I beg to differ. I am currently an employee in one of those pharma companies, and so is my father. My father deals with the FDA directly, and the arguments you give may be true, but the peolpe my father has ever dealt with allowed what they did based on the data the companies presented. If they allowed products with no effect, it's because the data was false, and the FDA assumed the company had performed internal checks on the studies. If it later proves to be fabricated or distorted evidence, I believe the company is fined, big time, even though it doesn't make it into the news.
looks like it yeah. I've heard lots about the people at the FDA, and how they know their medical stuff, but unfortunately for them, computers aren't like people, there's no compromise to be made as in the case of drugs. Maybe the government should create an agency which will take care of all computer related needs/problems for other government agencies?
before we make property claims like that, I'd like to know how lawyers would react if we suddenly discovered that we were not the only intelligent creatures in the universe. Worse, a stargate scenario, where aliens have claimed our solar system for a couple of millenia and haven't bothered to set any base or observation post. What would happen also, if someone were to claim a random star system that was later discovered to be inhabited by aliens with a much higher technology than ours? Before making land claims I'd like to know whether or not we're alone in this galaxy. If we are, fine, if not, we'll have to make a galactic summit and decision of how to do it.
no, I see the left as the last ditch of common sense in this country. If the right wins again, I'm out. I'd rather fight this government openly from the outside than covertly from the inside. that's called a moral principle. Something Bush and his cronies seem to lack entirely. In fact, in my opinion, the biggest terrorist threat in the world right now resides in the White House.
there's a limit to pragmatism, and a beginning of moral. The constitution was set by people who fought, and yes, DIED for it. If now we're going to repeal that constitution 200 years later, then what did they die for? Weed?
Please, if only we heard how many people were actually part of Al Quaeda that they caught with those measures it wouldn't be half as oppressing as it is now. With all these measures, and the law enforcement agencies behind him, Bush is creating a tyrannic government. I really, really hope that people will realize what an emperor he thinks he is by november, because if not, I'm out of the country for good. Besides, weren't Republicans the ones saying that less government was best for a country? Are they now reversing their opinions in a flash???
I think on the open side they're against it, but since 9/11 they're for it. Or at least they say they are... Even though they're not supposed to be. The reps pushed it in, not the democrats. Damn bunch of religious zealots. Soon we won't have the right to flirt with girls without first signing a government list.
uhoh, indeed... sorry 'bout that. I'm at work now, so I guess you'll have to wait 'til I get home to get it. Email me and I'll email it back to you. It'll be much faster. But check out the readme on planetmirror. That's what I started with.
Acpi works fine under linux. You just need to include it in your kernel and not include APM. APM and acpi in the same kernel will in a way cancel each other out. Disable APM to get acpi. It works on my HP laptop fine, as well as CPU throttling.Of course, since I've only used 2.6 kernels I can't guarantee on how it works with the 2.4 series.
that's why I don't use XFree but Xorg, because it'll provide more support for those things faster than in XFree. And also because of the license change. And, no, I haven't tried it, but what's xinemara for otherwise?
ok, found it. Read through the thread, should give you an idea of what needs to be done. I don't know which distro you run, but the tarball should work for any distro. There are rpms for rpm based distros though, so have fun. The readme on the site sould explain it all.
sure, lemme find the thread on the gentoo forums... one easy way to find an easy setup assistant is http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/radeonigp/ The tarball contains a script to run as root that'll install every module and compile the kernel modules for you, then you need to edit your xorg/XF86Config file to add the DRI section.
Linux isn't only ready for the desktop, it's ready for the laptop too!!!
And I also have an HP laptop which I'm happy about, where gentoo runs without any trouble on "standard" laptop parts. Only tricky bit was getting the DRI to work with the radeon mobility u1, but even that was easy. Go HP!
