Heh, yeah right. It never cease to amaze me how people expect rapid technological advancement, when all the historical evidence shows that most of these innovations are decades old, but the equipment wasn't available back then. I saw a photo from the first V2s sent up with a camera yesterday on NASAs site, and that was dated 1948. How long until Google Earth hit the mainstream ? 2005 ? The reason for the delay was computing power, access to images, and satellites. Satellites have changed the world in so many ways, they are part of almost everything we do. TV, telephone, data, science all rely on satellites somewhere in the chain. But in the 1960s they were ground breaking and so that 1969 film could be seen as possibly true. We had no way to determine if a planet really was diametrically opposite us in our orbit of the sun. This is the way it goes, some sci-fi is born out by scientific discoveries, and other stuff is provably impossible. This is why modern sci-fi is mostly dreck, hardly any science is left to the imagination. Back when the best sci-fi was written (due to our ignorance) it was an amazing journey into the possible. Now we're left with existential dilemmas rather than technological ones, which doesn't have the same zing on screen.
Sometimes you have to look at the way it *was*, to better appreciate the way it *is* and I fear that aspect is lacking in todays world. It seems to be all "now" and "next" and disappointment when it doesn't happen immediately. Newsflash - it never did.
Fireworks == me too. Excellent tool. The filesizes are good and preview options as you change the filesize are very useful. AFAIK they were the (or one of the ) first mainstream tool(s) to use PNG format. Pity there's no linux version. On a tangent, Flash was always useful to me when editing video. I could make some good effects and import them into video projects easily. Then they made it more complicated and more web specific.
People used tables because that's all that was there. There were no DIV or SPAN tags, and CSS was still a pipe dream in somebody's bong. It's hard to make the claim that something was wrong from the beginning when what was right didn't exist, but I guess you don't need any real education to make revisionist history.
All very nice if it were true. I remember using Dreamweaver in the late '90s, and it certainly had CSS functionality. Not so much the positioning functionality we expect from CSS today, but cascading style sheet functionality none the less.
Also, I remember creating a demo web page for myself that used layers so that the whole site (such as it was) was loaded up and each link just affected visibility of various divs. That was where I had the biggest issue because Netscape 4 and IE4 needed different code. This was in the late '90s not prehistoric times. I also have a copy of IE 4 on cd which states on the front "Only for distribution with a new PC" (copyright MS 1995-1997) which puts perspective on the current EU issues.
I just looked through some old backup cds, and I have Dreamweaver 1, Fireworks 1 both backed up in early 1998, and numerous other html tools like Ace Expert, CoffeeCup, Xara3D, CorelDraw, a cracked copy of homesite 2 from '96 - as well as fun utilities that could format a floppy as 1.72 MB or resume downloads (getright) !
And BTW, I first started learning html by viewing the source of pages saved locally, then modifying that source to see what changed. Who today could be bothered to start from basics like that ? It would be pretty difficult to divine the purpose of all that CSS markup unless you already had a clue, which makes the net somewhat less democratic IMHO.
One interesting thing that has come to light here, is how much old stuff I have lying around on CD. Most of it is at least 10 years old, and shows sharply the rapid advances in technology that have occurred. I just found drivers for my USR 33.6k modem, which I remember cost me over £150 back in 9x but was damn fast ! I have an external serial modem somewhere (9600) which I may test one day.
Heh, I just found a copy of Webmaster Gold from '96, the System Requirements read as follows: 386 processor or better
4 Meg RAM (8 meg Recommended)
6 Meg Disk Space
Microsoft Compatible Mouse
SVGA Monitor
Microsoft Windows 3.1 or later WebMaster supports HTML 2.0,
HTML 3.0, Netscape extensions, Inline Images, Tables, Bitmap backgrounds. But of course back in Shelbyville after the war, we all wore an onion in our belt, coz that was the fashion back then....
Gotta wonder what percentage of movies watched on PCs with DVD-ROM drives were porn. It's not like there was a lot of PC content available on DVD for the early years of those drives;
Er, I think the key word there is "DVD". Ya know, like the DVD you put in a DVD player...
Can't you just load up on RAM and create a RAM drive for working stuff and keep the slow HDD for shutdown time ? Cheaper than SSD and no write cycle issues. You can also get RAM based IDE and SATA drives.
