I'm not so sure your analogy with murder fits. She could receive a judgement of $30 million. (200 songs times $150k) That amounts to a lifetime of slavery to the RIAA, not much different than life in prison (maybe worse), so it could be as bad as murder (though no death penalty, but wait a few years;-).
Also, I question wether she really did try to erase evidence. If you read the article, it says: "...the record companies' expert opined that the defendant had downloaded over 200 sound recordings during 2005..." (emphasis mine.) She could have removed the file sharing program and deleted the music several months ago, possibly before hearing about any court case, and the computer would've overwritten most of the data by regular operation.
In fact, how can we really know from the story if she really was using a file sharing program at all? From all the other news stories I've read, I wouldn't be surprised if they wrongly accused her, searched her hard drive, found nothing, then said: "well, she must have wiped it." I don't even see her side of the story here...
I'm personally waiting till after the analog broadcast switchover deadline passes before I upgrade to a widescreen set...
BTW, when is that? I could've sworn the deadline was last December, but obviously not. Then again I did have two strokes, so my memory doesn't work so well anymore...
If hollywood gets their actual DRM, that will be absolutely true, no matter what form it comes in. You won't be able to buy adaptors because then "pirates" could use them to circumvent the system. All old televisions would need to be thrown away.
Yeah, computer monitors also used to have burn in issues. I remember my father bought a computer with a monochrome monitor. My mother would play her card game then leave it idle for hours. After years of that, you could still see the "cards" on the screen even when the computer was off.:-D
As far as I have seen, modern monitors don't have that problem...
It seems to me most of those situations would apply to your home computer too. Someone can hack into it--do you spend as much time on security as an admin at work? Court order/government investigation--how is this different from your home? If you or an associate is being investigated, they don't stop at your workplace. Rogue employee--what about a rogue friend or family member? You may trust them, but sometimes even family lets you down.
Hmmm...I've always wanted a PDA I can program for and directly on. All the ones I looked at seem to either require Windows for programming or were using some completely closed system--I think you had to pay a bunch of money just to get the developer kit. Maybe with more Linux PDAs, my dream will come true? Is Qtopia free to develop? Hmmm... Open source downloads? Maybe so...
You are full of shit. I submit a post about standards, and you reply with some crap about it not being possible to follow the UI guidlines of the operating system and such. I say it shouldn't matter that much, and the standard and the libraries can be built so they follow each operating system's guidlines if need be anyway. And all you get out of it is that I must tell all of my users they are stupid. I doubt you are even reading my posts.
So Java had problems. Are you so shortsighted that you thing everything will turn out like exactly Java and Microsoft Windows? If you hate Java so much then go write a letter to Sun and tell them they need to use the operating system's widgets instead of their own custom ones. Would probably make the thing faster anyway...
You must have some incredibly stupid users if they can't even figure out that a program is using different keyboard shortcuts or puts widgets in different places. Inconvienent, yes, but it shouldn't be such a big problem. So you're telling me if they tried to drive in a different car, they couln't do it unless it had the exact same layout? Any idiot could figure it out even if the brake and gas were swapped. At least things are labeled on a computer and it won't crash into anything or blow up. You might loose something important, but Bill Gates proved no one cares about that (and backups help a little)
Not to mention the fact usability doesn't have anything to do with compatiblity, which is what I was talking about.
Also, said problem coulod be easily resolved by making the standard more generic. Why should the programmers be placing menus and buttons anyway? If they go into a standarized place, then the toolkit should handle it.
Fine. Let us see you put a bunch of DVD software into a Linux distribution. Then travel to Hollywood, USA and give it to a bunch of "entertainment" executives and lawyers. Do you like prison?
Who cares if Java programs don't look the same on different OSs? Are you one of those people who say everything has to look like Windows XP? What's this about not running the same? Are you talking about system specific syscalls or Microsoft J++ crap? Things like that shouldn't be put into a portable app anyway. The only time you'd want to do that is in a system utility. Sometimes the standards are not complete, then you will be required to either go without or write system specific things, but the real solution is to fix the standard.
The main obstacle to binary portablility is different processor architectures (80386 vs 68000 &etc). Linux runs on quite a few different systems, does it not? If problems of portability were so huge, this would not be possible.
Microsoft created the myth that different operating systems can't run the same software by deliberately breaking standards and refusing to be compatible...well and making such a bloated, crufty system no one can clone it.
On DVDs: I was talking about the legal issues which cause problems for anyone who wants to distribute any open source DVD player software. The encryption means a DMCA violation is required because it has to be cracked to read the DVD data.
