We can release new levels, new stickers, new content...
I'm surprised.
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I thought the whole point of this game was to have paying customers do that for them. While they are at it, may I suggest songs about Feklar?
I'm sorry, I don't quite agree with you. Which company do you work for? How many have you hired that you can make such a broad conclusion?
Disclaimer: I'm pretty familiar with the J.D. Edwards Honors Program (JDE) since my company started working with their students in Design Studio last year. We're doing another two projects this year. My particular office is in Fargo, ND, but we're headquartered in Redmond, WA, and I like to think we have high standards for college hires (anyone ever heard of the manhole question?). Last year we hired 4, and I think we're hoping for another "good crop" this year.
It [Olin's approach] hardly helps with the overall lack of new students majoring in those subjects at university in the first place.
Why do you say that? JDE's initial classes suffered from the same problem that all cs/engineering fields suffer from: lack of women. However, in the past 3 years, since the program started making a name for itself in the region, the incoming classes have shifted from 15% women to 40%. If you look at Olin's student profiles, you'll see their classes ranged 40-50% women. I think that's pretty amazing, and it's evidence that programs like these can attract new students.
Anytime a program/college/university realizes that the real-world is interdisciplinary, I think it's a win for students and industry. I happen to hope the academics merge computer science/engineering and business because that's valuable to me, but that's not the only potent combination.
This program is an interesting experiment at an elite school.
Really? According to Olin's wiki article, it is a standalone school only affiliated with area schools to share services (like safety and athletics). If you're referring to JDE, at 10 years old it's neither an experiment nor at an elite school (Nebraska is a good school, but still is no Harvard).
The other problem I have with it is that the ideas espoused are not terribly new.
Again, reading Olin's wiki article and and JDE's wiki article, it seems Olin was founded in 1997 and JDE was founded in 1998. So, Olin's "technically" first, but the start dates are so close together and in different parts of country that I would call this a tie. It makes me wonder, though, how many other programs are out there like this?
I tend to not hire CompSci or CompE students from this program because as entry level hires they have incredibly unrealistic expectations about their first job. They all want to transition to management right away before cutting their teeth on engineering design. So we tend to skip them over when we get resumes.
This doesn't make any sense. Really. Let's start with how many you've hired... it's my understanding that we've hired the most from the program (12-15 I believe), and that's not a problem we see.
Second, what you're saying is that these students you hire from JDE are dissatisfied with you. That's more your problem than it is theirs. If, as you say, these kids have such unreasonable expectations, the as a good recruiter you should have picked up on that with their questions about future opportunities at your company. You know, a student would ask "how long until I become a manager?" -- yes, I have heard such questions -- and that should be a red flag. You should have picked up on the issue during the hiring process and either reset expectations there or passed.
Third, what kind of work do they do as engineers? Wanting to go to management tells me nothing of their performance. From what I can guess, they're probably rocking it hard at your company but you're failing to reward them. So they leave. This is normal human behavior that happens e
In fact Microsoft has entire labs full of Linux machines (they believe that one should know one's enemy)
I know I'll get modded down for this, but I get tired of this anti-Microsoft stuff after a while. Sure, Microsoft isn't my favorite corporation, but recently I've been impressed by SharePoint officially supporting Firefox. I know it took them a while, but can we at least give them credit for trying?
Anyway, about those labs. Microsoft doesn't use them to steal great Linux innovations. There isn't a whole team of monkeys beating away at Linux secrets. Heck, there's enough postings on this site for the average Slashdotter to know what's hot (read: Ubuntu). Actually, the vast majority of employees are forbidden from even looking at open source code. The company fears that some of that code (or code inspired by it) may make its way into Microsoft code, which would be a total disaster for them.
The Microsoft of today uses those labs for compatibility testing. No joke. Interop testing is top priority for many Microsoft products. For example, the network protocol team tests its implementation of the IPV6 stack against a whole bunch of unix and solaris boxes. I've heard from a buddy that they've found bugs in both Windows and Linux. The company has a 3rd party notify the Linux community about the bugs. Microsoft recognizes that Windows servers aren't worth a damn if they can't talk to everyone.
Stop the hate and recognize this is a company that's trying to preserve its own self interest. That's it's job in a capitalist society.
Has anyone else found it interesting that the API (except for pictures) only allows read operations. You can't update your profile, for example. I've always wondered why they did that until I realized a competitor could prop up with the feature "push your data to facebook, myspace, etc. automatically". I would suspect such a competitor would need an API like this to offer that feature. The competitor would then get the advertising revenue and people would be willing to switch for must-have-feature X without losing the strong network externality of facebook. Plus the competitor would now "own" the data, which is valuable in of itself.
