While this data will serve to give certain people reasons to jump up and down and fret, one thing is sure:
This entire thread is irrelevant. The election is over, Kerry conceded rather than pull an AlGore and divide the country further. Kerry should be commended for that. His running mate wanted to begin the lawsuits (surprise of the century, a trial lawyer wants to sue...) but Kerry said no, in is a better statesman for it.
For better or worse, what's done is done. America (and the rest of the World) will have to live with the results.
Was this a treaty in the Terminator movies or something?
I also don't remember the AHIRA Treaty (Anti-Hideous, Inhuman, Robot Army Treaty). If I had the money, rest assured, there'd already be such an army.
And as for weapons in space: I guarantee that when I get there, there will be. I wouldn't launch a spacecraft without a laser/maser/railgun/etc... if only for personal protection. The treaty only applies to governments anyway, so what would keep some benevolent (to the Gov't, anyway) from volunteering to put heavy weaponry in space out of the goodness of their heart? Haliburton comes immediately to mind. Then the treaties can all go hang.
As man (military or civilian) branches out into space, he'll bring his grudges with him. If space is to be the next frontier of Human expansion, man will bring weaponry as well. *I* surely would.
Yes it blocks US citizens overseas from voting, but what Nepalese shrine do you have to go to to find someone undecided on who should run the US? These people have already made their decisions (whether they say so or not) and most have probably already sent their ballots (I'm not sure what the deadline is.)
Find me the "many more tens of thousands" you speak of. I know of very few confirmed cases. And how were these people "supressed?" Because they were purged for being felons? That doesn't hold since there were a much larger number of ACTUAL felons who DID vote than the number who were erroneously purged. According to the reports I heard, the felons who did vote, voted, surprise, predominantly Democrat. What kind of idiot criminal is going to vote for a party who is going to be harder on them?
And being turned away for lack of ID is not disenfranchisement. It is stupidity on the part of the prospective voter. As far as other problems at the polls, most can be resolved by a quick phone call and filling out a VERY simple form saying that you haven't voted anywhere else.
Scanning the answers to the questions, I find myself asking who actually answered them.
I've watched them both many times, and while I can imagine Kerry saying most of that, I don't think he did.
Bush on the other hand: There is no way in hell that those thoughts, embodied by those words, have ever been formed by the mind or lips of the President.
a) offering people crack cocaine to get voters registered. The crackhead in question then filled out all the regs himself with names like "Michael Jordan" to get his crack. This incident was traced back to the NAACP VP in Ohio. And, sure, you can say "That's not the Democrat Party, it's the NAACP," but the purpose was to get people registered Dem.
b) Palm Beach, Broward, Miami-Dade, et. al. where, as I said in another post, northern "visitors", being mostly Democrats in those areas, vote absentee in their home in New York and then vote again in Florida on election day.
The point is that last election, it was a screw up. An unfortunate set of SNAFUs which have likely been happening since the country began, but it took a very close election for them to be noticed.
This time, however, there are people on both sides who, through dealings which are sometimes mearly shady, but often absolutely criminal, are actively trying to screw up the process.
All I hope for is for the margin of victory of whichever of the lying sacks-of-excrement manages to fool enough people to vote for them is large enough that none of the mechinations of their loyal minions make any difference.
None of this means I'm happy with Bush supporters either. The other day, my van broke down and as I sat waiting for a tow, some Kerry folks came and started waving signs on the street corner nearby. On more than one occasion as I sat there minding my own business, was I screamed or cursed at by Bush people who thought I was with the sign-wavers.
Yes, I think they are assholes, too.
Another note: what about the thousands of "snowbirds" who are registered in NY and FL owho are voting absentee up north and voting again in Florida? That HUGE group of people is Democrat by a massive majority. Some of them in fact saying that they have done this for "years." If these people had only voted once, there would have been no question in 2000 and so there wouldn't be this panic now.
It's irrelevant now, as both sides are committing felonies to try to win Florida (and apparently other states as well.)
It will be interesting to hear the outcry when the Congress steps in and uses their Constitutional authority to choose the president and vice-president. Then EVERYBODY gets disenfranchised, and there's nothing the Supreme Court can do about it.
