You ever been suicidal? You have strong opinions and you make some good points, but I dn't know if you're grasping the suicide part. The facts are this: He is dead, he wrote a note saying he couldn't face the consequences. He had other problems of course - we all do, myself included - he just needed something big to push him over the edge. Look hard enough and you'll find something in your life that could put you in the same circumstances.
Goddamn.
6 years ago, when I got the shit beaten out of me by three bullies, (the usual - one guy throwing punches, two guys giving him various support to the effect of kicking me when I got knocked down, tripping me, etc) got me 10 days in school suspension and 2 of the three guys who were beating me up got off scott free while the other was suspended in school 1 day.
just goes to show... schools REALLY don't know how to handle discipline. It's not just the geek stuff - it's all of it. Submitting to mob instinct is only part of it.
Ncurses is really great.
It's remarkably easy to use, lets you update
portions of the screen, gives you more direct
access to the keyboard, has been fixed to let
you use STL in your curses apps (hooray!)
There are a few tutorials out there... if you're just looking for a quick view of how ncurses looks, grab "nmix" (a simple ncurses based sound card mixer) from freshmeat... the source is nice and small and demonstrates how simple it is.
As for tutorials/books...
http://www.cscene.org/CS3/CS3-08.html
http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/curses/index.html http://dickey.his.com/ncurses/ncurses.faq.html
Those should help set you on your way.
Pardon my disrespect, but Moore's law
seems to be more of a tool than anything
else these days... I think that perhaps we're
more capable of a year. Then again, what
would I know, I'm just a frustrated consumer.
You guys remember how long ago the P3 1Ghz came
out?
Dearly loved among OLD theoretical computer scientists. Among students, hated. Perhaps the days of lisp, scheme, etc are finally over. I really hope so. People are better equipped to deal with implimentation these days. Consider the lack of experience among the people who created lisp, and you begin to see the why's of languages like C.
lisp was great. now, lisp is not so great. Move on.
you know, if someone did something to "encode" that little perl script, so it ended in say, pig latin, then it wouldn't be functional code anymore, no?
Then, add a script up at the top of the page, mark it "DMCA Violating PLCPS (Pig Latin Copy Protection Scheme) Script", that nicks off the last two characters... and technically, haven't you protected yourself? Because the only DMCA violation is in fact the De-PLCPS script, no? That other thing is protected under a copy-protection scheme and isn't even usable, therefor, what's there to complain about? Sure, I'm sure the owners of De-PLCPS might take offense to your violation of the DMCA, but then again, that would be THEIR problem, not the DVD-CCA's, no?
That's exactly it. Commercial software, centralized software, will always be a burden on the consumer; we will always want to think that we are entitled to use the software. Then one day, new management steps in and suddenly Windows only runs on Micro$oft's dos.
This is why people need to move to OpenNap and Gnutella, because these are safe. Free software is a right, because it's OUR software. So shut your trap and get on OpenNap and Gnutella, and watch the RIAA try to stop you.
There was a time when I considered programming an art, because I was told that it was so. I wrestled with that for several years, and saw little or no art in my code, maybe the roots thereof, but nothing more.
I came to realize, incorrectly, that it was not an art. I thought then, that it was simply a matter of managing complexity, designing clean interfaces, paint-by-number. In this time, I learned a lot, and I shifted from traditional C to the C++ end of things.
And there I stayed, until one day I saw something.
I saw that there was something fundamentally wrong in the gung-ho object oriented approach to things. I came to see again the power and complexity that can rise from classic C, and I also saw that C++-style coding had its own major advantages. Except I saw this on an abstract level, and I saw that I had a distinctive style. I played with that idea for months, and came to realize again that there is art in coding: and while some may insist that it is purely about expression of ideas, I see now that it is working within the confines of the language, recognizing the faults in your tendencies, and understanding your own growth.
For me, the art is not in the expression. The urge to create, though sated, is not the root of my art.
For me, it progresses from change. I learn, and I write... the conversion is almost rote, though by no means skill-less or artless; for me, the greater art is the growth that I experience, the change that programming effects within me. It may seem odd to some, that coding can be more about a personal metamorphosis than a transcription of an idea to a program, but I expect that I am far from alone in this.
Is this the true art and beauty in programming? I don't know, nor do I care. In the progression, we grow, and in growth, more becomes evident.
So write your code, and write it well. Don't be disillusioned if you don't see something of it yet, those of you just beginning, and those of you who do, I envy your different perceptions.