Why do they have to standardize hardware? It would be better if the ways hardware was accessed be standardized--such as with IDE, PCI, etc--I'd love to see that with video cards, however I don't see why a rigid standard of what goes into a computer is needed. Anyone should be able to put any sort of weird hardware into their system and it shouldn't be a problem--as long as the driver works fine and the system's resources are not overused. Why not?
How do you know they don't train their nerds to behave this way? After all, I'm sure it makes them money. They may lose all their smart customers, but today it seems companies just want stupid customers who are easy to screw over...
Linux not being able to play DVDs is Hollywood's
fault 100%. They are the ones who insisted the
format be encrypted. They are the ones who
insisted it be controlled by a cartel. Anyone
who had made an open source program to play DVDs in the wrong
jurisdiction was prosecuted under the DMCA.
As for "virtualization" that is a stupid idea.
How about program compatibility? One executable
to run on all systems. Java did it. Java had
problems (why not compile at install time? JIT
sucked--it took too long) but it worked. Unfortunately,
the great empire decided it was a threat, so they
squashed it. In a way Posix compliant systems (the BSDs, Linux, OS X, Unix)
have it. A compliant program will generally compile
for all of those systems...or so I'm told.
Like the other poster said, Standards are the
key.
You are suprised it took this long for the FCC
to go after them? I'm not. The FCC is a whore to the
highest bidder.
They sold most of the radio
spectrum out from under the public. Why do you
think you have to pay such outrageous prices
for cellphone service? Those are public airwaves
you are using--they should be free. Cellphones
should cost about as much as a landline to use.
Then there is WiFi. Do you know what part of
the spectrum it is on? The same one which microwave
ovens interfere. We should have multigigabit
wireless networking with a range of kilometers.
Where you could essentialy have acess to a
citywide LAN just by plugging a networking
card into your computer.
I'm suprized the FCC went after them at all.
Tomorrow I expect to see someone from the FCC
Reading from a corporate letterhead and holding
a briefcase with money falling out of it, saying:
"We apologize to our corporate spons..I mean
friendly companies. Our accusations were unfounded
and a mistake. Have a doubleplusgood day.:-)"
You are obviously not a touch typist. What about acronyms? What about system constants and macros? Typing SO_KEEPALIVE, SOCK_STREAM, MODULE_LICENSE, and EXPORT_SYMBOL would be a pain in the ass if the caps lock wasn't in an easy to reach place.
What needs to go is the "Windows" and "Menu" keys. At least move them to another part of the keyboard. It is hard enough to hit the Control and Alt keys with your pinkie, then they made them smaller! They were probably put there because Bill Gates noticed people who use other operating systems have lots of things bound to Ctrl sequences. Commander Stalin^WGates thinks everyone should use the mouse. Yay monopolies. They do us such good.
I'm really important and I'm lonely. So if I call you, will you hand the phone to the nearest hot chick? Preferably one who is a Linux freak and video game robot?
More on the subject of the story (or maybe not) yesterday my kidney doctor told me next month she was going to work once a week so she could see more of her kids. What a coincidence.
Anyway, why not make technocrat.net P2P? I know at least The Circle has a way of filtering out undesireable posts using P2P. There really needs to be a good P2P news system with a good interface (last time I checked, Circle's wasn't that good), filtering system, reasonably popular, and just doesn't suck. At the very least, you could make one really popular, I'm sure.
BTW, I thought you'd have more important things to do than read slashdot.
I find it ironic that you won't send your credit card number by unencrypted email, but your solution is to give it over an unencrypted telephone connection.
I doubt it is any more difficult for someone to eavesdrop on a phone conversation than to capture network packets...
How much does it matter if the info is "out of date"? How much really changes with Linux, Posix and Unix style systems anyway? I don't think Linux has really changed a whole lot in the ten years I've been using it. Maybe iptables and direct rendering were added. The internals of X seem to have changed quite a bit, but configuring doesn't seem to be very different...I just can't think of many places in the howtos which would need updating...
I kind of cringed when I saw this topic, because I expect to see a lot trolls posting anecdotes about how someone screamed at them to RTFM, how everyone is sooo hostile, and other such BS.
Those aren't trolls and that isn't BS. Maybe you haven't seen that behavoir, but I have. The Linux newsgroups on Usenet a few years ago were exactly like that. People would get pissed of because someone asked a question which none of them knew the answer. Then they'd be pissed because someone outside their circle answered it.