Population has got to be controlled one way or another, or we will starve ourselves. So if there is only food for so many people, and too many get pregnant, who should volunteer to make room ? The mother, the father or a complete stranger ? The natural choice is to lose the child because a) it will take up more resources while it's growing, and b) it doesn't have the already spent investment. The mother can always have another child (usually), but if an adult has to be removed to pay for a child, then it's not good for the society. Animals spontaneously abort when they're forced to, and while we're not animals (completely) it still makes good survival sense.
What makes me mad is when infertile couples get IVF treatment instead of adopting - that stinks. I would be happy to review abortion rules if couples were forced to adopt an available child, and got IVF only if no child were available.
To be clear, I only support bringing a child into the world if it is going to be properly supported. If not, then don't burden the world and the child with a difficult existence, just to satisfy a principle.
Furthermore, he only really got angry when the church tried to get involved in scientific arguments, where of course they can play no part philosophically. A padre can still be a good scientist, but he can't base theories on his faith. The churches insistence on a significant role triggered his animosity.
It amused me recently when they ran those ads on London buses. "There probably is no God, so stop worrying and get on with your life." One bus driver refused to drive any bus with that on the side, and as he put it - "they wouldn't dare say anything bad about the muslims, so why should we have to put up with it ?" It seems he clearly knows very little about his own religion, if he thinks the muslim god is a different one to his own, so how the hell could he have a valid view on scientific matters ?
Try Mythdora. My card was supported, but the remote was proprietary which made it a pain. That was a year ago, the last builds have added support for my proprietary remote. Nice simple install (except the myth bit).
Perl is for CGI and private scripts separately. I would never give the shell power from the net. But I'm happy to run perl as CGI and bash from 0:1. I never mix the two. But you can pick on PHP if you want to get nasty about it. There is a perlshell available, but you need to know perl to use it properly. That's probably an obstacle to you, so yet another year without the Desktop crown then !
So what ? What does this prove ? I can't believe this has got any air-time. He holds the rights to the music so he can never be held liable for copyright infringement. No story.
I don't even bother with Firefox on Linux anymore. It's dog slow, and clear that the work goes into the Windows version.
Not sure why it's this way, but it's pretty clear the work goes into the Windows version and hardly any goes into the native version.
It's not dog slow, especially when you bear in mind it's not been specially optimized. Also, you obviously have no principles, so expect to be treated the same in future.
Microsoft Windows *, you're welcome to it !
BTW, when you "check linux out again" you will be helpdesk fodder - HTH.
I haven't had any issues yet but then again I'm running Fedora 4.
It looks like a troll, but there are loads of "linux is fine" and "windows is ok if..." comments. Fedora 4 using Xpdf or Gpdf is fine as far as I can tell. But then I don't expect to run a program when I open a document. If you need help just ask, really...
And just to be clear, the free man mentioned in "No free man shall be seized or imprisoned" is not a peasant. Under the feudal system, peasants were the property of the noble landowners, and had no rights. Free men were those who were granted freedom, it was not a natural state of being, granted to you at birth. So the great Magna Carta merely gave more power to private landlords, it didn't grant anybody else inalienable rights. Should we really teach that in schools as something to aspire to ?
But you are wrong. The Magna Carta only applied to Noblemen, not peasants. It was a power grab by rich and titled men over a weak monarch. There was no thought of human rights, only of power to control their own (the noblemen) feudal power and riches. It is not taught as a constitutional document for that very reason. It is a historical account of power struggles in early English history, not an ideal to live by. And I was taught ABOUT it in a state school, but in history not politics or sociology.
From the British Library:
Magna Carta is one of the most celebrated documents in English history but later interpretations have tended to obscure its real significance in 1215. This iconic document was not intended to be a lasting declaration of legal principle. It was a practical solution to a political crisis which primarily served the interests of the highest ranks of feudal society by reasserting the power of custom to limit despotic behaviour by the king.
The majority of the clauses in Magna Carta dealt with the regulation of feudal customs and the operation of the justice system, not with legal theory and rights. It was King John's extortionate exploitation of his feudal rights and his ruthless administration of justice that were at the core of the barons' grievances.
All but three of Magna Carta's clauses have now become obsolete and been repealed, but the flexible way in which the charter has been reinterpreted through the centuries has guaranteed its status and longevity.
