Hmm...I wonder what kind of specs you'll need to run the game decently through WINE? Hell, really I just hope it runs at all. Hopefully the release of the creature creator next week will help give the WINE devs plenty of time to make sure the full game will play when it's released;)
Also...since there's an official Mac port, that does mean the game should have an optional OpenGL render right?
Still...if IE's the only browser with support it's worthless. If it doesn't work in at the very least the top 3 browsers (IE, Mozilla, Webkit) and more than 1 operating system then there's no point in bothering with it.
It sounds more like what he needs is to take an md5sum of new files when they are added to the archive and verify any changes to them are made by a user specifically overwriting the file rather than some sort of software/hardware corruption as he's apparently experiencing. The md5 part is easy to automate, however the second part may require a human eye:/
I think this whole silly idea is the result of there still being confusion about the difference between a "distro" and an operating system. Sure...you can get technical all you want, but by the modern/common definition of an OS today, Red Hat and Debian are two completely different operating systems that just happen to be built off alot of the same components and have some similarities. Now, something like Ubuntu could be called a distro of Debian, but never a "Linux distro" because there is no such operating system as Linux. It's just the kernel, it's only a component of an OS. The term: "distribution" invokes the mental concept of a set of packages preinstalled and possibly even preconfigured for a particular OS. Just for example, if there were "Windows Distros" one might imagine there being a "MS Core" distro, which is basically what you get with a standard XP install...but then somebody named Bob put's out "Bob's Windows Distro" which comes with Firefox, VLC and Open Office preinstalled. That is what the term distro implies, not an entirely different OS which is binary incapable with other OSes of the same family. Linux is not an OS, simply a family of similar OSes. Apparently some distro devs and Mark Shuttleworth are still ignorant to this.
Just like the parent implied in his/her post... People don't look at FreeBSD and OpenBSD and assume they're just different "distros" of the same OS...no they're two completely seperate entities that share a few similarities here and there.
There's no since at all in syncing up the Linux family of operating systems when you stop improperly calling them "distros".
@MarkS:
Stop calling it "Ubuntu Linux"... you can call it "Ubuntu Debian" or just plain ol' "Ubuntu"... and then this whole thing won't be a problem anymore. You're not looking for developers and users to get behind "Linux" as much as you want them buying/developing for Ubuntu. This is the only way it will ever work with the mainstream market. Even though free (as in price), Ubuntu is a product, but Linux never will be.
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PS: I think the main problem that really inspired the idea is that not all the different open source projects line up as neatly/easily with Ubuntu as Gnome and it's subprojects...plain and simple;)
Sounds like AMDs aiming to make 4 different "console" type setups... to make this really work they need to focus on a singular setup rather than what they're doing... unfortunately I just don't think their heart is really in it enough. We've been working on the Open Game Console project for over 2 years now to figure out these sorts of issues and I just don't see AMDs current game plan working.
Well, you do make it obvious you didn't read the whole thing because what you argue here is the exact antithesis of the project. The difference between a console and PC gaming is that all the machines have the same hardware, the same OS and the same performance so developers dont' have to worry about that complexity and can optimize their code for that target of singularity.;)
Wanting to make a profit is not evil. However, lies still are. Saying that nobody can improve (read innovate) in open source is a flat out lie, and he knows it.
Also, if he really cared about making a profit he wouldn't still be clinging to his short sided, quick buck mentalities he started the company with decades ago...
Hotness is not always determined purely by aesthetic values. As an intelligent human being, one would hope to find the best mate to propagate the species with, so a moderately hot chick (aesthetically) with brains and a good personality only becomes that much hotter overall. Some geek you are...:P
Well, I know everytime they show Grant doing a websearch it's very apparent he's using AOL (WHY???), so he'd probably be the MS fanboy of the bunch, even though you'd think he'd be smarter than that...
Zimbra has been primarily focused on email (ala GMail, or Yahoo's own new beta webmail service), but they've recently begun working on adding office functionality (ala Google Docs & Spreadsheets, or ZoHo) to it's feature list. This would be really great for the business I work for as we'd much rather host our own web-based office stuff than lease it from Google or someone, and it's open source...I hope to God Yahoo doesn't screw Zimbra up.
Perhaps I've missed something but isn't Yahoo usually not too fond of open source stuff? Perhaps they're changing their ways? Or maybe they just want to make Zimbra proprietary to kill any open souce competition? I guess time will only tell on this one...
Of course it's not required for game running on DOSBox...the thing in question here is that if they are distributing DOSBox and these games in a singular package, then the terms are different than if they were distributed seperately.
Hmm...I wonder what kind of specs you'll need to run the game decently through WINE? Hell, really I just hope it runs at all. Hopefully the release of the creature creator next week will help give the WINE devs plenty of time to make sure the full game will play when it's released ;)
Also...since there's an official Mac port, that does mean the game should have an optional OpenGL render right?
Still...if IE's the only browser with support it's worthless. If it doesn't work in at the very least the top 3 browsers (IE, Mozilla, Webkit) and more than 1 operating system then there's no point in bothering with it.
This does bring up an old question of mine... how come no one has made a Python plugin for web browsers, like Java has?
