Yes, but morals and good feeling have little to do with it if your product slumps due to poor quality software, or a stranglehold on the associated developper communauty (IIRC Microsoft phones only run signed code, and that costs money).
Samsung and Siemens will also probably prefer paying Nokia since it's a japanese company (national loyalty is very strong in Japan, unless things have changed alot since I last did geography).
Your forgetting that all the KHTML based browsers aren't listed either (basically other), which doubles the standereds compliant score.
Also, the fact that they (Gecko and Linux) are there at all is pretty amazing. We are talking about an operating system and a browser who, without any markiting(sp?) or preloads, have managed to be taken seriously enough to be part of these stats.
Rome wasn't built in a day, and Mozilla has one hell of a hard clime ahead of it...
I say well done to them, their on the right track.
Bill Thompson takes pot shots at what ever's current, and doesn't hesatate to start a raveing debate on his blog about it afterwoulds if you're so inclined.
And he isn't anymore pro linux than pro windows (actually, on average, quite a bit less). But so far I've only found one of his articles that couldn't be backed up, and he clarified his position alot later on the 'BillBlog' (linked to from his articles).
He's also one of the few BBC journalists who links to his e-mail address from his storys.
So no, Bill hasn't sided with the/. croud, he just say's what he thinks.
Actually, I think my results are out by an order of 10x-100x, since a 20g cube would give a density of 1000kg.m^(-3), so the results would need to be jacked up a notch
Depends, if you're talking about a solid cube, it'll be when the gravity generated by the cubes mass goes above the resistance factor of an individual cube.
If we consider 2cmx1cmx1cm pieces, and we consder that they weigh 20g each, we can assume that a cube with hight=width=depth=x we have (x^3)/2 blocks, the mass of which will be : 20*(x^3)/2=10(x^3)g
If we assimilate the cube to a sphere (not good, I'll agree, but good enough, since we're not going to build one) we can calculate the pressure in the centre of the cube by multiplying the radius of the sphere by the gravitational constant by the spheres density (here 10g/cm^3), put into SI we get p=x*10^(-8)*6.67.10^(-11). So, for the cube to collapse under it's own weight, you'll need to build one 100s of km accross at least.
OTOH if you just want to know how big it can get till the earth's gravitational field crushes it, then all you have to do is take it's weight (10x(^3)g) and devide by the size of the base (x^2) (*2 dure to the brick sizes), which gives you 20xg, so if it takes 3kg of presure to crush a brick, you'll need 20x=3000, so the cube needs to be 1.5 meters accross. That said, my lego's easilly stood 10kg-20kg of pressure (applied, not dropped on it) which would give you, on average (for 15kg) 20x=15000 or x=700, or a 7m cube.
HTH, and please correct me if my phisic's are wrong (I'm a Math/CS student, so I could well be)
I agree with you in principal, but I can't explaine it any other way, slackware was useing newer packages, which should have slowed it down (especially since slackware was on gnome 2 and I always used an xterm for games in mandrake)
>However slackware, is to put it in slashdot-terms, dying.
Not for a little while, me thinks. I haven't found a better terminal distro yet. And with extensions like dropline (www.dropline.net) it's still up their with the best.
+ Slackware has never been, and never will be a big communauty distro, at least as long as Patrick's behind the wheel, and that's fine by me.
>It's finally a matter of taste rather than functionality.
More performance and size than taste. I've done some tests (pretty emperical true, but tests none the less, actually the speed of gnome 2) in which slackware + dropline gnome beat gentoo hands down. It also beat Mandrake on Quake3 fps, even after haveing culled the Mandrake install down to the bare minimum, and leaving the slack alone.
The security point I'll accept, but Slackware still has a role on older hardware. I've just finished an install involving a Terminal server + 2 terminals + a vpn with another site. The router + the terminals are all slackware, and the speed's increadible. Other distro's just don't cut it in these circumstances.
OTOH if yoyu've got the processor cycles to spare, broadband and want a nice desktop with easy maintenance (portage counts), then it isn't the right choice.
Slackware may be more nich than it was, but it's by no means dead.
David
(Posted on a Celeron 550 laptop running slackware 9.1 and KDE 3.1.4)
Great, so now when I try to connect to my laptop a la ftp://name:password@laptop/ from work, it'll through me out.
Cool
Just what I needed, more MS interferance. And no, unfortunatly I can't force mozilla everywhere I go, and samba is a lot more of a pain (ftp is universal).
P.S: the server is only accessable from internal and only when I choose, so no, it's not a security risk
Think of this, you're a sysadmin, your smat phone e-mail gets a message from your server that requires imidiate acition. You ssh in, fix the situation, and get beck to the dinner in stead of canceling the evening.
Would you trust windows with your root password?
And, more importantly, could you get a ssh client onto and running on a windows based smart phone?
That's why the OS on smart phones matters (OTOH my mobile can run what it likes, since it just takes phone calls)
The guy gave up on a floppy not found error, which when added to his comments on a video card he gave up on, leads me to believe that he wasn't really that experianced with Linux. This isn't a flame or anything, but this article doesn't reflect at all the state of Linux PVR.
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I think Mandrake is a good way to get a lot of people using Linux. It's polished GUI is good for proving what Linux can be when you don't need command line control.
I thought that was what Lindows was for.
You have the cli if you want it, you just don't need it, and it's a very welcome change when setting up complex systems (like application servers with vpns over the web etc...). You gain days on the installation.
Either that or buy the PowerPack, that's what I recommend all the time. + Like that you save time since you already have the NVidia drivers and such...
