Happy 13th Birthday Linux!

carlmenezes writes "On August 25, 2001 we celebrated the 10th birthday of Linux. Today, it's year 13. Lucky for Linux, maybe?" Congrats to everyone who managed to get their name in the credits! You must be very proud parents.

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puberty

[nuggetman]

soon its voice will be cracking and hair will be apearing in places it never appeared befeore

Re:puberty

[zymurgy_cat]

don't forget that all the jobs in your crontab file will only get done once a week, but you'll now have to configure them to run every 5 minutes. ps and top will now start outputting things like, "yeah, yeah, i'll get to it later" and "i already did it this week!"

Re:puberty

[Barto]

Ah, so that's why my desktop suddenly messy and the system log is showing frequent "bathroom breaks"

Re:puberty

[RLW]

Don't forget the allowance. Just try to get a teen to do anything around the house with a constant discussion about an allowance or an increase in allowance. Personal Hygiene just became optional. Soon Tux will be covered in peach fuzz and smelling like left over fish with his hand out for more money.

Re:puberty

[doggiesnot]

Ah, they grow up so fast!

You're lucky, when your little penguin is ready for junior/senior prom, at least you won't need to rent a tuxedo.


rm -rf /bin/laden http://andrewhitchcock.org/index.pl?page=binladen

Re:puberty

[b0r0din]

young-man$ rm trash
rm: Aww, Mom! I'll do it later.
young-man$ set TABLE "now"
set: But I did it last week! Ask the Sparc5, I'm busy playing Counterstrike.
young-man$ exec homework
exec: Command failed.
young-man$ write paper
write: paper is not logged on.
young-man$ kill -9 1
NOOOOooooooooooo...

Re:puberty

[EvilTwinSkippy]

And let's not forget look forward to Tux's first $600 phone bill, nor the constant onslaught of "I need a car."

Re:puberty

[Anonymous Coward]

don't forget that all the jobs in your crontab file will only get done once a week

..or of cource, the "cron jobs" will be done way too fast. But that's ok according to the penguinettes - it happens to all of us at some point.. right?

Re:puberty

[Anonymous Coward]

And it'll start downloading pr0n.

Guess we'll soon now whether Linux really is gay...

Re:puberty

[lukewarmfusion]

Before he gets a car, he'll have to pay $699 for a license...

Re:puberty

[Anonymous Coward]

"Why don't you make BSD do the dishes?"

"BSD is just home from Berkeley for the weekend. Now do your chores."

Re:puberty

[Anonymous Coward]

Well, if Linux is a girl she'll get breasts!

Re:puberty

[fr2asbury]

Now depending on what parts of it are just like Unix, it may not have that problem. ;-)

Re:puberty

[phrogeeb]

If you ask me...

It's a shanda that there are like 170 comments on the board and there's not a single mench on here with the nachas to wish our Linux a Mazel Tov on his Bar Miztvah! So I'll be the first - remember, Linux, today you are a Man! (Oy vey I'm getting all shmaltzy.) Now don't get all meshuga about it, but sooner or later it'll be time for us to set you up with a shidduch! Don't worry, I'll keep you away from all the shiksas.
Now, lech bshalom and byom habah byerushalayim!

(Eh? Eh? Any other Jewish geeks?)

Re:puberty

[cshark]

Time for a Bar-Mitzva!
Oy, they grow up so fast.

Re:puberty

[XnR'rn]

Like this Lesbian GNU/Linux?

My Experience with the Linux

[Anonymous Coward]

I work as a consultant for several fortune 500 companies, and I think
I can shed a little light on the climate of the open source community
at the moment. I believe that part of the reason that open source
based startups are failing left and right is not an issue of marketing
as it's commonly believed but more of an issue of the underlying
technology.

I know that that's a strong statement to make, but I have evidence to
back it up! At one of the major corps(5000+ employees) that I consult
for, we wanted to integrate the shareware version of Linux into our
server pool. The allure of not having to pay any restrictive licensing
fees was too great to ignore. I reccomended the installation of
several boxes running the new 2.4.9 kernel, and my hopes were high
that it would perform up to snuff with the Windows 2k boxes which
were(and still are!) doing an AMAZING job at their respective tasks of
serving HTTP requests, DNS, and fileserving.

I consider myself to be very technically inclined having programmed in
VB for the last 8 years doing kernel level programming. I don't
believe in C programming because contrary to popular belief, VB can go
just as low level as C and the newest VB compiler generates code
that's every bit as fast. I took it upon myself to configure the
system from scratch and even used an optimised version of gcc 3.1 to
increase the execution speed of the binaries. I integrated the 3
machines I had configured into the server pool, and I'd have to say
the results were less than impressive... We all know that linux isn't
even close to being ready for the desktop, but I had heard that it was
supposed to perform decently as a "server" based operating system. The
3 machines all went into swap immediately, and it was obvious that
they weren't going to be able to handle the load in this "enterprise"
environment. After running for less than 24 hours, 2 of them had
experienced kernel panics caused by Bind and Apache crashing! Granted,
Apache is a volunteer based project written by weekend hackers in
their spare time while Microsft's IIS has an actual professional full
fledged development team devoted to it. Not to mention the fact that
the Linux kernel itself lacks any support for any type of journaled
filesystem, memory protection, SMP support, etc, but I thought that
since Linux is based on such "old" technology that it would run with
some level of stability. After several days of this type of behaviour,
we decided to reinstall windows 2k on the boxes to make sure it wasn't
a hardware problem that was causing things to go wrong. The machines
instantly shaped up and were seamlessly reintegrated into the server
pool with just one Win2K machine doing more work than all 3 of the
Linux boxes.

Needless to say, I won't be reccomending Linux/FSF to anymore of my
clients. I'm dissappointed that they won't be able to leverege the
free cost of Linux to their advantage, but in this case I suppose the
old adage stands true that, "you get what you pay for." I would have
also liked to have access to the source code of the applications that
we're running on our mission critical systems; however, from the looks
of it, the Microsoft "shared source" program seems to offer all of the
same freedoms as the GPL.

As things stand now, I can understand using Linux in academia to
compile simple "Hello World" style programs and learn C programming,
but I'm afraid that for anything more than a hobby OS, Windows
98/NT/2K are your only choices.

Re:My Experience with the Linux

[KrisCowboy]

Woooow buddy. Here in India, we consider it a bad practise and disrespectful to insult someone on their birthday :) So you a VB programmer, huh? To quote ESR,
Visual Basic is especially awful. Like other Basics it's a poorly-designed language that will teach you bad programming habits. No, don't ask me to describe them in detail; that explanation would fill a book. Learn a well-designed language instead.

So the Linux server crashed, huh? That's a pretty lame excuse. I'm a part-time administator for a server running httpd, file-sharing, DNS and squid. And the uptime is 55 days and still running. Come on buddy, see what we got here :)

Not to mention the fact that the Linux kernel itself lacks any support for any type of journaled filesystem, memory protection, SMP support, etc,

Well well well, what age are you in? What are ext3 and reiferfs? No SMP support? My server is a IBM Xeon Dual processor with hyper-threading. however, from the looks of it, the Microsoft "shared source" program seems to offer all of the same freedoms as the GPL.
You got to be kidding me.
Note to self: Alter the companies for which this anonymous coward does consulting.

Re:My Experience with the Linux

[rben]

I believe that part of the reason that open source based startups are failing left and right is not an issue of marketing as it's commonly believed but more of an issue of the underlying technology. ... I have evidence to back it up!

No, you have a story, that's not evidence. Besides, most of what you say here is wrong either because you are uninformed or deliberately spreading misinformation.

We all know that linux isn't even close to being ready for the desktop

Many of my friends now use Linux as their desktop operating system. I also use Linux as my desktop OS when I'm not playing games. Walmart has started selling Linux equipped PCs which are selling fairly well. The fact is that for the average PC user, Linux will work just fine. There will be a learning curve, but that would be true of any new technology.

After running for less than 24 hours, 2 of them had experienced kernel panics caused by Bind and Apache crashing! Granted, Apache is a volunteer based project written by weekend hackers in their spare time while Microsft's IIS has an actual professional full fledged development team devoted to it.

Given that so many others have been running Bind and Apache for many years without substantial problems, I'd have to say that you probably misconfigured your system.

The "weekend volunteers" that you refer to are some of the finest programmers in the world or the code that they have written is comparable with that written by the best. If they weren't, the code they wrote would not get past the peer reviews and into these popular open source projects. The people who write code for Open Source projects are often the same people who write for the large software development companies. The difference is that they write Open Source code out of love for the work and the project, and the respect of their peers.

While MS might have a "full development team" working on some projects, I doubt they have a full team working on any mature product that isn't undergoing constant new development. What resources they have are devoted to adding marketable features that will bring in additional sales, not necessarily reworking the code in pursuit of engineering excellence.

Not to mention the fact that the Linux kernel itself lacks any support for any type of journaled filesystem, memory protection, SMP support, etc, but I thought that since Linux is based on such "old" technology that it would run with some level of stability.

Again you have demonstrated that you are badly misinformed about Linux. The 2.6 Kernel does in fact have SMP support. There are at least 3 journeling file systems that I can think of off the top of my head, ext3, jfs, and rieserfs.

