I think the real question here is whether or not you should put an 's' at the end of email. Do you put an 's' at the end of mail? Probably not. So what makes email different?
Why do people always need to pick a dramatic solution? Just take some time out to refactor your code. That will be a lot cheaper and more effective than going through this exercise your IT chief has planned. I've gotta ask why are you putting up with this headache to begin with. Go somewhere where they unit test so refactoring is practical, and where the big chiefs are not allowed to read "Development for Dummies"
Did you miss the point that they squandered their place in the market as a result of doing this? For all practical purposes, they torpedoed themseleves.
They went through the same thing with Netscape 4.0, which was a total re-write. The product was late and their place in the market began to erode.
So as I see it, at least twice they eroded market position for the satisfaction of throwing out Joes old code. "Never could read that code, and I didn't like that guy anyway"
I once worked for a financial institution as a Software Engineer. It took them 8 months to install a debugger on my development machine. That's the way they do things. It had to go thrgough security, the IT heirarchy, and the change control group. The fact that I couldn't be productive without a debugger didn't even enter into the equation.
If you want light on your feet, go work for a software company. I bet you don't worrry about whether or not they are going to pay you this week. With security comes overhead. Deal with it...
His whole perspective reduces people to cash cow-asaurus. The guy doesn't even live in this world. He comes across as someone needing to be beaten with a clue stick.
How in the world are you going to track down malicious hackers if they can connect from anywhere they want? Isn't physical access one of the only ways you can hold people accountable for thier behavior?
"many of them Constitution class"
"gripping"
I think we have a fan here.
Personally I found both TNG and DS9 pedantic, boring, and contrived. [but there were some cool special effects every once in a while]
All the new Start Treks are basically soap operas. I don't have time to worry about the interpersonal relationships of fantasy people portrayed by "B" actors. I've got enough on my plate worrying about real relationships with real people. I just have to go to work to get the Soap Opera.
ST:TNG was always lame. Heavy handed moralizing concatenated with a plot line where it was clear they were making it all up as they went along and didn't have a clue as to the caveats of the underlying technologies. The Holo deck became a mechanism they used to get themselves out of corners they'd painted themselves into with poor writing.
The others, well I always thought vulcans were green...
Did you even read the article? The whole point is that they want to track how many descreet users hit the web site. They don't want you and your wife counting as 1. Saying you "logged" anything is apples and oranges.
Assuming that requirements and desired metrics for a web site are the same as that of distributing something on printed paper that you have to lug to each customer is probably a bad assumption.
> are the colonists on a one-way trip akin to
> exile
How dramatic. Frankly bub, it's none of your business what other people do. Why don't you tend to your own knitting?
You don't know what you are talking about. They did not develop the first commercial programming language for a personal computer.
First of all, Basic is arguably not a commercial programming language.
Second, they didn't do it first.
I'm 38 years old. When I went to public high-school the standard academic track required several years of foreign language, math through analytic geometry, history, etc. That was the standard track, there was the proletariate track but nobody from the proletariate is reading this anyway, and then there was the college prep track. That meant a year of high school calculus and several CP classes (you get college credit in hight school). This is just not the expectation in schools that I've been exposed to in the the last few years.
We are getting lazy as a society. Most programmers that I meet who are fresh out of college are technicians at best (not academics). As a society we have to stop treating college like trade school, get off our fat bums and actually do some real studying. The people we are competing against are surely studying right now, and they are smart. I predict that most citizens will be driving delivery trucks and handing our cheeseburgers for a living soon. Wait a minute...
Computer programming is anything but stressful in my experience. What creates stress are the folks who are bored with their lives and feel the need to make everything an "emergency". It's all a matter of what style of work environment you want. If you can't retrain your managment to stop with the constant crisis thing, find a new job.
Bullshit. If you don't understand the runtime architecture you are using (not likely if you haven't thought about things from a machine language level) you can't code effectively. Just look at boxing in C#.
It's a contrived simple assembler they used to use at AT&T to teach programmers assembler. This is not a new concept. This kind of touches on one of my themes, that being that most younger computer science people are mere technicians who are in the field to make money, not because they love it. They don't have a clue about the history of their discipline, nor do they care. I really see this in the the 15 to 30 year olds. 99 times out of 100 they really don't have much of a clue. In a way I feel sad for them, because they didn't experience things before the huge monolithic companies (you know the cube farm sweat shops like Adobe and Apple and Microsoft) got on the scene and pushed lots of wonderful products off the market through business muscle and not survival of the best product. I also feel sad when I try to hire people. Most graduates that I interview know a whole bunch about Visual Basic and SQL, and not much else. (In other words they have no real training at all)
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This is nothing new. That technique was a standard before the polygon technique became feasible.
Well, puttin an 's' at the end of email doesn't build confidence...
I think the real question here is whether or not you should put an 's' at the end of email. Do you put an 's' at the end of mail? Probably not. So what makes email different?
