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A Mythbuster's Biggest Tech Headaches (and Solutions)

An anonymous reader writes "The Mythbusters' Jamie Hyneman shares his top tech annoyances. Hyneman runs down the little things that bug him about everything from tools (exotic chargers) to cars (useless features). He also notes that there's a lot of room for improvement on PC desktops: 'In addition to being buggy ... extra features tend to bog down your system by demanding more processing power and memory. Computer-makers: Don't load up operating systems with features and then make us sweat to figure out how to get rid of the fat ... There's another solution available to consumers: Switch to a Linux-based OS such as Ubuntu. Since most Linux OSs are free, there's no business reason to bloat up the system with feature frills.'"

395 comments

  1. No offence, by pwnies · · Score: 5, Insightful

    But it seems like this is just a fairly famous person telling us what we already know. Nothing new or insightful here IMHO.

    1. Re:No offence, by mattsgotredhair · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I agree... I really couldn't care less if the Mythbusters want my phone to have a universal power adapter. Why is this news? It seems like the paragraph or two that mentioned Linux was the only reason for this article to be relevant, and I don't wanna read about another person telling me why a Windows PC is bad.

    2. Re:No offence, by Captain+Splendid · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Not to mention the article's free of any "fixes" promised in the first paragraph. The best we get is "it should be like this!" Uh, yeah, it should, but got anything more practical?

      I love Jamie and Adam, but he needs to realize that engineering!=profits, hence all these annoyances.

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    3. Re:No offence, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

      it seems like the paragraph or two that mentioned Linux was the only reason for this article to be relevant

      I would say "you must be new here", but I doubt you are.

    4. Re:No offence, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have to disagree about the iPhone thing as well. I don't want a phone/camera/mp3 player/web browser/etc that costs me several hundred bucks. What I would like is a PHONE that does that one job very well for less than a hundred bucks. Still, companies keep loading them with features that are useless to me while making it difficult to find a phone without all that crap. Why I'm still using the same LG model for 8 years now.

    5. Re:No offence, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Well, no, not to a geek. But the general public might find some of it enlightening.

      Also, it's kind of nice to get support for this kind of view from a celebrity. It's like "no, you're not crazy. Jamie Hyneman Agrees!!".

      I am in total agreement with his stance on Vista for example. (I find it almost hilarious that MS now includes a movie editor, MSN, media this and media that, but still doesn't provide a decent text editor.)

    6. Re:No offence, by SQLGuru · · Score: 5, Funny

      If you want devices to be single function, always look for the ones endorsed by the AARP.

      Layne

    7. Re:No offence, by samkass · · Score: 1

      Personally, I think that's one of the iPhone's "sleeper" features that hasn't really been touted. There are by now tens of millions of iPod docking ports, docking cables, adapters, etc., around. IMHO, all phones should just pay Apple some minimal sum and standardize on the iPod port for their recharge/data cables. In the meantime, the iPhone is the only phone you can take virtually anywhere on the planet and borrow a cable from someone to recharge it. (of course, it would be nice if it could get service anywhere on the planet for reasonable money, but that's another story.)

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    8. Re:No offence, by samkass · · Score: 4, Funny

      And ironically, I had to click away a jumping JavaScript pop-in window in order to see the page talking about bloat and loading up an interface with crap.

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    9. Re:No offence, by Rub1cnt · · Score: 2, Interesting

      /etc/hosts 127.0.0.1 doubleclick.net :) Works WONDERS. :)

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    10. Re:No offence, by king-manic · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Personally, I think that's one of the iPhone's "sleeper" features that hasn't really been touted. There are by now tens of millions of iPod docking ports, docking cables, adapters, etc., around. IMHO, all phones should just pay Apple some minimal sum and standardize on the iPod port for their recharge/data cables. In the meantime, the iPhone is the only phone you can take virtually anywhere on the planet and borrow a cable from someone to recharge it. (of course, it would be nice if it could get service anywhere on the planet for reasonable money, but that's another story.) I think my mini-USB on my motorola Q does that job just fine. Charging, docking, syncing etc... Why not standardize that (most smart phones use that anyway). I think it's less a sleeper feature and more "Apple going it's own way" or "monolithic megalomaniac corporation attempting to force new standards down our throats a la Sony".
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    11. Re:No offence, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Nokia sells over 400 million mobiles a year, and their chargers are interchangeable across models (with the caveat that the newer N-series uses a smaller plug, although that is easily converted with a separate small plug head). If you ask any random cellphone using person on the planet to borrow their charger, there's a fifty-fifty chance you can charge your Nokia directly with it.

