I tried www.boogle.com. It's Google with a different quote and a different pretty picture
Painful site. The pictures look like they're scanned from cheap christian christmas cards. And the quotes, have mercy! I've heard enough quotes from scientists and US presidents and artists and whatnot to last a fucking lifetime!
The kernel should look exactly the same to the driver, so that you don't need a new driver for a new point release.
or decide to change something that breaks the rigid structure into which this proprietary driver is locked?
The rigid structure you speak of should be should be, er, rigid. ie. it shouldn't have to change or be broken very often, facilitating driver compatibility.
What's the ideal solution?
Have the Linux kernel do more to make it easier to use binary drivers?;-)
Because as you can see from Intel, they don't seem to be prepared to release all the code into the open that makes the Centrino wireless card work. Maybe if we all sign an online petition, Intel will change their mind? ie. you just gotta accept it. In the mean time, why should be it so difficult to use binary kernel modules in Linux?
What's with the people making these announcements? I read the comments by XFree86's David Dawes a while back - he only wrote about 2 lines or so, and hardly replied when people started asking for clarification.
Then Theo of OpenBSD in this thread writes a quick response rejecting the whole thing, again with absolutely no explaintation as to why, and what the specific problems are.
Then check out the posts in that thread from Darren Reed, getting shot down as a troll straight away for inquiring what the problem with it actually is!
This kind of discussion and attitude floating around turns me off OSS a little. The last thing I want to see is multiple implementations of X servers in wide use, different ones on different distributions, some doing some things, others doing things a little differently. And of course yet more duplication of effort, re-writing code, etc. Seems a shame. Seems like we just have more fragmentation to look forward to.
I had mine fail after about 9 months, and it was also pretty hot in my case, and during summer. I also had a 60GXP in there so I was worried. After it failed I bought a new case with fans right in front of the hard drives. The 60GXP is still going fine but is extremely noisy now (not clicking, just whine).
IBM's DFT thing didn't work for me. It cleared the drive for a little while but the noises came back and it wouldn't work.
Didn't seem related to heat. Sometimes it'd occur as soon as it spun up, sometimes it would be fine for days. I think if it spun up normally, it would keep going ok until it was next powered on.
Ever since then I've been paranoid about hard drives and went to the trouble of mirroring all the partitions on my server using linux software RAID-1. Works nicely and boots off either drive.
For me there are a few reasons why I don't play as many games thesedays:
1. Less time. Got other stuff to do. Study, and work. Work is okay but study consumes a lot of outside hours too. There's always more you could be doing. I find it harder to put time into games now. In the back of my mind, I'm always aware of what else I could be doing.
2. Other interests. Other stuff can be fun too. A few years ago I never read books just for my own interest, now I do. And of all things I've been learning Japanese recently, again something I never would have been interested in when I was younger. I guess I want to expand more, comes with age.
3. Age of fellow players. This one is pretty big. There's only one game I still play occasionaly now, and that's Live For Speed, an excellent, high-quality, independently developed racing sim. The online play is the best I've come across. But while the competition is good, the competitors themselves mostly seem to be guys who are 13-25 (mostly immature), or guys who are 45+. High school kids or men trying to fit in a few games around their spouse. I feel a little out of place.
Aside from LFS, the last game I played for a while was Grand Theft Auto 3. But I think I played that more for the radio stations & music, and the scale of the city rather than gameplay. I tired of it pretty quick. I definately have less tolerance for repetition now.
To be pedantic, I think the term for it is just 'Pentium M'. The Pentium 4 Mobile is the version with speeds around 2-2.2 GHz, and most of those systems get about 2.5-3 hours battery life.
I swapped my Thinkpad R32 (P4-M 1.6) to a R50 (P-M 1.4) and the battery life is about 4.5 hours. So if that is due to the new Pentium, it's pretty good for me.
I also believe that it needs a certain Graphics processor, also from Intel.
Nah I think you can use others, mine has an ATI Radeon 7500 but I've got 'Centrino' plastered all over it.
What the parent was saying about starting up like a calculator, though, is rubbish.
