You know what really sucks, mainly older folks will be able to go up (as mainly older folks have that kind of cash to burn) and the time to enjoy something like space is at young ripe age...how many 80 year olds can survive the take off. It's a health hazard to say the least.
Well I better find me a rich wife.
The price is 100 grand now, it will come down - first the insane rich will buy it, then the ultra rich, then the corporations for their big clients, then the rich, and eventually we will..I would wager 10-15 years
A few people have said this, but I have seen too many modern day cars that let you keep reving the engine until your RPM gauge's pin is looking at 5 o'clock.
Also around 1996 a person i knew had a Pontiac Bonneville that got stolen and trashed (piss on the seat, drugs all over the place, was crashed, etc)...to ensure that the insurance company wouldn't just try and repair it he put it in neutral, put a brick on the pedal and let it run for a bit...eventually it stopped running - and not for lack of gas...
Lowering the gear is a better choice then neutral by far. In neutral you will GREATLY over rev the engine - blowing pistons...while unlikely a piston could fly your way (and yes they can punch a hole through your engine block).
Also, putting the car in a lower gear will drastically slow your car, and by going all the way down to first gear you can get your car slowed down to about 25 (downhill), and even slower on flat ground or if lucky, uphill.
Some steep downhills in PA have these dirt uphill "off ramps" that are in place if a truck loses control. These allow the truck to get off the road, as well as go uphill to come to a stop.
That won't work because they will swear that it was a drug enduced hoax as they were captured by some evil radical scientists (NASA) and anally raped.
Little do they realize that they were anally raped by their fathers best friend Eziechial when they were 5 and they just had a flashback.
What are you nuts? Do something useful for our world? We need more WMD's, because after we nuke the planet to hell and back, we want to make sure we get all the cockroaches by using anti-matter weapons on them.
With luck, after we create anti-matter weapons - the vulcans will come here, smack some sense into our leadership and those of us who want can leave on a space ship with warp drive and hot vulcan chicks:D
Please note that your statement does not confer the meaning that programs like FireFox cannot view 99.999% of the sites on the web.
I have only encountered one website (other then MS windows update page) that gives me a problem via FireFox, and then it is only a loss of part of its functionality.
So, unfortunately, a company that was more interested in creating a product for its consumers is now forced to play the political game - and forced to pay the thugs...I mean our politicians money so they are not sued as much by the gov't.
In this case, MS is the good guy.
Banks don't change because:
1) they are notoriously cheap, even when changing would save them money in the long run (i.e. more efficient software/hardware).
2) They are old school - they had change - they like stability. They refuse to use new technology because it might not work properly
Most people stay the same not because they are cheap, but because they like familiarity and convenience. People are familiar with Windows, and Windows has typically and still is more convenient to use then Linux (read: it is easier to use windows then linux for the majority of the people out there).
It isn't about what is the best it is about what is the easiest (for consumers).
I used to work in banking and all customer service studies show that customers choose their banks based on convenience and familiarity OVER price savings.
Sometimes, unfortunately, people mod things in a negative manner because they do not agree with it. I have had many of my posts modded down because the mod did not agree with my post...i.e. receiving flamebait when it was obviously not a flame...oh well here comes another negative mod point my way---luckily I am in Excellent status:)
Well with respect to the number points (for ease of answering) I will utilize the same method.
1)The EULA writers obviously agree to the terms as they wrote the EULA. The person who reads the EULA accepts it at the time of installing or running the program for the first time. The date stamp of when you agreed to the EULA is shown on the installation date or first usage date of the software
2) Both parties are receiving something of benefit. The software company receives money and a gaurentee that you will not violate their agreement or you will be sued (at their option). The consumer of the product gets the benefit of using the software. I do not see how there is duress? You are not forced to utilize the software. Nobody placed a gun to your head (hopefully) and said "agree to this EULA or die."
3)You are correct a contract may not contain illegal terms - but I am sure MS has evaluated the legality of their EULA, and if they missed something - I am sure someone else (with a valid law degree) didn't miss the flaws.
4)People who utilize computers generally have the capacity to enter an agreement - and if they are so mentally handicapped that they cannot - they probably are not qualified to willingly engage in things like software piracy. On the other hand - by forcing your dog to press the mouse button would mean you are putting him under duress and you must be violating a ton of civil liberty, criminal and animal rights laws;)
In all seriousness, there is always exceptions and a case needs to be handeled situation by situation. While most people shit on the EULAs and still engage in piracy, they are mainly operating on the basis of anonymity. Someone who holds a valid EULA, should they decide to prosecute - has a good chance of winning.
