No. The misunderstanding happens because western scientists don't know how to walk.
You see, western people 'walk' by spilling their center of gravity out of their pelvis by tilting their pelvis forward. They then have to run to keep up with it. This is the normal heel-toe walk.
Now, it's possible to walk while keeping one's center of gravity within the boundaries of the pelvis. You don't get anywhere near as fast as falling forward, which is why it's looked down upon by westerns, it takes too much time.
In proper balanced walking, it's less energy consuming because there isn't so much violent movement happening. Your foot also lowers and raises as a unit, contacting the floor all at once. This allows equal distribution of forces. The center of gravity stays parallel to the ground as well. Tai Chi is the study of the distribution of movement of the tension elements in the tensegritic structure of the human body.
Note, this type of walking only works if you aren't stumbling blindly through life like western society is. Note, this is one of the reasons westerns consume so much energy, i.e., they're constantly stumbling about inefficiently.
If you would like to learn how to walk properly, i.e., efficiently with the least structural damage, practice yoga, the secret is in tadasana. That or study geometry and tensegrity. Both lead to the same place, which will be huge advantages in bi-pedal robot motion. Westerns have raced past the answer, but that's ok, the japanese always bring up the rear and catch the stuff we miss:)
The scary thing, is that it doesn't really make sense in real life. It makes sense in the movies.
It's almost as if it's been scripted to build tension. Not a natural occurence that has tension as a side effect, but like a prop. A hollywood effect. It doesn't matter if there's no reason to cut the wires, or that they can repair them. Cut them and everybody will start to wonder.
umm, i already notated my mistake where i assumed that white space was preserved. It just makes your comment look dumb.
Though i must admit, when i was severely autistic, grammar and syntax, even syllables, didn't make any sense to me. I believe i was still answering questions in grade six with sentence fragments, sans articles no less.
Of course my answers where always correct. Which annoyed the regular children who would write a big long paragraph and get lower marks than my 3-5 word answers.
Oh, how i remember the stream of tears in my advanced classes, as people would gnash their teeth in frustration as their pages and pages of mathematical formulas and work would score lower than my simple answers. Which, unfortunately was my downfall later on. Later on, showing work was 50% of the mark, and detention if no work was shown. I think i racked up over 140 detentions that year. To me, there was no work, there is an equation, there is an answer, why invent all this stuff inbetween?
That just goes to show that you know how your mouse moves better than how your hand and arm move. You don't have to do all that lining up stuff.
When you know where you are, and you know where your arm is, and you know how the gun is aligned in your hand, then yes, you just point and shoot. It's as simple as that. You can make it as incredibly complex as you like though.
I'm a marksman btw. Zen is beginners luck in reverse.
You don't see the elegance of the painter's brush stroke either. You only get to observe the output. How is that any different? The thing that has escaped many art critics is that the beauty of art, it's birthplace, exists in the doing of the art.
Do you read along in your sheet music while listening to Tchaikovsky's Pathetique? We always only observe the output, well, then there's dance you know, and performance art, etc...
Sigh, nothing is objective or subjective, it all depends on how you look at it, objectively or subjectively. They don't exist independently.
Those words do have a defined meaning, just because you don't know them doesn't mean they don't exist. A smart person questions, a fool remains ignorant.
Subjective definitions are more like set theory anyways.
You think it discourages advancement, but having a language to describe things encourages advancement. If i can easily say do A, B, C, and you'll be happy, then that's a good thing. Actually, happiness=being yourself, the hard part of the equation is figuring out who you are:)
But regardless. If you've got morton's toe and i can tell you which tension line to adjust so your foot is more comfortable, then that's a good thing right? How about opening the forehead without botox? Want dimples for your date with that cute guy? How about a six pack? Want to change from ectomorph to mesomorph for the summer? Want to switch from wrestler to boxer? Turn into jelly so you can't get caught in an armbar?
Are you a know it all? You show your ego in your interpretation. Do you always assume first, and question.... wait, do you do any questionning?
I come from an autistic background so my words are designed to be precise. Subjective Technology->technology developed from a subjective understanding of the world, just like Objective Technology->technolody developed from an objective understanding of the world. See, simple isn't it. Not something stupid like morton's law, or broca's area or an einstein-bose condensate. Useless ego labels that have nothing to do with the phenomenon. I think objects should be labeled by what they are, doesn't that make sense?
It would be a god send if there was a re-organization of science, where things get labeled properly so that the name tells you what it is. Maybe drop the latin and greek, new students don't really seem to understand ancient languages so much anymore, and invent a clearly defined set of meta-tags for nouns, verbs, etc...
It would simplify things on the subjective side as well. Every profession has a different set of terms to describe the same sorts of internal struggles and decisions that a person has to make, and how to describe actions to make the person more centered. It'd be nice if we all spoke the same language.