Why do people always need to pick a dramatic solution? Just take some time out to refactor your code. That will be a lot cheaper and more effective than going through this exercise your IT chief has planned. I've gotta ask why are you putting up with this headache to begin with. Go somewhere where they unit test so refactoring is practical, and where the big chiefs are not allowed to read "Development for Dummies"
Did you miss the point that they squandered their place in the market as a result of doing this? For all practical purposes, they torpedoed themseleves. They went through the same thing with Netscape 4.0, which was a total re-write. The product was late and their place in the market began to erode. So as I see it, at least twice they eroded market position for the satisfaction of throwing out Joes old code. "Never could read that code, and I didn't like that guy anyway"
I once worked for a financial institution as a Software Engineer. It took them 8 months to install a debugger on my development machine. That's the way they do things. It had to go thrgough security, the IT heirarchy, and the change control group. The fact that I couldn't be productive without a debugger didn't even enter into the equation. If you want light on your feet, go work for a software company. I bet you don't worrry about whether or not they are going to pay you this week. With security comes overhead. Deal with it...
This is really old news. There was a big broo-ha-ha over this a couple of years ago. Lots of articles.
His whole perspective reduces people to cash cow-asaurus. The guy doesn't even live in this world. He comes across as someone needing to be beaten with a clue stick.
How in the world are you going to track down malicious hackers if they can connect from anywhere they want? Isn't physical access one of the only ways you can hold people accountable for thier behavior?
"many of them Constitution class" "gripping" I think we have a fan here. Personally I found both TNG and DS9 pedantic, boring, and contrived. [but there were some cool special effects every once in a while] All the new Start Treks are basically soap operas. I don't have time to worry about the interpersonal relationships of fantasy people portrayed by "B" actors. I've got enough on my plate worrying about real relationships with real people. I just have to go to work to get the Soap Opera.
>still bought too much oil for their 7mpg gas >guzzlers You phrase it in the past tense. I don't see any change on this one.
ST:TNG was always lame. Heavy handed moralizing concatenated with a plot line where it was clear they were making it all up as they went along and didn't have a clue as to the caveats of the underlying technologies. The Holo deck became a mechanism they used to get themselves out of corners they'd painted themselves into with poor writing. The others, well I always thought vulcans were green...
Did you even read the article? The whole point is that they want to track how many descreet users hit the web site. They don't want you and your wife counting as 1. Saying you "logged" anything is apples and oranges. Assuming that requirements and desired metrics for a web site are the same as that of distributing something on printed paper that you have to lug to each customer is probably a bad assumption.
> are the colonists on a one-way trip akin to > exile How dramatic. Frankly bub, it's none of your business what other people do. Why don't you tend to your own knitting?
You don't know what you are talking about. They did not develop the first commercial programming language for a personal computer. First of all, Basic is arguably not a commercial programming language. Second, they didn't do it first.
>>develop[ed] the first commercial programming >>language for a personal microcomputer. >Which is a true statement. Poppycock. You are wrong.
>The scientists that developed the LASER, RADAR, Were not American. Get your facts straight before you post.
I'm 38 years old. When I went to public high-school the standard academic track required several years of foreign language, math through analytic geometry, history, etc. That was the standard track, there was the proletariate track but nobody from the proletariate is reading this anyway, and then there was the college prep track. That meant a year of high school calculus and several CP classes (you get college credit in hight school). This is just not the expectation in schools that I've been exposed to in the the last few years. We are getting lazy as a society. Most programmers that I meet who are fresh out of college are technicians at best (not academics). As a society we have to stop treating college like trade school, get off our fat bums and actually do some real studying. The people we are competing against are surely studying right now, and they are smart. I predict that most citizens will be driving delivery trucks and handing our cheeseburgers for a living soon. Wait a minute...
Computer programming is anything but stressful in my experience. What creates stress are the folks who are bored with their lives and feel the need to make everything an "emergency". It's all a matter of what style of work environment you want. If you can't retrain your managment to stop with the constant crisis thing, find a new job.
Here! Here! A person after my own heart.
Bullshit. If you don't understand the runtime architecture you are using (not likely if you haven't thought about things from a machine language level) you can't code effectively. Just look at boxing in C#.
It's a contrived simple assembler they used to use at AT&T to teach programmers assembler. This is not a new concept. This kind of touches on one of my themes, that being that most younger computer science people are mere technicians who are in the field to make money, not because they love it. They don't have a clue about the history of their discipline, nor do they care. I really see this in the the 15 to 30 year olds. 99 times out of 100 they really don't have much of a clue. In a way I feel sad for them, because they didn't experience things before the huge monolithic companies (you know the cube farm sweat shops like Adobe and Apple and Microsoft) got on the scene and pushed lots of wonderful products off the market through business muscle and not survival of the best product. I also feel sad when I try to hire people. Most graduates that I interview know a whole bunch about Visual Basic and SQL, and not much else. (In other words they have no real training at all)