I've had my HP Pavilion Ze4400 (customized) for about a whole year now, and I've been going from LA to Boston regularly, which is a 6 hour flight. I have never felt the need for a bigger battery than what I have, as my laptop lasts (if only editing text in openoffice) about 4 hours. When watching a DVD, well, don't expect to watch the whole Titanic movie, but you can watch a regular movie of 2 hours easily, and even the bonus features too, with the brightness at full. My father has a Compaq laptop for his job, and he gets about the same battery life. So, here's personal experience: HP/Compaq Li-ion batteries last long enough for people to be happy. I heard that iBooks have up to 6 hours battery life, but I'm no apple fan myself. Look into that too.
this is what I posted on his article, on designnews itself, where I'm sure he will read it:
In theory, of course, you're totally right in believing this. In practice, however, you're inescapibly wrong. First, since Linux is open source, the army implementing these linux embedded systems most likely read through the code to verify it's normal behavior and lack of serious design flaws, second, terrorists nowadays do not use computers for fear of being traced by the NSA or CIA with the net, thus preventing themselves from ever contributing code to Linux. Third and last, the linux kernel development team has now a signature follow-up on the internet, to make sure that each piece of code can be traced back to it's original author. It makes it that much easier to locate the developpers of Linux. Many of them are in countries that you failed to mention, like Japan, Australia, Finland and many other western countries that the US government trusts. Besides that, the open-source community is the best bug-tracking-solving community in the world. I believe it has happened for the webserver apache when the new version was shipped out with a security flaw less than an hour later the bug was traced in the code and a patch submitted. So, even in the case of a security flaw in the linux kernel, I believe that in less than 35 minutes the army computer specialists would be able to trace and fix the flaw. And those security flaws are precisely the reason the army orders pre-series of each equipment they will use and test them for a few months with anything that they're expected to meet in combat zone, one of them being loss of OS stability, control or even total power failure and recovery. You have only looked at the theoretical part of the problem, and propose no solution to the problems you see, therefore I consider your article a big rant against opensource, not constructive criticism, which in my opinion would be true partiotism.
I'm reading this lengthy thread from a pharmaceutical company research lab, near LA. And, yes, even though it's win2k I still had the guts to call the computer department and demand firefox be installed on my workstation. I'm glad I did though. I get to visit sites the other don't because of IE security flaws;)
this is a little testimony that my high-school (or rather ex-high-school) also replaced it's computer park, but instead of buying entirely new machines all running windows which they didn't have the money for, they offered a total switch to linux (http://network.gouldacademy.org), and for that they received machines from IBM, and were able to recycle their old ones using the Linux Terminal Server Project (http://www.ltsp.org). So, the school's infrastructure is totally running linux, from the admission's office to the student terminals. Of course, the fact that the technology department head is an MIT graduate might help explain why the unix influence is so strong there. I heard students bitching about how Linux sucked, but when they heard the stories of how it was to manage a park with mixed machines of windows 3.11, win95, 98 and 2000, they stopped bitching and admired how stable it was. In the dorms, every student is allowed to bring whichever machine he feels like. The problem is, for people who don't own computers (they still exist) or have never used one (they also still exist) they only see Linux. Now this may be a good thing, or a bad thing. Teach people how to use one thing, they'll have trouble learning something else. I just think that having a park full of windows machines is just a gateway to killing computers. Even in a corporate environment using only win2k we get so much crap that goes through firewalls and anti-viruses... But that's just me.
The main reason I see IE on most public/work computers is because it's so poorly written it allows the use of incorrect javascript/html code to be displayed anyway. I installed firefox on my desktop at work, and tried browsing the corporate website, well, the drop-down menus didn't work. Why? because the javascript code is faulty. And staying that way too. So IE in fact encourages people NOT to write proper and clean code, following the standards that the opensource crowd follows. So, most spread indeed, but with so many disadvantages that I don't want to hear about using IE anymore.
I'd like to point out that Linux is just a reinvention of the same wheel as well, so most people do it, even though it's useless. And up until Mac OS 9 they were also doing that... so maybe they just go a tad smarter or had a *nix programmer among a bunch of newly hired people that opened their eyes?
from reading the article, I thought that he was unfair, and should have separated the unix users from the windows users. After all, they are two different worlds. Not only that, but slashdot regroups windows, mac and *nix users altogether. Mixed bunch indeed, but I'd like to see a comparison between mac users and *nix users for one. Also, since MacOSX is based on unix, wouldn't that mean that somehow the people that programmed unix were better than Apple programmers? Evidently Apple wasn't able to come up with a stable OS of it's own and had to find a way of finding a stable one. And for literature's sake, please don't think that people who use abbreviations on slashdot don't know how to type the words they abbreviate. Sometimes, people need to type fast (when your boss is behind you, or you've got work to do) and typing whole words such as Microsoft or Macintosh can take a long time, especially when you don't like one or the other, and need to retype them several times before getting them right.