Just think how much more awesome projects like TurboGears/Pylons could be if you could run Python on both the client side as well as the backend.
Where's APAX when we need it?
This is exactly why I use Turbogears and not Rails ;)
It sounds more like what he needs is to take an md5sum of new files when they are added to the archive and verify any changes to them are made by a user specifically overwriting the file rather than some sort of software/hardware corruption as he's apparently experiencing. The md5 part is easy to automate, however the second part may require a human eye :/
I think this whole silly idea is the result of there still being confusion about the difference between a "distro" and an operating system. Sure...you can get technical all you want, but by the modern/common definition of an OS today, Red Hat and Debian are two completely different operating systems that just happen to be built off alot of the same components and have some similarities. Now, something like Ubuntu could be called a distro of Debian, but never a "Linux distro" because there is no such operating system as Linux. It's just the kernel, it's only a component of an OS. The term: "distribution" invokes the mental concept of a set of packages preinstalled and possibly even preconfigured for a particular OS. Just for example, if there were "Windows Distros" one might imagine there being a "MS Core" distro, which is basically what you get with a standard XP install...but then somebody named Bob put's out "Bob's Windows Distro" which comes with Firefox, VLC and Open Office preinstalled. That is what the term distro implies, not an entirely different OS which is binary incapable with other OSes of the same family. Linux is not an OS, simply a family of similar OSes. Apparently some distro devs and Mark Shuttleworth are still ignorant to this.
;)
Just like the parent implied in his/her post... People don't look at FreeBSD and OpenBSD and assume they're just different "distros" of the same OS...no they're two completely seperate entities that share a few similarities here and there.
There's no since at all in syncing up the Linux family of operating systems when you stop improperly calling them "distros".
@MarkS:
Stop calling it "Ubuntu Linux"... you can call it "Ubuntu Debian" or just plain ol' "Ubuntu"... and then this whole thing won't be a problem anymore. You're not looking for developers and users to get behind "Linux" as much as you want them buying/developing for Ubuntu. This is the only way it will ever work with the mainstream market. Even though free (as in price), Ubuntu is a product, but Linux never will be.
</twoCents>
PS: I think the main problem that really inspired the idea is that not all the different open source projects line up as neatly/easily with Ubuntu as Gnome and it's subprojects...plain and simple
Sounds like AMDs aiming to make 4 different "console" type setups... to make this really work they need to focus on a singular setup rather than what they're doing... unfortunately I just don't think their heart is really in it enough. We've been working on the Open Game Console project for over 2 years now to figure out these sorts of issues and I just don't see AMDs current game plan working.
Well, you do make it obvious you didn't read the whole thing because what you argue here is the exact antithesis of the project. The difference between a console and PC gaming is that all the machines have the same hardware, the same OS and the same performance so developers dont' have to worry about that complexity and can optimize their code for that target of singularity. ;)
ok, ok...ya got me :P
Wanting to make a profit is not evil. However, lies still are. Saying that nobody can improve (read innovate) in open source is a flat out lie, and he knows it.
Also, if he really cared about making a profit he wouldn't still be clinging to his short sided, quick buck mentalities he started the company with decades ago...
I bet Stallman would flip out if he saw his implied improper use of the word "free software"...
Well, with all Bill Gates philanthropy stuff he does today...sometimes we need to be reminded he's still evil ;)
Hate to break it to ya Apple, but there have been cell phones with the ability to use services such as AIM for quite a few years now.
Who cares if they're ACID2 compliant anyway? That's old news now... Let me know when they can pass ACID3
So Kari's not hot...but Olivia Munn is??? WTF man...lol
Hotness is not always determined purely by aesthetic values. As an intelligent human being, one would hope to find the best mate to propagate the species with, so a moderately hot chick (aesthetically) with brains and a good personality only becomes that much hotter overall. Some geek you are... :P
Well, I know everytime they show Grant doing a websearch it's very apparent he's using AOL (WHY???), so he'd probably be the MS fanboy of the bunch, even though you'd think he'd be smarter than that...
I was talking about Doti's post...lol
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=420596&cid=22070542
I'm assuming that's a joke...
The Terrorists Have Won!
...and by Terrorists, I mean Bush, Cheney, Giuliani and all the other fearmongering neocons...
well thanks to you and all the other commentors for the correction ;)
Zimbra has been primarily focused on email (ala GMail, or Yahoo's own new beta webmail service), but they've recently begun working on adding office functionality (ala Google Docs & Spreadsheets, or ZoHo) to it's feature list. This would be really great for the business I work for as we'd much rather host our own web-based office stuff than lease it from Google or someone, and it's open source...I hope to God Yahoo doesn't screw Zimbra up.
Perhaps I've missed something but isn't Yahoo usually not too fond of open source stuff? Perhaps they're changing their ways? Or maybe they just want to make Zimbra proprietary to kill any open souce competition? I guess time will only tell on this one...
Of course it's not required for game running on DOSBox...the thing in question here is that if they are distributing DOSBox and these games in a singular package, then the terms are different than if they were distributed seperately.
sorry, looks like I misread your original post...