A fair point but imagine a scientist who can work for 800 years to solve a particular problem, might we then be able to handle the population and resource issues? Imagine a Manhattan project 200 years long to handle our energy generation problems. With that much time a lot of gains could be made if war in the meantime didn't destroy everything that is.
The service is irrelevant. VOIP is quite viable. The owner of the company I work for called me using Skype from London and Paris during his trip and it worked just fine. He called my cell phone no less. The people I know that use Vonage have had zero problems with it as well so I don't know where you get that it is the most unreliable. Perhaps you mean those with unreliable Internet have unreliable VOIP? That would seem to argue that Internet is indeed a necessity and should be improved.
The only thing you stated was circular logic. You did not state why you think it's not a necessity. You only made a generic statement about private industry competing with government.
I think it's pretty easy to make a case that the 21st century economy should include Internet access as a necessity.
In this day and age all my bills are paid online, the yellow pages on paper is a thing of the past and calling internationally is no longer prohibitively expensive. Looking for a new job is next to impossible without being online even.
Yes people can live without the Internet, people can live without phone service and electricity too. How exactly is it not a necessity?
and what's even worse? Now you can't even get drunk on an airplane for fear of 20 years in federal prison if your actions someone arbitrarily considers a "disturbance." So they've done everything they can to make flying an unpleasant experience and now the government steps in and forces us to do it sober!
Thanks for the link, I've been trying to find a deployment strategy for enterprise wide encryption. Most of the systems seem rather clunky and not well thought out.
One of my test laptops suddenly started saying that the TPM chip cannot be contacted so the encrypted laptop is now useless and needs to be wiped to start all over. Fortunately it's just a test laptop so there's nothing on it to worry about but it definitely makes me nervous about deploying it for the whole company.
Truecrypt along with Debian, Fedora, by extension Ubuntu are not solutions an enterprise can deploy reliably.
Truecrypt is mighty close but portability is a killer for any enterprise to manage.
Picture the scenario where a user changed the keys and then gets fired. With Truecrypt hopefully you have a copy of the master key so you should be fine. With encrypted LVM solutions things can get all kinds of hairy though.
I wish Truecrypt supported fingerprint authentication. Right now it looks like Computrace's LoJack for Laptops is still the best option for enterprise deployment.
yeah, yesterday I had 46megs of updates that Synaptic kindly offered me. Of course I have Windows in a VM so I have to keep that updated as well. Plain and simple, if you don't want broadband then you are missing out on a lot of what the Internet has to offer. It's simply ignorance of what else is out there.
You can browse the web on dial-up? Methinks you haven't tried it in recent years. Websites are eating up a lot more bandwidth now. Any major car manufacturer's website for instance would be impossible on dialup, unless you want to wait hours. Similarly Windows Updates are quite impossible to get without extremely long delays. The same issue for OS X with it's updates or any Linux distro.
Thank you for replying, I didn't get a chance to make this same statement earlier as I actually had some work to do. Gotta love this biz, quiet all week then 30 mins before I go on vacation bam!
Your explanation is right along the lines of my thought process. I had assumed that everyone understood that prosperity for all is a far more effective method of achieving peace. Riots in New England in the 1850s were definitely not uncommon as a direct result of wage and labor issues.
I guess since I grew up there I just take that information for granted. I visited Lowell in school to learn about all these issues, that might be why I don't think unions are inherently evil although many have certainly gone too far.
Where are you getting these insane ideas? Have you ever visited a textile mill? People were dying in sweatshop housing going further and further into debt while trying to get ahead. They were fed the bare minimum and endured extremely dangerous conditions.
OSHA was created because of several large fires at textile mills which killed hundreds at a time. These conditions weren't limited to textile mills but they were the beginnings of America becoming a manufacturing powerhouse around the turn of the last century.
You'll note despite the minimum wage being established in particularly Lowell Massachusetts in 1912 that the state became a one of the largest producers of textiles. Similarly when minimum wage was introduced nationally in 1938 that the United States as a whole became a world leader. Minimum wage doesn't take all the credit, the war had a lot to do with it but when a larger percentage of your population becomes consumers everyone wins.
You are also ignoring history which states otherwise. Why do you think minimum wage laws and unions were formed in the first place?