As for being based on "old technology", Linux has caught up and passed MS. Linux now often incorporates new standards and technologies before the large software companies can even get them on the planning schedule. Linux developers have already put in place buffer overflow protection stipulated by new security standards that Microsoft has endorsed but has been unable to implement to-date. Microsoft hasn't even been able to finish and release it's new security patch, SP2 on-time, leaving millions of PC users vulnerable to viruses, trojans, and other malware. It is truely hard to appreciate just what it means to have thousands of people working on a single project and contributing their enthusiasm and expertise.

There are many places where you can get help on configuring Linux machines. It appears, based on your posting, that you went about it by yourself without much knowledge of Linux. Had you looked for help, I believe you would have had far different results. I suggest you check out The Linux Documentation Project, my own site which is aimed at new Linux users moving over from Windows, and A How To Get Linux HOWTO that I have been working on. Perhaps you'll find that your experience changes when you work with the community rather than on your own.

Re:My Experience with the Linux

[vivekg]

Dude! That was history. (rest /. 's read as trolling of him)

Today linux offer all of the sutff you mentioned earlier.

At one of the major corps(5000+ employees) that I consult....were(and still are!) doing an AMAZING job at their respective tasks of serving HTTP requests, DNS, and fileserving.

Just look at the sites like google.com, slahsdot.org; I am sure they supports more than 5000+ user less than second without any panic.In one of my past experience (RH 7.2 box) ProFTPD server daily servers more than 100-500 users with 35-50 GB data transfer on just Intel Cel 1.3, 512 MB RAM. Same server gets mirrored every day for backup (at midnight in same IDC).

Not to mention the fact that the Linux kernel itself lacks any support for any type of journaled filesystem, memory protection, SMP support, etc

journaled filesystem - Yes linux got it
memory protection - Yes linux got it
SMP support - Yes linux got it
Read Kernel 2.6 Rocks the Enterprise World - http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/reviews/526 3/1/
Did you read Microsoft Found Guilty of Misleading Advertising http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/08/25/115625 3&tid=109

As things stand now, I can understand using Linux in academia to compile simple "Hello World" style programs and learn C programming, but I'm afraid that for anything more than a hobby OS, Windows 98/NT/2K are your only choices.

Yah it rocks with virues, IE bugs and all sorts of things. I'm dam sure within next 5 years people stop dealing with business those rely of buggy Microsoft technologies.

Long live to tux. Happy birthday :)

Re:My Experience with the Linux

[mr_z_beeblebrox]

we wanted to integrate the shareware version of Linux into our server pool.

Which version is that? Did you remember to send in your 15$
I consider myself to be very technically inclined having programmed in VB for the last 8 years doing kernel level programming.

Then you should know that 'technically' VB is not kernel level programming. I think the reason that you failed so amazingly in your project is you put no forethought into it. Yes, the Win 2K servers can handle a decent load (albeit insecurely) and they are so simple to run that even an MCSE can set them up (I have an old MCSE cert so that is not a flame, I know the ed level needed for that and abandoned it long ago). However, the Linux servers are enterprise unix boxes and Apache can run circles around IIS. I hope that fortune 5000 company realizes that you were the problem.
but I'm afraid that for anything more than a hobby OS, Windows 98/NT/2K are your only choices.

Were that the case I would choose to use paper based data processing.

Re:My Experience with the Linux

[Anonymous Coward]

Like, can't you write a new troll? I mean it was a pretty good troll 4 years ago, but lets face it, it is getting long in the tooth. I appreciate the work that went into this (4 years ago), but just cut-n-pasting into the Comment box has got to get old eventually, doesn't it? Come on, it's only 4 paragraphs (one really long(-winded)), but I'm sure if you were really capable, you could have come up with something much, much more current if you would only put in the effort. I know, I know, most writers just get paid to write the same old thing over and over, and you are getting incredible milage out of this same old post (that we've been seeing for the last 4 years). Thing is, these writers, at least, make an effort to re-arrange a couple of the words and sentances to come to the same worn out conclusions. So whatya' say? Care enough to actually put some effort into the trolling process?

Re:My Experience with the Linux

[tigerc]

Apache is a volunteer based project written by weekend hackers in their spare time while Microsft's IIS has an actual professional full fledged development team devoted to it.
Uh huh. That's why a majority of the world's web servers run Apache. here These developers are hardly "weekend hackers", but devoted people. Read this

As things stand now, I can understand using Linux in academia to compile simple "Hello World" style programs and learn C programming, but I'm afraid that for anything more than a hobby OS, Windows 98/NT/2K are your only choices.
So that's why Google and Amazon, for example, run Linux? [netcraft.com]

Re:My Experience with the Linux

[Anonymous Coward]

If people will bite, it's still a good troll. Just look at the drooling morons falling over themselves to refute his "facts"! And you! And ME!

P.S: I just heard some sad news on Talk Radio..

Re:My Experience with the Linux

[Anonymous Coward]

Linux is a fine DOS-like operating system with many uses, the number one of which is compiling the Linux kernel itself.

Compiling the kernel is an activity that must be accomplished time and time over again, sometimes several times per day. It is recommended that the Linux kernel be recompiled at least once per day on the most critical systems. Doing otherwise would likely result in system instability.

Since compiling the kernel is such an important activity, Linux users often benchmark and compare machines solely based on kernel compile times. Most distributions provide the source code of the kernel to the users in an effort to ease the learning curve of the unfriendly environment.

There are many reasons to compile the Linux kernel. Here are a few:

-Installation of new hardware such as a USB mouse
-Application of daily security patches
-Training towards RedHat Certified Systems Engineer certification
-Impressing friends, mates and family
-etc

Please be careful when compiling your Linux kernel. You could hose your system.

Re:My Experience with the Linux

[Anonymous Coward]

YHBT. YHL. HAND.

Re:My Experience with the Linux

[daperdan]

Granted,
Apache is a volunteer based project written by weekend hackers in
their spare time while Microsft's IIS has an actual professional full
fledged development team devoted to it.

I guess we'd better call Google and let them know. Linux can't hack it. While we're at it lets call Amazon.com and let them know. For a product that is not professional it continues to be far and away the most popular Web server on the net. I'm sorry to burst your bubble but Microsoft has lost the web server war. It will continue to be popular with VB programmers and system admins since it's so easy. Good luck and thanks for the FUD.

Re:My Experience with the Linux

[Anonymous Coward]

I'll take the "weekend hackers" over the full dev team. These are folks working on a program with a vested interest in its design and function, with no time for adding bloat.

The MS team is working on it for a paycheck instead of love of the product, based on design from others, and very prone to scope creep and bloat.

Re:My Experience with the Linux

[R2.0]

"but in this case I suppose the
old adage stands true that, "you get what you pay for"

Given the stunning innacuracies and bias in your post ("shareware version of linux"? "for anything more than a hobby OS, Windows 98/NT/2K are your only choices?" Guess IBM, HP, Sun, & Apples OS's are all vaporware) I have 2 questions?

1)How much did this "Fortune 500 Company" pay you? Whatever it was, you ripped them off.

2) How much is MS paying you?

Re:My Experience with the Linux

[Anonymous Coward]

It's amazing how people can make fun at themselves by writing things like these. :)

The author repeatedly exposes his complete lack of knowledge on any Linux or Unix system, to the point of ridicule.

I think I started laughing outloud when he started talking about a Linux/FSF system, whatever the hell that's supposed to be. A Free Software Foundation?

Furthermore, saying that the shared source gets even close to GPL is outright hilarious. One writer, so many mistakes. So many exposures to ignorance.

I barely even believe that this guy actually tried Linux at all. Seems to me like he just wrote this out of his head. It has no conformation to reality.

Re:My Experience with the Linux

[MartinG]

YHBT YHL HAND.

Please don't feed the trolls.

Re:My Experience with the Linux

[ViolentGreen]

The fact is that for the average PC user, Linux will work just fine. There will be a learning curve, but that would be true of any new technology.

Linux is just fine for a desktop as long as the user doesn't have to set it up or administer it.

Re:My Experience with the Linux

[Anonymous Coward]

The problem with linux isn't the lack of memory protection, but the fact that it doesn't use memory at all! Because memory is so expensive, and it's not free (not as in free beer, but as in free crack) and free is the only way of true communism. So, if Linus Thorvalds want to lead a revolution in the name of Lenin or Hitler, he can't use memory. As simple as that.

Re:My Experience with the Linux

[M. Baranczak]

having programmed in VB for the last 8 years doing kernel level programming

If that doesn't tip people off, then nothing will.

Re:My Experience with the Linux

[ganhawk]

Why doesnt anyone else get this joke ?
VB for the last 8 years doing kernel level programming

Apache is a volunteer based project written by weekend hackers

Microsoft "shared source" program seems to offer all of the same freedoms as the GPL Need any more proof. Geez, mod parent funny instead of troll!

Re:My Experience with the Linux

[tuxguy]

Man, I hate to say it, but a 14 year old can do better system administration than you. That's right, I'm 14 and I run a DNS + web + SMB server on my home network (Stupid comcast yells at me if I make it a public server). Linux runs extremely better on my systems than Windows does, even 2000 (Professional, not server). And come on, insulting Tux on his birthday? Not cool man!