One day, I will find myself.
Okay. Child pornography is banned for several reasons. First off, it's taking advantage of these children, and that's almost as bad as the fact that people get off on it. Child pornography bans = GOOD THING
Virtual child pornography? I don't think this should even be touched with a 10-foot pole on steroids. If Jim-Wannabe-Pedofile decides he'd rather draw 3d models of people of childlike proportions doing sexual sh*t, than go out there and collect child porn, then fine. If the sicko decides to post it, hate to break it to you, that's art. it's creator may be a little f-ed in the head, but it's still the object of his effort and inspiration. Same applies to anime.
As for fakes of underage actors, technically, I don't think that's child porn. disguisting as it is, that's a 30-year old big-titted lady or big-dicked guy who's wearing someone elses face or body.
Screw banning virtual child porn... it's too hard to define and more good could be done destroying the *real* stuff.
And no, I don't view child porn. Never have, never will. And I think I'd probably not be cool associating someone who did.
>Have you seen a DeCSS based DVD player for Linux yet? I sure haven't head of one...
Obviously, you haven't looked hard enough.
http://www.livid.org didn't disappear, it just moved to http://www.linuxvideo.org/
CVS only at the moment, but it is usually mostly working; I suggest you give it a try.
Don't bother if you've got 2.4.0-test4 through test9 though as far as I can tell haven't heard of anyone who's got the css-auth working on those kernels. Then again, if people would *RESPOND* on IRC I would be a little more sure of that...
>You can fight open source, which is why we have to learn to fight back
that's actually what I meant;
You can't fight open source, because if it's open sourced, and is good, and there is community interest, the Open Source Community won't give a flying fsck what these bastards say; development will continue (though I must admit I have no idea how few people have expertise in the field of audio compression). Patent suits over good technologies provide interest; look at DMCA and DeCSS. Same will go for.ogg... and, besides, Fraunhoffer may not actually be willing to risk a court case until it's actually losing money: can you imagine how incredibly bad it would be for these guys if their patents were declared bullsh*t? If nothing else, it'll go underground; and inside 3 years I'd say, everything will be high-bitrate ogg, and mp3 will be something you use for portable players.
One way or another, I think Ogg is the way to go, and I think those moneygrubbing sob's will be forced to retire into mediocrity.
A court case may delay widescale release of vorbis compliant products, but only for a short while.
The source will demonstrate to those Froenhoffer (or however the hell you spell it) bastards that their time is ending.
You can't fight open source.
Mark Neidengard (or Niedengard, maybe?) from Caltech (was an undergrad... he's now at Cornell) has an analysis on his page... it seems to jump around, but it's worth a look. Anyhow, good thought nonetheless.
Oh come on... drop the conspiracy theory routine. The RIAA is just trying to protect their profits. Granted, I don't agree with 'em... but do we really need to read this far into this stuff??
Yes, OJ may have been acquited, and that's the breaks, if he did do it. The alternative to people getting off every now and then is even more people who didn't commit any crimes being sent to prison. Take a look at Japan. 99% conviction rates? While there isn't much crime and I'm sure their law enforcement is much more efficient than it is here, that number still looks a bit freaky. I suppose what I'm saying, is would you rather feel safe from crimals who might steal your stuff or would you rather feel safe from the government imprisoning you on the off chance you might have committed a crime? That comment has little bearing here. Whether or not OJ comitted the murders was *not* left up to you to decide, it was left to a theoretically unbiased jury, with the stipulation that OJ was to be presumed innocent until *proven* guilty. They were obviously not convinced, so he got off. This is the cost of a justice system which is supposedly there for the people. The ironic thing is that this same respect for civil rights doesn't apply to people like Mitnick...
So the big red wavy box decides to buy off SGI? WHAT THE HELL!!! How messed up can the world get? Last time I heard of these guys, they stood for "Truly Enigmatic Rusty Artifact"
I may not know about whether or not lives will be saved due to overzealous use of pepper spray, but I am aware that there have been a nontrivial amount of deaths due to use of pepper spray by riot control.
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You ever been suicidal? You have strong opinions and you make some good points, but I dn't know if you're grasping the suicide part. The facts are this: He is dead, he wrote a note saying he couldn't face the consequences. He had other problems of course - we all do, myself included - he just needed something big to push him over the edge. Look hard enough and you'll find something in your life that could put you in the same circumstances.
Goddamn.
