A good chunk of the rest of his family hanged themselves as well a few years back, it seems. I don't think the whole vulnerability thing was more than just the straw that broke the camel's back.
Are you suggesting that people should ask for the IT manager's credentials and a full network diagram before deciding where to go when they're in need of emergency care?
I think that if it were possible to interrupt hospital services via DDoS, and that was just an example, then profit could be made from it. What about, say, someone in critical condition after an attempted murder? Finishing the job off would certainly be valuable to someone.
I could see a Mastercard-style commercial being made on this premise.
Getting infected... Free
Paying for someone to come fix it... $200
Paying the same guy to come back again... $400
Learning to not bite the hand that controls your porn access... PRICELESS
Let's say that you leave a firearm within reach of your child. It does not have a trigger lock and is not in a safe. You, however, at least took the care to teach your child about the weapon and the safety and care that must be taken with such a device.
One day, your child's friend comes over to play, sees the firearm, and decides to play with it. 5 minutes later, 3 neighborhood children are dead.
You don't think you would be blamed? You have no knowledge or intent. Why must you be bothered with purchasing and employing additional security measures?
My thoughts exactly. All any of these things do is take a look at packets going through it. A software application running on hardware. Given sufficiently powerful hardware (a cheap commodity these days) and sufficiently efficient software (the only big difference between the vendors), you can do all these things and more.
False positives and false negatives are bound to occur. It's like a see-saw, and finding the right balance is tricky. Swinging back and forth between the two isn't nearly as effective as shrinking the fulcrum, but either way there will always be a few.
Could you point us to something with more in-depth information, by all means. All we can find is marketing propaganda from Cisco and Checkpoint. Unbiased, timely reviews with real-world information like this are far and few between.
Exactly. Cisco's ASA and Checkpoint's UTM products are on the short list for us. Having a solid review of the difference between those two would be far better than picking 4 quasi-no-name brands.
I'd rather be able to sue either one. If Ford sells me a car with an exploding steering wheel, I'd rather not be troubled to track down the name of the engineer who designed said part.
I said "member units." Not every IASO is completely familiar with Peter Gutmann's full paper. Either way, a 35-pass Gutmann wipe is better than a 1 or 2-pass zero wipe. They're erring on the side of caution, but that doesn't mean you need to personally attack me.
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On my last vacation, I spent at least 30 minutes staring up to the night sky with my mouth open...
A good chunk of the rest of his family hanged themselves as well a few years back, it seems. I don't think the whole vulnerability thing was more than just the straw that broke the camel's back.
yum install aptitude.
Yeah, that's basically all I can see this being. Perhaps it will have a nice web portal with reviews, in-depth descriptions, and decent screenshots?
Are you suggesting that people should ask for the IT manager's credentials and a full network diagram before deciding where to go when they're in need of emergency care?
I think that if it were possible to interrupt hospital services via DDoS, and that was just an example, then profit could be made from it. What about, say, someone in critical condition after an attempted murder? Finishing the job off would certainly be valuable to someone.
I could see a Mastercard-style commercial being made on this premise.
Getting infected... Free
Paying for someone to come fix it... $200
Paying the same guy to come back again... $400
Learning to not bite the hand that controls your porn access... PRICELESS
That depends on what the malware is used for. Sending spam? Maybe not so bad. DDoSing a hospital? Hmm...
If you're not running as admin, drive-by installs don't stand much of a chance. Just sayin'
Oh, so it's not a PC because it doesn't run on x86 hardware?
Oh, wait...
I'm not sure if I'd be that nice about it. "Accidentally" clicking something devastating would probably come before step 1, at the very least.
Ubuntu is basically Debian, repackaged. Slightly less stable, but it usually has more of the latest packages.
With friends like that, who needs enemies?
Thanks, I'll be here all week.
All I could think of while reading that was a giant, blinking "HERO" tag from Fark.
If more private companies took initiative like that bank, then we wouldn't even be discussing trying to pass laws like this
Heck, it would only take 1 company. Imagine someone being served with "Your computer is no longer welcome to access Google's servers. Goodbye."
How about a gun analogy instead?
Let's say that you leave a firearm within reach of your child. It does not have a trigger lock and is not in a safe. You, however, at least took the care to teach your child about the weapon and the safety and care that must be taken with such a device.
One day, your child's friend comes over to play, sees the firearm, and decides to play with it. 5 minutes later, 3 neighborhood children are dead.
You don't think you would be blamed? You have no knowledge or intent. Why must you be bothered with purchasing and employing additional security measures?
It would be Gamma.
My thoughts exactly. All any of these things do is take a look at packets going through it. A software application running on hardware. Given sufficiently powerful hardware (a cheap commodity these days) and sufficiently efficient software (the only big difference between the vendors), you can do all these things and more.
False positives and false negatives are bound to occur. It's like a see-saw, and finding the right balance is tricky. Swinging back and forth between the two isn't nearly as effective as shrinking the fulcrum, but either way there will always be a few.
Could you point us to something with more in-depth information, by all means. All we can find is marketing propaganda from Cisco and Checkpoint. Unbiased, timely reviews with real-world information like this are far and few between.
Exactly. Cisco's ASA and Checkpoint's UTM products are on the short list for us. Having a solid review of the difference between those two would be far better than picking 4 quasi-no-name brands.
Rabidly differentiating Ubuntu from Debian is like trying to separate CentOS from RedHat.
How about no immunity?
I'd rather be able to sue either one. If Ford sells me a car with an exploding steering wheel, I'd rather not be troubled to track down the name of the engineer who designed said part.
When people feel that injustice has been done, then justice must either be provided or else the will make their own.
Saying that vigilantism is always wrong or "against the law" is no use if no other alternative is provided to those with legitimate grievance.
This is the most insightful truth I've read all day. If I hadn't already commented, I'd mod you up.
Caller ID can be spoofed by the end user. There are products out there that you can buy to do it, though the names escape me at the moment.
Touche, monsieur!
I said "member units." Not every IASO is completely familiar with Peter Gutmann's full paper. Either way, a 35-pass Gutmann wipe is better than a 1 or 2-pass zero wipe. They're erring on the side of caution, but that doesn't mean you need to personally attack me.
Don't be a prick with such a short fuse.