Legacy
Only three of the original clauses in Magna Carta are still law. One defends the freedom and rights of the English church, another confirms the liberties and customs of London and other towns, but the third is the most famous:
No free man shall be seized or imprisoned, or stripped of his rights or possessions, or outlawed or exiled . nor will we proceed with force against him . except by the lawful judgement of his equals or by the law of the land. To no one will we sell, to no one deny or delay right or justice.
This statement of principle, buried deep in Magna Carta, was given no particular prominence in 1215, but its intrinsic adaptability has allowed succeeding generations to reinterpret it for their own purposes and this has ensured its longevity. In the fourteenth century Parliament saw it as guaranteeing trial by jury. Sir Edward Coke interpreted it as a declaration of individual liberty in his conflict with the early Stuart kings and it has resonant echoes in the American Bill of Rights and the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.
But the real legacy of Magna Carta as a whole is that it limited the king's authority by establishing the crucial principle that the law was a power in its own right to which the king was subject.
Most people in the UK have *no idea* what is being taken from them. It is all greek to them and regard it all as political squabbling. They can be turned to face any issue according to who is asking and how. The internet is just another form of TV as far as most people are concerned, that is why they don't fight its regulation - after all, the other tv stations are regulated aren't they ? The best quote to bear in mind regarding any political party or commercial concern is this:
Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master. Commissioner Pravin Lal "U.N. Declaration of Rights"
This warning applies both to government and to closed source software vendors. Yet another reason to get government using and promoting open source. It IS our government after all. Too many times these days, people seem to feel that because it's the govt. doing these things, it's out of our control. That is a fatalistic and self-fulfilling attitude.
Sure, many people would line up on the right side when somebody draws an obvious line, but you may have noticed that the powers that be are very careful not to draw that line so as to be obvious. So we drift unconsciously into totalitarianism, never having made a decision. And the real kicker for me is that the general attitude amounts to "oh well, never mind, just get on with it".
Regarding the main story, however, I think there is too much being made of this. If you notice, the document is titled "Coroners and Justice Bill". What does a coroner do ? They deal with dead people, communicable disease, unnatural death, crime and other risks to the public. If this bill is being introduced at all, it must be due to certain pertinent information not being legally available to parties who have a legitimate need for it. You can't hamstring the government and expect them to be able to fulfill their function. Imagine if data protection were applied to the NHS database. Nobody would be able to access your data except your original GP or hospital. Makes the whole thing worthless, when it does have good legitimate uses. Imagine if a "Typhoid Mary" was walking the streets, but couldn't be tracked down to a home address or place of work. You know they have a credit card but data protection makes it illegal for the coroners dept. to access details of where and when that card was used. In the absence of other locating data, you are stuck. But surely in an emergency you must allow some passage of data between relevant parties. So I think this is just about removing criminal liability for those who have a legitimate need to access certain data. And it's not a free for all opening of flood gates, each case has to be approved by a senior government minister. We would do better to focus on what safeguards are to be applied to prevent misuse of this ability.
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Heh, yeah right. It never cease to amaze me how people expect rapid technological advancement, when all the historical evidence shows that most of these innovations are decades old, but the equipment wasn't available back then. I saw a photo from the first V2s sent up with a camera yesterday on NASAs site, and that was dated 1948. How long until Google Earth hit the mainstream ? 2005 ? The reason for the delay was computing power, access to images, and satellites. Satellites have changed the world in so many ways, they are part of almost everything we do. TV, telephone, data, science all rely on satellites somewhere in the chain. But in the 1960s they were ground breaking and so that 1969 film could be seen as possibly true. We had no way to determine if a planet really was diametrically opposite us in our orbit of the sun. This is the way it goes, some sci-fi is born out by scientific discoveries, and other stuff is provably impossible. This is why modern sci-fi is mostly dreck, hardly any science is left to the imagination. Back when the best sci-fi was written (due to our ignorance) it was an amazing journey into the possible. Now we're left with existential dilemmas rather than technological ones, which doesn't have the same zing on screen.
Sometimes you have to look at the way it *was*, to better appreciate the way it *is* and I fear that aspect is lacking in todays world. It seems to be all "now" and "next" and disappointment when it doesn't happen immediately. Newsflash - it never did.
Fireworks == me too. Excellent tool. The filesizes are good and preview options as you change the filesize are very useful. AFAIK they were the (or one of the ) first mainstream tool(s) to use PNG format. Pity there's no linux version. On a tangent, Flash was always useful to me when editing video. I could make some good effects and import them into video projects easily. Then they made it more complicated and more web specific.