6 years ago, when I got the shit beaten out of me by three bullies, (the usual - one guy throwing punches, two guys giving him various support to the effect of kicking me when I got knocked down, tripping me, etc) got me 10 days in school suspension and 2 of the three guys who were beating me up got off scott free while the other was suspended in school 1 day.
just goes to show... schools REALLY don't know how to handle discipline. It's not just the geek stuff - it's all of it. Submitting to mob instinct is only part of it.
Pardon me for saying so, but that straw
seems to be made of NEUTRON STAR.
I guess the DMCA makes it illegal to have
competing databases?
Grow up, CDDB people.
Ncurses is really great.l
It's remarkably easy to use, lets you update
portions of the screen, gives you more direct
access to the keyboard, has been fixed to let
you use STL in your curses apps (hooray!)
There are a few tutorials out there... if you're just looking for a quick view of how ncurses looks, grab "nmix" (a simple ncurses based sound card mixer) from freshmeat... the source is nice and small and demonstrates how simple it is.
As for tutorials/books...
http://www.cscene.org/CS3/CS3-08.html
http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/curses/index.htm
http://dickey.his.com/ncurses/ncurses.faq.html
Those should help set you on your way.
Now if only someone would make an AAlib Xserver.
Pardon my disrespect, but Moore's law
seems to be more of a tool than anything
else these days... I think that perhaps we're
more capable of a year. Then again, what
would I know, I'm just a frustrated consumer.
You guys remember how long ago the P3 1Ghz came
out?
Dearly loved among OLD theoretical computer scientists. Among students, hated. Perhaps the days of lisp, scheme, etc are finally over. I really hope so. People are better equipped to deal with implimentation these days. Consider the lack of experience among the people who created lisp, and you begin to see the why's of languages like C.
lisp was great. now, lisp is not so great. Move on.
My goodness, you're right. Thanks for pointing it out. Well, Gnutella's the way to go then, I'll switch my advocacy to STRAIGHT_GNUTELLA!
I vote at-robots asm!
you know, if someone did something to "encode" that little perl script, so it ended in say, pig latin, then it wouldn't be functional code anymore, no?
Then, add a script up at the top of the page, mark it "DMCA Violating PLCPS (Pig Latin Copy Protection Scheme) Script", that nicks off the last two characters... and technically, haven't you protected yourself? Because the only DMCA violation is in fact the De-PLCPS script, no? That other thing is protected under a copy-protection scheme and isn't even usable, therefor, what's there to complain about? Sure, I'm sure the owners of De-PLCPS might take offense to your violation of the DMCA, but then again, that would be THEIR problem, not the DVD-CCA's, no?
I was under the impression that dd tended to work pretty well in that respect?
That's exactly it. Commercial software, centralized software, will always be a burden on the consumer; we will always want to think that we are entitled to use the software. Then one day, new management steps in and suddenly Windows only runs on Micro$oft's dos.
This is why people need to move to OpenNap and Gnutella, because these are safe. Free software is a right, because it's OUR software. So shut your trap and get on OpenNap and Gnutella, and watch the RIAA try to stop you.
There was a time when I considered programming an art, because I was told that it was so. I wrestled with that for several years, and saw little or no art in my code, maybe the roots thereof, but nothing more. I came to realize, incorrectly, that it was not an art. I thought then, that it was simply a matter of managing complexity, designing clean interfaces, paint-by-number. In this time, I learned a lot, and I shifted from traditional C to the C++ end of things. And there I stayed, until one day I saw something. I saw that there was something fundamentally wrong in the gung-ho object oriented approach to things. I came to see again the power and complexity that can rise from classic C, and I also saw that C++-style coding had its own major advantages. Except I saw this on an abstract level, and I saw that I had a distinctive style. I played with that idea for months, and came to realize again that there is art in coding: and while some may insist that it is purely about expression of ideas, I see now that it is working within the confines of the language, recognizing the faults in your tendencies, and understanding your own growth. For me, the art is not in the expression. The urge to create, though sated, is not the root of my art. For me, it progresses from change. I learn, and I write... the conversion is almost rote, though by no means skill-less or artless; for me, the greater art is the growth that I experience, the change that programming effects within me. It may seem odd to some, that coding can be more about a personal metamorphosis than a transcription of an idea to a program, but I expect that I am far from alone in this. Is this the true art and beauty in programming? I don't know, nor do I care. In the progression, we grow, and in growth, more becomes evident. So write your code, and write it well. Don't be disillusioned if you don't see something of it yet, those of you just beginning, and those of you who do, I envy your different perceptions. One day, I will find myself.