    12. Re:No offence, by MikeBabcock · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'm with you -- mini and micro USB is much more standard than the iPod and there's no reason Apple couldn't have used USB instead. It would've possibly cost more, sure, so they did something proprietary like everyone else.

      Ditto on the charger for the Nintendo DS whose plug is a very slight variation from a standard mini USB jack.

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      - Michael T. Babcock (Yes, I blog)
    13. Re:No offence, by mal3 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      You must have gotten that Motorola Q from someone other than Verizon. If you plug a regular USB cable into a Verizon phone(my old RAZR), you get an "Unauthorized Charger" message. They may have changed since then, but you can't be certain that just because the plug is standard the charger is too.

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    14. Re:No offence, by lgw · · Score: 2

      The parent post is modded funny, but that's not (only) a joke: that really is the best way to find an honest phone. There are a few of them still made for those of us who believe that the purpose of a telephone is to make telephone calls.

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      Socialism: a lie told by totalitarians and believed by fools.
    15. Re:No offence, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Posting anon because this is OT & could be considered trolling/flamebait, but you really gotta reconsider your post closes. This isn't usenet, you don't need to sign your name/sig to each post. Definitely don't need to do so twice per post (manually + sig).

      Please take this in the friendly advice way it was intended.

      PS: Love the last comment, very funny :)

    16. Re:No offence, by Whipeh · · Score: 1

      The same thing happens with AT&T BlackBerry devices. I tried giving someone a RAZR charger to use with their BB but it just refused to charge. I can understand it from a business perspective, but from a "make life simple" perspective it's utterly inane.

    17. Re:No offence, by rjstanford · · Score: 1

      The big thing that the iPod dock connector adds is line-level analog audio output. If it had stayed purely in the digital realm, I'd totally agree with you. This allows more expensive electronics to use their own outboard D/As, but cheaper pieces (car adapters, etc) to use the ones built into the iPod (which aren't bad for that kind of environment).

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    18. Re:No offence, by rjstanford · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Much as I hate replying to my own post, I dug this up and then forgot to add the link: http://pinouts.ru/Devices/ipod_pinout.shtml. Useful if you feel like getting a little hacky; interesting even if you don't.

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    19. Re:No offence, by SoCalChris · · Score: 2, Interesting

      My Verizon KRZR gave me that unauthorized charger message. It was on the screen just long enough for me to start cursing Verizon, then it went away and started charging. I think the phone was afraid I was going to chuck it across the room. You probably just need to make sure your phone knows who the boss is.

    20. Re:No offence, by VolciMaster · · Score: 1

      the "unathorized charger" message doesn't disallow the charger from completing the charge, however

    21. Re:No offence, by Machtyn · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I don't know. I want one device that does a bunch of things for me, but where the phone is a secondary function. Perhaps I am one of those holdouts. I really like my Palm Tungsten E2 (besides the really crappy two stroke writing style). I want my Palm device to be able to make a phone call.

      What I don't want is my phone to attempt to be a PDA. A phone's screen is not big enough to handle the amount of information I want on the screen (and me able to see it clearly.) But a PDA's screen is easily large enough to handle phone functions and has a processor fast enough to handle voice recognition calling.

    22. Re:No offence, by GarfBond · · Score: 1

      Well, it's more of a network effect than anything now. It used to be that iPod dock connector needed to supply both firewire and USB2, and the dock connector is a pretty good way of doing that. Nowadays it only needs to supply USB2 but the connector is far too popular to drop now. Not to mention it supplies nice things like line out and even controller functions separate of USB. Try shoehorning RCA-out connectors on something the size of an iPod :)

    23. Re:No offence, by TekPolitik · · Score: 2, Informative

      What I don't want is my phone to attempt to be a PDA. A phone's screen is not big enough to handle the amount of information I want on the screen (and me able to see it clearly.)

