Whoever modded your post as flamebait needs to get a clue. Its not flamebait, its the truth. If they want people to switch from OE they need to add a single mail tree. Period. I am another one that won't switch until they do.
Another thing that annoys me, not quite enough to keep me from using it if they do the local mail tree thing, is the assuming of outgoing mail server. It assumes on every account you add after the first that it will use the first's outgoing mail server. That is NOT something that should be assumed, it should be a selectable OPTION with the ability to add a new outgoing mailserver for that account.
I'll probably get modded as flamebait as well, but to me this new version did absolutely nothing. Yeah I'm sure they fixed bugs and tweaked it a bit, but I don't see how that little bit of stuff warranted a new version.
I run RH9 on a box I mostly use for local services (web server,seti, ect.) and I have no intentions of moving to Fedora. If at some time I decide to move away from RH9, I will probably go to another distro altogether. Debian or Slackware I suppose.
This news post understated the price increase just like a Hard|OCP one a few days ago. I too bought some RAM at newegg at a pretty good price, and that was only about a month and a half ago. I got 512MB of Crucial PC-3200 for $85, and now its priced at $120. Guess I'll be putting off adding another stick to utilize dual channel for a while.
I know others have said it, but really, if people don't like it they don't have to use it. Nobody is being forced in the least. There are plenty of other free email providers.
The big comeback to that so far has been, "but what if I have to send an email to someone on GMail". You can't pick the phone service provider for a person you call, just like you can't pick a person's email provider for them. If you are that paranoid and whatever you are sending needs to be soooo private, then I doubt you'll want to be sending to a free email address of any kind anyway. I swear, some people just bitch to hear themsevles bitch.
I own a few domains and I never put the right phone number in. I also have an email address strictly set aside for domains only - which catches TONS of spam, and I tend to catch a little bit of snail mail spam as well - usually from the same company that tries to trick people into switching to them and paying $25+ a year.
I hate the way that whois info is public though, and you have to pay (usually more than the price of the domain where I register domains) to make it private. It should be automatically private, at no cost. Someone above mentioned something about the reason that is there is for complaints and such - well I just happen to have an idea that could fix that problem easily. Make any complaints or inquiries go through the registrar. Kind of like a registrar private messaging system. It might seem like a lot, but I think it is little to ask to help stop the whois info harvesting and millions of spam emails that get sent as a result of it. ICANN already has a ton of requirements that registrars have to meet, why not one more.
Oddly enough, yesterday I saw a flash side-bar ad with Bush's face on it and asking "Should Bush be reelected". I don't think it was a campaign ad, but still, his picture was quite disturbing.
"For me though, the simple options menu _is_ enough of a reason to use it over regular Mozilla. Regular Mozilla's option menu is worse than IE's, IMO."
One reason is enough for me. I don't need any more reasons. How many times do I have to say that? Why you are on this jihad against Firefox, I can't figure out. You don't have to even LOOK at it, so why don't you keep your troll comments to yourself next time? You're obviously the only one here that is pissed off (once again, about what I cannot figure out). Bye - I'm going to go get some fresh air, something you should seriously think about doing yourself.;)
I never claimed to have the answers you seek. I don't know why Firefox is around, but that doesn't even matter to me. I use it because I like it. I know I can minimally install Mozilla. For me though, the simple options menu _is_ enough of a reason to use it over regular Mozilla. Regular Mozilla's option menu is worse than IE's, IMO.
As for addressing your issues. I did. The rest were just rhetorical troll garbage as far as I could tell. I didn't call you a troll because you don't like Firefox, I called you one because you don't like Firefox yet you are here trying to force your opinions about it on others. Whether or not you like it is irrelevant. Many do, and we are not going to change our views of it just because you say so.
I like a "dumbed-down" preference panel. I'm far from stupid, but I hate when software is overly complicated. Simplicity wins points with me, not tons of features.
Did it ever occur to you that some people don't want multiple applications in one? Like I said, I just want a browser. _I_ will pick the mail client I want to use, not some browser I installed.
In any case, nobody is forcing you to even look at it. If you don't like anything about it, then stop posting to topics about it. I hate trolls.
Things on the internet change so often over the course of a year that I never register / renew domains for any longer than 1 year. You never know when you can find a better price to renew your domain at.
Okay perhaps I have a dirty mind, but I thought I should share how my RSS panel showed the headline for this story:
"Guiness's World's Smallest Hard D..."
Yeah. Don't say you didn't think of it either.:)
I don't know about 2001 and 2002, but RAM pricing still sucks in 2004. I just paid $85 for a 512mb stick of PC-3200, and $75 for an 80GB, 7200RPM, 8mb cache HD. Really quite sad.
Fortunately, pretty much everyone saw through his BS comments. I must say that I'm rather disappointed that he would try to fool us with such transparent arguments. He *used to be* known for his honesty among customers. I fear he has been bitten by the greed bug though.
If I hadn't just blown my bankroll on a new computer yesterday, I might have been using it today to move my servers and customers somewhere else.
I'm an EV1 Servers customer and when I found out about this I was rather sickened. I think one of the people that posted in the thread on their forums put it best with something along the lines of "I'm offended you used the money I pay you to fund SCO's frivilous lawsuits". I couldn't agree more. Basically, in my opinion, they've forced every one of their current and future customers to support SCO. I've been with them for a year and a half, with no big problems, but if I could move my customers without any downtime or cost increase to me, I would in a heartbeat. Unfortunately, thats not realistically possible for me at this time.
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Whoever modded your post as flamebait needs to get a clue. Its not flamebait, its the truth. If they want people to switch from OE they need to add a single mail tree. Period. I am another one that won't switch until they do.
