And you're trying to bullshit me by saying I'm giving you a choice. I'm not giving you any choice, and I'm not denying you any choice either. What I'm saying is that we can't live on 100% organic.
Please tell me where in my posts I defend that we should go 100% organic.
Analogies to harnessing zero point energy come to mind; it's just not going to happen. We also can't live on 0% GMO either; if we end that, then countries which have ended famine in recent decades will have to go back to famine. That is a fact.
It's a fact just because you say it. I love the smell of unsubstantiated facts in the morning.
We've already outgrown what the planet's resources are capable of giving us. That doesn't mean we have to shrink or even stop growing, it just means we have to adapt. GMO is part of that adaptation.
Leaving our food safety in the hands of patent-holding capitalist corporations is the way to go? Creating artificial scarcity by means of IP?
Looking at your post history, you're quite an asshole to everybody you talk to. There are many categories of assholes, and I can already tell that you're in the grade A category. You also seem to think that you have all of life's problems already sorted out, and that everybody simply needs to place their nose in your ass to reach paradise. I'm going to tell you right now though that you're quite wrong, and in fact people following you is a surefire way for their lives to become shitty.
This has nothing to do with the argument, but OK, I'll admit I have a temper. I should be more moderated. But at least I'm straightforward. In your first reply you jump to the conclusion that I "perceive GMO as witchcraft", which is quite insulting. Unlike me, you're all Mr. Nice Guy, but in the end, you are simply an asshole in a subtler way.
You also seem to consider Europe to be "the rest of the world" and yet also somehow better than the rest of the world. Typical self centered asshole. Next time you start a world war I'll make sure the occupiers say hello.
That's quite incorrect. While I believe Europe is the best place to live in, it has many problems. You probably haven't read my comments harshly criticising EU politics. And you probably also haven't read my arguments with some people here that bash Americans, Chinese, Arabs or Africans simply out of ignorance.
Also, your statement about food just being improperly distributed is only a result of the green revolution. Without it, and without GMO foods, there simply aren't enough resources available to feed the whole world on organic food. It's just not going to happen. You can thank companies like Monsanto for that one, but instead you want them burned at the stake for what you perceive as witchcraft.
You're trying to bullshit me using a false choice: Between GMO and 100% organic. Good luck with that. Do your rhetoric fallacies work with your friends?
I don't see why Monsanto is in this. GMO is a good thing; it currently plays a major role in the green revolution that is quite literally ending world hunger.
Are you a shill? You sure sound like one. The world already produces enough food for everyone, it simply isn't properly distributed. That "world hunger" jingle is cynical bullshit.
Actually, you're right. Human rights violations happen every day in a secret prison in Cuba. Prisoners are kept there indefinitely with no due process and are regularly tortured. What an atrocity!
You've probably heard about the place. It's called Guantanamo.
I don't have 100k for a car. A € 20k car is perfectly good for me. I wouldn't call it "shit" because it does the job.
Not everyone lives in an ivory tower, you know? Most people are normal, and drive normal cars. If that doesn't fit you, and you don't have 100k, simply walk or take the bus.
Things like mandatory rear view cameras for people who are too lazy to look in the rear view mirror they already have are an example of technology that isn't really helping anything.
Rear-view mirrors were invented because stupid people are too lazy to turn their heads back and stick them out the window.
Those stupid people are too lazy to crank up their cars. That's why engineers invented the starter, that useless piece of shit.
And what did they invent clutches for? People are too lazy to engage gears with perfect timing, that's why.
Those pesky safety belts were invented because people are too lazy to get a grip when an accident happens. Those idiots.
Honestly, that's the best argument you can come up with? That people are lazy? I hear arguments like that sometimes, like "automatic gearboxes are for lazy people, blah blah, blah". Let me give you a clue: The vast majority of cars are not racing toys, and the vast majority of people don't have, nor want, the skills of a race driver. A car is a tool, it serves the purpose of carrying you, your stuff and your family, and the easier and safer it is to use, the better. The less skills it demands on the driver, the better. It keeps us all safer that way.
I don't know how it is in the US, but here in Europe cars have been steadily getting safer, more reliable, less polluting and more fuel-efficient. A part of that is due to regulations, another part is demand-driven.
Of course, all this evolution makes cars less simple, that's true. But it hasn't increased prices. If anything, they've been coming down. It's hard to compare because of the huge diversity, but now you can buy say, a Dacia, which is an OK car for 2/3 of an equivalent in more prestigious brands. And it comes with all the safety components the other cars have.
Why are you Americans whining all the time? You used to be the pioneers, now you're the naysayers of the world.
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Every time the US looks bad compared to some other country in any indicator, the same excuse comes up. Care to back your claims, please?
Yeah, France desperately needs people working 14 hour days. That will end unemployment pretty soon.
Can't wait for the great marijuana death wave that's coming, I take it?
Me too. I'm so tired of those marijuana junkies robbing people to feed their addiction...
It would be great it if your excuses were backed by real data and not allegations. Care to show your sources, please?
And you're trying to bullshit me by saying I'm giving you a choice. I'm not giving you any choice, and I'm not denying you any choice either. What I'm saying is that we can't live on 100% organic.
Please tell me where in my posts I defend that we should go 100% organic.
Analogies to harnessing zero point energy come to mind; it's just not going to happen. We also can't live on 0% GMO either; if we end that, then countries which have ended famine in recent decades will have to go back to famine. That is a fact.
It's a fact just because you say it. I love the smell of unsubstantiated facts in the morning.