      This is a personal bugbear for me too. I'm currently in the market for a PDA. Not a phone/PDA combo - I want to be able to use the PDA while the phone's busy with something else, like allowing me to listen to somebody at the other end of the phone without being on speaker so the quality suffers. The usual suspects are no longer stocking standard PDAs at all.

    24. Re:No offence, by nwf · · Score: 3, Informative

      I'm with you -- mini and micro USB is much more standard than the iPod and there's no reason Apple couldn't have used USB instead. It would've possibly cost more, sure, so they did something proprietary like everyone else.

      In fact, there is. Getting L+R audio and video can't be done via USB and plug it into a stereo and/or TV with minimal electronics. Plus, there are ways to remote control the iPod via the connector, although I suspect that could be done via USB pretty easily.

      I don't think they even had micro USB when the iPod came out, either.

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    25. Re:No offence, by ncc74656 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'm with you -- mini and micro USB is much more standard than the iPod and there's no reason Apple couldn't have used USB instead. It would've possibly cost more, sure, so they did something proprietary like everyone else.

      The first iPods supported FireWire and had standard 6-pin FireWire connectors on them. On later iPods, the dock connector was a way to shoehorn FireWire, USB, audio, video, and remote-control functionality into a compact connector that wouldn't chew up much board space...an important consideration for a small device. All those connectors in their usual form would've bloated the iPod into something more closely resembling some of its competition.

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    26. Re:No offence, by Machtyn · · Score: 1

      That is interesting they still haven't provided a decent text editor. But now, any PC I touch gets notepad++. I suppose Microsoft should just leave most utilities off of the OS and let us find F/LOSS (or a variant) or a commercial product to get everything they need. It is a difficult balance for a company most consider a monopoly to include just enough utilities to allow functionality, but not have these utilities be too feature-rich to be accused of monopolistic and anti-competitive practices. (Although, this didn't stop them from MSIE vs. Netscape or MSOffice vs. Wordperfect.)

    27. Re:No offence, by king-manic · · Score: 1

      You must have gotten that Motorola Q from someone other than Verizon. If you plug a regular USB cable into a Verizon phone(my old RAZR), you get an "Unauthorized Charger" message. They may have changed since then, but you can't be certain that just because the plug is standard the charger is too. I have a completely unlocked but branded Q from my local telco. TELUS. I used to work for them and it was a employee incentive gift.
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    28. Re:No offence, by snowraver1 · · Score: 2, Informative

      In 2006 China was looking at standardising the phone charger market.
      http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20061219/092747.shtml

      I am not sure if they were successful or not (but given the plethora of chargers still on the market i'm guessing not). Another note, it is possible to get L+R stereo from a mini USB port (the motorola razr has a dongle that does just that. It should be entirely possible to make a dongle that does video out.

      I get so tired of companies pushing thier proprietory solutions when an already established would do the job just fine. (Sony and Apple, I'm looking at YOU!)

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    29. Re:No offence, by BeerCur · · Score: 1

      Or http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm Does wonders accross the board... except I would like to click a AdSense link ever now and again, and actually go to it.

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      It's not what your Sig can do for you, but what you can do for your for your Sig.
    30. Re:No offence, by Pherlin · · Score: 1

      What's even better is when they tell people that what they do know is wrong... they once did an episode where they "Disproved" that a CD can explode in a CD Rom Drive... Which many tech peoples know can happen in certain circumstances... But hey, what's wrong with a sample size of 1, right?

    31. Re:No offence, by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 1

      and I don't wanna read about another person telling me why a Windows PC is bad.

      So I take it you'll not be visiting Slashdot anymore since more than half the "stories" here are telling you why a Windows PC is bad?

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    32. Re:No offence, by Anonymous+Psychopath · · Score: 1

      I have two Nokia phones, an E61i and a smaller phone (I forget the model) that I used when traveling or doing something where I might damage the E61i, or just don't want the bulk. As you indicated, they have two different sized plugs. This means I have to carry two adapters. I could buy a new tip, as you suggest, but I can also get one of those universal chargers from Radio Shack or wherever that has interchangeable tips for various models, so I fail to see why Nokia is any better than anyone else.

      They are also not as ubiquitous as you might think, outside of Europe. If I look into a room full of colleagues, there will be more Samsung, Motorola and Apple phones than Nokias.