All very nice if it were true. I remember using Dreamweaver in the late '90s, and it certainly had CSS functionality. Not so much the positioning functionality we expect from CSS today, but cascading style sheet functionality none the less.
: ....
Also, I remember creating a demo web page for myself that used layers so that the whole site (such as it was) was loaded up and each link just affected visibility of various divs. That was where I had the biggest issue because Netscape 4 and IE4 needed different code. This was in the late '90s not prehistoric times. I also have a copy of IE 4 on cd which states on the front "Only for distribution with a new PC" (copyright MS 1995-1997) which puts perspective on the current EU issues.
I just looked through some old backup cds, and I have Dreamweaver 1, Fireworks 1 both backed up in early 1998, and numerous other html tools like Ace Expert, CoffeeCup, Xara3D, CorelDraw, a cracked copy of homesite 2 from '96 - as well as fun utilities that could format a floppy as 1.72 MB or resume downloads (getright) !
And BTW, I first started learning html by viewing the source of pages saved locally, then modifying that source to see what changed. Who today could be bothered to start from basics like that ? It would be pretty difficult to divine the purpose of all that CSS markup unless you already had a clue, which makes the net somewhat less democratic IMHO.
One interesting thing that has come to light here, is how much old stuff I have lying around on CD. Most of it is at least 10 years old, and shows sharply the rapid advances in technology that have occurred. I just found drivers for my USR 33.6k modem, which I remember cost me over £150 back in 9x but was damn fast ! I have an external serial modem somewhere (9600) which I may test one day.
Heh, I just found a copy of Webmaster Gold from '96, the System Requirements read as follows
386 processor or better
4 Meg RAM (8 meg Recommended)
6 Meg Disk Space
Microsoft Compatible Mouse
SVGA Monitor
Microsoft Windows 3.1 or later
WebMaster supports HTML 2.0, HTML 3.0, Netscape extensions, Inline Images, Tables, Bitmap backgrounds.
But of course back in Shelbyville after the war, we all wore an onion in our belt, coz that was the fashion back then
Er, I think the key word there is "DVD". Ya know, like the DVD you put in a DVD player...
Q. Why did the woman watch the porno all the way to the end ?
A. She wanted to see if they got married !
Can't you just load up on RAM and create a RAM drive for working stuff and keep the slow HDD for shutdown time ? Cheaper than SSD and no write cycle issues. You can also get RAM based IDE and SATA drives.
Who else should die that that child should live ?
Population has got to be controlled one way or another, or we will starve ourselves. So if there is only food for so many people, and too many get pregnant, who should volunteer to make room ? The mother, the father or a complete stranger ? The natural choice is to lose the child because a) it will take up more resources while it's growing, and b) it doesn't have the already spent investment. The mother can always have another child (usually), but if an adult has to be removed to pay for a child, then it's not good for the society. Animals spontaneously abort when they're forced to, and while we're not animals (completely) it still makes good survival sense.
What makes me mad is when infertile couples get IVF treatment instead of adopting - that stinks. I would be happy to review abortion rules if couples were forced to adopt an available child, and got IVF only if no child were available.
To be clear, I only support bringing a child into the world if it is going to be properly supported. If not, then don't burden the world and the child with a difficult existence, just to satisfy a principle.
Furthermore, he only really got angry when the church tried to get involved in scientific arguments, where of course they can play no part philosophically. A padre can still be a good scientist, but he can't base theories on his faith. The churches insistence on a significant role triggered his animosity.
It amused me recently when they ran those ads on London buses. "There probably is no God, so stop worrying and get on with your life." One bus driver refused to drive any bus with that on the side, and as he put it - "they wouldn't dare say anything bad about the muslims, so why should we have to put up with it ?" It seems he clearly knows very little about his own religion, if he thinks the muslim god is a different one to his own, so how the hell could he have a valid view on scientific matters ?
Try Mythdora. My card was supported, but the remote was proprietary which made it a pain. That was a year ago, the last builds have added support for my proprietary remote. Nice simple install (except the myth bit).
:p
(also, buy a tuner card)
Not if you know perl. I don't know C# either, but that doesn't matter for what I'm doing.
So you're calling perl with no arguments, inside another shell ?
Nice.
