I understand your point but ---in the spirit of these kinds of stories-- The REAL WTF is that they are using random strings as keys for hashes. That hardly ever makes a good design as there are always better strings to use for keys like a date or an auto-incremental number or anything.
If you really have no idea what to call the key now what makes you think you are going to know later? even if you operate between different instances of the program and thus you can't use a date, you could just concat the hostname and date or such.
IMHO not knowing the underlying implementation of library functions and objects is less problematic than not knowing how to use them to build a sane architecture..
There is a very easy way to reduce excess traffic, charge users by the GB. Both uploads and downloads. But that way they don't get to advertise "unlimited" connection.
By shutting down high usage users they are breaching their contract with the user, over selling their service and using false advertisements all at the same time.
There is a difference, when that paper was released everybody could see past their BS and realize they were wishful-thinking.
The iPod *was* lame, as in, lacking features the competition has had since the beginning, the iPod "won" by means of a) Marketing and b) The iTMS. By "won" I mean, being the biggest player, it is no the sole player by a long shot.
I don't have numbers to back this up, over half the media player owners I know own something else than an iPod, but I live in Mexico, does anyone can bring statistics about media players in the world or at least the US?
1) Orange+Purple is NOT professional. 2) It is a rip off of Snow Leopard. 3) It's still orange and gray, it's basically the new wave theme with a purple background and glaring WM buttons. 4) The WM buttons are not where Windows users are used to. 5) The WM buttons are not where OS X users are used to. 6) The WM buttons are not where Linux users are used to. 7) The WM buttons are not conforming to any usability or logic principle, in fact they just placed them exactly right to cause problems with the top panel menu. 8) Rebranding will not suddenly make the main issue with users way (OS inertia) but will help make ubuntu visually undistinctive. 9) It will alienate their surest target demographic, their current users. 10) They are doing it wrong anyway.
You've pulled this one from your ass again. The fact that older systems are...
Keep track of your own writing, here I'm answering to your point about romhacking been illegal (by itself, it's not).
Of course they're taken down[...]
So you flipflop between them been accepted and not been accepted lame game. Also you forget that as a Japanese company, and one targeted towards young audiences, Nintendo is very limited, legally economically and culturally to what it can do, but it certainly does anything withing their reach to that end.
But
As someone who has seen their posters admonishing gamers against used game stores, I can see right trough any bullshit about them caring for the law.
This last one is the one that everybody takes as sacred but it is going to be taken from under their noses without even bothering.
I'm tired of your flipflopping and context switching, won't bother with you anymore.
Used to be, it hasn't been legally possible since the DMCA.
Distributing romhacks has never been legal
The writing the patches and applying them to you own roms was legal, before the DMCA. (But yes for old consoles it's still possible).
and the same goes for ROMs, no matter how old.
Never said they were, but perhaps I could've been much clearer.
But Nintendo have never "came for" the guys who make emulators. And seeing how easy it is to google and download roms from websites I'd guess they haven't really put much effort into taking down rom sites either.
Obviously you aren't very into the romhacking or you'd know about the many rom sites that have fallen, hidden, taken down etc. And in fact just linking to available roms is banned even in romhacking forums.
That the roms are still available is more about the persistence of the sites.
I don't know if you are just ignorant or right out lying.
Everything but the last point is now illegal, the last point is a prediction, anyone who remembers Nintendo's long held anti-second hand games propaganda campaigns or Sony's recent hardware locked subscriptions scheme knows they are already targeting first sale rights, it's only a matter of time.
This is pretty much how this is going to end in meme form:
First they came for those selling counterfeit games, but I did not speak because I don't play counterfeit games.
Then they came for those rip games for personal use, but I did not speak because I don't rip modern games.
Then they came for those who play decades old games on emulators, but I did not speak because I don't play on emulators.
Then they came for those making novel romhacks, but I did not speak because I don't play romhacks.
Then they came for users of homebrew games and applications, but I did not speak because I don't play homebrew games or use homebrew applications.