Then again, they probably want to keep people like me from flooding the news feed with spurious edits. Joe changed his quote to "1", to "2", "3",....
But isn't this one of the beauties of open source software? I mean, part of me wishes that the dvd-x copy code will mysteriously appear on the internet so that legal injunctions and all that other bs turns worthless. Fair use, in my humble opinion, means legal backups.
I want nothing more than to see those MPAA executives gasp when they find out this "evil" software is widespread and free...
It should be highlighted that this is a beta version of proprietary software.
From their site, "During the beta period Skype is free and helps us to refine and improve our product. Eventually, some features and services of Skype will require a paid subscription or prepayment."
I for one am not willing to take the chance on which features become subscription. The GPL has spoiled me. I will stick with gaim.
About Green Hills Software, they develop "various avionics systems for commercial and military aircraft."
I would believe in the security threat too if my company was competing against open source software for military contracts. Follow the money. Does he also believe that hardware will be free too? Give me a break. Open source is proven and reliable. See Linux, Apache, Sendmail, et al.
Is SourceForge not an option for this guy? That should relieve present/future hosting costs
I also looked around on the site for the license... is grsecurity released under the GPL? If so, how will it "cease to exist?" I thought the whole point of GPL/OSS was to prevent that sort of thing from happening.
If he didn't release it under the GPL/OSS license, then I have as much pity for the man as I would for MS losing its "sponsors."
If they had pulled me up with my first essay at the beginning and warned me of the problems and consequences, it would be fair enough."
Isn't it wrong every time? And not just the first time? I don't get this logic, but maybe it's because I'm a CS student. Those English people are a different breed.
I'm glad they caught him: I've been putting up with his types at college for the past two years. At times I feel like I'm the only one *learning* something.
According to them, Half Life 2, for example, will only be successful because of the original HL's success.
Have they heard of the new speech-mapping engine? Have they read anything about the new rag-doll graphics engine and "materials"? Have they even seen the E3 video of HL2?
These people are trying to downplay success in an attemp to make themselves feel good about not being as smart as Valve, Bungie, etc. HL2, Halo 2, etc. will be successful because they are good games in their own rights. They have plenty of creativity on their own and I believe they would sell about as many copies as if they were originals. Their predecessors are merely useful for name recognition, but nothing more. After all, there are plenty of games that take off without cult followings in place.
I just hope they quit before they start saying really stupid things. I don't want to hear about another top-ten list...
As a national merit finalist and an active student leader, I have been offered full tuition at nearly every public university in my region. I am genuinely interested in Computer Science and I plan on studying it next in college because I enjoy it.
I think it's a good thing that I will join a group of people who also enjoy the subject, and who are not money-grubbers looking for a quick job like other majors.
We smarter-than-average people like being challeneged, and we only will find true challenges in areas that we care about. It is hard to care about classes with 500 kids in them, though now it seems there will be only 400. So we undoubtedly will enjoy these smaller departments, and our enthusiasm should encourage other talented applicants to apply.
It won't hurt that I'll have fewer people to take out;)
They would control the two most populat browsers [...] the two most popular chat clients [...] and two popular music/video clients.
While this is true, US Antitrust law is specifically designed to prevent price controls and stifling innovation, not mergers in general. Since none of the products you listed costs money, and are all freely available, the DOJ will have another hard time proving their case. This same issue is why the original MS antitrust lawsuit all but failed.
I'm not for a merger (although it would be easier to hate one company than two), the market share issue will come down to the ISP business in my opinion.
The fact that Mythica (Online) is affected seems interesting to me. I can't help but remember how Microsoft's Mythica suffered a similar fate very recently. Is this a sign of poor performance in the online gaming industry, or is simply a "normal, healthy" restructuring of a company. While coming from the background of a high school student who has limited experience with MMORPGs, I find it hard to believe that this move is isolated.
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"Eclipse" is when the Sun is blocked/hidden/occulted by something else. It makes IBM's reasons for funding Eclipse dead obvious.
I completely agree so long as you remember that Eclipse targeted Visual Studio and not Sun. http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Application-Development/Eclipse-Behind-the-Name/
We can release new levels, new stickers, new content...
I'm surprised. ' I thought the whole point of this game was to have paying customers do that for them. While they are at it, may I suggest songs about Feklar?
