Why does it have to offer some benefit above and beyond what's out there? It just has to be as-good and provide another option for those looking to buy a phone. Not all Andriod phones are equal, so another option out there (from an end-user perspective) would be nice.
I understand from a business perspective, though, there has to be a PROFITABLE benfit to producing and supporting these phones. As long as it's "as good" though, why wouldn't a few OEMs test the market with it?
I don't know about Youtube, but there are 140-odd 1 or 2-star reviews just on a Samsung model on Amazon. I'm sure other models are similar. Certainly enough to make an educated decision.
Do any of the other services you list have algorithms that match music you like similar to Pandora? My Pandora station has 15-20 artists across a wide variety of music genres, so the resulting stream is an interesting mix. If the services you listed do something similar, great. Otherwise, you don't know what you're missing.
The book Evolution by Stephen Baxter describes a fictional "air whale" dinosaur that, like a whale, skims the bugs and whatnot that's lofted into the atmosphere. Not quite microbes, but interesting fiction. Thier light bone structure would mean no fossil traces were left. The same with in intelligent, simple tool making dinosaurs - no trace would be left, so how would we know? It's an interesting book.
On a desktop, I agree. On a laptop, I think sometimes it'd be easier to just stab at the screen rather than playing around with the trackpad or nipple, though. Assuming there's no mouse.
The sideways scrolling in most Metro apps would be more convienent with a touchscreen, but that's about it. As with anything new, once you spend a little time with it, the new muscle memory forms and it's quite useful.
Too many people are hung up on "an additional click or two" being the sole measure of usability.
This was a discussion from a previous article, but banks in Europe are doing things a lot better. All cards are smart cards. In order to log in, you must have the one-time code created by the card reader after inserting your card and PIN. Transactions are further verified by a challenge/response system using the same card reader.
When paying with your card, it never leaves your possession. The card reader is brought to your table or is at the point of sale. You slide in the card and enter your PIN to pay. I've been to a few places that just don't know how to swipe the card in order to pay, although it's usually possible if they can figure out how to set up the transaction.
I don't know how this works for online payments as I've never bought anything online with my European cards.
What really annoys me are systems that don't allow me to use ANYTHING I WANT as a password or pass phrase. One BANKING site limits my passwords to 12 characters. WTF? Others don't allow certain special characters or spaces. If you program a site like this, you need to be fired.
Advertisers buy advertising space based on keywords or other criteria. The keyword could be an area code of XXX, meaning Facebook will show their add X000 times to users with an XXX area code. The advertisers don't get a list of X000 people with matching area code, their ad just gets presented.
The keypads are a small part, though, as I mentioned. Every point of sale would have to get a new reader to validate smart-cards and the PIN. I get funny looks in Europe when I use my US cards that have to be swiped. How quaint...
I've never bought anything online with my European cards, though, so I have no idea how that's implemented. I can't imagine every retailer is using a challenge/response system like the bank websites are... If it's just a matter of entering card information like we do in the US, then this whole system is useless for online fraud, no?
It wouldn't. But a challenge/response system where you must have the card, reader, PIN and one-time code to log in and then, again, the card, reader, PIN, challenge from the website and the appropriate response code to make the transfer, would make life very hard for the phisher. The "identify" and "sign" functions are different actions, so you'd have to fool the user into signing the transaction.
Social engineering over the phone posing as bank representatives would probably be more effective than automating this.
The point of the keypads is that it verifies you're in posession of the card. You need the card, the reader and your PIN to generate the response code the website is looking for. When validating transactions, you need all of that plus a challenge code that the banking website provides.
So it's more than those keychain dongles that have changing codes on them...
This is what my bank does, actually. The challenge/response method after inserting your card into the reader and entering your PIN. Sometimes there are several challenges, based on what you're doing (multiple transactions). The response is then entered into the website to validate the payment/transfer. You can configure some recipients to not require challenge/response after you've done it the first time (utilities, cable, etc.).
Sorry for using the wrong terms. THIS is the method that US banks should be using. You're right that they won't do it until fraud costs more, though.