Then they came for users who keep backups of legally owned games, but I did not speak because I don't bother keeping backups even if I have to buy again the occasional game.
Finally they are battling against my right of first sale because I though these companies actually gave a shit about law and there was no one left for me to speak because they had their voice silenced by a worldwide three strikes law.
Could we stop arguing whether Google is doing this because they have too few or too much minority workers or the merits of Affirmative action and start talking about how hypocrite and wrong is that corporations can have private secrets as if they were people but those same corporations routinely down play or right out ridicule the idea that privacy is a natural right and need of actual people?
Thanks, for that. You have to admit that's kind of a new feature, last time I checked changing the container required editing a config file and did work 100% right.
That other button the the lower right corner, what happened with fits law? Are they seriously going to put configuration options in one of the most accesible spots in the screen?
FolderViews, you can get rid of them but only if you never want to put documents in the desktop, but given a choice between a FolderView and a Dolphin window I have to choose Dolphin.
Those annoying popping decorations around widgets. I'd ask for an option to lock them (which it probably grew by now) but I hate widgets in general.
That's all I remember right now, ok so those aren't a lot of complains and they would be so glaring if you hadn't have to interact with plasma all the time.
I made another, longer post here where I go into more details, here is the link, slashdot ate my html last time:
You are mostly stating the obvious but missing my point.
> desktop widgets are basically small applications that don't scale
they scale visually, and they scale to different device form factors. if you are looking for them to scale in functionality to, say, replace Digikam or Kdenlive, that won't happen. they are helpers and quick tools. they aren't supposed to replace applications on their own, just as an application like Digikam is never going to be something you'd put in a nice photo frame device to show some photo collection:)
Yes I know that, but why would I want to put a photo frame in my desktop when I can put any image AS my desktop? And why would I chose to show a photo collection in a small frame when I can use a nice regular application?
Is not that I'm resisting change, I've been trying desktop widgets since windows 98 when true transparency wasn't available and they simulated it by copying the desktop picture behind.
I have really tried to like widgets but the truth is that they aren't functional, they are virtual ornaments, but so is the desktop picture and widgets obscure it.
The longest I have managed to keep widgets are a network activity indicator (rainlendar) back in 2005 and a battery indicator for my netbook last year (yahoo widgets) but that clashed with my use of fullscreen firefox.
I have also tried avant desktop, samurize... you name it. They just aren't useful and there's always an app that does the job right, I find desktop widgets to be extremely gimmicky.
Look, an analog clock! Yeah, I bet you read the time from the clock in the panel. Look, a whether widget. Do you really use that information? I bet you don't know the current temperature right now without taking a look. Nor you care. Look, an rss client! Sure, if you only keep track of one or two feeds. But ironically rss widgets aren't good for neither urgent news that you have to catch right-away (because you aren't always looking at the desktop) nor for reading your accumulated news at the end of the day.
I want you to understand that this is not a knee-jerk reaction, I have looked at the subject deeply and calmly, I even made custom widgets for rainlendar. I also used litestep, geoshell, blackbox for windows, and other combinations including only y'zdock and launchy or just powerpro, etc. I like trying new interfaces.
Widgets just aren't any good for me.
> use a different window manager
they aren't windows in form or function. unless you consider the objects in inkscape, oo impress, etc. to be windows as well.
Plasmoids have rather obvious window decorations, for all the effort the team have put into them you should at least recognize that they practically reinvented window managing from scratch for plasmoids.
> WHO WANTS TO ROTATE A FUCKING WIDGET?
while many seem to enjoy positioning photos just as they'd like on their desktop (which is a fairly minimal reason for rotation), it's actually rather useful when you have a large flat surface that lays horizontally.
given that rotation is couple of lines of code and has resulted in ~zero maintenance overhead and does not impact your usage if you don't care about rotation, this seems like a molehill rather than a mountain.
Thanks to plasmoids' magically appearing-disappearing window decorations I have indeed rotated them accidentally, it doesn't help that these decorations do their best to rearrange themselves to always be nearby to help you, that means, right in your face.