Re:My Experience with the Linux

[l3v1]

This guy is a bad dream. Would top the wall of shame, if (s)he only had a name besides being an anonymous, obviously unprofessional and clearly totally ignorant COWARD. But oh, then he never ever got a consultant job again. I can but guess how those consulted companies manage to survive when listening to such an idiot.

Happy B-Day!

[Ann1ka]

Hip hip huraaay :)

Re:Happy B-Day!

[danormsby]

Here, here.

But why only have one birthday a year. Later this year we have 7,000,000 minutes old and next year there is 5,000 days old to celebrate.

More useless date facts available here.

Re:Happy B-Day!

[Bluesman]

Wait, shouldn't we be celebrating its first birthday in 2036?

Re:Happy B-Day!

[Anonymous Coward]

"Here, here."

Where, where?

Happy Bday

[Anonymous Coward]

What a geat day. I'll see you all on the patio.

Cheers.

Linux is 13..

[Dogers]

.. and Windows 95 was 9, just yesterday!

Re:Linux is 13..

[Ann1ka]

Windows 95 was born dead, or at least braindead. A lot of air surrounding it, but just not enough oxygen was put into it.

Re:Linux is 13..

[spellraiser]

And what a revolution that was!

I mean, jumping from version 3.1 to a whopping 95 in just over 3 years ... it boggles the mind.

Here's to the fine people at Microsoft!

Thank you, thank you. No, thank you. You can stop applauding now. Really.

Re:Linux is 13..

[Orgazmus]

I still think 98 -> 2000 is more impressive

Happy Birthday!

[Lord of Nothings]

I don't know you that well, but people tell me good things about you. Have a good one... you're old enough to smoke now. I think.

Re:Happy Birthday!

[Anonymous Coward]

Tux isn't old enough to smoke but soon he will be able to vote. Mmmmm....independent? Anyways, happy bday, Tux!

Re:Happy Birthday!

[Virtuose]

Tux is the best. Happy Birthday and Congrats Linux! cheers to the next years

Closed party

[tcdk]

So I click "Read More" and get a

Nothing for you to see here. Please move along.

...message. Inviting people to a birthday party and they not letring them in the door...

That's just rude...

Re:Closed party

[savagedome]

You came to the party way too early :D

Re:Closed party

[tcdk]

That's never, ever happened to me before... ... well, there was that one time, but that was a summer/normal time related accident and doesn't count.

it's teenage years

[Anonymous Coward]

when the child genius starts getting distracted and all rebelious.

linus: what are you rebeling against?

tux: whadda ya got?

Re:it's teenage years

[Anonymous Coward]

Ah, yes... RIP Marlon Brando.

Little boy is growing up.

[The I Shing]

Linux is 13? Pretty soon it's going to start liking girls, [sniff] and then before you know it you're handing over the car keys and telling it to please be careful. (oops, I've assigned the male gender to an operating system... all the girls who read Slashdot will be mad at me... all three of them...)

Re:Little boy is growing up.

[MmmmAqua]

Hey now, don't go forcing Linux into your gender roles! Linux is about choice - so you'll just have to become comfortable with Linux's new companion - Tim.

Re:Little boy is growing up.

[wed128]

Linux is a little boy...haven't you seen the IBM commercials?

Re:Little boy is growing up.

[qtone42]

The few who know me will get the joke.

--QTone

Re:Little boy is growing up.

[Qzukk]

Could be worse, Linux could have chosen Bob ;)

Re:Little boy is growing up.

[Anonymous Coward]

Everyone except you in here thought that Linux was a girl...

Re:Little boy is growing up.

[MmmmAqua]

Why not take it to the next level? Better Bob than...

CLIPPY!

Re:Little boy is growing up.

[Howler]

Every Linux user knows, that its not a boy, girl or what have you until you set it in /etc/gender.conf.

Re:Little boy is growing up.

[shfted!]

Naw, Linux will probably come out of the closet and start dating the BSD Devil.

Re:Little boy is growing up.

[Anonymous Coward]

Just don't let it be "Bill"!! :o)

Re:Little boy is growing up.

[kunudo]

Naw, Linux will probably come out of the closet and start dating the BSD Devil

I think they're past that.

Re:Little boy is growing up.

[shfted!]

lmao.

Linux a Teen?

[Manip]

Oh woot, we've had 10years of calm quiet Linux and now we get 5 of teen Linux.. moody and depressed. :-/

I for one can't wait until Linux reaches maturity on its 18th.

PS I bet Linux will get more girls fiddling with it than I did as a teen.. UHH even than I do currently :'(

Re:Linux a Teen?

[borgdows]

I for one can't wait until Linux reaches maturity on its 18th.

if everyone reaches maturity on 18th then most Slashdot readers are below 18 years old.

Re:Linux a Teen?

[Stevyn]

In 8 years Linus is going to make a huge gamble and try to overthrow Microsoft by betting against them in craps.

Re:Linux a Teen?

[whovian]

now we get 5 [years] of teen Linux.. moody and depressed.

Linux will grow out of it. We just need to speak out against Clippy Suicide.

Re:Linux a Teen?

[qtone42]

I KNOW you aren't a geek lamenting not getting laid...

I thought it was a given.

-Qtone

Re:Linux a Teen?

[Aliencow]

Maybe not more but at least as many!

Re:Linux a Teen?

[Anonymous Coward]

Maybe he'll rebel against something important. Maybe?

Re:Linux a Teen?

[Lumpy]

I for one can't wait until Linux reaches maturity on its 18th.

please, show me one 18 year old that has maturity...

drinking like everything's a wild party.. no sense of reality..

call me when it's made it through 4 years of college, 3 of which it had to pay for because mom and adad got pissed and pulled all their funding in the first year because linux was doing nothing but partying all the time at college and getting bad grades.

more is learned by the kids that get slapped with the reality of having to enter the real world of pain and work and exiting the magical world of everything is done for me. than all the graduate classes at the best colleges on this planet.

I think every child at graduation from highschool should be FORCED to work 8 months in a public service role locally or part of the peace corps abroad. slap them in the face hard with reality befoer they waste their first year at college getting high and still to this day cant remember where the car he had when he went to school is.

Yes, I lost a 1982 ford mustang at school my first year... it was one hell of a party (a 3 month drunk play's hell on your Calculus grade) and I still find beer caps in storage boxes I rendomly look in from my first year of undergrad..

I think I had a couple of roommates... and I am sure the car was red.

Oh man I really hope that Linux is not going to follow the human maturity cycle... it's going to be a complete know-it-all ass until around 23..

Re:Linux a Teen?

[Anonymous Coward]

call me when it's made it through 4 years of college

Linux has been at my college since 1998. Maybe it's got a bit of a head start? :-)

Re:Linux a Teen?

[Anonymous Coward]

Just because you had no self-control doesn't mean none of us did.

Wanker.

Re:Linux a Teen?

[Anonymous Coward]

I know for a fact that you dont, you bloody knob.

Cripes, I see you almost nightly at the pub

Re:Linux a Teen?

[nytes]

Just wait until Linux comes home with a new tattoo and a pierced tongue. Linus is going to hit the ceiling. (And he's probably going to want to know whose tongue it is.)

Re:Linux a Teen?

[Anonymous Coward]

followed by the years of linux in it's 20s and 30s still living in it's parents house watching japanamation, playing quake, reading slashdot. Hopefully bullies will beat some sense into it before that happens.

Re:Linux a Teen?

[Anonymous Coward]

of course the ywill, its a geek surely. any geeks who don't kick poeple down corridoors will get bullied tis simple. And sadly very few geeks seem to have that approach to bullies.

Re:Linux a Teen?

[Christopheles]

moody and depressed. :-/

Awesome, this gives my an idea for a new Linux distro: DarkLinux

It'll be the gothiest, most depessed and morbid distro out there. Also, all the text will be black on black and you'll have to install the flashlight mod to be able to see anything.

Another candle in the cake.

[Concrete Nomad]

Feliz cumpleanos!!!

May things get only better from here.

Re:Another candle in the cake.

[Anonymous Coward]

cumpleanos


I don't know what that means, but it sounds appropriate for a 13th birthday.

Re:Another candle in the cake.

[kfg]

Joyeux anniversaire from the Mandrake users.

KFG

This is TH and I pronounce Linux as...

[TeknoHog]

It was thirteen years ago today
Col. Torvalds let the source away.
We've been going in and out of drives
but we guarantee to raise uptimes.

So may I introduce to you
the hack you've known for all these years
Col. Torvalds' Linux slash GNU Band!

We're Col. Torvalds' Linux slash GNU Band,
we hope you will enjoy the code.
Col. Torvalds' Linux slash GNU Band,
just hack and let the evening go!

Col. Torvalds' Linux
Col. Torvalds' Linux
Col. Torvalds' Linux slash GNU Band!

It's wonderful to post here,
it's certainly no troll.
You're such a loyal userbase,
we'd like to merge your code with us,
we'd love to grep your /home.

I don't really want to freeze the code,
but I thought you might like to know
this release is going to fix the root
and we want you all to patch for good.