Among the top forms of card fraud are card not present, counterfeit cards and lost/stolen card fraud, but the biggest category of card fraud is "first-party" fraud, which is committed either by a thief or a legitimate cardholder who intentionally decides not to pay off a credit card balance, the report showed.
One-time code devices and associated smart cards would likely significantly reduce the first three issues, it'd do nothing for the last.
It's also more than just the one-time pin/code generation devices, too. Credit/Debit cards would have to be re-issued as smart cards and all payment machines would likely have to be upgraded read the cards and verify pins for purchases. That's the investment part the US banks aren't going to want to make.
Anyway, when you have real friends whom you love and respect like family members, and a satisfying social life, Facebook has no appeal.
For you, and some others, probably. I don't know you can state this as a universal rule. For some, it's a TOOL that provides an additional way to maintain those friendships and build acquantances with people with similar interests. I like to bullshit with the SEC Football fans on their page during the season, for example.
The trade-off of losing so much irretrievable privacy in exchange for something so devoid of real value makes no sense.
The only privacy you lose by participating on Facebook is that which you freely choose to give away.
You wouldn't have to provide Internet access, just have a low power transmitter in each theater to notify the phones. I'm assuming this would be something just broadcast, like in the beacon frames. Theaters are usually built pretty solid to insulate the sound, so I doubt there'd be much issue about leakage.
lol... you know the groupthink here is the only right way.
I'd rather see some kind of signal being sent that you can set to alert, or automatically accept or always ignore rather than location-based services, but location is easier to deal with for now, I'm sure. I agree that this shouldn't be something patentable unless it's a very unique implementation... and even then probably not.
Just because the MS answer is looking like the wrong kind of unification, it doesn't mean it's not a worthy goal. Desktops and tablets aren't as different as cars and airplanes.
MS is just going to add a "Default to Desktop" option and a fucking start menu and 90% of the squeaky wheels will shut up. Well... they'll never really shut up completely. There's always something new or different to be afraid of.
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Why does it have to offer some benefit above and beyond what's out there? It just has to be as-good and provide another option for those looking to buy a phone. Not all Andriod phones are equal, so another option out there (from an end-user perspective) would be nice.
I understand from a business perspective, though, there has to be a PROFITABLE benfit to producing and supporting these phones. As long as it's "as good" though, why wouldn't a few OEMs test the market with it?
I don't know about Youtube, but there are 140-odd 1 or 2-star reviews just on a Samsung model on Amazon. I'm sure other models are similar. Certainly enough to make an educated decision.
Do any of the other services you list have algorithms that match music you like similar to Pandora? My Pandora station has 15-20 artists across a wide variety of music genres, so the resulting stream is an interesting mix. If the services you listed do something similar, great. Otherwise, you don't know what you're missing.
The book Evolution by Stephen Baxter describes a fictional "air whale" dinosaur that, like a whale, skims the bugs and whatnot that's lofted into the atmosphere. Not quite microbes, but interesting fiction. Thier light bone structure would mean no fossil traces were left. The same with in intelligent, simple tool making dinosaurs - no trace would be left, so how would we know? It's an interesting book.
On a desktop, I agree. On a laptop, I think sometimes it'd be easier to just stab at the screen rather than playing around with the trackpad or nipple, though. Assuming there's no mouse.
The sideways scrolling in most Metro apps would be more convienent with a touchscreen, but that's about it. As with anything new, once you spend a little time with it, the new muscle memory forms and it's quite useful.
Too many people are hung up on "an additional click or two" being the sole measure of usability.
Isn't that the point of Win RT? Everything available there has been designed for a tablet, no?
This was a discussion from a previous article, but banks in Europe are doing things a lot better. All cards are smart cards. In order to log in, you must have the one-time code created by the card reader after inserting your card and PIN. Transactions are further verified by a challenge/response system using the same card reader.
When paying with your card, it never leaves your possession. The card reader is brought to your table or is at the point of sale. You slide in the card and enter your PIN to pay. I've been to a few places that just don't know how to swipe the card in order to pay, although it's usually possible if they can figure out how to set up the transaction.
I don't know how this works for online payments as I've never bought anything online with my European cards.
I do this with a combination of special characters, numerals and case, but I haven't been tying it to the specific site. I should probably do that...
