You're going to get your wish. It's Mac OSX vs. Windows XP for the back to school season. Read Mini when the first Vista delay came down. It's not just Macnazis worried about Apple's next bite out of the market.
Along with Wal-Mart getting into the computer building business, we might see some interesting things happening in the next six months.
I don't hate Windows with the passion of a thousand fiery suns, but I know people who were waiting for Vista who will wander into the Apple Store now. My house has Linux, Windows, and OSX, but that situation is rare.
I'd be happy to see your statistics about how much people love Windows.
The best you can do in real life is drive defensively, leave time to react, and be aware of your surroundings. Those behaviors don't end collisions, but they might minimize them.
There are so many variables to keep track of, and so many possible scenarios, that a data miner probably can't handle the complexity of "that guy is swerving and changing lanes without signaling, so I'd better keep my distance from him to the extent that I can". It probably requires some kind of reasoning agent with a specialized vocabulary (like a set of microtheories in Cyc). Needless to say, that's a long way off.
I don't think the Urban Challenge is about that part of driving. I think it's a recognition that the definitions of road and obstacle start to blur when you get into the city. For instance, you can't just drive anywhere you want on blacktop. You might get your agent speeding through a grocery store parking lot.
"You are told exactly where to go with visible lines, lights, signs, etc which are all designed to be noticed and easily intepreted."
I think this will take more effort than you are portraying. Humans interpret signs easily; computers don't. Humans also look out while they're driving and know which parts of the scene to focus on. More than one sign is visible at any one time. Also, the computer has to see the signs, and has to know where to look. The computer vision portion of the vehicles will have to be stellar to work in real time. Finally, like I said, the way the computer reasons about the signs will require some pretty heavy programming to induce proper behavior. Whether it's humans writing the driving policy or it's induced by some kind of simulation (and it would have to be a pretty detailed simulation to carry over into the real world), changing the policy in real time could be one of the hardest parts of this challenge.
That's very different than what Stanley was doing to win the Grand Challenge, which was roughly to find the road and stay on it at speed. The Urban Challenge has many more moving parts.
The President broke the law. AT&T gave customer data on millions of people to the feds and allowed them to tap all their pipes to data mine Americans' private phone calls. EFF sued them for violating FISA, the 4th Amendment, and for the AT&T customers whose private data was handed.
One witness, one expert, and a few internal documents filed, and Bush asserts a State Secrets Privilege; the lawsuit cannot continue. What did he not want us to know?
I don't know how to connect the dots any more obviously. If you don't smell a rat, I suggest you update your BS detector.
The NSA's no-longer-secret surveillance program came under a two-pronged attack this week on both political and legal fronts. Sen. Arlen Specter of Pennsylvania threatens to cut funding to NSA's spying program if President Bush's administration does not come clean on how it works. Separately, two hearing dates have been set for a lawsuit that seeks to prove that AT&T illegally cooperated with the NSA and violated federal wiretapping laws in doing so. Sen. Specter emphasized that he doesn't want the issue to fade into the background, saying that he'd like to see 'public concern and public indignation build up.'"
Translation from Washington speak: Sen. Specter delayed real action on the President's illegal spying program again, citing lack of public concern and public indignation. "I've got my finger in the wind, but I can't tell which way it's blowing," the Senator said.
Don't expect Specter to go anywhere with this inquiry unless he is dragged there kicking and screaming. He's just threatening to threaten to be a threat.
Thank the EFF for suing AT&T. It could take a long time (remember SCO v. IBM?) but at least someone could get arrested. The fine for FISA violations is up to $10000 per violation, so AT&T might be in for the punishment of a life time for colluding with the illegal program.
Do robots make typos? Do they make the same typos each time, or different ones?
Therein lies the true heart of a proper detector.
I don't make typos, but that doesnt mean I'm not a robot.
Google has a huge vested interested in preventing a tiered Internet.
I'm not trying to dimininsh [sic] what Vint has done in the past nor am I saying that tiered internets are good/bad, but let's face it, Vint is hardly an unbiased source.
And only mathematicians believe 2 + 2 = 4.
Critics of Vint Cerf are biased against Vint Cerf.
I am biased against Critics of Vint Cerf.
Critics of Vint Cerf are biased against my bias.
Because you respect my reputation, you are biased. Because you don't respect my reputation, you are biased. Because you disagree with my argument, you are biased. Because you don't agree or disagree with my argument, you are biased.