Really, it's so cute, I almost feel like patting them on the head. But your desktop shouldn't make you feel like a babysitter for specially-abled children.
You call it a molehill, I call it friction, and constant friction makes KDE4 feel like an uphill battle.
> At least with Gnome every panel and panel applet is optional
I refer you to my earlier post ITT. There are just so many things that are now mandatory in KDE4 I feel claustrophobia. Ironic, since I love Python's OTW but how come I can't get rid of that button in the top corner?
Meanwhile this loyal Gnome user dreads the time when "Gnome Shell" becomes mandatory and forces me to switch to something else, KDE or XFCE I'm still not sure.
What I hate about KDE4 right now is the Henry Ford mentality of, you can have your features any way you want them as long as you want it as a plasmoid. I HATE DESKTOP WIDGETS, desktop widgets are basically small applications that don't scale and use a different window manager, one which is less functional and harder to use than the default window manager... but ohhhh it supports rotating! WTF IS UP WITH THAT? WHO WANTS TO ROTATE A FUCKING WIDGET?
At least with Gnome every panel and panel applet is optional, how come Gnome is the most configurable desktop of the two now?
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SyntaxError at Line:1 Column:25. Attempted write in left hand expression.
I understand your point but ---in the spirit of these kinds of stories--
The REAL WTF is that they are using random strings as keys for hashes. That hardly ever makes a good design as there are always better strings to use for keys like a date or an auto-incremental number or anything.
If you really have no idea what to call the key now what makes you think you are going to know later?
even if you operate between different instances of the program and thus you can't use a date, you could just concat the hostname and date or such.
IMHO not knowing the underlying implementation of library functions and objects is less problematic than not knowing how to use them to build a sane architecture..
I know, but then they have no right to cut out BT users who actually consume what they bought.
There is a very easy way to reduce excess traffic, charge users by the GB. Both uploads and downloads. But that way they don't get to advertise "unlimited" connection.
By shutting down high usage users they are breaching their contract with the user, over selling their service and using false advertisements all at the same time.
Where are the honest ISP when you need them?
There is a difference, when that paper was released everybody could see past their BS and realize they were wishful-thinking.
The iPod *was* lame, as in, lacking features the competition has had since the beginning, the iPod "won" by means of a) Marketing and b) The iTMS.
By "won" I mean, being the biggest player, it is no the sole player by a long shot.
I don't have numbers to back this up, over half the media player owners I know own something else than an iPod, but I live in Mexico, does anyone can bring statistics about media players in the world or at least the US?
to correct the change in the timeline.
And give us our damn flying cars already?
Now that it is officially deceased all the thousands of instances still around are to be considered undead.
Yes, but you run into problems as midget ninjas are classified as WMD.
1) Orange+Purple is NOT professional.
2) It is a rip off of Snow Leopard.
3) It's still orange and gray, it's basically the new wave theme with a purple background and glaring WM buttons.
4) The WM buttons are not where Windows users are used to.
5) The WM buttons are not where OS X users are used to.
6) The WM buttons are not where Linux users are used to.
7) The WM buttons are not conforming to any usability or logic principle, in fact they just placed them exactly right to cause problems with the top panel menu.
8) Rebranding will not suddenly make the main issue with users way (OS inertia) but will help make ubuntu visually undistinctive.
9) It will alienate their surest target demographic, their current users.
10) They are doing it wrong anyway.
Feel free to expand the list.
That's just overzealous speculation.
No, the DMCA is quite clear in this.
You've pulled this one from your ass again. The fact that older systems are...
Keep track of your own writing, here I'm answering to your point about romhacking been illegal (by itself, it's not).
Of course they're taken down[...]
So you flipflop between them been accepted and not been accepted lame game. Also you forget that as a Japanese company, and one targeted towards young audiences, Nintendo is very limited, legally economically and culturally to what it can do, but it certainly does anything withing their reach to that end.