I'm sorry, I don't quite agree with you. Which company do you work for? How many have you hired that you can make such a broad conclusion?
Disclaimer: I'm pretty familiar with the J.D. Edwards Honors Program (JDE) since my company started working with their students in Design Studio last year. We're doing another two projects this year. My particular office is in Fargo, ND, but we're headquartered in Redmond, WA, and I like to think we have high standards for college hires (anyone ever heard of the manhole question?). Last year we hired 4, and I think we're hoping for another "good crop" this year.
It [Olin's approach] hardly helps with the overall lack of new students majoring in those subjects at university in the first place.
Why do you say that? JDE's initial classes suffered from the same problem that all cs/engineering fields suffer from: lack of women. However, in the past 3 years, since the program started making a name for itself in the region, the incoming classes have shifted from 15% women to 40%. If you look at Olin's student profiles, you'll see their classes ranged 40-50% women. I think that's pretty amazing, and it's evidence that programs like these can attract new students.
Anytime a program/college/university realizes that the real-world is interdisciplinary, I think it's a win for students and industry. I happen to hope the academics merge computer science/engineering and business because that's valuable to me, but that's not the only potent combination.
This program is an interesting experiment at an elite school.
Really? According to Olin's wiki article, it is a standalone school only affiliated with area schools to share services (like safety and athletics). If you're referring to JDE, at 10 years old it's neither an experiment nor at an elite school (Nebraska is a good school, but still is no Harvard).
The other problem I have with it is that the ideas espoused are not terribly new.
Again, reading Olin's wiki article and and JDE's wiki article, it seems Olin was founded in 1997 and JDE was founded in 1998. So, Olin's "technically" first, but the start dates are so close together and in different parts of country that I would call this a tie. It makes me wonder, though, how many other programs are out there like this?
I tend to not hire CompSci or CompE students from this program because as entry level hires they have incredibly unrealistic expectations about their first job. They all want to transition to management right away before cutting their teeth on engineering design. So we tend to skip them over when we get resumes.
This doesn't make any sense. Really. Let's start with how many you've hired... it's my understanding that we've hired the most from the program (12-15 I believe), and that's not a problem we see.
Second, what you're saying is that these students you hire from JDE are dissatisfied with you. That's more your problem than it is theirs. If, as you say, these kids have such unreasonable expectations, the as a good recruiter you should have picked up on that with their questions about future opportunities at your company. You know, a student would ask "how long until I become a manager?" -- yes, I have heard such questions -- and that should be a red flag. You should have picked up on the issue during the hiring process and either reset expectations there or passed.
Third, what kind of work do they do as engineers? Wanting to go to management tells me nothing of their performance. From what I can guess, they're probably rocking it hard at your company but you're failing to reward them. So they leave. This is normal human behavior that happens e
I know I'll get modded down for this, but I get tired of this anti-Microsoft stuff after a while. Sure, Microsoft isn't my favorite corporation, but recently I've been impressed by SharePoint officially supporting Firefox. I know it took them a while, but can we at least give them credit for trying?
Anyway, about those labs. Microsoft doesn't use them to steal great Linux innovations. There isn't a whole team of monkeys beating away at Linux secrets. Heck, there's enough postings on this site for the average Slashdotter to know what's hot (read: Ubuntu). Actually, the vast majority of employees are forbidden from even looking at open source code. The company fears that some of that code (or code inspired by it) may make its way into Microsoft code, which would be a total disaster for them.
The Microsoft of today uses those labs for compatibility testing. No joke. Interop testing is top priority for many Microsoft products. For example, the network protocol team tests its implementation of the IPV6 stack against a whole bunch of unix and solaris boxes. I've heard from a buddy that they've found bugs in both Windows and Linux. The company has a 3rd party notify the Linux community about the bugs. Microsoft recognizes that Windows servers aren't worth a damn if they can't talk to everyone.
Stop the hate and recognize this is a company that's trying to preserve its own self interest. That's it's job in a capitalist society.
Has anyone else found it interesting that the API (except for pictures) only allows read operations. You can't update your profile, for example. I've always wondered why they did that until I realized a competitor could prop up with the feature "push your data to facebook, myspace, etc. automatically". I would suspect such a competitor would need an API like this to offer that feature. The competitor would then get the advertising revenue and people would be willing to switch for must-have-feature X without losing the strong network externality of facebook. Plus the competitor would now "own" the data, which is valuable in of itself. Then again, they probably want to keep people like me from flooding the news feed with spurious edits. Joe changed his quote to "1", to "2", "3",....
those who use the word "freedom" the most frequently seem to have no fucking clue what it actually means
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
First they want the records, next they want to improve the records...