      Micro-USB is by far the best option. I already have wall and car chargers with USB plugs on them, or I can always charge off any convenient laptop or workstation.

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    33. Re:No offence, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well Motorola do a headphone rig for their phones that uses the USB port:

      http://cables4pc.com/goods_detail.php?goodsIdx=614

      USB was the final thing that swayed me to go for the RAZR V6. As 90% of my time is spend within 10ft of a computer and there is always a mini-usb cable hanging off one of them for one of my other devices it is the ducks guts. I can even charge it off the USB media player hooked in to my cars cigarette lighter, I guess.
      My world is full of chargers and data connections and I can only laugh you mere mortals.

      *LAUGH*

    34. Re:No offence, by Max+Littlemore · · Score: 1

      In the meantime, the iPhone is the only phone you can take virtually anywhere on the planet and borrow a cable from someone to recharge it.

      Actually, I know of two people among my freinds who own iPods and one of them lives on the other side of the world. I know heaps of people with older style Nokia chargers and even more people with usb hosts in the form of PCs, laptops, DVD recorders, etc, etc.

      I'm pretty sure that if everyone standardised on Apple connectors, Apple would be compelled to change to something funky looking which noone else uses - either that or sue. They tried to change with the move to intel CPUs, but long term I don't think they can really break that old habit.

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    35. Re:No offence, by Vellmont · · Score: 2, Interesting


      I love Jamie and Adam, but he needs to realize that engineering!=profits

      Since when? Nothing alone = profits. But in general, better products at lower profits = profits. (Try to remember Jamie has run quite a successful FX business for a number of years, so I'd say he knows at least something about business)

      With standard batteries, tool makers could focus on making tools, rather than another rev of a battery for toolx. Let the battery guys figure out the batteries. The reason it doesn't happen isn't profits, it's just that makers of most products have a poor history of co-operating with each other. If they actually DID co-operate and settle on a few standard battery sizes, they'd likely make MORE profits as costs would go down, and sales might even go UP (do to people not having to worry about all the damn batteries they have to keep around and functional).

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    36. Re:No offence, by zobier · · Score: 2, Funny


          Browser . hasAddOn ( 'NoScript' ) || User . handIn ( 'GeekLicence' );

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    37. Re:No offence, by samkass · · Score: 1

      I think my mini-USB on my motorola Q does that job just fine.

      I guess I've had a different experience-- the only thing I've seen with a USB port is a computer. I've seen cars, planes, clock radios, and a variety of consumer goods with iPod ports.

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    38. Re:No offence, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      try wordpad sometimes, huh?

    39. Re:No offence, by richlv · · Score: 1

      ahh, poor windows users :)
      though you might be blessed with kate soon (http://kate-editor.org/).

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    40. Re:No offence, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In Soviet Russia, whenever activist hears the word revolver, he reaches for You!

    41. Re:No offence, by More_Cowbell · · Score: 1

      like allowing me to listen to somebody at the other end of the phone without being on speaker so the quality suffers.
      Bluetooth headset?
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    42. Re:No offence, by SQLGuru · · Score: 1

      That is correct. The information I provided was serious information (this, some of the mods have been insightful/informative), however, I could see how someone could take it as funny. I even considered including some sort of "get off my lawn" remark but refrained in order to increase the chance that someone would take it as a conveyance of information instead of a quick quip.....but alas, Slashdot has the tendancy to take the slightest bit of information and twist it beyond the recognition of the original poster.

      Layne

    43. Re:No offence, by SQLGuru · · Score: 1

      Actually, the sig, includes my name as part of the copyright notice, not because it is "signing" my post. I "sign" my posts because I take ownership of what I am saying (as opposed to posting A/C -- which I do when I don't want to own up to my post). Sure, the system tells you who posted something, but I sign it, much like an e-mail, because it's "good form".

      Layne

    44. Re:No offence, by Firethorn · · Score: 1

      Hmmm... Maybe it integrates that technology used for help desk lines to determine how irate a caller is?

      You started cursing, it looked you up, found that you have the 'full' service plan covering even 'accidental' damage and decided to charge to prevent you from 'accidentally' driving over it?