It'd be nice if measurement was done based on the period of the object as well. Science is still a bit ways off for that though. Somebody will have to come up with a unification theory first.
Do you know what subjective means?
We all share the same human body. The scientific method, is a method, it is neither intrinsically geared toward studying the objective nor the subjective reality.
Yoga is subjective tech. There are procedures which, if you follow correctly, consistently lead to the same results. Yoga is the scientific method applied to subjective reality.
So, just like you can build a house by following the plans correctly, which usually requires a specialist:), you can build happiness by following the directions correctly.
Your placebo effect example is not correct. Everything requires both form and substance. The placebo serves as the physical conduit. It's low brow shamanism.
It all depends if the person was a geek or a jock. Geeks will remember all the music, and can play it beautifully in their head, but will always seem to miss some detail. The uncanny valley. Jocks can play it nicely, but divide it up in pieces? How do you divide something that is whole?
About comunicating experiences. Perhaps you have been using the wrong tools to communicate with?
Zen is being whole. Thought is divisive. Speech is divisive. How can you speak about wholeness when your underlying communication is one of division?
When you become whole, then you know what to do. In fact, there is nothing else to do, for everything else is divisive.
Words are fine to communicate data, a harmonious body, sort of like an einstein-bose condensate (when every piece realizes it is One), can communicate experience.
Your conclusions are flawed because they only take into account your divisive viewpoint. What else can we do when that is how we've been taught to live? Who will be the first to stand and say 'I am not me, I am not you, we are us.'
You keep forgetting we don't live in an ideal world. You see, it's run by these greedy corrupt things called humans.
So, yes some herbal remedies become medicines, because there's a profit in it! There are some herbal remedies that are equally effective but require no refining therefore no profit. Corporations don't chase those because what good is it if you could just grow the remedy and make tea?
People wouldn't pay $90 for a bag of flowers, but they will pay $90 for 10 pills.
Marketing 101, blackbox your product and people will pay more for it, and will feel the need to pay more for it because they don't understand it.
Or just more convenient, who wants to go bark hunting when you can just pick up some aspirin at the drugstore?
Chi is the force that arises when the tension/compression members in the body come into alignment. It is simply surplus energy in a efficiently tuned machine.
Hard for most people to understand, because very few people have a finely tuned system. As soon as too much slack or compression arises in a member, and the structure loses it's internal integrity, that's when you don't feel chi anymore. That's when you feel tension in your fascia.
People can question that all they want. Words allow people to do weird things, like talk about things they have no experience of. We're stuck in a society of complex ideas where few, if any, really have had Experience of the simple ideas. I assume, and hope, that society will correct this in the next 5-10 years. You know, as we continue the trend of computer programmers who don't have computers at home.
Scientific research is affected by the minds of those doing the research however. What they can't understand or see, they can't take into account.
Let's say that accupressure points happen to be minor control centers that deal with balance in the tensengritic structure of the human body. As a mechanical structure, a body that is out of whack will respond less or more due to how it's out of whack. Now, consider that almost all the western population is out of whack, (try and find a grown adult who can squat to defecate), what do you think the test results are going to show?
The problem is that we're dealing with Tech that we are nowhere close to understanding subjectively. You see, acupuncture, chi, meridians, prana, nadis, all of this is Subjective Technology. Westerners are basically still in the toddler stage of subjective development.
Sure, we're pretty advanced in Objective Tech, but we're still stupid enough not to understand anything about consequences.
You'll see. Somebody will come along and marry both together. After all, objectivity and subjectivity meet in the human body.
Hell, scientists had to use cadavers to try and find the human body's center of gravity!
Do you understand the significance of that? They could not feel their own center of gravity! Objective scientists are not the best ones to be studying subjective tech.
You are like the blind man questionning the veracity of what the sighted has seen.
Yes, it's true science didn't know this. You do know we were able to perceive before science don't you? Just because your ability to perceive is immature doesn't mean that others with more developed perception wouldn't KNOW this. Remember, science is guessing, living is knowing. When you're adept enough to perceive the atomic structure of the universe, then let's discuss if it's so hard to understand the subjective knowing of the cerebellum.
Oh please, like anybody can be an authority on anything. Sorry, there are no gods. At least, not yet:)
That might work in highschool, but it doesn't work in science.
Does it really matter? Everybody knows what i mean. We're just humans having a conversation, not writing stuffy crap for scientific journals:)
Is anybody seriously going to argue that the US doesn't have pointless make work projects? Well, not totally pointless, generally good if they increase consumption:)
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What about using a lens like a lighthouse. Some lighthouses use 40W bulbs. I know nothing about lighthouse lenses :)
You see, western people 'walk' by spilling their center of gravity out of their pelvis by tilting their pelvis forward. They then have to run to keep up with it. This is the normal heel-toe walk.