The problem is the damn sites I come across the don't allow specific characters or spaces or limit the length of my password... stupid.
What really annoys me are systems that don't allow me to use ANYTHING I WANT as a password or pass phrase. One BANKING site limits my passwords to 12 characters. WTF? Others don't allow certain special characters or spaces. If you program a site like this, you need to be fired.
The sunlight reaching the solar panels is intermittent based on the types of weather. The TYPES of weather we receive are intermittent, also.
Advertisers buy advertising space based on keywords or other criteria. The keyword could be an area code of XXX, meaning Facebook will show their add X000 times to users with an XXX area code. The advertisers don't get a list of X000 people with matching area code, their ad just gets presented.
Thats how it's described, at least.
The keypads are a small part, though, as I mentioned. Every point of sale would have to get a new reader to validate smart-cards and the PIN. I get funny looks in Europe when I use my US cards that have to be swiped. How quaint...
I've never bought anything online with my European cards, though, so I have no idea how that's implemented. I can't imagine every retailer is using a challenge/response system like the bank websites are... If it's just a matter of entering card information like we do in the US, then this whole system is useless for online fraud, no?
It wouldn't. But a challenge/response system where you must have the card, reader, PIN and one-time code to log in and then, again, the card, reader, PIN, challenge from the website and the appropriate response code to make the transfer, would make life very hard for the phisher. The "identify" and "sign" functions are different actions, so you'd have to fool the user into signing the transaction.
Social engineering over the phone posing as bank representatives would probably be more effective than automating this.
The point of the keypads is that it verifies you're in posession of the card. You need the card, the reader and your PIN to generate the response code the website is looking for. When validating transactions, you need all of that plus a challenge code that the banking website provides.
So it's more than those keychain dongles that have changing codes on them...
This is what my bank does, actually. The challenge/response method after inserting your card into the reader and entering your PIN. Sometimes there are several challenges, based on what you're doing (multiple transactions). The response is then entered into the website to validate the payment/transfer. You can configure some recipients to not require challenge/response after you've done it the first time (utilities, cable, etc.).
Sorry for using the wrong terms. THIS is the method that US banks should be using. You're right that they won't do it until fraud costs more, though.
I have no idea. I'd imagine that it would be worth it overall, though.
Quick Google search found card fraud costs $86M per year.
Although...
One-time code devices and associated smart cards would likely significantly reduce the first three issues, it'd do nothing for the last.
It's also more than just the one-time pin/code generation devices, too. Credit/Debit cards would have to be re-issued as smart cards and all payment machines would likely have to be upgraded read the cards and verify pins for purchases. That's the investment part the US banks aren't going to want to make.
And gaining a user's ONE TIME password/pin gains them what?
They need to do like European banks and issue keypads that generate one-time codes in conjuction with the card.
For you, and some others, probably. I don't know you can state this as a universal rule. For some, it's a TOOL that provides an additional way to maintain those friendships and build acquantances with people with similar interests. I like to bullshit with the SEC Football fans on their page during the season, for example.
The only privacy you lose by participating on Facebook is that which you freely choose to give away.
You wouldn't have to provide Internet access, just have a low power transmitter in each theater to notify the phones. I'm assuming this would be something just broadcast, like in the beacon frames. Theaters are usually built pretty solid to insulate the sound, so I doubt there'd be much issue about leakage.
Actually, from reading further down it looks like there is a claim 6 that triggers this based on a signal from a wifi access point.
lol... you know the groupthink here is the only right way.
I'd rather see some kind of signal being sent that you can set to alert, or automatically accept or always ignore rather than location-based services, but location is easier to deal with for now, I'm sure. I agree that this shouldn't be something patentable unless it's a very unique implementation... and even then probably not.
Just because the MS answer is looking like the wrong kind of unification, it doesn't mean it's not a worthy goal. Desktops and tablets aren't as different as cars and airplanes.
MS is just going to add a "Default to Desktop" option and a fucking start menu and 90% of the squeaky wheels will shut up. Well... they'll never really shut up completely. There's always something new or different to be afraid of.
How much slower? If MS is taking a page from Apple, it'll be on future releases. Keep obvious features out to entice upgrades.