Wonder who'll win THAT election, since both houses are republican-controlled.
I hardly think that the "U.N. Observer" can be cited as a reliable source. They are:
1)misleading people by the fact that they have "U.N." in their name and aren't affiliated. So they are basically "stealing" the credibility of the UN, if it can be said to have any left.
and 2)claiming to be "independant" (often confused with "unbiased") while their language belies their true political bent.
Further the way you stated "Do you know about the recent estimates..." indicated that you unquestionably believe this drivel.
This is worse than F*x News claiming to be "fair and balanced"
I would say that the results of the survey are revealing except that another recent survey in the U.K. indicates that Britons are more afraid of spiders than they are of terrorists.
With M$'s track record for secutiry, I fail to see why everyone's panties are in a bunch. Unfortunately, we should be used to this kind of crap from them by now, not surprised or panicky.
Don't we have an SOP for microsoft security announcements by now?
please don't misread my comment as any sort of assertion that Bush is a better choice.
We can take this discussion of the message board if you'd like. I'd enjoy discussing such things with someone who (I'm gonna go out on a limb here) has a bit deeper brand of intellect than the cretins around where I live.
The thing is, now even if Bush started pronouncing "nuclear" correctly, he'd just be slammed as "trying to look smarter after being criticized" or somesuch.
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Apparently the BBC is among their own statistics, as the definition they give in the article for "Trojan" is wrong.
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Haven't we been testing on this planet for years?
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While this data will serve to give certain people reasons to jump up and down and fret, one thing is sure:
This entire thread is irrelevant. The election is over, Kerry conceded rather than pull an AlGore and divide the country further. Kerry should be commended for that. His running mate wanted to begin the lawsuits (surprise of the century, a trial lawyer wants to sue...) but Kerry said no, in is a better statesman for it.
For better or worse, what's done is done. America (and the rest of the World) will have to live with the results.
Now it's time to move on.
--QTone
Was this a treaty in the Terminator movies or something?
I also don't remember the AHIRA Treaty (Anti-Hideous, Inhuman, Robot Army Treaty). If I had the money, rest assured, there'd already be such an army.
And as for weapons in space: I guarantee that when I get there, there will be. I wouldn't launch a spacecraft without a laser/maser/railgun/etc... if only for personal protection. The treaty only applies to governments anyway, so what would keep some benevolent (to the Gov't, anyway) from volunteering to put heavy weaponry in space out of the goodness of their heart? Haliburton comes immediately to mind. Then the treaties can all go hang.
As man (military or civilian) branches out into space, he'll bring his grudges with him. If space is to be the next frontier of Human expansion, man will bring weaponry as well. *I* surely would.
Can anyone tell I'm in a pissy mood today?
--QTone
Yes it blocks US citizens overseas from voting, but what Nepalese shrine do you have to go to to find someone undecided on who should run the US? These people have already made their decisions (whether they say so or not) and most have probably already sent their ballots (I'm not sure what the deadline is.)
--QTone
Find me the "many more tens of thousands" you speak of. I know of very few confirmed cases. And how were these people "supressed?" Because they were purged for being felons? That doesn't hold since there were a much larger number of ACTUAL felons who DID vote than the number who were erroneously purged. According to the reports I heard, the felons who did vote, voted, surprise, predominantly Democrat. What kind of idiot criminal is going to vote for a party who is going to be harder on them?
And being turned away for lack of ID is not disenfranchisement. It is stupidity on the part of the prospective voter. As far as other problems at the polls, most can be resolved by a quick phone call and filling out a VERY simple form saying that you haven't voted anywhere else.
QTone
Scanning the answers to the questions, I find myself asking who actually answered them.
I've watched them both many times, and while I can imagine Kerry saying most of that, I don't think he did.
Bush on the other hand: There is no way in hell that those thoughts, embodied by those words, have ever been formed by the mind or lips of the President.
Not a chance.
--QTone
a) offering people crack cocaine to get voters registered. The crackhead in question then filled out all the regs himself with names like "Michael Jordan" to get his crack. This incident was traced back to the NAACP VP in Ohio. And, sure, you can say "That's not the Democrat Party, it's the NAACP," but the purpose was to get people registered Dem.
b) Palm Beach, Broward, Miami-Dade, et. al. where, as I said in another post, northern "visitors", being mostly Democrats in those areas, vote absentee in their home in New York and then vote again in Florida on election day.