So let me introduce to you
the one and only Billy's fear
Col. Torvalds' Linux slash GNU Band!

Re:This is TH and I pronounce Linux as...

[JerkBoB]

Bravo, sir.

Re:This is TH and I pronounce Linux as...

[meringuoid]

Col. Panic, surely?

I'm fixing a hole where the worms get in...

Bah. I'm going to end up spendig the rest of today filking, aren't I?

Re:This is TH and I pronounce Linux as...

[ddimas]

I like it! Nice takeoff on the Beatles song.

Re:This is TH and I pronounce Linux as...

[EvilTwinSkippy]

I learned the truth at seventeen,
that code was meant for blue machines,
and high school kids with pasty smiles
who started dot coms then retired
The valentines I never knew
the Friday night deep coding foos
were spent on one more professional
at seventeen I learned the truth

And those of us with ravaged faces
lacking in the social graces
deperately remained at home
exchanging patches on the phone
to add new bits to the feature tree
and murmured vague obscenities
they weren't all it seems at seventeen

A brown eyed girl in hand me downs
whos name I never could pronounce
said pity please the ones who code
they always seem to get the chode
the soft and cushy m.s.c.e.
who cannot't buy what is for free
gets paid by the company
which is a haven for the elderly

So remember those who win the game
lose the love they sought to gain
in debentures for quality and dubious integrity
the small-town eyes will gape at you
in dull surprise when payment due
exceed benefits recieved at sevententeen

(Instrumental)

To those of use who knew the pain
of valentines that never came
and those whose names where never called
when choosing sides for basketball
it was long ago and far away
the world was younger than today
when code was all they gave out for free
to ugly duckling geeks like me

We all play the game, and when we dare
we cheat ourselved at solitaire
submitting patches over the phone
repenting other lives unknown
to ask for new bits to the feature tree
and murmur vague obscenities
at ugly geeks like me, at seventeen

Re:This is TH and I pronounce Linux as...

[bitterbastard]

It was thirteen years ago today
Col. Torvalds let the source away.
We've been going in and out of drives
but we guarantee to raise uptimes.

Now if only we could get RMS to sing this to the tune of a Hungarian folk song, then we'd have a hit!

[stabs ear drums with knitting needles after hearing him sing "share the software"]

Re:This is TH and I pronounce Linux as...

[Anonymous Coward]

I don't know man, I think Linus shoulds at least be a General. But anyway, where do I get these GNU band cd's at? I always try to keep up to date on the GNU music.

Re:This is TH and I pronounce Linux as...

[zenray]

Very good, Thanks Janis Ian for "At Seventeen", the original song. BTW see her web site http://www.janisian.com/ for some free mp3 of her music. Anyway, 17 is still some years off for Linux but by then maybe it will rule the world. :)

And that is why...

[Gunfighter]

... I got married on the 10th birthday of Linux. That way my anniversary would be easy to remember.

By the way honey, if you're reading this... Happy Anniversary.

Re:And that is why...

[kfg]

Don't forget to email her a jpeg of flowers. It would be a bitch to have to play CounterStrike Source alone for the next week.

KFG

Re:And that is why...

[sometwo]

Maybe you can get her some Linux jewelry....

Re:And that is why...

[Anonymous Coward]

No thanks. I'd rather stay married.

Re:And that is why...

[Ark]

My wife and I got married on the 10th anniversary of linux as well. I tell everyone that its just a coincidence, but most people know better.

Of course, 3 years later what we named our daugther was inspired by a character in a comic book and her middle name was inspired by a character in Farscape.

Truly, there's no hope for us.

Re:And that is why...

[Anonymous Coward]

Happy Anniversary sweety.

By the way the kids are crying, we need food, there are a bunch of unpaid bills in the table, you told me you'd stop reading slashdot and start working.

Re:And that is why...

[EvilTwinSkippy]

Did one better. Got married in 2000.

Now I don't have to do any math to figure out I've been married for ... 4 years.

Re:And that is why...

[SteakandcheeseUm]

holy crap! if there were such a thing! That is amazing. Mod parent up!

Re:And that is why...

[EvilTwinSkippy]

Blessed are the geek, for they shall inherit the earth.

Re:And that is why...

[Kiaser Zohsay]

That way my anniversary would be easy to remember.

Today is our Fourteenth anniversary. I can't really say I planned it that way though...

Re:And that is why...

[WhiteDragon]

I had always seen that quote as:
blessed are the geek, for they shall internet the earth

Re:Happy Birthday

[dave420]

Like it was going to last year? :-P

One more year...

[MalaclypseTheYounger]

And Linux will finally be old enough to watch "Adult Swim".

"It's like a koala bear crapped a rainbow in my brain!" - RIP, Harry...

13 already?

[thhamm]

and i knew you, when you just turned 5. remember it like it was yesterday.

damn im getting old.

Re:13 already?

[Anonymous Coward]

Somebody I knew, must be about 23 now, remembers when it was all fields.

M$ has a fear ...

[MadX]

Tredecaphobia .. The amount of years before they realized that the light at the end of the tunnel WAS the headlamp of an oncoming express train ..

Congratulations to all the Kernel Folks !! and to the Creator - Linus

Re:M$ has a fear ...

[qtone42]

2 things...

1. If Linux turned 13, this is the 14th year. and

2. Wouldn't it be "Triskadecaphobia"?

--QTone
Does Anal Retentive have a hyphen?

Fingers crossed...

[sczimme]

I hope it doesn't become a petulant and rebellious teenager - sleeping late, making people wait, grumbling about garbage collection, exploring promiscuous mode, ignoring quotas, etc.

/"Excuse me, I seem to have the plague" - E. Izzard

Re:Fingers crossed...

[Stevyn]

Man, you must have had a rough childhood. I remember doing chores when I was thirteen, but I never had "quotas."

Re:Fingers crossed...

[randyest]

I fixed the stupid moderation in M2. Unfunny is not Offtopic.

Just FYI, and in hopes that others might do similarly.

A happy birthday cake...

[derphilipp]

..leftover from the sysadminday: http://www.pweissmann.de/kuchen.jpg
(A blackberry cake I made, a really simple recipe).

Happy Birthday Linux !

Re:A happy birthday cake...

[struppi]

Happy Birthday, here's some cookies... http://www.krstarica.com/slike/kuvar/deserti/neval jalci.jpg

Only 13?!?!

[SirStanley]

I feel kinda creepy for having to fsck my linux partition now.

Re:Only 13?!?!

[Anonymous Coward]

Only just now?? :)

Re:Only 13?!?!

[Prod_Deity]

Good thing you didn't post AC, we would've seen a bunch of Michael Jackson posts.

Re:Only 13?!?!

[pherthyl]

Hey, if you have GRASS installed, play ball! ;)

Great!

[Anonymous Coward]

The stars are aligned. Clearly, this will be the year of linux on the desktop!

First words

[hotspotbloc]

"Hello everybody out there using minux - I'm doing a (free) operating system (just a hobby, won't be big and professinal like gnu) for 386 (486) AT clones." - Linus Torvalds, August 25, 2001

Does anyone have a link or the text to the complete accouncement email?

Re:First words

[laptop006]

Linus would have to be the only person to call HURD big and professional...

Re:First words

[md81544]

Er... that would be 1991...

Re:First words

[pjt33]

Google?

Re:First words

[mqRakkis]

From: torvalds@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Linus Benedict Torvalds)
Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
Subject: What would you like to see most in minix?
Summary: small poll for my new operating system
Message-ID: <1991Aug25.205708.9541@klaava.Helsinki.FI>
Dat e: 25 Aug 91 20:57:08 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki

Hello everybody out there using minix -
I'm doing a (free) operating system (just a hobby, won't be big and
professional like gnu) for 386(486) AT clones. This has been brewing
since april, and is starting to get ready. I'd like any feedback on
things people like/dislike in minix, as my OS resembles it somewhat
(same physical layout of the file-system (due to practical reasons)
among other things).
I've currently ported bash(1.08) and gcc(1.40), and things seem to work.
This implies that I'll get something practical within a few months, and
I'd like to know what features most people would want. Any suggestions
are welcome, but I won't promise I'll implement them :-)
Linus (torvalds@kruuna.helsinki.fi)
PS. Yes - it's free of any minix code, and it has a multi-threaded fs.
It is NOT protable (uses 386 task switching etc), and it probably never
will support anything other than AT-harddisks, as that's all I have :-(.

Re:First words

[Anonymous Coward]

First, Tannebaum's OS is Minix, not "minux". Second, here's a link for you and anybode else who can't fucking use Google: LINUX's History.

Re:First words

[meringuoid]

Slightly earlier: the conception.

Due to a project I'm working on (in minix), I'm interested in the posix standard definition. Could somebody please point me to a (preferably) machine-readable format of the latest posix rules? Ftp-sites would be nice.

-- Linus Benedict Torvalds, July 3, 1991

What could this project have been, for which Linus wanted to know detailed information about the POSIX standard?

Re:First words

[Anonymous Coward]

http://www.opengroup.org/certification/idx/posix.h tml

Re:First words

[hoofie]

I like the bit at the bottom:

...it probably never will support anything other than AT-harddisks, as that's all I have :-(."