Another thing that annoys me, not quite enough to keep me from using it if they do the local mail tree thing, is the assuming of outgoing mail server. It assumes on every account you add after the first that it will use the first's outgoing mail server. That is NOT something that should be assumed, it should be a selectable OPTION with the ability to add a new outgoing mailserver for that account.
I'll probably get modded as flamebait as well, but to me this new version did absolutely nothing. Yeah I'm sure they fixed bugs and tweaked it a bit, but I don't see how that little bit of stuff warranted a new version.
I run RH9 on a box I mostly use for local services (web server,seti, ect.) and I have no intentions of moving to Fedora. If at some time I decide to move away from RH9, I will probably go to another distro altogether. Debian or Slackware I suppose.
I already block all of China from my server. Nothing but spam comes from Chinese IPs, so to hell with 'em.
This news post understated the price increase just like a Hard|OCP one a few days ago. I too bought some RAM at newegg at a pretty good price, and that was only about a month and a half ago. I got 512MB of Crucial PC-3200 for $85, and now its priced at $120. Guess I'll be putting off adding another stick to utilize dual channel for a while.
I know others have said it, but really, if people don't like it they don't have to use it. Nobody is being forced in the least. There are plenty of other free email providers. The big comeback to that so far has been, "but what if I have to send an email to someone on GMail". You can't pick the phone service provider for a person you call, just like you can't pick a person's email provider for them. If you are that paranoid and whatever you are sending needs to be soooo private, then I doubt you'll want to be sending to a free email address of any kind anyway. I swear, some people just bitch to hear themsevles bitch.
Actually, there were 5 including the Internet Explorer one.
I own a few domains and I never put the right phone number in. I also have an email address strictly set aside for domains only - which catches TONS of spam, and I tend to catch a little bit of snail mail spam as well - usually from the same company that tries to trick people into switching to them and paying $25+ a year. I hate the way that whois info is public though, and you have to pay (usually more than the price of the domain where I register domains) to make it private. It should be automatically private, at no cost. Someone above mentioned something about the reason that is there is for complaints and such - well I just happen to have an idea that could fix that problem easily. Make any complaints or inquiries go through the registrar. Kind of like a registrar private messaging system. It might seem like a lot, but I think it is little to ask to help stop the whois info harvesting and millions of spam emails that get sent as a result of it. ICANN already has a ton of requirements that registrars have to meet, why not one more.
Oddly enough, yesterday I saw a flash side-bar ad with Bush's face on it and asking "Should Bush be reelected". I don't think it was a campaign ad, but still, his picture was quite disturbing.
Man you are one blind asshole.
;)
"For me though, the simple options menu _is_ enough of a reason to use it over regular Mozilla. Regular Mozilla's option menu is worse than IE's, IMO."
One reason is enough for me. I don't need any more reasons. How many times do I have to say that? Why you are on this jihad against Firefox, I can't figure out. You don't have to even LOOK at it, so why don't you keep your troll comments to yourself next time? You're obviously the only one here that is pissed off (once again, about what I cannot figure out). Bye - I'm going to go get some fresh air, something you should seriously think about doing yourself.
I never claimed to have the answers you seek. I don't know why Firefox is around, but that doesn't even matter to me. I use it because I like it. I know I can minimally install Mozilla. For me though, the simple options menu _is_ enough of a reason to use it over regular Mozilla. Regular Mozilla's option menu is worse than IE's, IMO.
As for addressing your issues. I did. The rest were just rhetorical troll garbage as far as I could tell. I didn't call you a troll because you don't like Firefox, I called you one because you don't like Firefox yet you are here trying to force your opinions about it on others. Whether or not you like it is irrelevant. Many do, and we are not going to change our views of it just because you say so.
I like a "dumbed-down" preference panel. I'm far from stupid, but I hate when software is overly complicated. Simplicity wins points with me, not tons of features. Did it ever occur to you that some people don't want multiple applications in one? Like I said, I just want a browser. _I_ will pick the mail client I want to use, not some browser I installed. In any case, nobody is forcing you to even look at it. If you don't like anything about it, then stop posting to topics about it. I hate trolls.
Simplicity. I don't want a billion features, I just want a simple browser.
Things on the internet change so often over the course of a year that I never register / renew domains for any longer than 1 year. You never know when you can find a better price to renew your domain at.
Okay perhaps I have a dirty mind, but I thought I should share how my RSS panel showed the headline for this story: "Guiness's World's Smallest Hard D..." Yeah. Don't say you didn't think of it either. :)
I don't know about 2001 and 2002, but RAM pricing still sucks in 2004. I just paid $85 for a 512mb stick of PC-3200, and $75 for an 80GB, 7200RPM, 8mb cache HD. Really quite sad.
Fortunately, pretty much everyone saw through his BS comments. I must say that I'm rather disappointed that he would try to fool us with such transparent arguments. He *used to be* known for his honesty among customers. I fear he has been bitten by the greed bug though. If I hadn't just blown my bankroll on a new computer yesterday, I might have been using it today to move my servers and customers somewhere else.
I'm an EV1 Servers customer and when I found out about this I was rather sickened. I think one of the people that posted in the thread on their forums put it best with something along the lines of "I'm offended you used the money I pay you to fund SCO's frivilous lawsuits". I couldn't agree more. Basically, in my opinion, they've forced every one of their current and future customers to support SCO. I've been with them for a year and a half, with no big problems, but if I could move my customers without any downtime or cost increase to me, I would in a heartbeat. Unfortunately, thats not realistically possible for me at this time.