Had you actually read my post you would have seen I was talking about Quicktime which had support for WMV built-in since WMV 6 came out. I knew MS stopped development but there is WMV support all over and on almost every platform.
As for your first question, why should the BBC choose a proprietary format that 800 million computers in-use today support? That's not even worth answering, it's just plain silly particularly from a news agency trying to reach as many people as possible.
This is not a debate. You haven't actually presented a rebuttal to anything I said, you merely cast it all off as irrelevant.
The problem isn't with WMV, it's with the DRM employed. Lift the DRM and over 800 million computers out there can play the content. Sorry but that's not irrelevant simply because you say it is. Having not heard of MKV also matters a great deal, the format is not widely adopted and so there is limited expertise in it. Since it is a container then that shouldn't really change anything in which case, why did you bring it up? Regardless, the vast majority of players out there won't play it and the vast majority of people out there either can't or won't download and install it. Look how long it took flash to get adopted?
Also not irrelevent is the fact that you don't need Windows Media encoder to produce WMV. You can use free and open source products to produce this content which is very much in fact relevant.
The fact that the DRM is optional is also not irrelevant because it applies to both the recording side as well as the playback side. If it is not employed on the recording side then all players will be able to play it or at least the vast majority.
You really have an odd concept of what a debate is if you think that is what you were doing.
Debate the DRM, that is something actually worthwhile given the tradition of the BBC in it's preservation of history rather than the restriction of it.
Why would a Mac be left out due to WMV? Perhaps due to DRM but the format itself works on pretty much everything these days. Did Apple intentionally pull support from Quicktime for it? Seems silly given that roughly 800 million computers out there have Windows Media Player.
Really? What platform can you not play Windows Media on? Even my phone can play Windows Media. I would be surprised if the iPod video didn't support wmv either. Certainly easy in every linux distro out there, No problem on the Mac. All supported out of the box versus MKV which I've never even heard of let alone downloaded a codec for. This is just silly, you don't even need Windows Media encoder to create Windows Media files. The DRM is entirely optional.
I agree that both sides aren't necessarily ethical, but how do you handle the situation then? Redistributing wealth does sound like a bad thing if I'm a person who has wealth and sounds great to me if I don't.
The problem comes about when you try to correct the inequities since it invariably requires redistributing wealth. The old adage it takes money to make money is as true today as it ever has been. That also means those without money are either finding it impossible to change that or it is substantially more difficult. Think of Youtube, could such a service have been started by someone without any money? It probably would have taken years longer giving time for someone else to capitalize on the idea making the playing field even steeper.
I honestly don't know what a fair an equitable solution would be beyond increased taxation of the rich which is just redistribution of wealth.
A valid idea except for the fact that the older kid starts out ahead of the younger kid so the younger kid spends his/her energy catching up. Usually the younger kid has more time for such things.
I also think it depends on the atmosphere and age difference. If the kid is 8 years older than the younger then the order probably makes no difference. An even more extreme circumstance is my cousin's girlfriend. She has a daughter who is 26 and 24 years later she had twins. I'm willing to bet the experience she gained from being a parent will help the twins and ultimately the twins will be much more intelligent as her older daughter is making a lot of the same mistakes she did.
Of course we're all aware that IQ isn't everything, certainly not the difference between attending one of them fancy schools versus community college.
I don't understand why they don't just make a system to do this. You the voter get a print-out and the voting office gets a print-out. Then the electronic counting can instantly tally everything. If there is a dispute then you count the paper ballots and life is grand. It's so simple it of course wouldn't work.
Of course then you need people on site which can service the printers since they will invariably break.
So duct tape and Velcro and thousands of other things which became part of all of our lives don't count for anything in the trip to the moon?
Seems like people forget that it's hard to get to some place far away and that the tools you develop to allow you to get there can and often do help out on Earth as well.
Perhaps more to the point it would be be something we do that we can actually succeed at unlike a lot of other things we've been doing lately which are miserable failures. I think this would pull a lot of the country at least together and hopefully get other countries interested in advancing the technology around it. Only war has produced more technology than NASA, to me, NASA makes a hell of a lot more sense on every level.
For the record I was indeed driving 100 - 120mph on my trips. That's how I discovered the Neon topped out at 127mph and the Accord the same both because of the ratings on their stock tires so the governor limits them. I call this a good thing so I didn't lift the restriction because then I have to buy new tires and brakes and that's just more than I think I need to do to a Neon or Accord.