Losing minimum wage has shown itself to send a whole populous down into poverty. You need only look at the average income of an American over the last 100 years to see that when you make more money your quality of life goes up. More people today are making more money and enjoy a much higher quality of life than my grand parents did during the depression.
Parent was correct in calling your naive, either that or willfully ignorant.
Exceedingly unlikely that Safari on Windows does anything clever let alone manage memory. Opera probably would and we already know IE 7 doesn't. I'd say FF3 behavior here is quite acceptable.
I don't get hungover unless I really overdo it which is exceedingly rare. If when I don't have responsibility to wake up to I don't want to waste a perfectly good day away.
Dehydration is always the enemy though. He who's masters hydration will win the day.
The ability to drink comes from staying in practice, you fall out and its hard all over again.
My job has be stressing and working a lot more for half the year where I don't have time to drink a lot so I lose my tolerance, then there is a two week break before I spend my birthday in Palm Beach where its all downhill from there until four months later when the whole thing starts over.
I didn't like how expensive it was until I realized that it was indeed worth every penny. I really want one right now but its rather hard to get round these parts. Once in a blue moon this place near my house has them.
The 120 is a treat for me, the 90 is also a treat as it's mostly hard for me to get. The 60 is the beer of choice at the places that serve it. Of course I just found a place that serves Arrogant Bastard which is probably the West Coast's closest answer to it.
It's not so easy to get out here in AZ, pretty much gotta go to Papago where they also serve a beer appropriately called hops shortage which is the most hoppy IPA I've ever had!
Incorporate is the correct word, they don't replace other foods.
I have more fruits and veggies in my fridge than I can identify. I know I can't stand it when she buys durian fruit. A fruit so smelly it's illegal in consume in public in Singapore.
Superfoods definitely have a place in any diet and are much better than taking pills to supplement your diet.
Anyone that goes all in on any diet usually does more harm than good. Variety is a requirement to maintain strength including a healthy immune response.
In my roommates defense it wasn't really failure, she just had a hard time producing adrenalin because she was on the go so much and ran herself down. More protein in her diet would have prevented her from having to stop for two weeks to rest up. It took her about two months to get back to a normal pace of living.
That funny, at my Albertson's I've seen the exact opposite, they now have an organic food section and a whole isle dedicated to "health" food.
Nevermind the fact that fruit still has sugar in it, lots of it no less. Superfood diets have their own problems as the best long term diet lays in a variety of foods and yes, even pizza on occasion. My roommate did the whole raw food thing for a year and the result? A weakened immune system and an intolerance for anything outside of her routine.
I'll add that she now regularly eats so-called superfoods and still ended up with "adrenal failure."
The simple problem is that different people have different dietary needs. Blood type is a majority contributing factor to what you can effectively digest. My roommate discovered there is a whole class of superfoods she can't eat because her body can't digest it.
I'll add that nuts can even be dangerous to eat as they routinely contain arsenic which is why you are supposed to soak them before you eat them. Let them sprout then eat them.
And what about the fat people that have normal levels of cholesterol, normal blood pressure, and routinely exercise?
Sorry, but weight alone does not drive up insurance premiums for everyone. The fat people that still eat McDonalds most definitely do, of course the same goes with the skinny people that eat at McDonalds so the point is rather moot.
The issue with insurance does have a facet in maintaining healthy lifestyles but it also has a lot more to do with getting the costs of medical care down. Costs of all medical expenses in the U.S. are disproportionately large due to a number of factors, primarily malpractice insurance! So now you have insurance increasing the costs of health-care increasing the cost of another kind of insurance.
Now it's not just the insurance industry, in all fairness there are a lot of fairly frivolous malpractice lawsuits in addition to the ones that are legitimate. My own roommate almost sued her dentist because her face went numb after she had oral surgery. Of course he told her to take the antibiotics but being the med student she was, she that she knew a naturopathic way that would be safer, unfortunately she was wrong as she wanted to blame it on the surgeon. We convinced her otherwise but a lawyer was more than willing to take her case.
Or perhaps their fiscal year doesn't match the calendar year like a lot of companies who operate July 08 through June 09. I know this has caused confusion at a great many places.
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A fair point but imagine a scientist who can work for 800 years to solve a particular problem, might we then be able to handle the population and resource issues? Imagine a Manhattan project 200 years long to handle our energy generation problems. With that much time a lot of gains could be made if war in the meantime didn't destroy everything that is.