But
As someone who has seen their posters admonishing gamers against used game stores, I can see right trough any bullshit about them caring for the law.
This last one is the one that everybody takes as sacred but it is going to be taken from under their noses without even bothering.
I'm tired of your flipflopping and context switching, won't bother with you anymore.
The problem is that these scheming bastards are scaring away potential business users of open source software.
FTFY
Now who's lying? Homebrew is perfectly legal.
Used to be, it hasn't been legally possible since the DMCA.
Distributing romhacks has never been legal
The writing the patches and applying them to you own roms was legal, before the DMCA. (But yes for old consoles it's still possible).
and the same goes for ROMs, no matter how old.
Never said they were, but perhaps I could've been much clearer.
But Nintendo have never "came for" the guys who make emulators. And seeing how easy it is to google and download roms from websites I'd guess they haven't really put much effort into taking down rom sites either.
Obviously you aren't very into the romhacking or you'd know about the many rom sites that have fallen, hidden, taken down etc. And in fact just linking to available roms is banned even in romhacking forums.
That the roms are still available is more about the persistence of the sites.
Wasn't the minister of privacy supposed to spy on you?
I don't know if you are just ignorant or right out lying.
Everything but the last point is now illegal, the last point is a prediction, anyone who remembers Nintendo's long held anti-second hand games propaganda campaigns or Sony's recent hardware locked subscriptions scheme knows they are already targeting first sale rights, it's only a matter of time.
This is pretty much how this is going to end in meme form:
First they came for those selling counterfeit games, but I did not speak because I don't play counterfeit games.
Then they came for those rip games for personal use, but I did not speak because I don't rip modern games.
Then they came for those who play decades old games on emulators, but I did not speak because I don't play on emulators.
Then they came for those making novel romhacks, but I did not speak because I don't play romhacks.
Then they came for users of homebrew games and applications, but I did not speak because I don't play homebrew games or use homebrew applications.
Then they came for users who keep backups of legally owned games, but I did not speak because I don't bother keeping backups even if I have to buy again the occasional game.
Finally they are battling against my right of first sale because I though these companies actually gave a shit about law and there was no one left for me to speak because they had their voice silenced by a worldwide three strikes law.
Don't get me wrong, I also think racism is bad, I take this pretty much as a given and I'm not interested in dicussing it any further.
And unless someone here can start an investigation whether Google is guilty or not is just speculation although another poster confirmed it isn't the case ( http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1552430&cid=31165762 )
On the other hand people are taking seriously the idea that privacy is dead, that, still show some room for discussion.
Could we stop arguing whether Google is doing this because they have too few or too much minority workers or the merits of Affirmative action and start talking about how hypocrite and wrong is that corporations can have private secrets as if they were people but those same corporations routinely down play or right out ridicule the idea that privacy is a natural right and need of actual people?
Yes that's one sentence.
To all the morons criticizing equal opportunity: What you are against of is called "Affirmative action", not equal opportunity.
Unless you admit you're racists, if so please continue.
Maybe he made an intelligent, informed comment on Apple or some other heinous sin.
No kidding, the guy should be burned for weeks for aggravated treason.
This is for giving us hope, this is for taking it away...
Thanks, for that. You have to admit that's kind of a new feature, last time I checked changing the container required editing a config file and did work 100% right.
Plasma, for starters-
That other button the the lower right corner, what happened with fits law? Are they seriously going to put configuration options in one of the most accesible spots in the screen?
FolderViews, you can get rid of them but only if you never want to put documents in the desktop, but given a choice between a FolderView and a Dolphin window I have to choose Dolphin.
Those annoying popping decorations around widgets. I'd ask for an option to lock them (which it probably grew by now) but I hate widgets in general.
That's all I remember right now, ok so those aren't a lot of complains and they would be so glaring if you hadn't have to interact with plasma all the time.
I made another, longer post here where I go into more details, here is the link, slashdot ate my html last time:
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1543132&cid=31079254
You are mostly stating the obvious but missing my point.