The range on the Tesla was stated as 250 miles at 130mph though. So I don't know what it's effective range would be. I don't have enough information to make an accurate estimate as even the speed estimate wasn't stated directly, only inferred so it could very well be 250 miles at 70mph
I haven't experienced this sluggishness at all. Not saying its not possible, I just don't see it happening. If that's how WDS works then it would make sense that it would slow down performance but Outlook does keep a lot of information in ram. Outlooks handling of PSTs does piss me off though. Of course the vast majority of my files are on the network and not on my laptop so that probably plays into it. If you have a lot of archives and complicated documents then I could see it causing a slowdown. In those circumstances I have server side indexing though where the server can sit there all night indexing and the next night and the next night.
If you set it to index files on a remote server then I could definitely see it causing a slowdown but as I said, the server has its own indexing that works beautifully so I can't imagine why anyone would want to do it on their own workstation except if they want to slow down their own machines.
huh? Last I checked it had the lowest priority and consumed only a max amount of memory, about 30megs worth, it would continue at that pace as long as there was no user activity for five minutes. It doesn't move other apps out of memory or even move them into virtual memory, if the app in question is actually doing something then the indexing service won't run. If the app is question is sitting idle then it has already been moved to virtual memory.
If you install it on an existing machine with lots and lots of files then install it and go to bed. In the morning it will be fine, no slowdown at all and then you'll have the added advantage of instant searching. If it's a new install then there aren't a lot of files to index so you'll be done in an hour.
That's just simply crap, I did all that on a Pentium M laptop with 1gig of ram and an 80gig hard drive. It doesn't affect performance in the slightest beyond taking up that additional 30megs of ram while it's running. It drops down to less than a meg when it is not running.
Spotlight is the exact same way, same with Beagle, there is simply no fast way to index several hundred thousand files while grabbing all the metadata that these products do.
That doesn't make sense, this is why you layer your security, you have your firewall funneling through an IDS system then another firewall from another provider then you get to your actual environment where you utilize Tripwire. There is no guaranteeing that the firewall won't have some vulnerability but the IDS software would detect it and proper authorities could be notified. Alternatively if the IDS system detects this behavior it can ban entire subnets from access to the network. It would push the would-be hacker back out through so many layers of security they would probably give up. It wouldn't even be that hard to manage since all management is done through a dedicated VLAN of course.
Besides the Office Space reference that is scarily similar to the original stated purposed for DHS. Since the issue of 9/11 was theoretically caused by the CIA not getting the proper information to the FBI. I could be mistaken, in which case I still enjoyed the reference.
Silly me, I drive sports cars fast, especially on long trips. I've driven from Phoenix to LA in an Accord about I got roughly 280 miles to the tank at best. My Neon did roughly the same. Now a Mustang, particularly the new Shelby GT you will get probably 200 miles to your tank.
My father drove a brand new 2006 Civic from Burlington to Fishkill and you bet he had to gas up. He's not even a fast driver. It's 200 miles each way. I wasn't in the car so I'm not sure if the low fuel level actually came on or if he was just too close to E for comfort.
In any case, I think we all agree they would make great commuter vehicles regardless. There's simply no question cross-country would be difficult although not impossible. I would be curious about the Tesla's energy efficiency, if its going 130mph for 250 miles then what would happen if you were going 70mph? Would it require the same amount of charge? I tend not to think so. I don't have numbers for those scenarios though. It's much the same as if I drive my car 70 for the 400 mile trek to LA or if I'm going 120 most of the way. I had to gas up twice. Once to get there, once to get back.
We used Vertical's Televantage product utilizing Intel dialogic boards probably the same as your Asterisk setup. The only trick seems to be the SIP phone software but Windows Mobile based phones are extraordinarily easy to develop for. I'm definitely going to have to look into it to see if the software already exists. It will also depend on provider because of the one feature I hate about Windows Mobile, the provider can require the application be signed to be installed so that you have to go through your carrier to get the software.
Cingular seems to be more friendly about this but Verizon is terrible. Of course with Cingular now you have to deal with ATT and that's rough too. Seems a shame all the phones that actually work seem to be outside the U.S.
I don't like the size of the Treos but they do get the job done. Windows Mobile 6 phones will be a lot easier to work with in regards to SIP integration so it may be a case of stay tuned.
We're an Exchange shop so ActiveSync is really a big deal. Right now front end box only has port 80 and 443 open. I've never felt comfortable going to pop3 but since I already have an SSL certificate maybe I could change that. Then I could use any type of phone and that would be nice. Smart phones have indeed come a long way. I'd say in the last year they actually became useful.
That would be a deal breaker in my mind. If it hangs or becomes unavailable at all then it is pointless as that completely defeats the purposes of moving to ZFS. That is good info though.