It sounds obvious, and it is. They do not have to have the groups in different parts of the US. They just have to us 9 out of 10 doctors recommend crest* (*data from survey done for doctors in the US)....this is just as valid as specifying the region to the SE. Considering that a dentist in SE USA is the same as a dentist in NW USA breaking down the region should not matter.
But as you said a more "truthful" approach would be better, but it won't happen...
The ebay/amazon issue is fairly simple. They don't want to have to deal with lawsuits from MS so they are just stemming the issue. Even if the law is on their side, MS has money to throw into legal action and it is more money then ebay/amazon are willing/able to spend.
where gartner is pulling this "data" from, I don't know
It is not too difficult to make the numbers work for you even if they initially did not.
A good example my old macroecon prof told me. Take 40 doctors. Split them into 4 columns (10 each column, like a classroom setting). Ask all of the doctors to fill out a questionnaire if they recommend Crest toothpaste. Lets say column 1 has 5 doctors who recommend it, column 2 has 3 doctors that recommend it, column 3 has 7 doctors who recommend it, and column 4 has 9 doctors who recommend it. Well 9 out of 10 doctors recommend Crest toothpaste over the other leading brands.
Again, this is not an uncommon tactic in marketing.
Civil Laws can be superseded by contracts, unless the contract violates criminal laws.
For example, in PA there is the "Employment At Will" law which means that an employee can quit anytime s/he desires, and a company can fire an employee anytime s/he desires. Neither party needs to give a reason, and they cannot be held accountable for terminating the employment.
HOWEVER, companies make contracts all the time in PA regarding employment terms of services. These contracts supersede the "Employment at will" law.
Same thing - as long as the MS EULA does not create an illegal action then it is perfectly suitable to superseded other laws.
Ever try using a campus network during say --- class registration times? They tend to get bogged down, and sometimes you can't even access the website. There are always the students who play networking games and hog up the bandwidth - coupeled with every student trying to view the course catalogs and before you know it - people can't connect.
Also, if you are using the school provided network you have to play by their rules which may restrict things like file sharing programs. You may also not want the school to know what sites you are hitting...
Personally I think it is lame...lets say I have a wireless access point hidden behind my clothes, in a box, how is the school going to track it down to me? It is going to be hard as hell, if not impossible. Someone mentioned hot plate and microwaves - never stopped my dorm-mates... dry campus --- never stopped me from sneaking in a keg or two on the weekend:)
On a side note, I wonder what IP scheme the school is utilizing for their network...are they using the default 192.168.0.1? If so then they are probably getting a lot of students who bought their linksys/netgear routers and left it at the default IP scheme - presenting problems when connecting to the school network (i.e. VPN)... Though an easy fix for the school would be to change their IP scheme to something that is not so commonly used (10.10.xx.xx)
My 4 cents:)
I bought my parents a Dell laptop, which did not come with a floppy drive as standard (weak) so I bought them one with it. While I may not use it 99% of the time --- there is that 1% of the time that I will use it - and that 1% of the time will be the MOST crucial period.
So the hell with Billy's prediction, floppy is still useful.
Ok, now all of you realize that all this speak of transporting DVD copies through interstate highways, as well as through international borders must be breaking a ton of laws here right?
Now lets quell this speak about illegal actions that are typically in the hands of the EVIL mafia and return to our regularly scheduled programs of "backing up" our DVD movies.:)
Number 1 always gets the most attention, and a lot of hated attention (even if not deserved). MS is the biggest OS producer, their founder is the number 1 richest man in the world...they hold a lot of number ones. I have just seen to many/. posters instantly flame MS for one reason or another when they didn't even deserve it. For example a day or two ago there was/. article about Bill G. talking about Longhorne. He got blasted by some posters saying that he is just doing this for the free press. If this was say the creators of Half - Life 2 giving us an update, we would praise them for coming out.
That is what I am talking about...when MS does something bad blast them, but when they do something good give them some credit...
Or I can continue to hang out here. I am not for any propganda, the MS kind or any others. And there is plenty of propoganda here which pretty much gears MS as the root of all evil...
It's SOP on/. to instantly hate anything that is 1) MS or MS related or 2) not open source.
The nature of the topic matters not, mention one of the above two and you will get people instantly shooting it down - and probably getting positive mods too:)
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You know what really sucks, mainly older folks will be able to go up (as mainly older folks have that kind of cash to burn) and the time to enjoy something like space is at young ripe age...how many 80 year olds can survive the take off. It's a health hazard to say the least.
