the client application will keep a reference to it, then assign a dedicated queue object, launch one extra thread (call it 'controller') of its own to talk to the queue (pick up and deposit messages) and you'd have one central piece of code ('controller manager') which maintains a reference to the set of controllers and can determine based on status of the controller whether the plug-in is healthy.
by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 21, @08:21AM
So all browser extensions should be loaded by the Operating System as seperate processes and communicate with the browser via. an asyncronous message system?
Exactly.
At a guess I'd say you know > that much about the subject.
Um... how did you determine that, dear anonymous nobody?
Maybe the extensions he uses are buggy (in which case he should blame the extension).
If Firefox crashes because of a problem with an extension, then Firefox has shitty design.
What does accomplishment have anything to do with validity of that person's opinion? (At most, it just adds to the potential of using that respect in a manipulative way.)
You gotta realize that the world is not black and white and even your biggest untouchable hero may have flaws, just like anyone else.
news, standard search on a subset of sites
You ignorant twat, you obviously have no idea about the fact that algorithms which are to tell whether story 1 is talking abuot the same thing as story 2, just with different words, are quite a bit different than "standard search".
What do they have?
Froogle, copy of JungleE
Jungle-what?
Care to give out a URL? You wouldn't be talking shit, would you?
That's why it should have been modded "-1, Pathetic" or "+1, Laughter through tears".
What would you say if someone came up to you and said "You deserve to go to jail." And if you ask why, you will be told: "Because I think so."
Regardless of what preceeded the "you deserve..." statement, to say something like that is in essence forcing a value judgement upon another person. That's what makes the second half of Franklin's statement arrogant.
But I guess that's the way the world works these days. If a majority thinks the forceful value judgement, then you are stuck being a minority opinion that gets crushed.
PS: And yes, I do realize that what I just described is touching the subject of the difference between democracy and a republic as a form of government.
Beer makes sense also. There are always a hell of a lot of hurrican parties in Florida whenever a hurrican comes 'round.
Nope, beer doesn't make sense. The only reason why it would make sense is because it is highly caloric. However, it its alcohol content causes dehydratation, so the human body looses water sooner.
There are much better ways of getting highly caloric items into your system, without the side effect of dehydratation caused by the presence of alcohol.
People have 'beer parties' during hurricanes mostly probably so that their minds relax, who wants to be stressed and ponder for hours and days about 'what could happen next'. Kinda the same reason why soldiers drank during war.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." -Ben Franklin
While the pricipal point that one should not be giving up essential liberty to get temporary safety is good, I have one ongoing problem with this quote being used over and over.
Who the fuck Franklin thought he was when he decided that he has the right to decide who deserves what?
As far as I'm concerned, if your still running windows connected to the internet, buying Lexmark gear, and reading this with IE, then you deserve everything you get.
/. public? Link anyone?
Are real-time visitor stats of
It's not because these spaces are "bizarre", it's because that instead of recipe+"oriental rice"+spice, the great grandparent should have put in some spaces around the pluses: recipe +"oriental rice" +spice
Don't pretend. :-)