I might have to try something like this for my own purposes as I can have a custom routing list for my extension here at work. The soft-phones for Windows Mobile give you the same options. The E70 seems like a nice little phone though. Inbound calls would be pretty easy though and I don't think it would really take too special of a phone to accomplish it. I could set my current office phone to out of office where it will automatically go to my cell but that requires manual intervention. Ultimately I'd want to do this for the execs so that type of solution wouldn't work for them. An automatic version would though since they all have Treos. Wireless ActiveSync is very nice.
yeah you are right. I was thinking of something that was more of a skin for the whole car but that poses a whole host of other problems. Of course while you're sitting at a restaurant eating lunch your car is charging so I think you could get more than another 20 miles. You're right though, for city driving it would work perfectly, can't go cross country.
Yeah, you have a strange tone in all your posts. Probably because you don't wish to think and expect everyone to spell everything out for you.
A trip around the southwest would require little to no planning with weather not mattering. So I can drive from Phoenix, to Vegas, to LA, to San Diego without stopping. If you wanted to go all the way across the country without having to stop to charge then you would have to plan your trip according to the weather. You could then do the whole trip non-stop unlike any other vehicle out there which would require you to gas up several times.
Also, 250 miles is roughly the same range as a lot of traditional cars. The only difference being that it takes 5 minutes to gas up and go again whereas the Tesla would require a 3 hour charge. If it was charging the whole time you would go across the southwest off basically solar power and get through the cloudy parts using the 250 mile range that the batteries have. It's not a bad deal.
If a third option could also be integrated you could also use an IC engine to recharge in the event that weather isn't cooperating. You could refuel that as needed. I don't think that is a valid option with the Tesla but I don't know if something couldn't be worked out.
I was looking at implementing something similar with the Palm Treo 700wx which has wifi. My PBX supports SIP and there is a soft-phone client for Windows Mobile so it's a question of stitching it all-together. The location awareness is the part that gets me but I guess that is a question of call routing. If the station is registered on the network route through SIP, if not, then route cellular. Doesn't seem like it would require anything special on the phone necessarily.
I wasn't sure if there was something special about the E70 that allowed that type of capability over any phone with wifi and API support. Might be a programming project, our phone system is super easy to integrate with.
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Had you actually read my post you would have seen I was talking about Quicktime which had support for WMV built-in since WMV 6 came out. I knew MS stopped development but there is WMV support all over and on almost every platform.
Really? I had it working on Yellow Dog years ago, did it get removed?
As for your first question, why should the BBC choose a proprietary format that 800 million computers in-use today support? That's not even worth answering, it's just plain silly particularly from a news agency trying to reach as many people as possible.
This is not a debate. You haven't actually presented a rebuttal to anything I said, you merely cast it all off as irrelevant.
The problem isn't with WMV, it's with the DRM employed. Lift the DRM and over 800 million computers out there can play the content. Sorry but that's not irrelevant simply because you say it is. Having not heard of MKV also matters a great deal, the format is not widely adopted and so there is limited expertise in it. Since it is a container then that shouldn't really change anything in which case, why did you bring it up? Regardless, the vast majority of players out there won't play it and the vast majority of people out there either can't or won't download and install it. Look how long it took flash to get adopted?
Also not irrelevent is the fact that you don't need Windows Media encoder to produce WMV. You can use free and open source products to produce this content which is very much in fact relevant.
The fact that the DRM is optional is also not irrelevant because it applies to both the recording side as well as the playback side. If it is not employed on the recording side then all players will be able to play it or at least the vast majority.
You really have an odd concept of what a debate is if you think that is what you were doing.
Debate the DRM, that is something actually worthwhile given the tradition of the BBC in it's preservation of history rather than the restriction of it.
Why would a Mac be left out due to WMV? Perhaps due to DRM but the format itself works on pretty much everything these days. Did Apple intentionally pull support from Quicktime for it? Seems silly given that roughly 800 million computers out there have Windows Media Player.
Really? What platform can you not play Windows Media on? Even my phone can play Windows Media. I would be surprised if the iPod video didn't support wmv either. Certainly easy in every linux distro out there, No problem on the Mac. All supported out of the box versus MKV which I've never even heard of let alone downloaded a codec for. This is just silly, you don't even need Windows Media encoder to create Windows Media files. The DRM is entirely optional.
I agree that both sides aren't necessarily ethical, but how do you handle the situation then? Redistributing wealth does sound like a bad thing if I'm a person who has wealth and sounds great to me if I don't.
The problem comes about when you try to correct the inequities since it invariably requires redistributing wealth. The old adage it takes money to make money is as true today as it ever has been. That also means those without money are either finding it impossible to change that or it is substantially more difficult. Think of Youtube, could such a service have been started by someone without any money? It probably would have taken years longer giving time for someone else to capitalize on the idea making the playing field even steeper.