The service is irrelevant. VOIP is quite viable. The owner of the company I work for called me using Skype from London and Paris during his trip and it worked just fine. He called my cell phone no less. The people I know that use Vonage have had zero problems with it as well so I don't know where you get that it is the most unreliable. Perhaps you mean those with unreliable Internet have unreliable VOIP? That would seem to argue that Internet is indeed a necessity and should be improved.
The only thing you stated was circular logic. You did not state why you think it's not a necessity. You only made a generic statement about private industry competing with government.
I think it's pretty easy to make a case that the 21st century economy should include Internet access as a necessity.
In this day and age all my bills are paid online, the yellow pages on paper is a thing of the past and calling internationally is no longer prohibitively expensive. Looking for a new job is next to impossible without being online even.
Yes people can live without the Internet, people can live without phone service and electricity too. How exactly is it not a necessity?
and what's even worse? Now you can't even get drunk on an airplane for fear of 20 years in federal prison if your actions someone arbitrarily considers a "disturbance." So they've done everything they can to make flying an unpleasant experience and now the government steps in and forces us to do it sober!
Thanks for the link, I've been trying to find a deployment strategy for enterprise wide encryption. Most of the systems seem rather clunky and not well thought out.
One of my test laptops suddenly started saying that the TPM chip cannot be contacted so the encrypted laptop is now useless and needs to be wiped to start all over. Fortunately it's just a test laptop so there's nothing on it to worry about but it definitely makes me nervous about deploying it for the whole company.
Good luck, modern fingerprint readers won't work that way as they don't have a contact point for the whole finger.
Truecrypt along with Debian, Fedora, by extension Ubuntu are not solutions an enterprise can deploy reliably.
Truecrypt is mighty close but portability is a killer for any enterprise to manage.
Picture the scenario where a user changed the keys and then gets fired. With Truecrypt hopefully you have a copy of the master key so you should be fine. With encrypted LVM solutions things can get all kinds of hairy though.
I wish Truecrypt supported fingerprint authentication. Right now it looks like Computrace's LoJack for Laptops is still the best option for enterprise deployment.
yeah, yesterday I had 46megs of updates that Synaptic kindly offered me. Of course I have Windows in a VM so I have to keep that updated as well. Plain and simple, if you don't want broadband then you are missing out on a lot of what the Internet has to offer. It's simply ignorance of what else is out there.
You can browse the web on dial-up? Methinks you haven't tried it in recent years. Websites are eating up a lot more bandwidth now. Any major car manufacturer's website for instance would be impossible on dialup, unless you want to wait hours. Similarly Windows Updates are quite impossible to get without extremely long delays. The same issue for OS X with it's updates or any Linux distro.
Thank you for replying, I didn't get a chance to make this same statement earlier as I actually had some work to do. Gotta love this biz, quiet all week then 30 mins before I go on vacation bam!
Your explanation is right along the lines of my thought process. I had assumed that everyone understood that prosperity for all is a far more effective method of achieving peace. Riots in New England in the 1850s were definitely not uncommon as a direct result of wage and labor issues.
I guess since I grew up there I just take that information for granted. I visited Lowell in school to learn about all these issues, that might be why I don't think unions are inherently evil although many have certainly gone too far.
Yes I have, it appears that you haven't or only visited ones in the south. Source
Women were the primary labor in the textile mills, they did indeed starve and certainly didn't lease any homes.
Where are you getting these insane ideas? Have you ever visited a textile mill? People were dying in sweatshop housing going further and further into debt while trying to get ahead. They were fed the bare minimum and endured extremely dangerous conditions.
OSHA was created because of several large fires at textile mills which killed hundreds at a time. These conditions weren't limited to textile mills but they were the beginnings of America becoming a manufacturing powerhouse around the turn of the last century.
You'll note despite the minimum wage being established in particularly Lowell Massachusetts in 1912 that the state became a one of the largest producers of textiles. Similarly when minimum wage was introduced nationally in 1938 that the United States as a whole became a world leader. Minimum wage doesn't take all the credit, the war had a lot to do with it but when a larger percentage of your population becomes consumers everyone wins.
You are also ignoring history which states otherwise. Why do you think minimum wage laws and unions were formed in the first place?
Losing minimum wage has shown itself to send a whole populous down into poverty. You need only look at the average income of an American over the last 100 years to see that when you make more money your quality of life goes up. More people today are making more money and enjoy a much higher quality of life than my grand parents did during the depression.