I think the hardware support has moved on a bit from then....[My linux is currently running on a dual-processor pentium with SCSI raid array].

Re:First words

[nanoakron]

"640k should be enough for anybody"
-Bill Gates III

Ah...how we all laughed.

-Nano.

Re:First words

[Thinman]

SCO should have read this before starting it's IP litigation with IBM.

Ken Brown neither read this before writing his book.

"PS. Yes - it's free of any minix code, [...]"

BTW Long Life & Porsperity Linux!!!!!

Re:First words

[sydb]

I know you're a twat, but he didn't mention HURD; he said GNU, which is indeed big and professional.

Re:First words

[Anonymous Coward]

Now that's what I call a late reply. :-)

Re:First words

[damiam]

HURD is (or was) the kernel of the GNU system. Therefore, when comparing Linux (a kernel) to GNU, he was implying a comparision between Linux and HURD.

Re:First words

[sydb]

I think you're wrong though. I think Linus started off "borrowing" GNU tools planning to write his own but discovered kernel development was a job in it's own right.

So I think he was comparing Linux (a would-be full system) to GNU (an already comprehensive system, lacking a kernel).

Post your confessions here:

[GoMMiX]

C'mon, how many of you bought your Linux distro a cake?

Re:Post your confessions here:

[grunt107]

My distro has diabetes (Type 2).
Gotta diet (removes KDE, Gnome GUIs...)

13? 'Bout to be a man now son...

[http101]

...and I'd like to give you that first step into penguin-manhood.

{pops tab on beer can}

Drink up sonny boy, you've got a long road ahead of you and no one is going to fight your fights for you anymore. Go get 'em boy!

Great

[ormoru]

One year closer to obsolescence.
Just what I wanted to hear.
And the fax lines are down.
Sounds like it's going to be another gloomy day.

Favorite Unix/Linux Links

[Davak]

What's your favorite help sites?

Computer Hope's Unix
Tech-recipes's Unix
Tek-tips forums
Sun's BigAdmin

Help me add to my favorites...

Davak

Re:Favorite Unix/Linux Links

[Orgazmus]

www.google.com

'man shit'?

Re:Favorite Unix/Linux Links

[itsnotthenetwork]

I like this one a lot.
http://216.218.185.154/index.html

Re:Favorite Unix/Linux Links

[gorre]

I like this one a lot.
http://216.218.185.154/index.html

Why is this modded troll? he links to LinuxDevices.com.

$ host linuxdevices.com
linuxdevices.com A 216.218.185.154

Re:Favorite Unix/Linux Links

[Anonymous Coward]

I feared to check it figuring that it would be a goatse/tubgirl/etc. image.

Or maybe one of those random redirection scripts, which only redirect you sometimes, to avoid getting moderated down.

Re:Favorite Unix/Linux Links

[toggles]

blah, you're all wrong, the only decent linux link out there is

http://www.gentoo.org

Re:Favorite Unix/Linux Links

[termos]

Official Gentoo-Linux-Zealot translator-o-matic

Gentoo Linux is an interesting new distribution with some great features. Unfortunately, it has attracted a large number of clueless wannabes and leprotards who absolutely MUST advocate Gentoo at every opportunity. Let's look at the language of these zealots, and find out what it really means...

"Gentoo makes me so much more productive."
"Although I can't use the box at the moment because it's compiling something, as it will be for the next five days, it gives me more time to check out the latest USE flags and potentially unstable optimisation settings."

"Gentoo is more in the spirit of open source!"
"Apart from Hello World in Pascal at school, I've never written a single program in my life or contributed to an open source project, yet staring at endless streams of GCC output whizzing by somehow helps me contribute to international freedom."

"I use Gentoo because it's more like the BSDs."
"Last month I tried to install FreeBSD on a well-supported machine, but the text-based installer scared me off. I've never used a BSD, but the guys on Slashdot say that it's l33t though, so surely I must be for using Gentoo."

"Heh, my system is soooo much faster after installing Gentoo."
"I've spent hours recompiling Fetchmail, X-Chat, gEdit and thousands of other programs which spend 99% of their time waiting for user input. Even though only the kernel and glibc make a significant difference with optimisations, and RPMs and .debs can be rebuilt with a handful of commands (AND Red Hat supplies i686 kernel and glibc packages), my box MUST be faster. It's nothing to do with the fact that I've disabled all startup services and I'm running BlackBox instead of GNOME or KDE."

"...my Gentoo Linux workstation..."
"...my overclocked AMD eMachines box from PC World, and apart from the third-grade made-to-break components and dodgy fan..."

"You Red Hat guys must get sick of dependency hell..."
"I'm too stupid to understand that circular dependencies can be resolved by specifying BOTH .rpms together on the command line, and that problems hardly ever occur if one uses proper Red Hat packages instead of mixing SuSE, Mandrake and Joe's Linux packages together (which the system wasn't designed for)."

"All the other distros are soooo out of date."
"Constantly upgrading to the latest bleeding-edge untested software makes me more productive. Never mind the extensive testing and patching that Debian and Red Hat perform on their packages; I've just emerged the latest GNOME beta snapshot and compiled with -O9 -fomit-instructions, and it only crashes once every few hours."

"Let's face it, Gentoo is the future."
"OK, so no serious business is going to even consider Gentoo in the near future, and even with proper support and QA in place, it'll still eat up far too much of a company's valuable time. But this guy I met on #animepr0n is now using it, so it must be growing!"

-

Re:Favorite Unix/Linux Links

[itsnotthenetwork]

Thank you. This is the only URL I have for the site. I thought it would look suspicious if I put it behind a link....

heh

[Anonymous Coward]

... hey its my bday too! kinda odd I share a bday with linux. does this mean I have a to share my cake with my debian box?!?

Re:heh

[Thrymm]

You could always go to the zoo and sing happy birthday to the penguins, and maybe they will toss some crackers your way :)

Re:Happy Birthday

[Orgazmus]

And next year. Whats your point? ;)

-420

Credits? So what

[macdaddy]

Who cares about getting their name in the credits. I want my name on the IPO. :-)

They grow up so fast...

[bobbinFrapples]

Mazel Tov!

Re:They grow up so fast...

[Anonymous Coward]

Alright, who let a jew in?

year what?

[weighn]

Today, it's year 13

wouldn't today be year 14?

Re:year what?

[RazzleFrog]

I handle this one for you. How old were you when you were born? Your first year of life you were zero years old (which is why the measure it in months). That means that Linux is starting its 14th year of life now that it is 13.

Re:year what?

[Proteus]

But since we all start counting from 0, it's still 13. Or 0x0C. I like the idea that Linux is "C" years old.

Re:year what?

[RazzleFrog]

No - our age is zero based but the current year is one based. You can't mix and match based on your preference.

Age 0 - Year 1
Age 1 - Year 2
.
.
.
Age 13 - Year 14

Re:year what?

[Anonymous Coward]

well that would depend on the country you live in. In some countries, at birth you're considered 1 yr old. but does it really matter?

Don't feed the trolls....

[Anonymous Coward]

n/t

happy birthday!

[sometwo]

Here's a special birthday package

Don't want to get arrested

[StevenHenderson]

I, for one, will not be messing around with any distro until they are at least 18. At least Longhorn won't be out until after that. :)

Re:Don't want to get arrested

[Anonymous Coward]

come on over to the uk, where you can mess with distros when they are only 16 :)

Colonel?

[Glytch]

Shouldn't that be Kernel Torvalds?

Re:Colonel?

[kfg]

Shut up and just submit the patch.

KFG

Re:Colonel?

[RAMMS EIN]

If you speak British, it is.

Love child really...

[manavendra]

..unlike the more conscientious adults, I sorta half-stumbled onto slackware, resulting into this "Linux" offspring

Sad though, unlike other celebrities and their love childs, my name isn't in the credits...

I can feel it!!!!

[spectrokid]

The year of Linux on the desktop! It has come!!!

Google Doodle

[r.jimenezz]

Too bad the Google Doodle is taken up for a couple of weeks with the Olympics, otherwise Google should put up a penguin there to acknowledge this milestone.

Re:Google Doodle

[niteice]

Try their Linux section.

original post

[Errtu76]

Message-ID: 1991Aug25.205708.9541@klaava.helsinki.fi
From: torvalds@klaava.helsinki.fi (Linus Benedict Torvalds)
To: Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
Subject: What would you like to see most in minix?
Summary: small poll for my new operating system

Hello everybody out there using minix-I'm doing a (free)
operating system (just a hobby, won't be big and professional
like gnu) for 386 (486) AT clones. This has been brewing since
april, and is starting to get ready. I'd like any feedback on
things people like/dislike in minix, as my OS resembles it
somewhat

Any suggestions are welcome, but I won't promise I'll implement them :-)

Linus

Unlucky 13?

[Anonymous Coward]

Just a rumor I heard that the origin of "Unlucky 13" had to do with Jesus and the 12-apostles. I have no idea why that would make it unlucky... Unless you were... [ChurchLady]SATAN![/ChurchLady]

Thank you, thank you!

Tonight's my last night

Re:Unlucky 13?