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My bad, never was too good at geography anyhow :)
The first point still holds though
David
Yes, but morals and good feeling have little to do with it if your product slumps due to poor quality software, or a stranglehold on the associated developper communauty (IIRC Microsoft phones only run signed code, and that costs money).
Samsung and Siemens will also probably prefer paying Nokia since it's a japanese company (national loyalty is very strong in Japan, unless things have changed alot since I last did geography).
Your forgetting that all the KHTML based browsers aren't listed either (basically other), which doubles the standereds compliant score.
Also, the fact that they (Gecko and Linux) are there at all is pretty amazing. We are talking about an operating system and a browser who, without any markiting(sp?) or preloads, have managed to be taken seriously enough to be part of these stats.
Rome wasn't built in a day, and Mozilla has one hell of a hard clime ahead of it...
I say well done to them, their on the right track.
Bill Thompson takes pot shots at what ever's current, and doesn't hesatate to start a raveing debate on his blog about it afterwoulds if you're so inclined.
/. croud, he just say's what he thinks.
And he isn't anymore pro linux than pro windows (actually, on average, quite a bit less). But so far I've only found one of his articles that couldn't be backed up, and he clarified his position alot later on the 'BillBlog' (linked to from his articles).
He's also one of the few BBC journalists who links to his e-mail address from his storys.
So no, Bill hasn't sided with the
Actually, I think my results are out by an order of 10x-100x, since a 20g cube would give a density of 1000kg.m^(-3), so the results would need to be jacked up a notch
David
Depends, if you're talking about a solid cube, it'll be when the gravity generated by the cubes mass goes above the resistance factor of an individual cube.
If we consider 2cmx1cmx1cm pieces, and we consder that they weigh 20g each, we can assume that a cube with hight=width=depth=x we have (x^3)/2 blocks, the mass of which will be : 20*(x^3)/2=10(x^3)g
If we assimilate the cube to a sphere (not good, I'll agree, but good enough, since we're not going to build one) we can calculate the pressure in the centre of the cube by multiplying the radius of the sphere by the gravitational constant by the spheres density (here 10g/cm^3), put into SI we get p=x*10^(-8)*6.67.10^(-11). So, for the cube to collapse under it's own weight, you'll need to build one 100s of km accross at least.
OTOH if you just want to know how big it can get till the earth's gravitational field crushes it, then all you have to do is take it's weight (10x(^3)g) and devide by the size of the base (x^2) (*2 dure to the brick sizes), which gives you 20xg, so if it takes 3kg of presure to crush a brick, you'll need 20x=3000, so the cube needs to be 1.5 meters accross. That said, my lego's easilly stood 10kg-20kg of pressure (applied, not dropped on it) which would give you, on average (for 15kg) 20x=15000 or x=700, or a 7m cube.
HTH, and please correct me if my phisic's are wrong (I'm a Math/CS student, so I could well be)
David
I agree with you in principal, but I can't explaine it any other way, slackware was useing newer packages, which should have slowed it down (especially since slackware was on gnome 2 and I always used an xterm for games in mandrake)
>However slackware, is to put it in slashdot-terms, dying.
Not for a little while, me thinks. I haven't found a better terminal distro yet. And with extensions like dropline (www.dropline.net) it's still up their with the best.
+ Slackware has never been, and never will be a big communauty distro, at least as long as Patrick's behind the wheel, and that's fine by me.
>It's finally a matter of taste rather than functionality.
More performance and size than taste. I've done some tests (pretty emperical true, but tests none the less, actually the speed of gnome 2) in which slackware + dropline gnome beat gentoo hands down. It also beat Mandrake on Quake3 fps, even after haveing culled the Mandrake install down to the bare minimum, and leaving the slack alone.
The security point I'll accept, but Slackware still has a role on older hardware. I've just finished an install involving a Terminal server + 2 terminals + a vpn with another site. The router + the terminals are all slackware, and the speed's increadible. Other distro's just don't cut it in these circumstances.
OTOH if yoyu've got the processor cycles to spare, broadband and want a nice desktop with easy maintenance (portage counts), then it isn't the right choice.
Slackware may be more nich than it was, but it's by no means dead.
David
(Posted on a Celeron 550 laptop running slackware 9.1 and KDE 3.1.4)
Great, so now when I try to connect to my laptop a la ftp://name:password@laptop/ from work, it'll through me out.
Cool
Just what I needed, more MS interferance. And no, unfortunatly I can't force mozilla everywhere I go, and samba is a lot more of a pain (ftp is universal).
P.S: the server is only accessable from internal and only when I choose, so no, it's not a security risk
Think of this, you're a sysadmin, your smat phone e-mail gets a message from your server that requires imidiate acition. You ssh in, fix the situation, and get beck to the dinner in stead of canceling the evening.
Would you trust windows with your root password?
And, more importantly, could you get a ssh client onto and running on a windows based smart phone?
That's why the OS on smart phones matters (OTOH my mobile can run what it likes, since it just takes phone calls)
The guy gave up on a floppy not found error, which when added to his comments on a video card he gave up on, leads me to believe that he wasn't really that experianced with Linux.
This isn't a flame or anything, but this article doesn't reflect at all the state of Linux PVR.
I thought that was what Lindows was for.
You have the cli if you want it, you just don't need it, and it's a very welcome change when setting up complex systems (like application servers with vpns over the web etc...). You gain days on the installation.
Either that or buy the PowerPack, that's what I recommend all the time. + Like that you save time since you already have the NVidia drivers and such...
Just my 0.02 EUR
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