Maybe we need a literary section on slashdot, that relates to fiction books as well as php, C or Perl manuals to up our score a bit. Ideas anyone?
I often use god@hotmail.com or god@msn.com for "registration" before downloads... (Realplayer for instance). Give that one a google search and have fun!
maybe she's a skanky bitch 'cuz your in front of/. too much... look at her more than at this webpage and she might turn into a really nice person.
I know it's true for my gf...
I think the idea's a good one, even if it's been implemented before (think LTSP or Sun's terminal system). But what scares me is to think of the consequences for all the various OSes... If Intel specifically does that for MS Winblows, then linux is as good as dead for the public. Not to mention Mac OS, the BSDs and other 'nixes... I mean, if it's going to be done, ok, but I wouldn't stay away from gentoo in any other way. And I personally don't mind carrying my gentooed laptop around. I wouldn't use anything else if it wasn't for work. So did I misread something, or not read the important bit? Because I didn't see any mention of what OS would run that...
doesn't always work when the company in question gives users admin rights on their local machine, or does it? I mean, I'm a temp right now, and I've got a desktop with admin privileges on it. My dad works for the same company, and same thing: he has admin rights on his laptop. It allows people to install and choose the software they want to be productive, as long as the format they save to is compatible with other things. And it makes me happier to use Firefox instead of IE on win2k. So as mentioned earlier, it'd have to be disabled in the bios, and lock the bios. But they don't. They trust their employees I guess. Of course, that's one company. Just trying to point out that there is a balance to be found of trust and security policy. Think of someone taking data home to work with, and at home the computer's full of spywares: you end up with a passive information transmission. Not to mention that spywares infest the work environment anyways, the biggest one being in the windows registry at installation! So, for real big security issues, businesses don't use windows, and it won't matter whether you let in ipods or not.
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I beg to differ. I am currently an employee in one of those pharma companies, and so is my father. My father deals with the FDA directly, and the arguments you give may be true, but the peolpe my father has ever dealt with allowed what they did based on the data the companies presented. If they allowed products with no effect, it's because the data was false, and the FDA assumed the company had performed internal checks on the studies. If it later proves to be fabricated or distorted evidence, I believe the company is fined, big time, even though it doesn't make it into the news.
looks like it yeah. I've heard lots about the people at the FDA, and how they know their medical stuff, but unfortunately for them, computers aren't like people, there's no compromise to be made as in the case of drugs. Maybe the government should create an agency which will take care of all computer related needs/problems for other government agencies?
Forget about the actual stargate scenario, and go for a stargate-like scenario. Do you think I make a valid point?
before we make property claims like that, I'd like to know how lawyers would react if we suddenly discovered that we were not the only intelligent creatures in the universe. Worse, a stargate scenario, where aliens have claimed our solar system for a couple of millenia and haven't bothered to set any base or observation post. What would happen also, if someone were to claim a random star system that was later discovered to be inhabited by aliens with a much higher technology than ours? Before making land claims I'd like to know whether or not we're alone in this galaxy. If we are, fine, if not, we'll have to make a galactic summit and decision of how to do it.
no, I see the left as the last ditch of common sense in this country. If the right wins again, I'm out. I'd rather fight this government openly from the outside than covertly from the inside. that's called a moral principle. Something Bush and his cronies seem to lack entirely. In fact, in my opinion, the biggest terrorist threat in the world right now resides in the White House.
there's a limit to pragmatism, and a beginning of moral. The constitution was set by people who fought, and yes, DIED for it. If now we're going to repeal that constitution 200 years later, then what did they die for? Weed? Please, if only we heard how many people were actually part of Al Quaeda that they caught with those measures it wouldn't be half as oppressing as it is now. With all these measures, and the law enforcement agencies behind him, Bush is creating a tyrannic government. I really, really hope that people will realize what an emperor he thinks he is by november, because if not, I'm out of the country for good. Besides, weren't Republicans the ones saying that less government was best for a country? Are they now reversing their opinions in a flash???