But it does have 2.2 by default doesn't it? If I press Enter at the boot prompt of my woody CD, I get the 2.2 idepci kernel. So I would say that is the default.
No, not _and_ you twit. The most the MD could address was 4Mb. So when you are making a table called "Comparison Chart: NeoGeo vs. Other Consoles" you will obviously put 4Mb.
My 1989 Mitsubishi Magna Elite (Australian name, dunno what it was called elsewhere) had a big orange digital speedo. Many people who went in the car kept staring at it. I found it easy to read and it was very unique. Never seen a digital speedo since.
The fuel gauge wasn't very intuitive though. It was a vertical set of bars to the left of the display. If you got down to 1 bar, that didn't actually mean you were almost out of petrol. You had to press a button under it, like a magnifier, and it give you a more accurate reading in a different colour, so you could say "oh that's ok, I've still got 3 bars left". After a second it would go back to the regular readout.
Your post reminds me of when I first got into Linux. I was doing it all - IMAP, Samba, KDE, GNOME, I was serving up files, sucking down emails, filtering mailing lists, blocking ports, emulating CPUs, unpacking archives, dumping disks, querying databases, compiling software, checking memory usage, killing processes, grepping strings, setting quotas, you name it. I thought this is fantastic, I could never go back, what had I been missing!
Then I kinda realised over a period of time... what IS all this crap?! I didn't really need much of it at all. I'd been doing just as much without as with. I was using most of it just because it was there, and because I could.
Ditto the phones. I used to compare phones. Used to know the model numbers. Used to give a shit. Maybe I'm just getting cynical, but my Nokia 5110 does a lot more than I need already. And most importantly, it makes telephone calls (although it's having some difficulty nowadays:). And that is what I need, in the end.
I guess I stopped looking for features just for the sake of it. I think it's pretty easy to literally trick yourself into thinking that you need something, just because it's there and you can use it or buy it or get it, or because someone else has got it.
You may really need all those features, which is cool. But generally I don't think you can say others are 'missing out' by using 'limited devices', as you put it. For me, I'm using a device that does what I primarily need, works okay, and I'm not missing out on a single thing. In fact I'd say I'm doing just as much, if not more, by using a more 'limited' device.
I wonder if this happens to other people? ie. getting more and more interested in features, then kinda stepping back and just using what you need and not looking too far beyond that.
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I use Debian on all my machines now and I find it to be incredibly easy to use (and Debian is also misrepresented as being one of the more difficult studies)
I went the other way. I really felt Debian put quantity (# of packages, # of supported architectures) ahead of quality. Some of Debian's principles, like treating all the architectures with about equal priority, really hold it up sometimes. And software in unstable and even testing, recently (maybe they've been forcing some of it in, because the progess to sarge is a bit slow), has been pretty bad in my experience. Just small packaging errors here and there, but I was just finding it a nuisance. Of course, this can happen in any free software.
But I have found with FreeBSD, I simply don't have to fight anymore. It requires a bit more knowledge of what you're installing; there's less done for you automatically. But beyond that, it's all reliable and easier to stay current than Debian unstable.
But yeah, Debian is actually the easiest distro I've used by far. FreeBSD is the best Linux distro though, if you know what I mean. Who cares about the kernel anyway.
lack of Centrino support. Bastards at Intel! I would not have purchased this laptop if I knew I would have gotten shafted on Linux support -- especially when I was under the impression Intel was Linux-friendly!
Bastards? It seems to me that Intel can be considered very Linux-friendly indeed. They've done plenty for Linux. Why are they bastards? For whatever reason, there are details of the Centrino hardware that they don't want to disclose. I don't see what the problem with that is. Intel have even said they're working on it, and it'll be better in the future. So quit yer whining!
But for others it will be a horrifying discovery that they're not as l33t as they thought they were.
Absolutely! I was confident starting out with FreeBSD a few months ago, having used Debian for a long while and other Linux distros before that.
But the fact of it was that I just wasn't prepared at all. It took me about 3 separate installs of FreeBSD and a lot of questioning before I could get some useful stuff happening (eg. running cvsup). It had eaten up a lot of my time, but I felt I had learnt a significant amount that I hadn't been exposed to before.