[RazzleFrog]

Nope. Much older than that. There is evidence of it in Norse mythology and Ancient Rome. Some believe that it is considered unlucky because it follows such a nice number as 12. 12 is a nice round number that is easily divisible and it is very popular with numerologists - "12 signs of the zodiac, 12 gods of Olympus, 12 labors of Hercules, 12 tribes of Israel, and 12 apostles of Jesus". 13 on the other hand is prime and is really a bastard. Try splitting 3 pizzas amongst 13 people.

Re:Unlucky 13?

[krgallagher]

" I heard that the origin of "Unlucky 13" had to do with Jesus and the 12-apostles."

I heard it came from 13 witches to a coven and 13 full moons to a year. Part of the Church's Jihad against Pagans.

Re:Unlucky 13?

[Anonymous Coward]

Easy. I get one pizza, and the other 12 guys get 1/6th of one each.

Come on...

[StevenHenderson]

Come on, Linux...just tell me you're 18. I'm dying to install you on my computers any play with you all night long

Re:Come on...

[Ziviyr]

Stop thinking dirty thoughts about Linux's /dev/null!!

Re:Come on...

[pfriedma]

I hear the 2.6 kernel has enhanced support for docking devices...

Still took ten years

[ToasterTester]

I remember ten years ago read an article about developing a OS. It quoted Bill Gates on why there is so little competition. The gist of his answer is first the cost is too high for most companies to want to take on. Second he said to get to market then have the product mature takes about ten years. So Linux beat the cost factor, but not the time factor.

Re:Still took ten years

[Jungle guy]

Many people think that Apache was the "killer app" for Linux, and Apache 1.0 was released in december 1995. So, in one or two years the Linux market will mature and we will see if it will eventually surpass Windows or if it will be and underdog, with something like 20% or 30% market share on servers.

For desktops Linux is very distant from maturity. Open Office 1.0 and Mozilla 1.0 were released recently, and without them the Linux desktop was a free OS with proprietary apps, an unstable mixture.

crap...

[blueforce]

root$ uptime
5477 days, 13 hours, 27 minutes

huh?

root$ uname
Solaris 4.03c

Where do I get this Linux thing?

Re:crap...

[lucas teh geek]

root$ uptime
102342342323423 days, 26 hours, 87 minutes

huh?

root$ uname
teh Windows xp sp3 l33t alpha-beta 666

Wow! I can make up numbers too!

Re:crap...

[blueforce]

Wow! I can make up numbers too!

Thank you captain obvious.

Ok, ok... so my attempt at humor was pretty weak with that first post - I'll concede that.

Always a cynic in the crowd.

Re:crap...

[SteakandcheeseUm]

281,160,281,108.30494505494505494505 years?

I dont get it?
The Big bang was only 15,000,000,000 years ago. I suggest that you recalculate, watching your decimal points.

Happy Birthday

[Anonymous Coward]

Happy Birthday Linux!!! ;)

Nah ah!

[Nicholas Evans]

According to Linus' book, Linux 0.01 was released on Sept. 17, 1991. (Second to last line, Page 87, Just for Fun). So today isn't the birthday. :(

Re:Nah ah!

[suso]

You're right, the release date of the first version should be its birthday. So today is more like the 13th anniversary of the middle of its third tri-mester. ;-)

Re:Nah ah!

[Mattwolf7]

Well then the idea was born today

Re:Nah ah!

[RAMMS EIN]

So then the birthdays of HURD and Duke Nuke 'em Forever must be...

Re:Nah ah!

[Graf Typo]

According to Linus' book, Linux 0.01 was released on Sept. 17, 1991. (Second to last line, Page 87, Just for Fun). So today isn't the birthday. :(

So today is the 13th anniversary of its conception?

Re:Nah ah!

[Paulrothrock]

So should we complain when the story's duped in three weeks?

Re:Nah ah!

[Nicholas Evans]

Nyet, just the day it was 'announced'. Linus decided that he was going to turn his terminal emulator into an OS more around July 3, as that is when he requested the posix standard on comp.os.minix.

Re:Nah ah!

[cpeterso]

Come on now, what does Linus really know about Linux?

Re:Nah ah!

[Sodki]

According to Linus' book, Linux 0.01 was released on Sept. 17, 1991.

thanks to you, i just found out that linux's birthday is on the same day as my birthday. :-)

kiddo linux turns 13

[Anonymous Coward]

this reminds me of the "Kinder Unix" tshirt.

Does this mean....

[AviLazar]

that Linux will go into a rebellious period, wear goth punk hair, chains, and all black?
Linux rebellious? Oh wait...

song

[Tomahawk]

/me sings:

Happy Birthday to you,
You live in the zoo,
You look like a penguin,
and you smell like one too! :)

Happy 13th Linux!

T.

Re:song

[Tomahawk]

Actually, it's a variation on

Happy Birthday to you,
you live in a zoo,
you look like a monkey,
and you smell like one too.

with the obvious change. This is a standard variation on the normal Happy Birthday tune that kids sing to insult someone.

Doesn't take long to come up with changing 'monkey' to 'penguin'.

Just to be pedantic...

T.

Linux is obsolete

[raffe]

Reading the Linux is obsolete story they talk about Rick Rashid being on the free software side. Is is the same Rick Rashid that works at Microsoft?

No More Sneaking In

[pickapeppa]

Now Linux can legally see most Van Diesel movies!

That's really cool

[The Slashdolt]

because today is my birthday, seriously (29). I had no idea I shared my birthday with Linux.

Re:That's really cool

[Anonymous Coward]

The funny thing is you don't. Too bad the bozo's at Slashdot can't get their information correct. However, you can pretend that today is the birthday of Linux...

What?!?

[suso]

I thought it was on Sept 17th? Isn't that when the post about it went out?

That sucks, we were planning on opening our Linux Support business here in Bloomington, IN on Sept 17th. Oh well, we'll still open then, it will just be our opening day.

Re:What?!?

[Anonymous Coward]

Sept. 17th is the day Linux 0.001 was released; Aug. 25th was the date of Linus' original posting about the idea of Linux. You're still good to go.

Re:What?!?

[StuartFreeman]

9/17/91 is when the code was first made available, today is the anniversary of Linus' announcement that he was working on it. I celebrate Linux's birthday on 9/17.

First words - here they are

[hotspotbloc]

Thanks to pjt33 for the answer:

From: torvalds@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Linus Benedict Torvalds)
Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
Subject: What would you like to see most in minix?
Summary: small poll for my new operating system
Message-ID: Date: 25 Aug 91 20:57:08 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki

Hello everybody out there using minix - I'm doing a (free) operating system (just a hobby, won't be big and professional like gnu) for 386(486) AT clones. This has been brewing since april, and is starting to get ready. I'd like any feedback on things people like/dislike in minix, as my OS resembles it somewhat (same physical layout of the file-system (due to practical reasons) among other things). I've currently ported bash(1.08) and gcc(1.40), and things seem to work.This implies that I'll get something practical within a few months, and I'd like to know what features most people would want. Any suggestions are welcome, but I won't promise I'll implement them :-)

Linus (torvalds@kruuna.helsinki.fi)
PS. Yes - it's free of any minix code, and it has a multi-threaded fs. It is NOT portable (uses 386 task switching etc), and it probably never will support anything other than AT-harddisks, as that's all I have :-(."

Happy Birthday !!!

[saxa]

Happy Birthday Linux !!!

Cool!

[Anonymous Coward]

Linux is now at the perfect age for me to molest him. Aw, yeah. I just love that tight Linux ass.

Haiku 3rd Birthday too...

[technix4beos]

Speaking of Birthdays...

The Haiku project recently turned 3 years old. Several websites have covered the nice letter Michael Phipps wrote to the community.

Happy birthday Linux, naturally... Without all of the hard work in regular Open Source projects, I doubt there would have been half as much motivation for our small projects, in another timeline. (You know, the evil timeline where Billy G is president of the US of A. :)

Cheers!

With apologies to Bill Cosby

[gosand]

I spawned your process, and I can kill -9 you!

Re:With apologies to Bill Cosby

[XnR'rn]

I think you're mixing him up with Nikolai Gogol. :) Read Taras Bulba, thats a line from there.

Congrats...

[fudgefactor7]

...you are now an awkward teen.

Now, stay the hell out of my pr0n.

A Song of hope??? (Slightly Truncated)

[pandrijeczko]

There's a hacker who's sure, Open Source is the cure
And he's using a kernel called Linux
When he boots it he knows, that the source isn't closed
With a "make" he can fix any problems

Woe oh oh oh oh oh
And he's using a kernel called Linux

On the top he'll run GNU cos he wants to be sure
All the standards and file types are open
He'll put PERL on his box and he'll edit with vi
Or with Emacs because he has choices

Woe oh oh oh oh oh
And he's using a kernel called Linux

On the desktop he gets KDE, Gnome and X
And Enlightenment if he wants slimmer
GCC will compile all the source he may find
Using optimise flags to go faster

Woe oh oh oh oh oh
And he's using a kernel called Linux

And it whispered that soon, if FOSS does call the tune
That the penguin will lead us to reason
No proprietary code, software patents will die
Cos the world will say knowledge's for sharing

Woe oh oh oh oh oh
It was started by this guy called Linus

13 years?