As long as we have chips here, we'll be able to export chip use to other countries. The chips will end civil war and promote peace, because countries with pervasive microchip implementation programs don't go to war against each other.
This bill out of Wisconsin is providing aid and comfort to our enemies. Why, I just heard Osama say how Americans implanting microchips under their skin would be a crushing blow to radical Islam.
Why do those fatcat politicians in Wisconsin hate America?
All the experts at DoJ in "closely monitoring" are too busy writing briefs on toilet paper justifying the illegal wiretap programs to apply their expertise to MS.
Plus they are trying to get ahead on the Iran invasion.
Hmmm.... a landmark decision 6 years ago, somehow connected to MS's impunity in the software marketplace. Its initials are BvG.
The President of China is visiting Bush this week, and what's the number one topic? Not nuclear proliferation, not human rights abuse. It's rips of Windows XP and the trade deficit.
Steve Ballmer Forever: This wisecracking, balding hero takes trusty chair in hand in order to fight off the Googly-eyed hordes.
Whack-a-Who-da-punk: Hit a person with no face before they destroy Microsoft from within by engaging in serious discussions about the relative inadequacy of the bloated management structure.
Thanks very much. I've read a lot of stupid stuff so far in the thread about addiction. I hope the people knocking AA and using s/God/self/g on the 12 steps listen to you. You put a spike in the idea that you can beat your addiction by yourself.
"Once men turned their thinking over to machines in hope that this would set them free. But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them."
"Thou shalt not make a machine in the likeness of a man's mind," Paul quoted.
"Right out of the Butlerian Jihad and the Orange Catholic Bible," she said.
I went to kinderstart.com like everyone else. At the top of the page is a "search engine" which consists of a search terms box and a search engine selector.
The top search engine in the selector is KinderStart, which I presume searches internal content. Google is number 5.
So KinderStart offers Google searching, but Google doesn't take you to KinderStart. So KinderStart sues Google.
Maybe they figure that Google is It and owes them tagbacks.
One person's strict constructionism is another person's extratextual bastardization. I sympathize with this position on the Constitution, because I have lived it in an analogous context (Biblical interpretation), but I have come to see it as deeply flawed special pleading. [/hermeneutics]
I'm heartened by your words that abortion and gay marriage are no longer the only part of your politics. I voted for Bush in 2000 because of abortion (in Washington State), and I've regretted it since. Real life is a bit more squishy than these single-issue stands. The Schiavo case only made that fact more clear, in my view.
Keep running with these ideas. Religious civil war in Iraq: a moral issue. Being spied on by the government: a moral issue. Poor people dying in the aftermath of a hurricane: a moral issue. All of life is a moral issue.
"... will carry a unique Super Spectral Space Camera, and will have an advanced plasma-thruster engine for propulsion."
Super Spectral Space Camera? That's nothing. The US is putting up a really unique Super Dog Duper Spectral Space Camera on its next Awesomely Rad Surveillance Satellite.
I guess they went with plasma thrusters because they couldn't get the Hyperexploding Fusion Containment Rockets done in time.
There are lots of reasons to go to the media. Here's one: to prevent manifest injustice, like a bunch of people's votes getting counted by uncertified voting machines in a presidential election. Maybe he just thought that suing a bunch of lawyers might take too long.
Think through your misplaced concern for the welfare of a conspiracy of lawyers and electioneers. Who decided it was in the state's interest to make this temp whistleblower into a felon? The same people who recertified Diebold for 2006? Diebold donation recipients? The normal channels are already failing.
The media can prosecute in the only court these politicians understand: the court of public opinion. That's the breaks in our post-9/11 dissent-free democracy.
Whose justice is being served by this felony investigation? The coverup artists, that's who. I have no power to investigate a thousand conspiracy theories every day. The people who reveal real conspiracies should get the broad latitude they need to expose them. Why you won't give this guy the benefit of the doubt and want to nitpick what he did is beyond me.
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You're going to get your wish. It's Mac OSX vs. Windows XP for the back to school season. Read Mini when the first Vista delay came down. It's not just Macnazis worried about Apple's next bite out of the market.
Along with Wal-Mart getting into the computer building business, we might see some interesting things happening in the next six months.
I don't hate Windows with the passion of a thousand fiery suns, but I know people who were waiting for Vista who will wander into the Apple Store now. My house has Linux, Windows, and OSX, but that situation is rare.