I'm not trolling (despite my horrible karma)...
But isn't this one of the beauties of open source software? I mean, part of me wishes that the dvd-x copy code will mysteriously appear on the internet so that legal injunctions and all that other bs turns worthless. Fair use, in my humble opinion, means legal backups.
I want nothing more than to see those MPAA executives gasp when they find out this "evil" software is widespread and free...
It should be highlighted that this is a beta version of proprietary software.
From their site,
"During the beta period Skype is free and helps us to refine and improve our product. Eventually, some features and services of Skype will require a paid subscription or prepayment."
I for one am not willing to take the chance on which features become subscription. The GPL has spoiled me. I will stick with gaim.
About Green Hills Software, they develop "various avionics systems for commercial and military aircraft."
I would believe in the security threat too if my company was competing against open source software for military contracts. Follow the money. Does he also believe that hardware will be free too? Give me a break. Open source is proven and reliable. See Linux, Apache, Sendmail, et al.
I may be biased, but Perl is robust.
You can start her off with very simple line-by-line programming (e.g. print "Hello World") and progress toward to structures.
Perl has the added benefit that it has instant gratification, little object-orientation, and above all is free. This is the Windows version.
If there still is any doubt, I taught myself to programming reading the camel book in middle school. It is very beginner friendly!
Is SourceForge not an option for this guy? That should relieve present/future hosting costs
I also looked around on the site for the license... is grsecurity released under the GPL? If so, how will it "cease to exist?" I thought the whole point of GPL/OSS was to prevent that sort of thing from happening.
If he didn't release it under the GPL/OSS license, then I have as much pity for the man as I would for MS losing its "sponsors."
She's right. Linux is bad for us. Big Brother is good for us. And I also have a PhD and publish BS.
These people miss the point and are wrong.
According to them, Half Life 2, for example, will only be successful because of the original HL's success.
Have they heard of the new speech-mapping engine? Have they read anything about the new rag-doll graphics engine and "materials"? Have they even seen the E3 video of HL2?
These people are trying to downplay success in an attemp to make themselves feel good about not being as smart as Valve, Bungie, etc. HL2, Halo 2, etc. will be successful because they are good games in their own rights. They have plenty of creativity on their own and I believe they would sell about as many copies as if they were originals. Their predecessors are merely useful for name recognition, but nothing more. After all, there are plenty of games that take off without cult followings in place.
I just hope they quit before they start saying really stupid things. I don't want to hear about another top-ten list...
I think your theory is correct.
;)
As a national merit finalist and an active student leader, I have been offered full tuition at nearly every public university in my region. I am genuinely interested in Computer Science and I plan on studying it next in college because I enjoy it.
I think it's a good thing that I will join a group of people who also enjoy the subject, and who are not money-grubbers looking for a quick job like other majors.
We smarter-than-average people like being challeneged, and we only will find true challenges in areas that we care about. It is hard to care about classes with 500 kids in them, though now it seems there will be only 400. So we undoubtedly will enjoy these smaller departments, and our enthusiasm should encourage other talented applicants to apply.
It won't hurt that I'll have fewer people to take out
They would control the two most populat browsers [...] the two most popular chat clients [...] and two popular music/video clients.
While this is true, US Antitrust law is specifically designed to prevent price controls and stifling innovation, not mergers in general. Since none of the products you listed costs money, and are all freely available, the DOJ will have another hard time proving their case. This same issue is why the original MS antitrust lawsuit all but failed.
I'm not for a merger (although it would be easier to hate one company than two), the market share issue will come down to the ISP business in my opinion.
Amazon should have patented animals in the rainforest and used the royalties to pay for these open market patents.
I meant Ultima Online from Electronic Arts as the first game and Mythica from Microsoft as the second. Sorry for the confusion.
The fact that Mythica (Online) is affected seems interesting to me. I can't help but remember how Microsoft's Mythica suffered a similar fate very recently. Is this a sign of poor performance in the online gaming industry, or is simply a "normal, healthy" restructuring of a company. While coming from the background of a high school student who has limited experience with MMORPGs, I find it hard to believe that this move is isolated.
See Sublimation Scientists created a word just for this process found on mars and mirrored here on earth. ;)