Well I better find me a rich wife.
The price is 100 grand now, it will come down - first the insane rich will buy it, then the ultra rich, then the corporations for their big clients, then the rich, and eventually we will..I would wager 10-15 years
The ID was a wedding present, the dollar jar went to the wife in exchange to let him have the penny jar.
A few people have said this, but I have seen too many modern day cars that let you keep reving the engine until your RPM gauge's pin is looking at 5 o'clock.
Also around 1996 a person i knew had a Pontiac Bonneville that got stolen and trashed (piss on the seat, drugs all over the place, was crashed, etc)...to ensure that the insurance company wouldn't just try and repair it he put it in neutral, put a brick on the pedal and let it run for a bit...eventually it stopped running - and not for lack of gas...
Lowering the gear is a better choice then neutral by far. In neutral you will GREATLY over rev the engine - blowing pistons...while unlikely a piston could fly your way (and yes they can punch a hole through your engine block).
Also, putting the car in a lower gear will drastically slow your car, and by going all the way down to first gear you can get your car slowed down to about 25 (downhill), and even slower on flat ground or if lucky, uphill.
Some steep downhills in PA have these dirt uphill "off ramps" that are in place if a truck loses control. These allow the truck to get off the road, as well as go uphill to come to a stop.
That won't work because they will swear that it was a drug enduced hoax as they were captured by some evil radical scientists (NASA) and anally raped.
Little do they realize that they were anally raped by their fathers best friend Eziechial when they were 5 and they just had a flashback.
What are you nuts? Do something useful for our world? We need more WMD's, because after we nuke the planet to hell and back, we want to make sure we get all the cockroaches by using anti-matter weapons on them. :D
With luck, after we create anti-matter weapons - the vulcans will come here, smack some sense into our leadership and those of us who want can leave on a space ship with warp drive and hot vulcan chicks
Please note that your statement does not confer the meaning that programs like FireFox cannot view 99.999% of the sites on the web.
I have only encountered one website (other then MS windows update page) that gives me a problem via FireFox, and then it is only a loss of part of its functionality.
So, unfortunately, a company that was more interested in creating a product for its consumers is now forced to play the political game - and forced to pay the thugs...I mean our politicians money so they are not sued as much by the gov't.
In this case, MS is the good guy.
Banks don't change because:
1) they are notoriously cheap, even when changing would save them money in the long run (i.e. more efficient software/hardware).
2) They are old school - they had change - they like stability. They refuse to use new technology because it might not work properly
Most people stay the same not because they are cheap, but because they like familiarity and convenience. People are familiar with Windows, and Windows has typically and still is more convenient to use then Linux (read: it is easier to use windows then linux for the majority of the people out there).
It isn't about what is the best it is about what is the easiest (for consumers).
I used to work in banking and all customer service studies show that customers choose their banks based on convenience and familiarity OVER price savings.
Sometimes, unfortunately, people mod things in a negative manner because they do not agree with it. I have had many of my posts modded down because the mod did not agree with my post...i.e. receiving flamebait when it was obviously not a flame...oh well here comes another negative mod point my way---luckily I am in Excellent status :)
Well with respect to the number points (for ease of answering) I will utilize the same method. ;)
1)The EULA writers obviously agree to the terms as they wrote the EULA. The person who reads the EULA accepts it at the time of installing or running the program for the first time. The date stamp of when you agreed to the EULA is shown on the installation date or first usage date of the software
2) Both parties are receiving something of benefit. The software company receives money and a gaurentee that you will not violate their agreement or you will be sued (at their option). The consumer of the product gets the benefit of using the software. I do not see how there is duress? You are not forced to utilize the software. Nobody placed a gun to your head (hopefully) and said "agree to this EULA or die."
3)You are correct a contract may not contain illegal terms - but I am sure MS has evaluated the legality of their EULA, and if they missed something - I am sure someone else (with a valid law degree) didn't miss the flaws.
4)People who utilize computers generally have the capacity to enter an agreement - and if they are so mentally handicapped that they cannot - they probably are not qualified to willingly engage in things like software piracy. On the other hand - by forcing your dog to press the mouse button would mean you are putting him under duress and you must be violating a ton of civil liberty, criminal and animal rights laws
In all seriousness, there is always exceptions and a case needs to be handeled situation by situation. While most people shit on the EULAs and still engage in piracy, they are mainly operating on the basis of anonymity. Someone who holds a valid EULA, should they decide to prosecute - has a good chance of winning.