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    45. Re:No offence, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When the iPod originally came out it had a freakin' 6-pin IEEE-1394a connector on it, so don't talk about a need for micro usb. The 'ipod connector' was originally introduced in the 3rd generation of ipods, around the time that the 'windows ipod' with usb2.0 was introduced.

      The way I see it, the iPod connector was introduced as a way to generalize the electronics in the iPod so that they didn't need two manufacturing processes for both usb2 ipods and ieee1394a ipods.

      Now that they are getting rid of ieee1394a support (at least for charging), I think that the only reason they are keeping the ipod connector is to have a proprietary interface to their popular device which they can cash in on.

    46. Re:No offence, by pnutjam · · Score: 1

      I was a palm lover for years, but I recently converted to an HP IPAQ 2950. It's great. I didn't realize what I was missing out on. The battary time is not as good, but I can still get a good day or more of reading books and really using my PDA. I do avoid using the wireless because it sucks down the battary, as do high intensity games. But for a PDA, ebook, mp3 device, it's really great.

    47. Re:No offence, by Firethorn · · Score: 1

      Having two charging connectors isn't necessarily a bad thing, as sticking with an old connector might end up costing more over time by saddling you with an ancient interface.

      Still, any change should be carefully considered and researched, especially if you, as a company, have standardized on a port. Something along the lines of 'pre-2000 connector', '2000 on connecter'. Next redesign: 2010.

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    48. Re:No offence, by MikeBabcock · · Score: 1

      The USB spec includes audio. The USB spec includes human interface devices (keyboards, mice, funny wheels for controlling your music selection, etc. There's no problem with the iPod just registering itself as a few USB devices (a storage device + an audio source, etc.).

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    49. Re:No offence, by mrsbrisby · · Score: 1

      I guess I've had a different experience-- the only thing I've seen with a USB port is a computer. I've seen cars, planes, clock radios, and a variety of consumer goods with iPod ports.
      You might not have noticed it.

      My GPS, and all four cell-phones (different brands: one RIM, two Motorola, one LG) in my house, and my bluetooth earbuds and headsets all have USB ports on them. It doesn't look like a type-B port but instead is a mini usb port. The manufacturers don't seem to advertise this port as a usb or data, but simply as the charger port. They do however, all seem to have the standard USB logo next to the port.
    50. Re:No offence, by The_reformant · · Score: 1

      What? why cant you get stereo (L+R) audio through USB? You know there is a whole plethora of USB audio interfaces right? they start at about £10 but the only bit of electronics you'd need in your dock would be the D/As which apple must use in their anyway.

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    51. Re:No offence, by AGMW · · Score: 1
      ... and a good reason to avoid their products in the future!

      There really is no good reason why you have to always buy a new charger whenever you buy anything else - it's so wasteful to have a box of wall-warts under the bed when one common standard could mean you just use your old charger when you buy new kit, and buy a new charger as required.

      I remember the Chinese attempt to force standards onto the phone manufacturers, but I guess it just didn't work!

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    52. Re:No offence, by beren12 · · Score: 1

      Text editor? No, you are confused. They want you to buy a 1 year subscription to MS Office Super Pro. for the low cost of $999.99.

    53. Re:No offence, by samkass · · Score: 1

      I meant a port you can use to get power from. I only see powered USB ports on computers. Not cars, nor airplanes, nor clock radios, etc.

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    54. Re:No offence, by mrsbrisby · · Score: 1

      I meant a port you can use to get power from. I only see powered USB ports on computers. Not cars, nor airplanes, nor clock radios, etc.
      Oh well, that's quite different then.

      I have however, seen clock radios and car radios with usb ports. I haven't been on a plane in a while, so I can't say anything about that, but I still don't think they're as uncommon as you might think.
    55. Re:No offence, by irc.goatse.cx+troll · · Score: 1

      No, it's a fairly famous guy telling his fans things they may or may not know. The fact that you're already well versed in the field doesn't mean my dad is, but he sure likes mythbusters as much as I do.

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    56. Re:No offence, by iroc409 · · Score: 1

      How's Joe Sixpack going to be able to sort through the 36 messenger clients, 43 text editors and 22 media players (none of which play DVD's) that are installed by default in many Linux ditros, let alone choose from the additional 384,000 identical programs in YaST?