Now, it's possible to walk while keeping one's center of gravity within the boundaries of the pelvis. You don't get anywhere near as fast as falling forward, which is why it's looked down upon by westerns, it takes too much time.
In proper balanced walking, it's less energy consuming because there isn't so much violent movement happening. Your foot also lowers and raises as a unit, contacting the floor all at once. This allows equal distribution of forces. The center of gravity stays parallel to the ground as well. Tai Chi is the study of the distribution of movement of the tension elements in the tensegritic structure of the human body.
Note, this type of walking only works if you aren't stumbling blindly through life like western society is. Note, this is one of the reasons westerns consume so much energy, i.e., they're constantly stumbling about inefficiently.
If you would like to learn how to walk properly, i.e., efficiently with the least structural damage, practice yoga, the secret is in tadasana. That or study geometry and tensegrity. Both lead to the same place, which will be huge advantages in bi-pedal robot motion. Westerns have raced past the answer, but that's ok, the japanese always bring up the rear and catch the stuff we miss :)
Bravo. Well done on the arguing. You do know colour only exists in the brain right?
It's almost as if it's been scripted to build tension. Not a natural occurence that has tension as a side effect, but like a prop. A hollywood effect. It doesn't matter if there's no reason to cut the wires, or that they can repair them. Cut them and everybody will start to wonder.
1, 2, 3, 4....??? And the tension builds.
What's coming next?
You're talking about technology and a scripting language.
How long do you think you'll still be using the same scripts?
Though i must admit, when i was severely autistic, grammar and syntax, even syllables, didn't make any sense to me. I believe i was still answering questions in grade six with sentence fragments, sans articles no less.
Of course my answers where always correct. Which annoyed the regular children who would write a big long paragraph and get lower marks than my 3-5 word answers.
Oh, how i remember the stream of tears in my advanced classes, as people would gnash their teeth in frustration as their pages and pages of mathematical formulas and work would score lower than my simple answers. Which, unfortunately was my downfall later on. Later on, showing work was 50% of the mark, and detention if no work was shown. I think i racked up over 140 detentions that year. To me, there was no work, there is an equation, there is an answer, why invent all this stuff inbetween?
When you know where you are, and you know where your arm is, and you know how the gun is aligned in your hand, then yes, you just point and shoot. It's as simple as that. You can make it as incredibly complex as you like though.
I'm a marksman btw. Zen is beginners luck in reverse.
Do you read along in your sheet music while listening to Tchaikovsky's Pathetique? We always only observe the output, well, then there's dance you know, and performance art, etc...
Anyways. Your argument flawed.
wow, i guess white space isn't preserved :(
hmm, an edit feature would be nice
Sigh, nothing is objective or subjective, it all depends on how you look at it, objectively or subjectively. They don't exist independently. Those words do have a defined meaning, just because you don't know them doesn't mean they don't exist. A smart person questions, a fool remains ignorant. Subjective definitions are more like set theory anyways. You think it discourages advancement, but having a language to describe things encourages advancement. If i can easily say do A, B, C, and you'll be happy, then that's a good thing. Actually, happiness=being yourself, the hard part of the equation is figuring out who you are :)
But regardless. If you've got morton's toe and i can tell you which tension line to adjust so your foot is more comfortable, then that's a good thing right? How about opening the forehead without botox? Want dimples for your date with that cute guy? How about a six pack? Want to change from ectomorph to mesomorph for the summer? Want to switch from wrestler to boxer? Turn into jelly so you can't get caught in an armbar?
Are you a know it all? You show your ego in your interpretation. Do you always assume first, and question.... wait, do you do any questionning?
I come from an autistic background so my words are designed to be precise. Subjective Technology->technology developed from a subjective understanding of the world, just like Objective Technology->technolody developed from an objective understanding of the world. See, simple isn't it. Not something stupid like morton's law, or broca's area or an einstein-bose condensate. Useless ego labels that have nothing to do with the phenomenon. I think objects should be labeled by what they are, doesn't that make sense?
It would be a god send if there was a re-organization of science, where things get labeled properly so that the name tells you what it is. Maybe drop the latin and greek, new students don't really seem to understand ancient languages so much anymore, and invent a clearly defined set of meta-tags for nouns, verbs, etc...
It would simplify things on the subjective side as well. Every profession has a different set of terms to describe the same sorts of internal struggles and decisions that a person has to make, and how to describe actions to make the person more centered. It'd be nice if we all spoke the same language.
It'd be nice if measurement was done based on the period of the object as well. Science is still a bit ways off for that though. Somebody will have to come up with a unification theory first.