Specificly the one I remember: some embedded guy asked how to make direct calls to the kernel, so he wouldn't have to include the huge system libraries--libc alone is over 1Mb. They give him long winded reply more or less saying: "why would you want to do that?" in a nasty tone as if to say only an idiot would want to do it. Then some poor bloke answers the guy. From what I understand, they sent a complaint to that guy's ISP. There would be all sorts of crap like that.
I suppose you don't see that on most websites because the complaints would go to the webmaster. The webmaster of a linux site would probably know the correct person to ban or at least they just don't care, so no absurd punisments get dolled out to people who don't deserve them.
Why can't users just run any browser, including those which don't support javascript? I would like to use Dillo, but many websites require javascript, even for things which should not.
Why must they do this?
I think the people who help women or female avatars are idiots who deserve to be pummeled into the ground. They're perpetuating the system of fake prostitution. Why should a woman be given gifts just because she is a woman?
Not only that, even after they find out the person running it is a guy, they still give stuff to him. WTF???
I know people modded that funny, but that isn't a bad idea. However, since the poster mentioned Linux, why not set Linux up on a dual boot, disable all internet access on MS Windows, then set up internet access on Linux only. That way, the sister will still be able to run the "holy" Windows programs, but will not easily be able to download and install malware. No XP Professional required.
I don't understand why they wouldn't supply the basic security features in the Home version. In fact, they should have put it in Windows 95. Linux and FreeBSD both had file permissions from the beginning--okay I haven't been using them that long, but I know it was before '95. I wonder why that is...oh yeah, MS doesn't care about their customers, they just want to fleece them.
If you think WGA is bad, wait for Microsoft's DCM. First you won't be able to write any drivers for their OS without thier signature, then who knows how far they'll go. You'll probably have to pay a dollar(US) just to copy a picture you took on your digital camera. Not to mention the activities they will restrict.
I do find ATIs lack of Linux support to be disappointing now however, because those of us interested on running Linux on an intel mac...
Hmmm...doesn't OS X run the FreeBSD userland? I wonder if it is not so different that you might be able to get FreeBSD's Linux Compatibility working. I suppose it is kernel based, but if OS X's kernel can run a FreeBSD userland, then why not Linux Compatibility too? At the very least, the idea should carry across. Maybe there is some project out there which ported it to or does the same thing on the Mac? I'm sure a lot of people would be interested in such a thing...
Not necessarily the same thing, but I found a program called Q emulator which may do what you want...it also emulates the 80x86 processor though, so it may be slow.
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I'm not so sure your analogy with murder fits. She could receive a judgement of $30 million. (200 songs times $150k) That amounts to a lifetime of slavery to the RIAA, not much different than life in prison (maybe worse), so it could be as bad as murder (though no death penalty, but wait a few years ;-).
Also, I question wether she really did try to erase evidence. If you read the article, it says: "...the record companies' expert opined that the defendant had downloaded over 200 sound recordings during 2005..." (emphasis mine.) She could have removed the file sharing program and deleted the music several months ago, possibly before hearing about any court case, and the computer would've overwritten most of the data by regular operation.
In fact, how can we really know from the story if she really was using a file sharing program at all? From all the other news stories I've read, I wouldn't be surprised if they wrongly accused her, searched her hard drive, found nothing, then said: "well, she must have wiped it." I don't even see her side of the story here...
BTW, when is that? I could've sworn the deadline was last December, but obviously not. Then again I did have two strokes, so my memory doesn't work so well anymore...
If hollywood gets their actual DRM, that will be absolutely true, no matter what form it comes in. You won't be able to buy adaptors because then "pirates" could use them to circumvent the system. All old televisions would need to be thrown away.
Yeah, computer monitors also used to have burn in issues. I remember my father bought a computer with a monochrome monitor. My mother would play her card game then leave it idle for hours. After years of that, you could still see the "cards" on the screen even when the computer was off. :-D
As far as I have seen, modern monitors don't have that problem...
It seems to me most of those situations would apply to your home computer too. Someone can hack into it--do you spend as much time on security as an admin at work? Court order/government investigation--how is this different from your home? If you or an associate is being investigated, they don't stop at your workplace. Rogue employee--what about a rogue friend or family member? You may trust them, but sometimes even family lets you down.
I don't see the huge difference...
Hmmm...I've always wanted a PDA I can program for and directly on. All the ones I looked at seem to either require Windows for programming or were using some completely closed system--I think you had to pay a bunch of money just to get the developer kit. Maybe with more Linux PDAs, my dream will come true? Is Qtopia free to develop? Hmmm... Open source downloads? Maybe so...