Was it worth it? Yes in that now I'm running the latest versions of software; ports is so much more up to date than Debian, and seems to be of higher quality too. But no in that I spent a lot of time on it, and maintenance requires you to know more about the software you're installing than on Linux.
eg. on Debian I can install, say, postfix, and not have to read much (if any) documentation. With FreeBSD I'm all over the place - forums, mailing lists, handbook, postfix.org. I'm not so sure the effort is entirely worth it.
It matters if you're dumb/enthusiastic enough to want special thermal compound for a degree or two of cooling, and you reckon silver content is what's going to give you more speed:-o
What's with the attitude. I don't think the people involved are going to feel that it's 'wasted work'.
Maybe the developers find it fun? Maybe they want the challenge? It doesn't have to have any particular benefits and it doesn't have to make sense. Obviously they're going to work on it because it's a learning experience, to show that it can be done, etc. Nothin' wrong with that.
like software a lot, but I certainly don't let it take over driving.
It doesn't do driving. It does parking.
Although I can imagine this system not working very well, and causing a lot of waiting. You'd pull up behind someone who's going to reverse into a space. You'd see them pressing a few buttons, and either the car will start going back, or it'll just sit there telling the driver that it can't park in the given space. Maybe the driver would reverse a bit, move outward or in closer, then try again. All this takes time, time, time. Meanwhile you're sitting behind about to explode.
Anyway I don't think I'd use this system. Nothing like doing a quick, clean, decisive, no-correction-needed reverse park.
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I tried www.boogle.com. It's Google with a different quote and a different pretty picture
Painful site. The pictures look like they're scanned from cheap christian christmas cards. And the quotes, have mercy! I've heard enough quotes from scientists and US presidents and artists and whatnot to last a fucking lifetime!
What happens if we release a new kernel
;-)
The kernel should look exactly the same to the driver, so that you don't need a new driver for a new point release.
or decide to change something that breaks the rigid structure into which this proprietary driver is locked?
The rigid structure you speak of should be should be, er, rigid. ie. it shouldn't have to change or be broken very often, facilitating driver compatibility.
What's the ideal solution?
Have the Linux kernel do more to make it easier to use binary drivers?
Because as you can see from Intel, they don't seem to be prepared to release all the code into the open that makes the Centrino wireless card work. Maybe if we all sign an online petition, Intel will change their mind? ie. you just gotta accept it. In the mean time, why should be it so difficult to use binary kernel modules in Linux?
What's with the people making these announcements? I read the comments by XFree86's David Dawes a while back - he only wrote about 2 lines or so, and hardly replied when people started asking for clarification.
Then Theo of OpenBSD in this thread writes a quick response rejecting the whole thing, again with absolutely no explaintation as to why, and what the specific problems are.
Then check out the posts in that thread from Darren Reed, getting shot down as a troll straight away for inquiring what the problem with it actually is!
This kind of discussion and attitude floating around turns me off OSS a little. The last thing I want to see is multiple implementations of X servers in wide use, different ones on different distributions, some doing some things, others doing things a little differently. And of course yet more duplication of effort, re-writing code, etc. Seems a shame. Seems like we just have more fragmentation to look forward to.
I had mine fail after about 9 months, and it was also pretty hot in my case, and during summer. I also had a 60GXP in there so I was worried. After it failed I bought a new case with fans right in front of the hard drives. The 60GXP is still going fine but is extremely noisy now (not clicking, just whine).
IBM's DFT thing didn't work for me. It cleared the drive for a little while but the noises came back and it wouldn't work.
Didn't seem related to heat. Sometimes it'd occur as soon as it spun up, sometimes it would be fine for days. I think if it spun up normally, it would keep going ok until it was next powered on.
Ever since then I've been paranoid about hard drives and went to the trouble of mirroring all the partitions on my server using linux software RAID-1. Works nicely and boots off either drive.
NFSU is your example of a decent, authentic racing game? Come on, that arcade trash doesn't count.
