You know what? You're right. I seem to have gotten that mistaken impression at some point in my life. Consider the claim completely retracted. We're all doomed(except the higher participation mitigation)
Logic isn't hard. Proofs can be hard to devise, but logic itself isn't complicated to follow.
Real philosophy(with prepositional logic) should be something we're teaching before we get to unnecessarily specific esoterica like solving systems of equations.
What about the things that underlie the scientific method, like mathematics, philosophy of truth(as opposed to other venues like morality or meaning), and logic?
Not that I disagree that science has accomplished wonders, just that it's built on things that can be argued to be more important since science wouldn't be possible without them.
Right, you seem to be of the mistaken impression that people are getting less educated or something. Drop out rates have lowered across those 40 years, while test scores have mostly gone up.
You've only been "failed" inasmuch as other first world nations have been doing it better.
A lot of fuss is made about how creationists aren't hurting anyone by teaching creationism in schools. At least a lot of fuss by creationists.
But to knock "how science actually works" off the curriculum in order to make creationism slightly more viable as a meme, knocks a very important and practical tool out of childrens' toolbox for learning about the world.
I'd go as far as saying learning about the scientific method is equally or more important that learning how to write papers expressing your opinions, or solving equations, or how congress works, as far as parity to other common subjects goes.
This is sabotaging a lot of children's' education in a big way for a miniscule victory in the culture wars. This is why creationists need to be far from policy maker positions.
You know, honestly, the piles of mindless hate you get for a relatively benign opinion and posting news stories in support of that benign opinion tends to make me more, and not less, sympathetic to your positions.
I won't reject your claims of bias out of hand(and benefit of the doubt is pretty much entirely what deniers rely on for everything so my patience is a little limited.
This isn't "Watts up with that" where there's a financial payment for having the right opinions. These are scientists with appropriate credentials discussing common misinformation.
If there is a bias, there must A: be an undisclosed or clearly concerning motivation or B: some kind of oversight problems.
I don't mind discussing bias, but I want it to be more than "It calls my out my flawed opinions".
I mean, a couple hours isn't the worst TWC has ever done. Not even in the past year. This is just a wide problem. No one even bothers to note 12 hour fuckups on a regional scale.
But what's better than describing the project's purpose as "free software media hosting platform". That makes sense to me, and it's the first I've heard of it.
The difference between what you wrote and what the summary said: "their free software media hosting platform" is that you give some examples. I don't think that justifies a title of "because the summary won't tell you".
For once, the summary actually includes a clear description of the open source product that was updated, it's a "free software media hosting platform".
And if you can't guess at the primary functions from that description, they also helpfully link the product's home page for more information.
I bitch about these sorts of summaries all the time, but this one is practically the gold standard for doing it right.
"Slave" is a hard term to use. It evokes American chattel slavery, where on person owns another, and we're more likely talking about agricultural workers(peasants) who didn't have work to do during the floods of the nile.
In ancient Egypt, the food reserves were controlled by the temples and thus by priests and other upper class members of society.
So there was a socially powerless labor class, and a means to control them. Certainly they also had force, but it wasn't the "main" means of control. The line between "peasant" and "slave" in ancient societies is a vague one.
Oh, no, we have more than enough historical evidence to know that Khufu was an absolute asshole to his people. At least a couple different almost contemporary historians wrote about it. That Khufu was a vile tyrant isn't something that has a lot of denial.
And you're engaged in an intellectual fabrication.
I don't believe it to be purposeful, but you're definitely conflating organizations, events, legal legitimacy, and a host of other things in a way that I can't take seriously. I'm sorry.
But you clearly seem to think that saying something about the NSA's activities provides a provable logical extrapolation to this law, in a way that makes far too many leaps to be anything but nuttery. This does fit with the magical thinking I described. Forgive me for putting words in your mouth, but it's the same logic.
Look, search, followed closely by email, is clearly the most powerful way to data-mine you.
The applications you run are almost useless noise in comparison to your interests and correspondence. I don't doubt that they'd monitor it, but the cash-money here comes from getting people to buy chromebooks. Even if those, in turn, are about spying on you by getting you to use google search and gmail.
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I mean... they're just white and a little self-shadowed.
Counterpoint: civilization existed prior to the rule of law. It was just less pleasant for the non-elites.
You know what? You're right. I seem to have gotten that mistaken impression at some point in my life. Consider the claim completely retracted. We're all doomed(except the higher participation mitigation)
Ah, but that's not hard to see the cause of.
College enrollments are up. More people are going further in their education.
Logic isn't hard. Proofs can be hard to devise, but logic itself isn't complicated to follow.