      Linux kicks ass, don't get me wrong (I use it fairly regularly). I use Windows a lot too, and it also kicks ass. To say Vista is bloated because it includes Movie Maker and instant messenger is silly. Two of those features are generally included in the default install of every mainstream Linux distro out there.

      There are plenty of stripped-out versions of Linux, but there are a lot of bloated ones. We know how to sort it out, but the average Joe can't. The staggering amount of choice Linux offers is fantastic, but that very feature makes it difficult to use at the same token.

    57. Re:No offence, by sticks_us · · Score: 1

      Agreed--Did Andy Rooney ghost write this, or what?

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      "Beware of bugs in the above code; I have only proved it correct, not tried it." -- Donald Knuth
    58. Re:No offence, by briggsb · · Score: 1

      Sony's always doing crappy connectors like that. Have you seen the new power connector they're proposing?

    59. Re:No offence, by WuphonsReach · · Score: 1

      You must have gotten that Motorola Q from someone other than Verizon

      I have a Motorola Q and have no problems using any old USB cable with it.

      I even use the same USB cable to interface with my Sony PRS-505.

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    60. Re:No offence, by nwf · · Score: 1

      However, the iPod interface allows you to get L+R without ANY electronics and, more importantly, no power.

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    61. Re:No offence, by mink · · Score: 1

      In my job I will end up exposed to parts of medical records or other confidential medical information covered by HIPAA regulations. If I have a phone with a camera, many agencies will require I surrender it but if I have one without I'm fine to carry. AFAIK the law says nothing about taking peoples phones, but every agency either thinks they know what the law says or paid way too much money to someone to tell them what they think it means (mostly wrong).

      Some of us need simple devices so we are reachable while in areas that allow for no pictures.

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  2. Shame he didn't... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ..share it on his TV show, where it might have mattered. Posting it here is just preaching to the choir, so to speak.

    1. Re:Shame he didn't... by sjaguar · · Score: 5, Insightful

      What we need to do is to get a whole bunch of people to write in to see some PC myths.

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    2. Re:Shame he didn't... by HiVizDiver · · Score: 2, Insightful

      He didn't post it in here. He wrote it in an article in Popular Mechanics, a pretty widely-read magazine.

    3. Re:Shame he didn't... by spaceyhackerlady · · Score: 2, Informative

      A couple of years ago Jamie and Adam did an interview with Slashdot, and they explained that while they would love to do some computer myths, they just don't work on camera. Unless you take a spammer out to the bomb range, I suppose. :-)

      I can only think of one computer hardware myth offhand, about CDs fragmenting when CDROM drives spun them too fast.

      ...laura

    4. Re:Shame he didn't... by sjames · · Score: 4, Informative

      No, he "posted" it to Popular Mechanics, a magazine frequently read by people who will understand the issue, but may not have encountered Vista or Linux before.

    5. Re:Shame he didn't... by k_187 · · Score: 2, Informative

      FYI, they did that in an episode. Strapped a CD to an angle grinder to get maximum RPM.

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    6. Re:Shame he didn't... by mrdarreng · · Score: 1

      What we need to do is to get a whole bunch of people to write in to see some PC myths. Myth: The printer error 'PC load letter' predicts when a printer is going to be found in a field, smashed to bits by a bat and bare hand.
    7. Re:Shame he didn't... by Artaxs · · Score: 1

      "Tech Headaches"? TFA reads more like a list of pet peeves, and I have a pet peeve with sites that take an article only a few paragraphs long and break it up into *three pages* so that they can artificially increase pageviews and serve more ads.

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    8. Re:Shame he didn't... by smurgy · · Score: 2

      And reading Jamie's words has made me think creatively about the wireless home network I'll be setting up in the near future. I was going to go with xp for basic functionality and so as not to panic my girlfriend, but I'm thinking Ubuntu with a Windows emu for software that needs it just might not be such a bad idea.

      I'm really not sure where the posters ragging on how inappropriate this story is are coming from. Hyndman is a geek who is also celebrity, not a celebrity who happens to be a geek. He has gained his celebrity by popularising engineering as much as, say, Carl Sagan did so popularising astronomy. Given his popularity with the geek audience, posting to inform the community of an article he's written is appropriate. No, it doesn't provide the indepth answer to every problem, but it does what popular science writing is supposed to do: to challenge and inspire. Were /. to post an article with paparazzi pictures of Jamie's sex romp with Britney, that would be a different thing.