We've already outgrown what the planet's resources are capable of giving us. That doesn't mean we have to shrink or even stop growing, it just means we have to adapt. GMO is part of that adaptation.
Leaving our food safety in the hands of patent-holding capitalist corporations is the way to go? Creating artificial scarcity by means of IP?
Looking at your post history, you're quite an asshole to everybody you talk to. There are many categories of assholes, and I can already tell that you're in the grade A category. You also seem to think that you have all of life's problems already sorted out, and that everybody simply needs to place their nose in your ass to reach paradise. I'm going to tell you right now though that you're quite wrong, and in fact people following you is a surefire way for their lives to become shitty.
This has nothing to do with the argument, but OK, I'll admit I have a temper. I should be more moderated. But at least I'm straightforward. In your first reply you jump to the conclusion that I "perceive GMO as witchcraft", which is quite insulting. Unlike me, you're all Mr. Nice Guy, but in the end, you are simply an asshole in a subtler way.
You also seem to consider Europe to be "the rest of the world" and yet also somehow better than the rest of the world. Typical self centered asshole. Next time you start a world war I'll make sure the occupiers say hello.
That's quite incorrect. While I believe Europe is the best place to live in, it has many problems. You probably haven't read my comments harshly criticising EU politics. And you probably also haven't read my arguments with some people here that bash Americans, Chinese, Arabs or Africans simply out of ignorance.
Also, your statement about food just being improperly distributed is only a result of the green revolution. Without it, and without GMO foods, there simply aren't enough resources available to feed the whole world on organic food. It's just not going to happen. You can thank companies like Monsanto for that one, but instead you want them burned at the stake for what you perceive as witchcraft.
You're trying to bullshit me using a false choice: Between GMO and 100% organic. Good luck with that. Do your rhetoric fallacies work with your friends?
My argument is in my comment.
At least beer has an active principle.
Yeah, because uninformed people being fooled by quacks has resulted so well in the past... for the quacks, of course!
Well, they are prone to irrational behaviours, why not that one too?
I don't see why Monsanto is in this. GMO is a good thing; it currently plays a major role in the green revolution that is quite literally ending world hunger.
Are you a shill? You sure sound like one. The world already produces enough food for everyone, it simply isn't properly distributed. That "world hunger" jingle is cynical bullshit.
Do anthropologists actually know anything?
They do, but not about you.
As someone living in that funny place called "the rest of the world" I say GET YOUR FUCKING SPYING JOB AND SHOVE IT UP YOUR FUCKING ASS.
A few billion people agree with me. They say hello.
I can't parse your rant. What the fuck are you talking about?
Actually, you're right. Human rights violations happen every day in a secret prison in Cuba. Prisoners are kept there indefinitely with no due process and are regularly tortured. What an atrocity!
You've probably heard about the place. It's called Guantanamo.
I don't have 100k for a car. A € 20k car is perfectly good for me. I wouldn't call it "shit" because it does the job.
Not everyone lives in an ivory tower, you know? Most people are normal, and drive normal cars. If that doesn't fit you, and you don't have 100k, simply walk or take the bus.
So, atrocities are OK as long as they are US-sponsored, right?
I'm pretty sure the summary has editing errors, too. What kind of a ridiculous summary is that? What the fuck is Slashdot becoming?
So, your point is that the Americans you met outside of the US have travelled to other countries?
Who would imagine?
It's not like they aren't publicly known for a lot of the atrocities Castro accuses them of.
Stop buying shit cars. There are many alternatives, you know?
Things like mandatory rear view cameras for people who are too lazy to look in the rear view mirror they already have are an example of technology that isn't really helping anything.
Rear-view mirrors were invented because stupid people are too lazy to turn their heads back and stick them out the window.
Those stupid people are too lazy to crank up their cars. That's why engineers invented the starter, that useless piece of shit.
And what did they invent clutches for? People are too lazy to engage gears with perfect timing, that's why.
Those pesky safety belts were invented because people are too lazy to get a grip when an accident happens. Those idiots.
Honestly, that's the best argument you can come up with? That people are lazy? I hear arguments like that sometimes, like "automatic gearboxes are for lazy people, blah blah, blah". Let me give you a clue: The vast majority of cars are not racing toys, and the vast majority of people don't have, nor want, the skills of a race driver. A car is a tool, it serves the purpose of carrying you, your stuff and your family, and the easier and safer it is to use, the better. The less skills it demands on the driver, the better. It keeps us all safer that way.
I don't know how it is in the US, but here in Europe cars have been steadily getting safer, more reliable, less polluting and more fuel-efficient. A part of that is due to regulations, another part is demand-driven.
Of course, all this evolution makes cars less simple, that's true. But it hasn't increased prices. If anything, they've been coming down. It's hard to compare because of the huge diversity, but now you can buy say, a Dacia, which is an OK car for 2/3 of an equivalent in more prestigious brands. And it comes with all the safety components the other cars have.
Why are you Americans whining all the time? You used to be the pioneers, now you're the naysayers of the world.
Or the rate of shootings that go up in cities where guns are banned.
Chicago has the strictest gun laws on the planet and they are the murder capitol of the world.
Utter bullshit.
World cities by murder rate
U.S. cities my murder rate
Gun control state by state.
Even in the most restrictive of your states (California) the gun laws are laxer than in most of the developed world.
Lets get reasonable. It will overheat and catch fire. Often burning down the residence of the crook, or the poor sap that he sold it too.
Poor sap??? Anyone who buys stolen stuff deserves, at the very least, a month-long diarrhea.