For me there are a few reasons why I don't play as many games thesedays:
:-/
1. Less time. Got other stuff to do. Study, and work. Work is okay but study consumes a lot of outside hours too. There's always more you could be doing. I find it harder to put time into games now. In the back of my mind, I'm always aware of what else I could be doing.
2. Other interests. Other stuff can be fun too. A few years ago I never read books just for my own interest, now I do. And of all things I've been learning Japanese recently, again something I never would have been interested in when I was younger. I guess I want to expand more, comes with age.
3. Age of fellow players. This one is pretty big. There's only one game I still play occasionaly now, and that's Live For Speed, an excellent, high-quality, independently developed racing sim. The online play is the best I've come across. But while the competition is good, the competitors themselves mostly seem to be guys who are 13-25 (mostly immature), or guys who are 45+. High school kids or men trying to fit in a few games around their spouse. I feel a little out of place.
Aside from LFS, the last game I played for a while was Grand Theft Auto 3. But I think I played that more for the radio stations & music, and the scale of the city rather than gameplay. I tired of it pretty quick. I definately have less tolerance for repetition now.
Times change
Pentium IV Mobility Processor
To be pedantic, I think the term for it is just 'Pentium M'. The Pentium 4 Mobile is the version with speeds around 2-2.2 GHz, and most of those systems get about 2.5-3 hours battery life.
I swapped my Thinkpad R32 (P4-M 1.6) to a R50 (P-M 1.4) and the battery life is about 4.5 hours. So if that is due to the new Pentium, it's pretty good for me.
I also believe that it needs a certain Graphics processor, also from Intel.
Nah I think you can use others, mine has an ATI Radeon 7500 but I've got 'Centrino' plastered all over it.
What the parent was saying about starting up like a calculator, though, is rubbish.
But it does have 2.2 by default doesn't it? If I press Enter at the boot prompt of my woody CD, I get the 2.2 idepci kernel. So I would say that is the default.
But you can type 'bf24' to get 2.4 of course.
No, not _and_ you twit. The most the MD could address was 4Mb. So when you are making a table called "Comparison Chart: NeoGeo vs. Other Consoles" you will obviously put 4Mb.
That was because it had some bank-switching stuff inside the cart, in order to overcome the 4Mb limitation.
Okay. Thanks for letting us all know.
True. I'm tired of filling out fake information. I usually use:
John Connor
Cyberdyne Systems
1 Cyberdyne Lane
Terminator Town
USA 90210
90210 is the only US post code I know, because of the television show.
Works for me.
And that in turn sounds like a plan to expand a tiny market share :)
Sounds like its a little too exclusive if you can't afford to be in it. Oh well, maybe you can just peer in through the Windows.
Welcome to the internet.
My 1989 Mitsubishi Magna Elite (Australian name, dunno what it was called elsewhere) had a big orange digital speedo. Many people who went in the car kept staring at it. I found it easy to read and it was very unique. Never seen a digital speedo since.
The fuel gauge wasn't very intuitive though. It was a vertical set of bars to the left of the display. If you got down to 1 bar, that didn't actually mean you were almost out of petrol. You had to press a button under it, like a magnifier, and it give you a more accurate reading in a different colour, so you could say "oh that's ok, I've still got 3 bars left". After a second it would go back to the regular readout.
I loved that car.
Your post reminds me of when I first got into Linux. I was doing it all - IMAP, Samba, KDE, GNOME, I was serving up files, sucking down emails, filtering mailing lists, blocking ports, emulating CPUs, unpacking archives, dumping disks, querying databases, compiling software, checking memory usage, killing processes, grepping strings, setting quotas, you name it. I thought this is fantastic, I could never go back, what had I been missing!
:). And that is what I need, in the end.
Then I kinda realised over a period of time... what IS all this crap?! I didn't really need much of it at all. I'd been doing just as much without as with. I was using most of it just because it was there, and because I could.
Ditto the phones. I used to compare phones. Used to know the model numbers. Used to give a shit. Maybe I'm just getting cynical, but my Nokia 5110 does a lot more than I need already. And most importantly, it makes telephone calls (although it's having some difficulty nowadays
I guess I stopped looking for features just for the sake of it. I think it's pretty easy to literally trick yourself into thinking that you need something, just because it's there and you can use it or buy it or get it, or because someone else has got it.