You are full of shit. I submit a post about standards, and you reply with some crap about it not being possible to follow the UI guidlines of the operating system and such. I say it shouldn't matter that much, and the standard and the libraries can be built so they follow each operating system's guidlines if need be anyway. And all you get out of it is that I must tell all of my users they are stupid. I doubt you are even reading my posts.
So Java had problems. Are you so shortsighted that you thing everything will turn out like exactly Java and Microsoft Windows? If you hate Java so much then go write a letter to Sun and tell them they need to use the operating system's widgets instead of their own custom ones. Would probably make the thing faster anyway...
You must have some incredibly stupid users if they can't even figure out that a program is using different keyboard shortcuts or puts widgets in different places. Inconvienent, yes, but it shouldn't be such a big problem. So you're telling me if they tried to drive in a different car, they couln't do it unless it had the exact same layout? Any idiot could figure it out even if the brake and gas were swapped. At least things are labeled on a computer and it won't crash into anything or blow up. You might loose something important, but Bill Gates proved no one cares about that (and backups help a little)
Not to mention the fact usability doesn't have anything to do with compatiblity, which is what I was talking about.
Also, said problem coulod be easily resolved by making the standard more generic. Why should the programmers be placing menus and buttons anyway? If they go into a standarized place, then the toolkit should handle it.
Fine. Let us see you put a bunch of DVD software into a Linux distribution. Then travel to Hollywood, USA and give it to a bunch of "entertainment" executives and lawyers. Do you like prison?
Who cares if Java programs don't look the same on different OSs? Are you one of those people who say everything has to look like Windows XP? What's this about not running the same? Are you talking about system specific syscalls or Microsoft J++ crap? Things like that shouldn't be put into a portable app anyway. The only time you'd want to do that is in a system utility. Sometimes the standards are not complete, then you will be required to either go without or write system specific things, but the real solution is to fix the standard.
The main obstacle to binary portablility is different processor architectures (80386 vs 68000 &etc). Linux runs on quite a few different systems, does it not? If problems of portability were so huge, this would not be possible.
Microsoft created the myth that different operating systems can't run the same software by deliberately breaking standards and refusing to be compatible...well and making such a bloated, crufty system no one can clone it.
On DVDs: I was talking about the legal issues which cause problems for anyone who wants to distribute any open source DVD player software. The encryption means a DMCA violation is required because it has to be cracked to read the DVD data.
Why do they have to standardize hardware? It would be better if the ways hardware was accessed be standardized--such as with IDE, PCI, etc--I'd love to see that with video cards, however I don't see why a rigid standard of what goes into a computer is needed. Anyone should be able to put any sort of weird hardware into their system and it shouldn't be a problem--as long as the driver works fine and the system's resources are not overused. Why not?
How do you know they don't train their nerds to behave this way? After all, I'm sure it makes them money. They may lose all their smart customers, but today it seems companies just want stupid customers who are easy to screw over...
Linux not being able to play DVDs is Hollywood's fault 100%. They are the ones who insisted the format be encrypted. They are the ones who insisted it be controlled by a cartel. Anyone who had made an open source program to play DVDs in the wrong jurisdiction was prosecuted under the DMCA.
As for "virtualization" that is a stupid idea. How about program compatibility? One executable to run on all systems. Java did it. Java had problems (why not compile at install time? JIT sucked--it took too long) but it worked. Unfortunately, the great empire decided it was a threat, so they squashed it. In a way Posix compliant systems (the BSDs, Linux, OS X, Unix) have it. A compliant program will generally compile for all of those systems...or so I'm told.
Like the other poster said, Standards are the key.
You are suprised it took this long for the FCC to go after them? I'm not. The FCC is a whore to the highest bidder.
They sold most of the radio spectrum out from under the public. Why do you think you have to pay such outrageous prices for cellphone service? Those are public airwaves you are using--they should be free. Cellphones should cost about as much as a landline to use.
Then there is WiFi. Do you know what part of the spectrum it is on? The same one which microwave ovens interfere. We should have multigigabit wireless networking with a range of kilometers. Where you could essentialy have acess to a citywide LAN just by plugging a networking card into your computer.
I'm suprized the FCC went after them at all. Tomorrow I expect to see someone from the FCC Reading from a corporate letterhead and holding a briefcase with money falling out of it, saying: "We apologize to our corporate spons..I mean friendly companies. Our accusations were unfounded and a mistake. Have a doubleplusgood day. :-)"
You are obviously not a touch typist. What about acronyms? What about system constants and macros? Typing SO_KEEPALIVE, SOCK_STREAM, MODULE_LICENSE, and EXPORT_SYMBOL would be a pain in the ass if the caps lock wasn't in an easy to reach place.