I'd be happy to see your statistics about how much people love Windows.
We're slowly moving from Goldeneye, Goldfinger, and Star Wars to The Pink Panther Strikes again.
Wake me up when we get to shark poewred lasers.
The best you can do in real life is drive defensively, leave time to react, and be aware of your surroundings. Those behaviors don't end collisions, but they might minimize them.
There are so many variables to keep track of, and so many possible scenarios, that a data miner probably can't handle the complexity of "that guy is swerving and changing lanes without signaling, so I'd better keep my distance from him to the extent that I can". It probably requires some kind of reasoning agent with a specialized vocabulary (like a set of microtheories in Cyc). Needless to say, that's a long way off.
I don't think the Urban Challenge is about that part of driving. I think it's a recognition that the definitions of road and obstacle start to blur when you get into the city. For instance, you can't just drive anywhere you want on blacktop. You might get your agent speeding through a grocery store parking lot.
"You are told exactly where to go with visible lines, lights, signs, etc which are all designed to be noticed and easily intepreted."
I think this will take more effort than you are portraying. Humans interpret signs easily; computers don't. Humans also look out while they're driving and know which parts of the scene to focus on. More than one sign is visible at any one time. Also, the computer has to see the signs, and has to know where to look. The computer vision portion of the vehicles will have to be stellar to work in real time. Finally, like I said, the way the computer reasons about the signs will require some pretty heavy programming to induce proper behavior. Whether it's humans writing the driving policy or it's induced by some kind of simulation (and it would have to be a pretty detailed simulation to carry over into the real world), changing the policy in real time could be one of the hardest parts of this challenge.
That's very different than what Stanley was doing to win the Grand Challenge, which was roughly to find the road and stay on it at speed. The Urban Challenge has many more moving parts.
The President broke the law. AT&T gave customer data on millions of people to the feds and allowed them to tap all their pipes to data mine Americans' private phone calls. EFF sued them for violating FISA, the 4th Amendment, and for the AT&T customers whose private data was handed.
One witness, one expert, and a few internal documents filed, and Bush asserts a State Secrets Privilege; the lawsuit cannot continue. What did he not want us to know?
I don't know how to connect the dots any more obviously. If you don't smell a rat, I suggest you update your BS detector.
http://www.eff.org/legal/cases/att/
I don't think you can Slashdoteffect Crooks and Liars. It hosts video all day every day. It is one of the top 20 blogs on Technorati (as of now, #17).
The NSA's no-longer-secret surveillance program came under a two-pronged attack this week on both political and legal fronts. Sen. Arlen Specter of Pennsylvania threatens to cut funding to NSA's spying program if President Bush's administration does not come clean on how it works. Separately, two hearing dates have been set for a lawsuit that seeks to prove that AT&T illegally cooperated with the NSA and violated federal wiretapping laws in doing so. Sen. Specter emphasized that he doesn't want the issue to fade into the background, saying that he'd like to see 'public concern and public indignation build up.'"
Translation from Washington speak: Sen. Specter delayed real action on the President's illegal spying program again, citing lack of public concern and public indignation. "I've got my finger in the wind, but I can't tell which way it's blowing," the Senator said.
Don't expect Specter to go anywhere with this inquiry unless he is dragged there kicking and screaming. He's just threatening to threaten to be a threat.
Thank the EFF for suing AT&T. It could take a long time (remember SCO v. IBM?) but at least someone could get arrested. The fine for FISA violations is up to $10000 per violation, so AT&T might be in for the punishment of a life time for colluding with the illegal program.
Do robots make typos? Do they make the same typos each time, or different ones? Therein lies the true heart of a proper detector. I don't make typos, but that doesnt mean I'm not a robot.
Google has a huge vested interested in preventing a tiered Internet.
I'm not trying to dimininsh [sic] what Vint has done in the past nor am I saying that tiered internets are good/bad, but let's face it, Vint is hardly an unbiased source.
And only mathematicians believe 2 + 2 = 4.
Critics of Vint Cerf are biased against Vint Cerf.
I am biased against Critics of Vint Cerf.
Critics of Vint Cerf are biased against my bias.
Because you respect my reputation, you are biased. Because you don't respect my reputation, you are biased. Because you disagree with my argument, you are biased. Because you don't agree or disagree with my argument, you are biased.