[awacs]

Guess it's time for a reboot ...

Re:13 years?

[pandrijeczko]

What? You mean you're having to change some hardware?

Re:13 years?

[awacs]

Nope. I reboot my Linux boxen every thirteen years. :-)

arrested

[thhamm]

in other news, a suprised /. user was arrested this morning for consuming beer and cigarettes in front of under-21 linux distro.

"it did not tell me. would not have done it if i knew", accused says.

Re:frsit psot

[Anonymous Coward]

No.

Penguin years...

[atomic-penguin]

But the average penguin lives 15-20 years. So that is like 46 in penguin years. So Tux would be going through a mid-life crisis about now.

Odd Aniversaries.

[Anonymous Coward]

Why are we celebrating the 13th birthday. I can see 10, 15, 20, 25.... why 13? Slow news day?

And doesn't this mean Linux is older than windows 3.1?

linuxquestions.org

[essreenim]

Credits are for the weak. I am in the credits for a game I never tested, and not in the credits for many games I helped to test...

uhmmm...

[scheuri]

...is there a chance she really reads this??

oh my, you lucky bastard....

I'm not on the list,

[Anonymous Coward]

but I'm a proud user!

So long, and thanks for all the files :)

(so long, see you when I get home from work my sweet linux box)

Happy Birthday From China :)

[nKBit]

The cute little penguin is growing every day, especially here in China. As linux is growing mature in many domains and the desktop is making good progress, with the support directly from our government, I think there is a bright future of Linux for our people.

I've been promoting linux to my friends, my classmates, and always trying my best to help people who are interested in Linux so that they can have smoother migration from windows.

Yes, some of them go back to windows again, and some of them do fall in love with our lovely penguin :)

I know I can't do much, but I've tried and I'm doing my very best.

I have a dream that one day I have a son or a daughter, I'm going to celebrate the 18th birthday with my little baby :)

And I've been thinking about being a primary school teacher someday, and teach our children -- the next generation of our country -- Linux :)

Hey, again, Happy Birthday to my dear Linux, and
sorry for my poor english~

Re:Happy Birthday From China :)

[Anonymous Coward]

Maybe you should teach them about democracy and the joy of living without fear of government abuse?

Re:Happy Birthday From China :)

[sloanster]

Thanks for the good wishes, may the penguin prosper in China!

Re:Happy Birthday From China :)

[nKBit]

hi, I think some people outside the world there seem that they don't know how many great changes have taken place here in our country nowadays :)

Yes, China is an old country, however, as a modern country, she is still at her early age, she is young, not as mature as developed country like America.

Democracy is a process, a long long term process. We need time, we need resources, we need education... there're 1.3 billion people here, it's not as easy as a walk in the park.

The important thing is: our country is growing in a steady pace. I think it would be better once my generation becomes the mainstream power of the country, since many (still, that's not enough for 1.3 billion...) of us are well educated :)

What's more, in some developed (not as developed as those great cities in the world:) provinces like Beijin, Shanghai, Guangdong (I live here)... people do lead a very good life there. And the government systems of these provinces are much maturer.

I'm proud of our country, proud to be a Chinese, and what's the most important is that - I'm proud to be one of those people who are growing up with China, seeing, hearing, feeling the joyful changes happenning around us everyday :)

I'm sure our country will grow up like a giant someday (sure will Linux:). I think I'll be there that day. Please be patient:)

And thank you very much for your advice, I really appreciate your concern about China:)

Again, sorry for my poor English, I've trying my best to improve my English skill :)

Re:Happy Birthday From China :)

[Anonymous Coward]

Actually, your english is very good. Better than many of the american's sloppy english that post here.

Pregnant

[Hieronymus Howard]

So today is not Linux's 13th birthday. It's actually the 13th anniversary of Linus announcing that he was pregnant. The date of the first public release of the code should be the actual birthday.

As someone mentioned earlier, Linux 0.01 was released on Sept. 17, 1991

wow, neet

[XO]

And today would be the 16th anniversary of the day I lost my virginity. w00t!.

Re:wow, neet

[Anonymous Coward]

So you're what, 46? now? :)

*ducks and runs*

Re:wow, neet

[Anonymous Coward]

... I won't be 50 for a good few years yet ...

Re:wow, neet

[godblessthenet]

You combined "w00t" and "lost my virginity" together under a topic that includes the word "neet". Are you sure you didn't mean to say "the day I was born"?

Re:wow, neet

[XO]

really, i was more contributing to the "ho-hum" factor of this story.

Someone rent a band...

[Judeccan]

It's Bar Mitzvah time. You're a man, now, Linux.

Uh oh

[nooch]

Now that Linux is a teenager, I am worried that my server is going to sneak into my liquor cabinet, and smoke all my... um... cigarettes. Yeah, that's it.

Happy Birthday!!! Woot! In celebration, I am installing Gentoo on an old laptop (while at work, bah!). It is currently running Win2k, so it's being liberated.

-J

We have Tux... but what has ms got?

[davidsyes]

Why don't we take a look, shall we?

Linux has Tux.

Is this what ms' mascot should be:

ttp://www.geocities.com/Heartland/5960/manatee.h tm l

or

http://www.manateeworld.net

Let's vote

Re:We have Tux... but what has ms got?

[pappy97]

You seem to be neglecting MS' cute and appropriate mascot...CLIPPY!!!!

Tux vs. Clippy? Tux, like many slashdotters, can just threaten to sit on his opponent and they'll go running for the hills.

Re:We have Tux... but what has ms got?

[Anonymous Coward]

Linux has Tux, Microsoft has billions and billions of dollars... Which would you rather have?

But on a serious note, MS does have an icon, why do you feel that all computer company icons need to be animal shaped?

Re:We have Tux... but what has ms got?

[davidsyes]

But, is clippy on a box, or emblazoned on an article?

Is clippy loved and adored by all or even most of ms' users/subjects? Recall how many people beg for information on how to turn off that annoyance. Tux doesn't pop up and scamper all over your screen offering up pointless or irrelevant assistance like that dog or the paperclip.

Tux is just "there", on artwork, tee-shirts, and even molded into keychain accessories. I haven't seen anyone wearing a "clippy" t-shirt. Have you?

Re:We have Tux... but what has ms got?

[davidsyes]

I will go with the Ferengi Rule of Acquisition that says, "Dignity and an empty sack is worth the empty sack."

Meaning, I prefer to have my dignity, morals, scruples, and honor than have any of ms' money. When you get that big, it's got to be hollow (not hallowed) and nerve-wracking trying to find new markets to hijack just to assuage instant-gratification investors. Long-term investors can be respected more, though.

Tons of money can make you truly rich, but it doesn't make you REALLY/honestly happy. It's a relative illusion.

David Syes

Re:Life begins at conception

[Anonymous Coward]

Linus announced that he was pregnant with linux 13 years ago today, but the real life of linux began not with the announcement or release/birth, but the moment he conceived it. If Linus had aborted his conception before release, just think of all the wonderful potential we'd have missed out on.

Read the Sign, buddy...

[Anonymous Coward]

NO STAIRWAY!

Fweee!

[Anonymous Coward]

Astroturfing!

On the Offense!

15 yard penalty!

Repeat first down.

13, huh?

[ESqVIP]

That's half 1337.

Eh, they still bite

[Theatetus]

*shrug* 10 bites on /. isn't too bad for an old piece of bait. Sure, it's nowhere near as good as "Ways to tell your son is a computer hacker" or whatever it was called, but as trolls go this is one of the best ones which is why you keep seeing it.

Re:Eh, they still bite

[stemcell]

True enough. Do you ever wonder if the trolls post as an AC and then reply to it as themselves - you know, to sort of get the ball rolling?

Stem

Re:Eh, they still bite

[Anonymous Coward]

no, I didn't. The bites were all legit

Stupid version names

[Theatetus]

That irritated me: the upgrade to Windows 98 was called Windows ME, while the update to Windows NT was called Windows 2000.

Then again, I just went from Gentoo 1.4 to Gentoo 2004.1, and I seem to recall RedHat skipped from 3 to 6 or something like that.

Re:Stupid version names

[Cro Magnon]

I always thought the successor to Windows ME should have been Windows ME2, not XP. I think you're mistaken about RedHat, but Slackware DID skip from 4 to 7.

Re:Stupid version names

[Theatetus]

But that's the thing: XP didn't succeed ME it succeeded 2000. ME was the last one based on the win32 kernel and runtime; 2000 and XP were based on the winnt kernel and runtime.

So the win32 models went:

• 95 (year)
• 98 (year)
• ME (two letters)

And the winnt models went:

• NT (two letters)
• 2000 (a year, but this time with 4 digits)
• XP (two letters)
• And now 2003 (a year, again with 4 digits)

It vexes me...

Re:Stupid version names

[Holi]

Well ME did actually stand for something, Millenium Edition, So going 95 -> 98 -> ME did make some sense.

NT and XP.... Who knows.

Re:Stupid version names

[Cro Magnon]

XP actually succeeded 2000 AND ME. It was the next CONSUMER oriented Windows OS. And, reading your post I just realized, ALL the consumer oriented Windows since 3.1 were either a 2 digit year or 2 characters.