Perl is for CGI and private scripts separately. I would never give the shell power from the net. But I'm happy to run perl as CGI and bash from 0:1. I never mix the two. But you can pick on PHP if you want to get nasty about it. There is a perl shell available, but you need to know perl to use it properly. That's probably an obstacle to you, so yet another year without the Desktop crown then !
Now count how many comments are specifically about mormons. You just helped. And so did I. Thanks.
So what ? What does this prove ? I can't believe this has got any air-time. He holds the rights to the music so he can never be held liable for copyright infringement. No story.
It's not dog slow, especially when you bear in mind it's not been specially optimized. Also, you obviously have no principles, so expect to be treated the same in future.
Microsoft Windows *, you're welcome to it !
BTW, when you "check linux out again" you will be helpdesk fodder - HTH.
Fuck you, Jimmy !
Please define fazed then.
Is this a windows targeted vulnerability , yet again ?
I would have thought by now, that M$ would have noticed and fixed the issues so as not to be in the news so much. It's only been 15 years!
I haven't had any issues yet but then again I'm running Fedora 4.
..." comments. ...
It looks like a troll, but there are loads of "linux is fine" and "windows is ok if
Fedora 4 using Xpdf or Gpdf is fine as far as I can tell. But then I don't expect to run a program when I open a document. If you need help just ask, really
And when exactly was the last time you did that ? honestly, call a spade a spade !
you seem to want browser manufacturers to pre-guess their users browsing prefs. ! AKAIK, they still show the url of a link in the status bar.
Please tag either linux AND windows OR windows AND 0Sx, or whatever- thanks.
you don't run the universe.
No ads here. Which page did you visit ?
And just to be clear, the free man mentioned in "No free man shall be seized or imprisoned" is not a peasant. Under the feudal system, peasants were the property of the noble landowners, and had no rights. Free men were those who were granted freedom, it was not a natural state of being, granted to you at birth.
So the great Magna Carta merely gave more power to private landlords, it didn't grant anybody else inalienable rights. Should we really teach that in schools as something to aspire to ?
The Magna Carta only applied to Noblemen, not peasants. It was a power grab by rich and titled men over a weak monarch. There was no thought of human rights, only of power to control their own (the noblemen) feudal power and riches.
It is not taught as a constitutional document for that very reason. It is a historical account of power struggles in early English history, not an ideal to live by. And I was taught ABOUT it in a state school, but in history not politics or sociology.
From the British Library
Read and learn.
Most people in the UK have *no idea* what is being taken from them. It is all greek to them and regard it all as political squabbling. They can be turned to face any issue according to who is asking and how. The internet is just another form of TV as far as most people are concerned, that is why they don't fight its regulation - after all, the other tv stations are regulated aren't they ? :
The best quote to bear in mind regarding any political party or commercial concern is this
Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master. Commissioner Pravin Lal "U.N. Declaration of Rights"
This warning applies both to government and to closed source software vendors. Yet another reason to get government using and promoting open source. It IS our government after all. Too many times these days, people seem to feel that because it's the govt. doing these things, it's out of our control. That is a fatalistic and self-fulfilling attitude.
Sure, many people would line up on the right side when somebody draws an obvious line, but you may have noticed that the powers that be are very careful not to draw that line so as to be obvious. So we drift unconsciously into totalitarianism, never having made a decision.
And the real kicker for me is that the general attitude amounts to "oh well, never mind, just get on with it".
Regarding the main story, however, I think there is too much being made of this. If you notice, the document is titled "Coroners and Justice Bill". What does a coroner do ? They deal with dead people, communicable disease, unnatural death, crime and other risks to the public. If this bill is being introduced at all, it must be due to certain pertinent information not being legally available to parties who have a legitimate need for it. You can't hamstring the government and expect them to be able to fulfill their function. Imagine if data protection were applied to the NHS database. Nobody would be able to access your data except your original GP or hospital. Makes the whole thing worthless, when it does have good legitimate uses. Imagine if a "Typhoid Mary" was walking the streets, but couldn't be tracked down to a home address or place of work. You know they have a credit card but data protection makes it illegal for the coroners dept. to access details of where and when that card was used. In the absence of other locating data, you are stuck. But surely in an emergency you must allow some passage of data between relevant parties. So I think this is just about removing criminal liability for those who have a legitimate need to access certain data. And it's not a free for all opening of flood gates, each case has to be approved by a senior government minister. We would do better to focus on what safeguards are to be applied to prevent misuse of this ability.