Because otherwise the terrorists would win.
As long as we have chips here, we'll be able to export chip use to other countries. The chips will end civil war and promote peace, because countries with pervasive microchip implementation programs don't go to war against each other.
This bill out of Wisconsin is providing aid and comfort to our enemies. Why, I just heard Osama say how Americans implanting microchips under their skin would be a crushing blow to radical Islam.
Why do those fatcat politicians in Wisconsin hate America?
As long as you survive the Iran deployment.
All the experts at DoJ in "closely monitoring" are too busy writing briefs on toilet paper justifying the illegal wiretap programs to apply their expertise to MS.
Plus they are trying to get ahead on the Iran invasion.
Hmmm.... a landmark decision 6 years ago, somehow connected to MS's impunity in the software marketplace. Its initials are BvG.
The President of China is visiting Bush this week, and what's the number one topic? Not nuclear proliferation, not human rights abuse. It's rips of Windows XP and the trade deficit.
Steve Ballmer Forever: This wisecracking, balding hero takes trusty chair in hand in order to fight off the Googly-eyed hordes.
Whack-a-Who-da-punk: Hit a person with no face before they destroy Microsoft from within by engaging in serious discussions about the relative inadequacy of the bloated management structure.
Windows Vista: TBA.
I bought GTA 3 for ten bucks. But now my wife and I are boycotting Wal-Mart. So I guess it evens out.
Thanks very much. I've read a lot of stupid stuff so far in the thread about addiction. I hope the people knocking AA and using s/God/self/g on the 12 steps listen to you. You put a spike in the idea that you can beat your addiction by yourself.
"Once men turned their thinking over to machines in hope that this would set them free. But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them."
"Thou shalt not make a machine in the likeness of a man's mind," Paul quoted.
"Right out of the Butlerian Jihad and the Orange Catholic Bible," she said.
Maybe it really is you and this is your way of faking an alibi for the sins of your secret self.
I'm sorry if I just ruined something for you.
I went to kinderstart.com like everyone else. At the top of the page is a "search engine" which consists of a search terms box and a search engine selector. The top search engine in the selector is KinderStart, which I presume searches internal content. Google is number 5. So KinderStart offers Google searching, but Google doesn't take you to KinderStart. So KinderStart sues Google. Maybe they figure that Google is It and owes them tagbacks.
+5 Funny. Clearly inhabited by genius today.
My mod points would wish they knew how to quit you.
Yeah, and I can't wait to see the sarcasm trolls. God knows, we supercilious trolls have been going hungry lately.
1) Read Cryptonomicon.
2) Make friends with a very rich person.
3) Create a data haven.
Just Step 1 will help.
One person's strict constructionism is another person's extratextual bastardization. I sympathize with this position on the Constitution, because I have lived it in an analogous context (Biblical interpretation), but I have come to see it as deeply flawed special pleading. [/hermeneutics]
I'm heartened by your words that abortion and gay marriage are no longer the only part of your politics. I voted for Bush in 2000 because of abortion (in Washington State), and I've regretted it since. Real life is a bit more squishy than these single-issue stands. The Schiavo case only made that fact more clear, in my view.
Keep running with these ideas. Religious civil war in Iraq: a moral issue. Being spied on by the government: a moral issue. Poor people dying in the aftermath of a hurricane: a moral issue. All of life is a moral issue.
I guess they went with plasma thrusters because they couldn't get the Hyperexploding Fusion Containment Rockets done in time.
There are lots of reasons to go to the media. Here's one: to prevent manifest injustice, like a bunch of people's votes getting counted by uncertified voting machines in a presidential election. Maybe he just thought that suing a bunch of lawyers might take too long.
Think through your misplaced concern for the welfare of a conspiracy of lawyers and electioneers. Who decided it was in the state's interest to make this temp whistleblower into a felon? The same people who recertified Diebold for 2006? Diebold donation recipients? The normal channels are already failing.
The media can prosecute in the only court these politicians understand: the court of public opinion. That's the breaks in our post-9/11 dissent-free democracy.
Whose justice is being served by this felony investigation? The coverup artists, that's who. I have no power to investigate a thousand conspiracy theories every day. The people who reveal real conspiracies should get the broad latitude they need to expose them. Why you won't give this guy the benefit of the doubt and want to nitpick what he did is beyond me.
Explain how.