> desktop widgets are basically small applications that don't scale
they scale visually, and they scale to different device form factors. if you are looking for them to scale in functionality to, say, replace Digikam or Kdenlive, that won't happen. they are helpers and quick tools. they aren't supposed to replace applications on their own, just as an application like Digikam is never going to be something you'd put in a nice photo frame device to show some photo collection :)
Yes I know that, but why would I want to put a photo frame in my desktop when I can put any image AS my desktop? And why would I chose to show a photo collection in a small frame when I can use a nice regular application?
Is not that I'm resisting change, I've been trying desktop widgets since windows 98 when true transparency wasn't available and they simulated it by copying the desktop picture behind.
I have really tried to like widgets but the truth is that they aren't functional, they are virtual ornaments, but so is the desktop picture and widgets obscure it.
The longest I have managed to keep widgets are a network activity indicator (rainlendar) back in 2005 and a battery indicator for my netbook last year (yahoo widgets) but that clashed with my use of fullscreen firefox.
I have also tried avant desktop, samurize... you name it. They just aren't useful and there's always an app that does the job right, I find desktop widgets to be extremely gimmicky.
Look, an analog clock! Yeah, I bet you read the time from the clock in the panel.
Look, a whether widget. Do you really use that information? I bet you don't know the current temperature right now without taking a look. Nor you care.
Look, an rss client! Sure, if you only keep track of one or two feeds. But ironically rss widgets aren't good for neither urgent news that you have to catch right-away (because you aren't always looking at the desktop) nor for reading your accumulated news at the end of the day.
I want you to understand that this is not a knee-jerk reaction, I have looked at the subject deeply and calmly, I even made custom widgets for rainlendar. I also used litestep, geoshell, blackbox for windows, and other combinations including only y'zdock and launchy or just powerpro, etc. I like trying new interfaces.
Widgets just aren't any good for me.
> use a different window manager
they aren't windows in form or function. unless you consider the objects in inkscape, oo impress, etc. to be windows as well.
Plasmoids have rather obvious window decorations, for all the effort the team have put into them you should at least recognize that they practically reinvented window managing from scratch for plasmoids.
> WHO WANTS TO ROTATE A FUCKING WIDGET?
while many seem to enjoy positioning photos just as they'd like on their desktop (which is a fairly minimal reason for rotation), it's actually rather useful when you have a large flat surface that lays horizontally.
given that rotation is couple of lines of code and has resulted in ~zero maintenance overhead and does not impact your usage if you don't care about rotation, this seems like a molehill rather than a mountain.
Thanks to plasmoids' magically appearing-disappearing window decorations I have indeed rotated them accidentally, it doesn't help that these decorations do their best to rearrange themselves to always be nearby to help you, that means, right in your face.
Really, it's so cute, I almost feel like patting them on the head. But your desktop shouldn't make you feel like a babysitter for specially-abled children.
You call it a molehill, I call it friction, and constant friction makes KDE4 feel like an uphill battle.
> At least with Gnome every panel and panel applet is optional
it is the same with KDE Plasma Des
I refer you to my earlier post ITT. There are just so many things that are now mandatory in KDE4 I feel claustrophobia. Ironic, since I love Python's OTW but how come I can't get rid of that button in the top corner?
Meanwhile this loyal Gnome user dreads the time when "Gnome Shell" becomes mandatory and forces me to switch to something else, KDE or XFCE I'm still not sure.
What I hate about KDE4 right now is the Henry Ford mentality of, you can have your features any way you want them as long as you want it as a plasmoid. I HATE DESKTOP WIDGETS, desktop widgets are basically small applications that don't scale and use a different window manager, one which is less functional and harder to use than the default window manager... but ohhhh it supports rotating! WTF IS UP WITH THAT? WHO WANTS TO ROTATE A FUCKING WIDGET?
At least with Gnome every panel and panel applet is optional, how come Gnome is the most configurable desktop of the two now?