Do you know what subjective means? We all share the same human body. The scientific method, is a method, it is neither intrinsically geared toward studying the objective nor the subjective reality. Yoga is subjective tech. There are procedures which, if you follow correctly, consistently lead to the same results. Yoga is the scientific method applied to subjective reality. So, just like you can build a house by following the plans correctly, which usually requires a specialist :), you can build happiness by following the directions correctly.
Your placebo effect example is not correct. Everything requires both form and substance. The placebo serves as the physical conduit. It's low brow shamanism.
Life is one big cosmic joke. I like to participate when i can :)
I thought it was rich in irony :) After all, what's the purpose of this site?
It all depends if the person was a geek or a jock. Geeks will remember all the music, and can play it beautifully in their head, but will always seem to miss some detail. The uncanny valley. Jocks can play it nicely, but divide it up in pieces? How do you divide something that is whole?
About comunicating experiences. Perhaps you have been using the wrong tools to communicate with? Zen is being whole. Thought is divisive. Speech is divisive. How can you speak about wholeness when your underlying communication is one of division? When you become whole, then you know what to do. In fact, there is nothing else to do, for everything else is divisive. Words are fine to communicate data, a harmonious body, sort of like an einstein-bose condensate (when every piece realizes it is One), can communicate experience. Your conclusions are flawed because they only take into account your divisive viewpoint. What else can we do when that is how we've been taught to live? Who will be the first to stand and say 'I am not me, I am not you, we are us.'
You keep forgetting we don't live in an ideal world. You see, it's run by these greedy corrupt things called humans. So, yes some herbal remedies become medicines, because there's a profit in it! There are some herbal remedies that are equally effective but require no refining therefore no profit. Corporations don't chase those because what good is it if you could just grow the remedy and make tea? People wouldn't pay $90 for a bag of flowers, but they will pay $90 for 10 pills. Marketing 101, blackbox your product and people will pay more for it, and will feel the need to pay more for it because they don't understand it. Or just more convenient, who wants to go bark hunting when you can just pick up some aspirin at the drugstore?
Chi is the force that arises when the tension/compression members in the body come into alignment. It is simply surplus energy in a efficiently tuned machine. Hard for most people to understand, because very few people have a finely tuned system. As soon as too much slack or compression arises in a member, and the structure loses it's internal integrity, that's when you don't feel chi anymore. That's when you feel tension in your fascia. People can question that all they want. Words allow people to do weird things, like talk about things they have no experience of. We're stuck in a society of complex ideas where few, if any, really have had Experience of the simple ideas. I assume, and hope, that society will correct this in the next 5-10 years. You know, as we continue the trend of computer programmers who don't have computers at home.
Scientific research is affected by the minds of those doing the research however. What they can't understand or see, they can't take into account. Let's say that accupressure points happen to be minor control centers that deal with balance in the tensengritic structure of the human body. As a mechanical structure, a body that is out of whack will respond less or more due to how it's out of whack. Now, consider that almost all the western population is out of whack, (try and find a grown adult who can squat to defecate), what do you think the test results are going to show? The problem is that we're dealing with Tech that we are nowhere close to understanding subjectively. You see, acupuncture, chi, meridians, prana, nadis, all of this is Subjective Technology. Westerners are basically still in the toddler stage of subjective development. Sure, we're pretty advanced in Objective Tech, but we're still stupid enough not to understand anything about consequences. You'll see. Somebody will come along and marry both together. After all, objectivity and subjectivity meet in the human body. Hell, scientists had to use cadavers to try and find the human body's center of gravity! Do you understand the significance of that? They could not feel their own center of gravity! Objective scientists are not the best ones to be studying subjective tech.
You are like the blind man questionning the veracity of what the sighted has seen. Yes, it's true science didn't know this. You do know we were able to perceive before science don't you? Just because your ability to perceive is immature doesn't mean that others with more developed perception wouldn't KNOW this. Remember, science is guessing, living is knowing. When you're adept enough to perceive the atomic structure of the universe, then let's discuss if it's so hard to understand the subjective knowing of the cerebellum.
No, i encourage people not to commit the fallacy of genus, which really is a separate issue. I'm encouraging skepticism regardless of source.
Thanks, maybe i'll check it out.
Truth is an essential part of FUD, or else it wouldn't really work.
No, i made that sentence up.:) Apparently the truth and the humour of the sentence have bypassed you.
Oh please, like anybody can be an authority on anything. Sorry, there are no gods. At least, not yet :)
That might work in highschool, but it doesn't work in science.
Does it really matter? Everybody knows what i mean. We're just humans having a conversation, not writing stuffy crap for scientific journals :)
Is anybody seriously going to argue that the US doesn't have pointless make work projects? Well, not totally pointless, generally good if they increase consumption :)
Nope, American foreign policy. Why is everybody so literal? It's the same old story from different viewpoints in society. Still the same story.