I think on the open side they're against it, but since 9/11 they're for it. Or at least they say they are... Even though they're not supposed to be. The reps pushed it in, not the democrats. Damn bunch of religious zealots. Soon we won't have the right to flirt with girls without first signing a government list.
uhoh, indeed... sorry 'bout that. I'm at work now, so I guess you'll have to wait 'til I get home to get it. Email me and I'll email it back to you. It'll be much faster. But check out the readme on planetmirror. That's what I started with.
Acpi works fine under linux. You just need to include it in your kernel and not include APM. APM and acpi in the same kernel will in a way cancel each other out. Disable APM to get acpi. It works on my HP laptop fine, as well as CPU throttling.Of course, since I've only used 2.6 kernels I can't guarantee on how it works with the 2.4 series.
that's why I don't use XFree but Xorg, because it'll provide more support for those things faster than in XFree. And also because of the license change. And, no, I haven't tried it, but what's xinemara for otherwise?
ok, found it. Read through the thread, should give you an idea of what needs to be done. I don't know which distro you run, but the tarball should work for any distro. There are rpms for rpm based distros though, so have fun. The readme on the site sould explain it all.
sure, lemme find the thread on the gentoo forums...e tarball contains a script to run as root that'll install every module and compile the kernel modules for you, then you need to edit your xorg/XF86Config file to add the DRI section.
one easy way to find an easy setup assistant is http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/radeonigp/
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Linux isn't only ready for the desktop, it's ready for the laptop too!!! And I also have an HP laptop which I'm happy about, where gentoo runs without any trouble on "standard" laptop parts. Only tricky bit was getting the DRI to work with the radeon mobility u1, but even that was easy. Go HP!
I've had my HP Pavilion Ze4400 (customized) for about a whole year now, and I've been going from LA to Boston regularly, which is a 6 hour flight. I have never felt the need for a bigger battery than what I have, as my laptop lasts (if only editing text in openoffice) about 4 hours. When watching a DVD, well, don't expect to watch the whole Titanic movie, but you can watch a regular movie of 2 hours easily, and even the bonus features too, with the brightness at full. My father has a Compaq laptop for his job, and he gets about the same battery life. So, here's personal experience: HP/Compaq Li-ion batteries last long enough for people to be happy.
I heard that iBooks have up to 6 hours battery life, but I'm no apple fan myself. Look into that too.
this is what I posted on his article, on designnews itself, where I'm sure he will read it:
In theory, of course, you're totally right in believing this. In practice, however, you're inescapibly wrong. First, since Linux is open source, the army implementing these linux embedded systems most likely read through the code to verify it's normal behavior and lack of serious design flaws, second, terrorists nowadays do not use computers for fear of being traced by the NSA or CIA with the net, thus preventing themselves from ever contributing code to Linux. Third and last, the linux kernel development team has now a signature follow-up on the internet, to make sure that each piece of code can be traced back to it's original author. It makes it that much easier to locate the developpers of Linux. Many of them are in countries that you failed to mention, like Japan, Australia, Finland and many other western countries that the US government trusts. Besides that, the open-source community is the best bug-tracking-solving community in the world. I believe it has happened for the webserver apache when the new version was shipped out with a security flaw less than an hour later the bug was traced in the code and a patch submitted. So, even in the case of a security flaw in the linux kernel, I believe that in less than 35 minutes the army computer specialists would be able to trace and fix the flaw. And those security flaws are precisely the reason the army orders pre-series of each equipment they will use and test them for a few months with anything that they're expected to meet in combat zone, one of them being loss of OS stability, control or even total power failure and recovery. You have only looked at the theoretical part of the problem, and propose no solution to the problems you see, therefore I consider your article a big rant against opensource, not constructive criticism, which in my opinion would be true partiotism.