Parent was correct in calling your naive, either that or willfully ignorant.
You mean like Intel does with Core 2 duo? T9300 for example? Which is 2.5ghz?
I apologize for missing a historical reference in present day context.
Exceedingly unlikely that Safari on Windows does anything clever let alone manage memory. Opera probably would and we already know IE 7 doesn't. I'd say FF3 behavior here is quite acceptable.
huh? Sounds like your rig is seriously messed up, my Phenom box is on par with these findings.
I don't get hungover unless I really overdo it which is exceedingly rare. If when I don't have responsibility to wake up to I don't want to waste a perfectly good day away.
Dehydration is always the enemy though. He who's masters hydration will win the day.
The ability to drink comes from staying in practice, you fall out and its hard all over again.
My job has be stressing and working a lot more for half the year where I don't have time to drink a lot so I lose my tolerance, then there is a two week break before I spend my birthday in Palm Beach where its all downhill from there until four months later when the whole thing starts over.
I didn't like how expensive it was until I realized that it was indeed worth every penny. I really want one right now but its rather hard to get round these parts. Once in a blue moon this place near my house has them.
The 120 is a treat for me, the 90 is also a treat as it's mostly hard for me to get. The 60 is the beer of choice at the places that serve it. Of course I just found a place that serves Arrogant Bastard which is probably the West Coast's closest answer to it.
My electric bill is currently $300/month so $1280 sounds like a good deal to me!
120 Minutes IPA for the double win!
It's not so easy to get out here in AZ, pretty much gotta go to Papago where they also serve a beer appropriately called hops shortage which is the most hoppy IPA I've ever had!
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Incorporate is the correct word, they don't replace other foods.
I have more fruits and veggies in my fridge than I can identify. I know I can't stand it when she buys durian fruit. A fruit so smelly it's illegal in consume in public in Singapore.
Superfoods definitely have a place in any diet and are much better than taking pills to supplement your diet.
Anyone that goes all in on any diet usually does more harm than good. Variety is a requirement to maintain strength including a healthy immune response.
In my roommates defense it wasn't really failure, she just had a hard time producing adrenalin because she was on the go so much and ran herself down. More protein in her diet would have prevented her from having to stop for two weeks to rest up. It took her about two months to get back to a normal pace of living.
That funny, at my Albertson's I've seen the exact opposite, they now have an organic food section and a whole isle dedicated to "health" food.
Nevermind the fact that fruit still has sugar in it, lots of it no less. Superfood diets have their own problems as the best long term diet lays in a variety of foods and yes, even pizza on occasion. My roommate did the whole raw food thing for a year and the result? A weakened immune system and an intolerance for anything outside of her routine.
I'll add that she now regularly eats so-called superfoods and still ended up with "adrenal failure."
The simple problem is that different people have different dietary needs. Blood type is a majority contributing factor to what you can effectively digest. My roommate discovered there is a whole class of superfoods she can't eat because her body can't digest it.
I'll add that nuts can even be dangerous to eat as they routinely contain arsenic which is why you are supposed to soak them before you eat them. Let them sprout then eat them.
And what about the fat people that have normal levels of cholesterol, normal blood pressure, and routinely exercise?
Sorry, but weight alone does not drive up insurance premiums for everyone. The fat people that still eat McDonalds most definitely do, of course the same goes with the skinny people that eat at McDonalds so the point is rather moot.
The issue with insurance does have a facet in maintaining healthy lifestyles but it also has a lot more to do with getting the costs of medical care down. Costs of all medical expenses in the U.S. are disproportionately large due to a number of factors, primarily malpractice insurance! So now you have insurance increasing the costs of health-care increasing the cost of another kind of insurance.
Now it's not just the insurance industry, in all fairness there are a lot of fairly frivolous malpractice lawsuits in addition to the ones that are legitimate. My own roommate almost sued her dentist because her face went numb after she had oral surgery. Of course he told her to take the antibiotics but being the med student she was, she that she knew a naturopathic way that would be safer, unfortunately she was wrong as she wanted to blame it on the surgeon. We convinced her otherwise but a lawyer was more than willing to take her case.
Or perhaps their fiscal year doesn't match the calendar year like a lot of companies who operate July 08 through June 09. I know this has caused confusion at a great many places.