Real philosophy(with prepositional logic) should be something we're teaching before we get to unnecessarily specific esoterica like solving systems of equations.
Bullshit. Ask the College Board. They've had to raise SAT difficulty for decades due to increasing standards.
What about the things that underlie the scientific method, like mathematics, philosophy of truth(as opposed to other venues like morality or meaning), and logic?
Not that I disagree that science has accomplished wonders, just that it's built on things that can be argued to be more important since science wouldn't be possible without them.
Right, you seem to be of the mistaken impression that people are getting less educated or something. Drop out rates have lowered across those 40 years, while test scores have mostly gone up.
You've only been "failed" inasmuch as other first world nations have been doing it better.
A lot of fuss is made about how creationists aren't hurting anyone by teaching creationism in schools. At least a lot of fuss by creationists.
But to knock "how science actually works" off the curriculum in order to make creationism slightly more viable as a meme, knocks a very important and practical tool out of childrens' toolbox for learning about the world.
I'd go as far as saying learning about the scientific method is equally or more important that learning how to write papers expressing your opinions, or solving equations, or how congress works, as far as parity to other common subjects goes.
This is sabotaging a lot of children's' education in a big way for a miniscule victory in the culture wars. This is why creationists need to be far from policy maker positions.
You know, honestly, the piles of mindless hate you get for a relatively benign opinion and posting news stories in support of that benign opinion tends to make me more, and not less, sympathetic to your positions.
What thought proccesses could have led to this post?
"Hey my conspiracy theories don't have enough conspiracy in them yet, why don't I make deniers look even crazier?"
It's "leaked" because it's still under review prior to publication.
Please characterize the bias.
I won't reject your claims of bias out of hand(and benefit of the doubt is pretty much entirely what deniers rely on for everything so my patience is a little limited.
This isn't "Watts up with that" where there's a financial payment for having the right opinions. These are scientists with appropriate credentials discussing common misinformation.
If there is a bias, there must A: be an undisclosed or clearly concerning motivation or B: some kind of oversight problems.
I don't mind discussing bias, but I want it to be more than "It calls my out my flawed opinions".
Try calling their cancellation lines after an unannounced rate hike(like I was even using the TV cable, and I'd want to pay more for it).
I mean, a couple hours isn't the worst TWC has ever done. Not even in the past year. This is just a wide problem. No one even bothers to note 12 hour fuckups on a regional scale.
I was just trying to say that being clear helps.
If it helps, Marx would agree with you.
But what's better than describing the project's purpose as "free software media hosting platform". That makes sense to me, and it's the first I've heard of it.
The difference between what you wrote and what the summary said: "their free software media hosting platform" is that you give some examples. I don't think that justifies a title of "because the summary won't tell you".
For once, the summary actually includes a clear description of the open source product that was updated, it's a "free software media hosting platform".
And if you can't guess at the primary functions from that description, they also helpfully link the product's home page for more information.
I bitch about these sorts of summaries all the time, but this one is practically the gold standard for doing it right.
Metaphorical language not your strong suit? That's okay.
Attacking someone on the basis of your own misunderstanding? Kinda dickish.
Yeah, I mean Herodotus is biased, but his isn't the only account that suggests that.
Regarding slave labor:
"Slave" is a hard term to use. It evokes American chattel slavery, where on person owns another, and we're more likely talking about agricultural workers(peasants) who didn't have work to do during the floods of the nile.
In ancient Egypt, the food reserves were controlled by the temples and thus by priests and other upper class members of society.
So there was a socially powerless labor class, and a means to control them. Certainly they also had force, but it wasn't the "main" means of control. The line between "peasant" and "slave" in ancient societies is a vague one.
Oh, no, we have more than enough historical evidence to know that Khufu was an absolute asshole to his people. At least a couple different almost contemporary historians wrote about it. That Khufu was a vile tyrant isn't something that has a lot of denial.
I think it's just that people love to go "If I didn't have modern tools, I could do that. Here's how:"
And you're engaged in an intellectual fabrication.
I don't believe it to be purposeful, but you're definitely conflating organizations, events, legal legitimacy, and a host of other things in a way that I can't take seriously. I'm sorry.
But you clearly seem to think that saying something about the NSA's activities provides a provable logical extrapolation to this law, in a way that makes far too many leaps to be anything but nuttery. This does fit with the magical thinking I described. Forgive me for putting words in your mouth, but it's the same logic.
Look, search, followed closely by email, is clearly the most powerful way to data-mine you.
The applications you run are almost useless noise in comparison to your interests and correspondence. I don't doubt that they'd monitor it, but the cash-money here comes from getting people to buy chromebooks. Even if those, in turn, are about spying on you by getting you to use google search and gmail.