I honestly don't know what a fair an equitable solution would be beyond increased taxation of the rich which is just redistribution of wealth.
A valid idea except for the fact that the older kid starts out ahead of the younger kid so the younger kid spends his/her energy catching up. Usually the younger kid has more time for such things.
I also think it depends on the atmosphere and age difference. If the kid is 8 years older than the younger then the order probably makes no difference. An even more extreme circumstance is my cousin's girlfriend. She has a daughter who is 26 and 24 years later she had twins. I'm willing to bet the experience she gained from being a parent will help the twins and ultimately the twins will be much more intelligent as her older daughter is making a lot of the same mistakes she did.
Of course we're all aware that IQ isn't everything, certainly not the difference between attending one of them fancy schools versus community college.
I don't understand why they don't just make a system to do this. You the voter get a print-out and the voting office gets a print-out. Then the electronic counting can instantly tally everything. If there is a dispute then you count the paper ballots and life is grand. It's so simple it of course wouldn't work.
Of course then you need people on site which can service the printers since they will invariably break.
So duct tape and Velcro and thousands of other things which became part of all of our lives don't count for anything in the trip to the moon?
Seems like people forget that it's hard to get to some place far away and that the tools you develop to allow you to get there can and often do help out on Earth as well.
Perhaps more to the point it would be be something we do that we can actually succeed at unlike a lot of other things we've been doing lately which are miserable failures. I think this would pull a lot of the country at least together and hopefully get other countries interested in advancing the technology around it. Only war has produced more technology than NASA, to me, NASA makes a hell of a lot more sense on every level.
For the record I was indeed driving 100 - 120mph on my trips. That's how I discovered the Neon topped out at 127mph and the Accord the same both because of the ratings on their stock tires so the governor limits them. I call this a good thing so I didn't lift the restriction because then I have to buy new tires and brakes and that's just more than I think I need to do to a Neon or Accord.
The range on the Tesla was stated as 250 miles at 130mph though. So I don't know what it's effective range would be. I don't have enough information to make an accurate estimate as even the speed estimate wasn't stated directly, only inferred so it could very well be 250 miles at 70mph
I haven't experienced this sluggishness at all. Not saying its not possible, I just don't see it happening. If that's how WDS works then it would make sense that it would slow down performance but Outlook does keep a lot of information in ram. Outlooks handling of PSTs does piss me off though. Of course the vast majority of my files are on the network and not on my laptop so that probably plays into it. If you have a lot of archives and complicated documents then I could see it causing a slowdown. In those circumstances I have server side indexing though where the server can sit there all night indexing and the next night and the next night.
If you set it to index files on a remote server then I could definitely see it causing a slowdown but as I said, the server has its own indexing that works beautifully so I can't imagine why anyone would want to do it on their own workstation except if they want to slow down their own machines.
huh? Last I checked it had the lowest priority and consumed only a max amount of memory, about 30megs worth, it would continue at that pace as long as there was no user activity for five minutes. It doesn't move other apps out of memory or even move them into virtual memory, if the app in question is actually doing something then the indexing service won't run. If the app is question is sitting idle then it has already been moved to virtual memory.
If you install it on an existing machine with lots and lots of files then install it and go to bed. In the morning it will be fine, no slowdown at all and then you'll have the added advantage of instant searching. If it's a new install then there aren't a lot of files to index so you'll be done in an hour.
That's just simply crap, I did all that on a Pentium M laptop with 1gig of ram and an 80gig hard drive. It doesn't affect performance in the slightest beyond taking up that additional 30megs of ram while it's running. It drops down to less than a meg when it is not running.
Spotlight is the exact same way, same with Beagle, there is simply no fast way to index several hundred thousand files while grabbing all the metadata that these products do.
I'd rather have the gold out of the mine thank you very much.
That doesn't make sense, this is why you layer your security, you have your firewall funneling through an IDS system then another firewall from another provider then you get to your actual environment where you utilize Tripwire. There is no guaranteeing that the firewall won't have some vulnerability but the IDS software would detect it and proper authorities could be notified. Alternatively if the IDS system detects this behavior it can ban entire subnets from access to the network. It would push the would-be hacker back out through so many layers of security they would probably give up. It wouldn't even be that hard to manage since all management is done through a dedicated VLAN of course.
Besides the Office Space reference that is scarily similar to the original stated purposed for DHS. Since the issue of 9/11 was theoretically caused by the CIA not getting the proper information to the FBI. I could be mistaken, in which case I still enjoyed the reference.