The point is that last election, it was a screw up. An unfortunate set of SNAFUs which have likely been happening since the country began, but it took a very close election for them to be noticed.
This time, however, there are people on both sides who, through dealings which are sometimes mearly shady, but often absolutely criminal, are actively trying to screw up the process.
All I hope for is for the margin of victory of whichever of the lying sacks-of-excrement manages to fool enough people to vote for them is large enough that none of the mechinations of their loyal minions make any difference.
None of this means I'm happy with Bush supporters either. The other day, my van broke down and as I sat waiting for a tow, some Kerry folks came and started waving signs on the street corner nearby. On more than one occasion as I sat there minding my own business, was I screamed or cursed at by Bush people who thought I was with the sign-wavers.
Yes, I think they are assholes, too.
--QTone
Another note: what about the thousands of "snowbirds" who are registered in NY and FL owho are voting absentee up north and voting again in Florida? That HUGE group of people is Democrat by a massive majority. Some of them in fact saying that they have done this for "years." If these people had only voted once, there would have been no question in 2000 and so there wouldn't be this panic now.
--QTone
It's irrelevant now, as both sides are committing felonies to try to win Florida (and apparently other states as well.)
It will be interesting to hear the outcry when the Congress steps in and uses their Constitutional authority to choose the president and vice-president. Then EVERYBODY gets disenfranchised, and there's nothing the Supreme Court can do about it.
Wonder who'll win THAT election, since both houses are republican-controlled.
QTone
I hardly think that the "U.N. Observer" can be cited as a reliable source. They are:
1)misleading people by the fact that they have "U.N." in their name and aren't affiliated. So they are basically "stealing" the credibility of the UN, if it can be said to have any left.
and 2)claiming to be "independant" (often confused with "unbiased") while their language belies their true political bent.
Further the way you stated "Do you know about the recent estimates..." indicated that you unquestionably believe this drivel.
This is worse than F*x News claiming to be "fair and balanced"
--Qtone
an equal opportunity offender
I would say that the results of the survey are revealing except that another recent survey in the U.K. indicates that Britons are more afraid of spiders than they are of terrorists.
--QTone
With M$'s track record for secutiry, I fail to see why everyone's panties are in a bunch. Unfortunately, we should be used to this kind of crap from them by now, not surprised or panicky.
Don't we have an SOP for microsoft security announcements by now?
--Qtone
please don't misread my comment as any sort of assertion that Bush is a better choice.
We can take this discussion of the message board if you'd like. I'd enjoy discussing such things with someone who (I'm gonna go out on a limb here) has a bit deeper brand of intellect than the cretins around where I live.
The thing is, now even if Bush started pronouncing "nuclear" correctly, he'd just be slammed as "trying to look smarter after being criticized" or somesuch.
--QTone
does a quick statute of limitations calculation...
yeah, that's what I did back in High School...
--QTone
And so, with his ability to be on both sides of every issue, does that make John F. Kerry "Schrodinger's Candidate?"
--Qtone
so, when did people start using the word "architected" instead of "designed?"
It sounds like the release was written by W.
Hmmm... has anything ever just been "Dundant?"
--QTone
... ZFS will also make you forget everything you knew about English grammar.
"We've rethought everything and rearchitected it," says Jeff Bonwick
Rearchitected? WTF? Howsaboot "Redesigned?"
I'm still wrapping my brain around "adaptive endian-ness" as well.
--QTone
SCOsblatter beast... if it can't see Linux, then hopefully neither will you.
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I KNOW you aren't a geek lamenting not getting laid...
I thought it was a given.
-Qtone
The few who know me will get the joke.
--QTone
2 things...
1. If Linux turned 13, this is the 14th year. and
2. Wouldn't it be "Triskadecaphobia"?
--QTone
Does Anal Retentive have a hyphen?
They've finally found a use for the core of the happy fun ball!
Ingredients of Happy Fun Ball include an unknown glowing substance which fell to Earth, presumably from outer space.
-QTone