You may really need all those features, which is cool. But generally I don't think you can say others are 'missing out' by using 'limited devices', as you put it. For me, I'm using a device that does what I primarily need, works okay, and I'm not missing out on a single thing. In fact I'd say I'm doing just as much, if not more, by using a more 'limited' device.
I wonder if this happens to other people? ie. getting more and more interested in features, then kinda stepping back and just using what you need and not looking too far beyond that.
I use Debian on all my machines now and I find it to be incredibly easy to use (and Debian is also misrepresented as being one of the more difficult studies)
I went the other way. I really felt Debian put quantity (# of packages, # of supported architectures) ahead of quality. Some of Debian's principles, like treating all the architectures with about equal priority, really hold it up sometimes. And software in unstable and even testing, recently (maybe they've been forcing some of it in, because the progess to sarge is a bit slow), has been pretty bad in my experience. Just small packaging errors here and there, but I was just finding it a nuisance. Of course, this can happen in any free software.
But I have found with FreeBSD, I simply don't have to fight anymore. It requires a bit more knowledge of what you're installing; there's less done for you automatically. But beyond that, it's all reliable and easier to stay current than Debian unstable.
But yeah, Debian is actually the easiest distro I've used by far. FreeBSD is the best Linux distro though, if you know what I mean. Who cares about the kernel anyway.
lack of Centrino support. Bastards at Intel! I would not have purchased this laptop if I knew I would have gotten shafted on Linux support -- especially when I was under the impression Intel was Linux-friendly!
Bastards? It seems to me that Intel can be considered very Linux-friendly indeed. They've done plenty for Linux. Why are they bastards? For whatever reason, there are details of the Centrino hardware that they don't want to disclose. I don't see what the problem with that is. Intel have even said they're working on it, and it'll be better in the future. So quit yer whining!
But for others it will be a horrifying discovery that they're not as l33t as they thought they were.
Absolutely! I was confident starting out with FreeBSD a few months ago, having used Debian for a long while and other Linux distros before that.
But the fact of it was that I just wasn't prepared at all. It took me about 3 separate installs of FreeBSD and a lot of questioning before I could get some useful stuff happening (eg. running cvsup). It had eaten up a lot of my time, but I felt I had learnt a significant amount that I hadn't been exposed to before.
Was it worth it? Yes in that now I'm running the latest versions of software; ports is so much more up to date than Debian, and seems to be of higher quality too. But no in that I spent a lot of time on it, and maintenance requires you to know more about the software you're installing than on Linux.
eg. on Debian I can install, say, postfix, and not have to read much (if any) documentation. With FreeBSD I'm all over the place - forums, mailing lists, handbook, postfix.org. I'm not so sure the effort is entirely worth it.
0(1) is a "term" from computer science.
Are you sure it's a "term"? I could have sworn it was just a term.
I'm always surprised at how bad Vegemite looks in photos, like here. It looks much nicer (more edible) when you're holding the jar.
It matters if you're dumb/enthusiastic enough to want special thermal compound for a degree or two of cooling, and you reckon silver content is what's going to give you more speed :-o
What's with the attitude. I don't think the people involved are going to feel that it's 'wasted work'.
Maybe the developers find it fun? Maybe they want the challenge? It doesn't have to have any particular benefits and it doesn't have to make sense. Obviously they're going to work on it because it's a learning experience, to show that it can be done, etc. Nothin' wrong with that.
like software a lot, but I certainly don't let it take over driving.
It doesn't do driving. It does parking.
Although I can imagine this system not working very well, and causing a lot of waiting. You'd pull up behind someone who's going to reverse into a space. You'd see them pressing a few buttons, and either the car will start going back, or it'll just sit there telling the driver that it can't park in the given space. Maybe the driver would reverse a bit, move outward or in closer, then try again. All this takes time, time, time. Meanwhile you're sitting behind about to explode.
Anyway I don't think I'd use this system. Nothing like doing a quick, clean, decisive, no-correction-needed reverse park.