Re:Stupid version names

[Cro Magnon]

NT stood for "New Technology". I forget what XP stands for. eXtra Pain?

Re:Stupid version names

[DA-MAN]

Then again, I just went from Gentoo 1.4 to Gentoo 2004.1, and I seem to recall RedHat skipped from 3 to 6 or something like that.

No, that would be slackware.

http://mirror.mcs.anl.gov/redhat/linux/

If you look there, you'll see a v3, 4 and 5!

Re:Stupid version names

[Anonymous Coward]

I forget what XP stands for. eXtra Pain?

It doesn't stand for anything; it's an emoticon.

Re:Stupid version names

[Sindri]

NT stands for New Technology. Witch makes the phrase "NT Technology" on the 2000 startup screen very wierd. I assume it stands for "New Technology Tecnology".

Re:Stupid version names

[wwwillem]

I always kept that WinNT startup splash screen with "Microsoft Neanderthal Technology". The big monkey saying "Me discover fire, invent wheel, build server". :-)

Re:Stupid version names

[wwwillem]

NT stands for New Technology

Or is it just the old "IBM minus 1 -> HAL" joke? ..... "MS plus 1 -> NT"!

Similarly Sun had once the windowing system "NeWS" after which Steve Jobs named his workstation "NeXT". But this could of course all be a case of far fetched 'reverse engineering'.

Re:Stupid version names

[bccomm]

I think it stands for eXPerience. Leaving it as a verb without a clarifying noun leaves the door open, however, for a plethora of really corny joke names...

RiP

[Anonymous Coward]

May it rest in peace.

Happy Birthday, Linux

[rd_syringe]

It seems your birthday was the only reason Slashdot posted an article about you this morning--everything else was all about Microsoft! I know, I hope Slashdot goes back to being a Linux site too, but it's all about page hits these days. Anti-social nerds love having nothing more than big forums to prove how right they think they are about something they hate. But I won't forget...Slashdot used to be a cool Linux tech news site, and you've have top billing on the front page. But not anymore.

Second words ...

[Anonymous Coward]

Thanks to all the guys who sent me links to the POSIX standard. I've got enough links, you can stop now.

And special thanks to att!ucbvax!sco!dmichels for sending me that big tarball of source code via uucp. It's sure going to come in handy!

-- Linus

My bday too =))

[xushi]

Heh, that's something new i didnt know... Yea, its my bday today as well =) (along with Sean Connery i believe), and this news makes the day even happyer.

Almost like a twin...

[jaybird144]

Aw...Tux and I have the same birthday...granted, it's my 21st, so I think I have a little more to be happy about tonight... I'll raise a toast to you, Tux!

Its my birthday too...

[ecliptic_1]

August 25, 1975
Yeah me!

Yay for linux

[Anonymous Coward]

Now Linux can sign up for all those message boards and things online now that he/she is 13!

Uh huh!

[bziman]

According to Linus' book, Linux 0.01 was released on Sept. 17, 1991. (Second to last line, Page 87, Just for Fun). So today isn't the birthday. :(

Actually, from linux10.org, you'll note they consider the birthday to be when Linus first announced the project:

From: torvalds@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Linus Benedict Torvalds)
Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
Subject: What would you like to see most in minix?
Summary: small poll for my new operating system
Message-ID:
Date: 25 Aug 91 20:57:08 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki

Hello everybody out there using minix -
I'm doing a (free) operating system (just a hobby, won't be big and
professional like gnu) for 386(486) AT clones. This has been brewing
since april, and is starting to get ready. I'd like any feedback on
things people like/dislike in minix, as my OS resembles it somewhat
(same physical layout of the file-system (due to practical reasons)
among other things).
I've currently ported bash(1.08) and gcc(1.40), and things seem to work.
This implies that I'll get something practical within a few months, and
I'd like to know what features most people would want. Any suggestions
are welcome, but I won't promise I'll implement them :-)
Linus (torvalds@kruuna.helsinki.fi)
PS. Yes - it's free of any minix code, and it has a multi-threaded fs.
It is NOT protable (uses 386 task switching etc), and it probably never
will support anything other than AT-harddisks, as that's all I have :-(.

I've been a Linux user for 10 of those years... I'm curious how many people were working with it in the first three years before I discovered it.

--brian

Re:Uh huh!

[AME]

won't be big and professional like gnu ... it probably never will support anything other than AT-harddisks

Not much of a visionary, is he?

Mazel Tov

[Aggrav8d]

Now is the time for everyone to attend the bar-mitzvah and quietly slip the young man a cheque or two after the ceremony.

Re:Mazel Tov

[leav]

i knew someone would add a bar-mitzvah comment :)

Re:Mazel Tov

[nytes]

Nonsense! Now it is ready the the Klingon Age of Ascension!

Weapons are the proper gift for such a warrior as this!

Qapla'!

Re:13 going on DEAD

[carlmenezes]

OK Darl, you can come out now...we know it's you...and Bill...I can see you hiding behind him.

feed the trolls

[Tracer_Bullet82]

I usually like to feed the trolls, but this is getting ridiculuos.

My birthday is more famous than I thought!

[Buran]

Amazing... I share my birthday with Linux! (but I'm 29 today, not 10!)

Re:My birthday is more famous than I thought!

[ecliptic_1]

How about that, you, me & The Slashdolt (518657) are all 29 today.

Is it too early in the day to hit the strip club?

Re:My birthday is more famous than I thought!

[Buran]

Do they have male strippers? :p (yep, I'm one of those rare female posters!)

Isnt This When

[otterpop378]

It starts getting all angry, and going "I hate you mom and dad". Next thing you know, it's going to have a Live Journal and spend the whole day listening to Linkin Park in the garage. Great. Just what we need.

At least Mac OS can vote.
Next year, i'm taking it out to a bar!

13 is the unlucky birthday!

[curtlewis]

Could this mean that Linux will die this year?

Yup, right along with Apple. They've been slated to fold ever year for the last 20 years.

Welcome to the club, Linux! And Happy Birthday!

Re:13 is the unlucky birthday!

[mpeach]

Nah, penguins apparently live up to around 20 years so Tux should have a good few left yet at least.

That said, I'm not sure whether Tux *is* Linux in Penguin form, or if Tux is in fact the spawn of Linux?

If the latter is the case Tux will definitely be around a bit longer than seven more years. I admittedly don't know the lifespan of a Linux.

Just more proof, Linux is dying!

[b00m3rang]

Ooooooh, burn! How do /you/ like it? Yeah, kind of stupid, isn't it?

It'll start needing Tux Medicated Pads anytime now

[b00m3rang]

Ouch!

What a coincidence.

[Anonymous Coward]

Most Linux users are also 13.

Happy Birthday to Me

[Anonymous Coward]

That's really weird. My birthday is August 25 and my sister's birthday is September 17 (not in the same year, of course).

Any day now my mother will tell me that Linus is our father.

Windows 95 Kick off Aug 25th 1994

[servicepack158]

Weeeeeird Windows is da debil.

Re:Windows 95 Kick off Aug 25th 1994

[JakeThompson1]

You mean August 24, 1995.

Oblig. Family Guy refference

[logic hack]

Quagmire: How old are you? Girl: 16 Quagmire: 18? Good, you'll be first. Girl: Mooooom! Quagmire: I like where this is going.

Go Linux!

[Anonymous Coward]

I've been using Linux over 10 years.

It's good to see Linux systems around world now.

Installing the Slackware distribution with 5.24" disks on 386 machine. :)

Re:Today is my birthday too

[Anonymous Coward]

I am 24 today. August 25th 1980 :-)

Happy Birthday?

[JAD lifter]

Happy birthday Linux!

AOL!
AOL!


This is not crapflooding. Look it up.

linux (not linus!) now soon needs a girl friend...

[Anonymous Coward]

.... 13years old... puberty and all that, sexual experiences about to start, right?

will linux need some rating soon? i guess currently its rated PG13 in the usofa.

interesting time will be nr17 (or what was it called again), R and X?

--
rated SCO

Simple to fix

[Lord Kano]

linus: what are you rebeling against?

tux: whadda ya got?

Linus:Rebelliousness

tux:Ummm, ok. Let's get back to work then.

LK

Re:frsit psot

[Anonymous Coward]

Shame...

13 years of progess

[Anonymous Coward]

13 years and it still sucks. nice job!

Where is Darl?

[Anonymous Coward]

Darl should be screaming that SCO is the true parent of UNIX, but they refuse to take a paternity test.

Wow

[Anonymous Coward]

13 years and linux still sucks!

Thank you!

[PeteQC]

You must be very proud parents.

We're so proud of our little Linux!

-Santa Claus & Tooth Fairy

My Birthday Too!

[Anonymous Coward]

great minds think a like... Happy Birthday little buddy

To celebrate...

[TLouden]

...I just got our school (1600students) to start using 3 more open source products. Haven't manage the switch to linux on 500+ PCs but small steps work better sometimes.

Had a girlfriend born on August 25th

[Anonymous Coward]

She was a total nutcase...

Linux Doesn't Exist

[Anonymous Coward]

But don't be too proud! Remember, Linux doesn't exist ;) (according to formerly-caldera).