I'm reading this lengthy thread from a pharmaceutical company research lab, near LA. And, yes, even though it's win2k I still had the guts to call the computer department and demand firefox be installed on my workstation. I'm glad I did though. I get to visit sites the other don't because of IE security flaws ;)
this is a little testimony that my high-school (or rather ex-high-school) also replaced it's computer park, but instead of buying entirely new machines all running windows which they didn't have the money for, they offered a total switch to linux (http://network.gouldacademy.org), and for that they received machines from IBM, and were able to recycle their old ones using the Linux Terminal Server Project (http://www.ltsp.org). So, the school's infrastructure is totally running linux, from the admission's office to the student terminals. Of course, the fact that the technology department head is an MIT graduate might help explain why the unix influence is so strong there. I heard students bitching about how Linux sucked, but when they heard the stories of how it was to manage a park with mixed machines of windows 3.11, win95, 98 and 2000, they stopped bitching and admired how stable it was. In the dorms, every student is allowed to bring whichever machine he feels like. The problem is, for people who don't own computers (they still exist) or have never used one (they also still exist) they only see Linux. Now this may be a good thing, or a bad thing. Teach people how to use one thing, they'll have trouble learning something else. I just think that having a park full of windows machines is just a gateway to killing computers. Even in a corporate environment using only win2k we get so much crap that goes through firewalls and anti-viruses... But that's just me.
The main reason I see IE on most public/work computers is because it's so poorly written it allows the use of incorrect javascript/html code to be displayed anyway. I installed firefox on my desktop at work, and tried browsing the corporate website, well, the drop-down menus didn't work. Why? because the javascript code is faulty. And staying that way too. So IE in fact encourages people NOT to write proper and clean code, following the standards that the opensource crowd follows. So, most spread indeed, but with so many disadvantages that I don't want to hear about using IE anymore.
I'd like to point out that Linux is just a reinvention of the same wheel as well, so most people do it, even though it's useless. And up until Mac OS 9 they were also doing that... so maybe they just go a tad smarter or had a *nix programmer among a bunch of newly hired people that opened their eyes?
from reading the article, I thought that he was unfair, and should have separated the unix users from the windows users. After all, they are two different worlds. Not only that, but slashdot regroups windows, mac and *nix users altogether. Mixed bunch indeed, but I'd like to see a comparison between mac users and *nix users for one. Also, since MacOSX is based on unix, wouldn't that mean that somehow the people that programmed unix were better than Apple programmers? Evidently Apple wasn't able to come up with a stable OS of it's own and had to find a way of finding a stable one. And for literature's sake, please don't think that people who use abbreviations on slashdot don't know how to type the words they abbreviate. Sometimes, people need to type fast (when your boss is behind you, or you've got work to do) and typing whole words such as Microsoft or Macintosh can take a long time, especially when you don't like one or the other, and need to retype them several times before getting them right. Maybe we need a literary section on slashdot, that relates to fiction books as well as php, C or Perl manuals to up our score a bit. Ideas anyone?
I often use god@hotmail.com or god@msn.com for "registration" before downloads... (Realplayer for instance). Give that one a google search and have fun!
that's true... I was just kidding too, no worries
maybe she's a skanky bitch 'cuz your in front of /. too much... look at her more than at this webpage and she might turn into a really nice person.
I know it's true for my gf...
I think the idea's a good one, even if it's been implemented before (think LTSP or Sun's terminal system). But what scares me is to think of the consequences for all the various OSes...
If Intel specifically does that for MS Winblows, then linux is as good as dead for the public. Not to mention Mac OS, the BSDs and other 'nixes... I mean, if it's going to be done, ok, but I wouldn't stay away from gentoo in any other way. And I personally don't mind carrying my gentooed laptop around. I wouldn't use anything else if it wasn't for work. So did I misread something, or not read the important bit? Because I didn't see any mention of what OS would run that...
doesn't always work when the company in question gives users admin rights on their local machine, or does it? I mean, I'm a temp right now, and I've got a desktop with admin privileges on it. My dad works for the same company, and same thing: he has admin rights on his laptop. It allows people to install and choose the software they want to be productive, as long as the format they save to is compatible with other things. And it makes me happier to use Firefox instead of IE on win2k. So as mentioned earlier, it'd have to be disabled in the bios, and lock the bios. But they don't. They trust their employees I guess. Of course, that's one company. Just trying to point out that there is a balance to be found of trust and security policy. Think of someone taking data home to work with, and at home the computer's full of spywares: you end up with a passive information transmission. Not to mention that spywares infest the work environment anyways, the biggest one being in the windows registry at installation! So, for real big security issues, businesses don't use windows, and it won't matter whether you let in ipods or not.