Silly me, I drive sports cars fast, especially on long trips. I've driven from Phoenix to LA in an Accord about I got roughly 280 miles to the tank at best. My Neon did roughly the same. Now a Mustang, particularly the new Shelby GT you will get probably 200 miles to your tank.
My father drove a brand new 2006 Civic from Burlington to Fishkill and you bet he had to gas up. He's not even a fast driver. It's 200 miles each way. I wasn't in the car so I'm not sure if the low fuel level actually came on or if he was just too close to E for comfort.
In any case, I think we all agree they would make great commuter vehicles regardless. There's simply no question cross-country would be difficult although not impossible. I would be curious about the Tesla's energy efficiency, if its going 130mph for 250 miles then what would happen if you were going 70mph? Would it require the same amount of charge? I tend not to think so. I don't have numbers for those scenarios though. It's much the same as if I drive my car 70 for the 400 mile trek to LA or if I'm going 120 most of the way. I had to gas up twice. Once to get there, once to get back.
So you mean by typing on the dirty screen. Sounds like a plan to me.
Exchange pretty much all versions support all of that as well. So does Outlook.
Thanks, I'll check it out
We used Vertical's Televantage product utilizing Intel dialogic boards probably the same as your Asterisk setup. The only trick seems to be the SIP phone software but Windows Mobile based phones are extraordinarily easy to develop for. I'm definitely going to have to look into it to see if the software already exists. It will also depend on provider because of the one feature I hate about Windows Mobile, the provider can require the application be signed to be installed so that you have to go through your carrier to get the software.
Cingular seems to be more friendly about this but Verizon is terrible. Of course with Cingular now you have to deal with ATT and that's rough too. Seems a shame all the phones that actually work seem to be outside the U.S.
I don't like the size of the Treos but they do get the job done. Windows Mobile 6 phones will be a lot easier to work with in regards to SIP integration so it may be a case of stay tuned.
We're an Exchange shop so ActiveSync is really a big deal. Right now front end box only has port 80 and 443 open. I've never felt comfortable going to pop3 but since I already have an SSL certificate maybe I could change that. Then I could use any type of phone and that would be nice. Smart phones have indeed come a long way. I'd say in the last year they actually became useful.
That would be a deal breaker in my mind. If it hangs or becomes unavailable at all then it is pointless as that completely defeats the purposes of moving to ZFS. That is good info though.
I might have to try something like this for my own purposes as I can have a custom routing list for my extension here at work. The soft-phones for Windows Mobile give you the same options. The E70 seems like a nice little phone though. Inbound calls would be pretty easy though and I don't think it would really take too special of a phone to accomplish it. I could set my current office phone to out of office where it will automatically go to my cell but that requires manual intervention. Ultimately I'd want to do this for the execs so that type of solution wouldn't work for them. An automatic version would though since they all have Treos. Wireless ActiveSync is very nice.
yeah you are right. I was thinking of something that was more of a skin for the whole car but that poses a whole host of other problems. Of course while you're sitting at a restaurant eating lunch your car is charging so I think you could get more than another 20 miles. You're right though, for city driving it would work perfectly, can't go cross country.
Yeah, you have a strange tone in all your posts. Probably because you don't wish to think and expect everyone to spell everything out for you.
A trip around the southwest would require little to no planning with weather not mattering. So I can drive from Phoenix, to Vegas, to LA, to San Diego without stopping. If you wanted to go all the way across the country without having to stop to charge then you would have to plan your trip according to the weather. You could then do the whole trip non-stop unlike any other vehicle out there which would require you to gas up several times.
Also, 250 miles is roughly the same range as a lot of traditional cars. The only difference being that it takes 5 minutes to gas up and go again whereas the Tesla would require a 3 hour charge. If it was charging the whole time you would go across the southwest off basically solar power and get through the cloudy parts using the 250 mile range that the batteries have. It's not a bad deal.
If a third option could also be integrated you could also use an IC engine to recharge in the event that weather isn't cooperating. You could refuel that as needed. I don't think that is a valid option with the Tesla but I don't know if something couldn't be worked out.
I was looking at implementing something similar with the Palm Treo 700wx which has wifi. My PBX supports SIP and there is a soft-phone client for Windows Mobile so it's a question of stitching it all-together. The location awareness is the part that gets me but I guess that is a question of call routing. If the station is registered on the network route through SIP, if not, then route cellular. Doesn't seem like it would require anything special on the phone necessarily.
I wasn't sure if there was something special about the E70 that allowed that type of capability over any phone with wifi and API support. Might be a programming project, our phone system is super easy to integrate with.