It sounds obvious, and it is. They do not have to have the groups in different parts of the US. They just have to us 9 out of 10 doctors recommend crest* (*data from survey done for doctors in the US)....this is just as valid as specifying the region to the SE. Considering that a dentist in SE USA is the same as a dentist in NW USA breaking down the region should not matter.
But as you said a more "truthful" approach would be better, but it won't happen...
The Sun to turn black and the moon to bleed red.
Better yet:
Cats and dogs, living together....
The ebay/amazon issue is fairly simple. They don't want to have to deal with lawsuits from MS so they are just stemming the issue. Even if the law is on their side, MS has money to throw into legal action and it is more money then ebay/amazon are willing/able to spend.
where gartner is pulling this "data" from, I don't know
It is not too difficult to make the numbers work for you even if they initially did not.
A good example my old macroecon prof told me. Take 40 doctors. Split them into 4 columns (10 each column, like a classroom setting). Ask all of the doctors to fill out a questionnaire if they recommend Crest toothpaste. Lets say column 1 has 5 doctors who recommend it, column 2 has 3 doctors that recommend it, column 3 has 7 doctors who recommend it, and column 4 has 9 doctors who recommend it. Well 9 out of 10 doctors recommend Crest toothpaste over the other leading brands.
Again, this is not an uncommon tactic in marketing.
Civil Laws can be superseded by contracts, unless the contract violates criminal laws.
For example, in PA there is the "Employment At Will" law which means that an employee can quit anytime s/he desires, and a company can fire an employee anytime s/he desires. Neither party needs to give a reason, and they cannot be held accountable for terminating the employment.
HOWEVER, companies make contracts all the time in PA regarding employment terms of services. These contracts supersede the "Employment at will" law.
Same thing - as long as the MS EULA does not create an illegal action then it is perfectly suitable to superseded other laws.
Ever try using a campus network during say --- class registration times? They tend to get bogged down, and sometimes you can't even access the website. There are always the students who play networking games and hog up the bandwidth - coupeled with every student trying to view the course catalogs and before you know it - people can't connect. :) :)
Also, if you are using the school provided network you have to play by their rules which may restrict things like file sharing programs. You may also not want the school to know what sites you are hitting...
Personally I think it is lame...lets say I have a wireless access point hidden behind my clothes, in a box, how is the school going to track it down to me? It is going to be hard as hell, if not impossible. Someone mentioned hot plate and microwaves - never stopped my dorm-mates... dry campus --- never stopped me from sneaking in a keg or two on the weekend
On a side note, I wonder what IP scheme the school is utilizing for their network...are they using the default 192.168.0.1? If so then they are probably getting a lot of students who bought their linksys/netgear routers and left it at the default IP scheme - presenting problems when connecting to the school network (i.e. VPN)... Though an easy fix for the school would be to change their IP scheme to something that is not so commonly used (10.10.xx.xx)
My 4 cents
I bought my parents a Dell laptop, which did not come with a floppy drive as standard (weak) so I bought them one with it. While I may not use it 99% of the time --- there is that 1% of the time that I will use it - and that 1% of the time will be the MOST crucial period.
So the hell with Billy's prediction, floppy is still useful.
Ok, now all of you realize that all this speak of transporting DVD copies through interstate highways, as well as through international borders must be breaking a ton of laws here right? :)
Now lets quell this speak about illegal actions that are typically in the hands of the EVIL mafia and return to our regularly scheduled programs of "backing up" our DVD movies.
Dude...your Vulcan speak is freaking me out man... ;)
Number 1 always gets the most attention, and a lot of hated attention (even if not deserved). MS is the biggest OS producer, their founder is the number 1 richest man in the world...they hold a lot of number ones. I have just seen to many /. posters instantly flame MS for one reason or another when they didn't even deserve it. For example a day or two ago there was /. article about Bill G. talking about Longhorne. He got blasted by some posters saying that he is just doing this for the free press. If this was say the creators of Half - Life 2 giving us an update, we would praise them for coming out.
That is what I am talking about...when MS does something bad blast them, but when they do something good give them some credit...
Or I can continue to hang out here. I am not for any propganda, the MS kind or any others. And there is plenty of propoganda here which pretty much gears MS as the root of all evil...
It's SOP on /. to instantly hate anything that is 1) MS or MS related or 2) not open source.
:)
The nature of the topic matters not, mention one of the above two and you will get people instantly shooting it down - and probably getting positive mods too
Only if you consider space to be a "Metropolitan Area Network"...I would consider space to be a GWAN (GODLY WIDE AREA NETWORK) ---my own term :)
NASA and other scientists do realize this - it is just a feel good for the common masses.