Okay. Child pornography is banned for several reasons. First off, it's taking advantage of these children, and that's almost as bad as the fact that people get off on it. Child pornography bans = GOOD THING Virtual child pornography? I don't think this should even be touched with a 10-foot pole on steroids. If Jim-Wannabe-Pedofile decides he'd rather draw 3d models of people of childlike proportions doing sexual sh*t, than go out there and collect child porn, then fine. If the sicko decides to post it, hate to break it to you, that's art. it's creator may be a little f-ed in the head, but it's still the object of his effort and inspiration. Same applies to anime. As for fakes of underage actors, technically, I don't think that's child porn. disguisting as it is, that's a 30-year old big-titted lady or big-dicked guy who's wearing someone elses face or body. Screw banning virtual child porn... it's too hard to define and more good could be done destroying the *real* stuff. And no, I don't view child porn. Never have, never will. And I think I'd probably not be cool associating someone who did.
>Have you seen a DeCSS based DVD player for Linux yet? I sure haven't head of one...
.ogg... and, besides, Fraunhoffer may not actually be willing to risk a court case until it's actually losing money: can you imagine how incredibly bad it would be for these guys if their patents were declared bullsh*t? If nothing else, it'll go underground; and inside 3 years I'd say, everything will be high-bitrate ogg, and mp3 will be something you use for portable players.
Obviously, you haven't looked hard enough.
http://www.livid.org didn't disappear, it just moved to http://www.linuxvideo.org/
CVS only at the moment, but it is usually mostly working; I suggest you give it a try.
Don't bother if you've got 2.4.0-test4 through test9 though as far as I can tell haven't heard of anyone who's got the css-auth working on those kernels. Then again, if people would *RESPOND* on IRC I would be a little more sure of that...
>You can fight open source, which is why we have to learn to fight back
that's actually what I meant;
You can't fight open source, because if it's open sourced, and is good, and there is community interest, the Open Source Community won't give a flying fsck what these bastards say; development will continue (though I must admit I have no idea how few people have expertise in the field of audio compression). Patent suits over good technologies provide interest; look at DMCA and DeCSS. Same will go for
One way or another, I think Ogg is the way to go, and I think those moneygrubbing sob's will be forced to retire into mediocrity.
A court case may delay widescale release of vorbis compliant products, but only for a short while.
The source will demonstrate to those Froenhoffer (or however the hell you spell it) bastards that their time is ending.
You can't fight open source.
Congrats, Linus! My best wishes for your daughter, and a swift recovery for your wife. And happy days ahead for all of you.
Mark Neidengard (or Niedengard, maybe?) from Caltech (was an undergrad... he's now at Cornell) has an analysis on his page... it seems to jump around, but it's worth a look.
Anyhow, good thought nonetheless.
Oh come on... drop the conspiracy theory routine. The RIAA is just trying to protect their profits. Granted, I don't agree with 'em... but do we really need to read this far into this stuff??
Gould said something similar, i think.
Yes, OJ may have been acquited, and that's the breaks, if he did do it.
The alternative to people getting off every now and then is even more people who didn't commit any crimes being sent to prison.
Take a look at Japan. 99% conviction rates? While there isn't much crime and I'm sure their law enforcement is much more efficient than it is here, that number still looks a bit freaky. I suppose what I'm saying, is would you rather feel safe from crimals who might steal your stuff or would you rather feel safe from the government imprisoning you on the off chance you might have committed a crime?
That comment has little bearing here. Whether or not OJ comitted the murders was *not* left up to you to decide, it was left to a theoretically unbiased jury, with the stipulation that OJ was to be presumed innocent until *proven* guilty. They were obviously not convinced, so he got off.
This is the cost of a justice system which is supposedly there for the people. The ironic thing is that this same respect for civil rights doesn't apply to people like Mitnick...
So the big red wavy box decides to buy off SGI? WHAT THE HELL!!! How messed up can the world get? Last time I heard of these guys, they stood for "Truly Enigmatic Rusty Artifact"
I may not know about whether or not lives will be saved due to overzealous use of pepper spray, but I am aware that there have been a nontrivial amount of deaths due to use of pepper spray by riot control.
Multiply a few extra kb by 150k people and maybe then you'll undrestand that a few minutes saves EVERYONE some time.
I don't know about you, but I've got as many "servers" as desktops in my house.