What needs to go is the "Windows" and "Menu" keys. At least move them to another part of the keyboard. It is hard enough to hit the Control and Alt keys with your pinkie, then they made them smaller! They were probably put there because Bill Gates noticed people who use other operating systems have lots of things bound to Ctrl sequences. Commander Stalin^WGates thinks everyone should use the mouse. Yay monopolies. They do us such good.
I'm really important and I'm lonely. So if I call you, will you hand the phone to the nearest hot chick? Preferably one who is a Linux freak and video game robot?
More on the subject of the story (or maybe not) yesterday my kidney doctor told me next month she was going to work once a week so she could see more of her kids. What a coincidence.
Anyway, why not make technocrat.net P2P? I know at least The Circle has a way of filtering out undesireable posts using P2P. There really needs to be a good P2P news system with a good interface (last time I checked, Circle's wasn't that good), filtering system, reasonably popular, and just doesn't suck. At the very least, you could make one really popular, I'm sure.
BTW, I thought you'd have more important things to do than read slashdot.
I find it ironic that you won't send your credit card number by unencrypted email, but your solution is to give it over an unencrypted telephone connection.
I doubt it is any more difficult for someone to eavesdrop on a phone conversation than to capture network packets...
Be careful. You could be arrested. The word "piss" is a naughty word in some contries.
How much does it matter if the info is "out of date"? How much really changes with Linux, Posix and Unix style systems anyway? I don't think Linux has really changed a whole lot in the ten years I've been using it. Maybe iptables and direct rendering were added. The internals of X seem to have changed quite a bit, but configuring doesn't seem to be very different...I just can't think of many places in the howtos which would need updating...
Those aren't trolls and that isn't BS. Maybe you haven't seen that behavoir, but I have. The Linux newsgroups on Usenet a few years ago were exactly like that. People would get pissed of because someone asked a question which none of them knew the answer. Then they'd be pissed because someone outside their circle answered it.
Specificly the one I remember: some embedded guy asked how to make direct calls to the kernel, so he wouldn't have to include the huge system libraries--libc alone is over 1Mb. They give him long winded reply more or less saying: "why would you want to do that?" in a nasty tone as if to say only an idiot would want to do it. Then some poor bloke answers the guy. From what I understand, they sent a complaint to that guy's ISP. There would be all sorts of crap like that.
I suppose you don't see that on most websites because the complaints would go to the webmaster. The webmaster of a linux site would probably know the correct person to ban or at least they just don't care, so no absurd punisments get dolled out to people who don't deserve them.
Why can't users just run any browser, including those which don't support javascript? I would like to use Dillo, but many websites require javascript, even for things which should not. Why must they do this?
I think the people who help women or female avatars are idiots who deserve to be pummeled into the ground. They're perpetuating the system of fake prostitution. Why should a woman be given gifts just because she is a woman?
Not only that, even after they find out the person running it is a guy, they still give stuff to him. WTF???
I know people modded that funny, but that isn't a bad idea. However, since the poster mentioned Linux, why not set Linux up on a dual boot, disable all internet access on MS Windows, then set up internet access on Linux only. That way, the sister will still be able to run the "holy" Windows programs, but will not easily be able to download and install malware. No XP Professional required.
I don't understand why they wouldn't supply the basic security features in the Home version. In fact, they should have put it in Windows 95. Linux and FreeBSD both had file permissions from the beginning--okay I haven't been using them that long, but I know it was before '95. I wonder why that is...oh yeah, MS doesn't care about their customers, they just want to fleece them.
Apparently someone works for Microsoft.
If you think WGA is bad, wait for Microsoft's DCM. First you won't be able to write any drivers for their OS without thier signature, then who knows how far they'll go. You'll probably have to pay a dollar(US) just to copy a picture you took on your digital camera. Not to mention the activities they will restrict.
Hmmm...doesn't OS X run the FreeBSD userland? I wonder if it is not so different that you might be able to get FreeBSD's Linux Compatibility working. I suppose it is kernel based, but if OS X's kernel can run a FreeBSD userland, then why not Linux Compatibility too? At the very least, the idea should carry across. Maybe there is some project out there which ported it to or does the same thing on the Mac? I'm sure a lot of people would be interested in such a thing...
Not necessarily the same thing, but I found a program called Q emulator which may do what you want...it also emulates the 80x86 processor though, so it may be slow.