      Although I would click the link. Just to find out if he ever takes that damn beret off.

    9. Re:Shame he didn't... by richlv · · Score: 1

      yes, and that episode sucked bigtime :)
      not because it was computer related or not fit for camera - they blew stuff up and messed with it in a lot of unpracical ways.
      it was bad because they claimed that it (cdrom blowing up in a cdrom device) couldn't actually happen. well, riiight. when a friend of mine told me that, i was a bit skeptical. 3 years later that happened to me - an original, genuine windows 98 cd blew up un a dell optiplex workstation cdrom (i still remember some details :) ).
      the cd was not visibly damaged, it was quite new and it had spent most of its life in a jewelcase on a shelf.
      i opened the device, cleaned it out of all the cd parts and as far as i know, it still works :)

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    10. Re:Shame he didn't... by eldorel · · Score: 2, Interesting

      This one isn't actually a myth. I've seen cdrom drives do this first hand. In these drives the disks weren't shattering because of the speed, the drive motors had worked a screw loose, and the drive was slamming the edge against the interior of the drive.

      Rather impressive to watch actually. One drive actually blew the door off the front of the case it was in.

  3. Geekgasm by Stanistani · · Score: 1, Funny

    Mythbusters and Linux? What a Slashdot combo!

    Jamie's the one who tries NOT to get hurt on the show, of course.

    1. Re:Geekgasm by bwcarty · · Score: 2, Funny

      Jamie's the one who tries NOT to get hurt on the show, of course.

      Of course, when he does get hurt, it looks more painful than Adam's frequent miscues. That shot he gave himself when cutting the line to his handheld grappling hook winch was rough...it almost ranks up there with Adam putting his lips in the vacuum motor.
    2. Re:Geekgasm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      that explains why he's always seen using Ubuntu while Adam's been compiling Gentoo for the last 2 seasons

    3. Re:Geekgasm by berzerke · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Actually, I'm somewhat surprised Jamie mentioned Linux. I have noticed in some (past) shows they show a computer screen in a few camera shots and I recognized AOL. AOL is rarely the choice of the computer literate. Since Mythbusters seems to avoid product placements, I believe the fact I could spot AOL was more an accident than intentional. Haven't seen it lately though.

      Still, going from the choice of the not computer literate to talking about Linux as a desktop OS, in a non-computer tech magazine...that's a sign of progress. Is that another crack I hear forming in MS's empire?

    4. Re:Geekgasm by guruevi · · Score: 2, Insightful

      As an avid fan (I've seen all the episodes up until the last season back-to-back once upon a time) they seem to use the tool necessary for the job. Yes, I've seen Windows desktops surfing AOL (with their research staff) but I've also seen PowerBooks.

      Apparently Jamie got some time between the last season and now to test out that Ubuntu thingy and he really likes it. I'm a Linux/Mac-sysadmin, I don't necessarily like Ubuntu for myself (too dumbed down) but my parents currently run it on their desk- and laptop and they have stopped calling me every week about something that went wrong with their computer. I run Fedora Core here at work simply because it gets the job done (RPM's for specific scientific stuff), I am running all-Mac (2 PowerBook) at home now but I would use Gentoo (desktop). Slackware (other desktop) or Debian (router/server) if I had non-Mac computers.

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    5. Re:Geekgasm by Loadmaster · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Could just be marketing between Discovery/AOL or whatever. If you're going to show some software/hardware why not get someone to pay you advertising fees for it? Could be, might not be. Someone braver than me could trek into MySpace land and post the question.

    6. Re:Geekgasm by mini+me · · Score: 1

      they seem to use the tool necessary for the job.

      Adam was pimping his iPhone in the last episode I saw. Using it as a stopwatch and a calculator.
    7. Re:Geekgasm by greed · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I just want to know what fool let Adam get a Segway. That can't be good for anyone near by....

    8. Re:Geekgasm by domatic · · Score: 1

      I don't necessarily like Ubuntu for myself (too dumbed down) ....

      It is possible and easy to use Ubuntu as Debian with difference package repositories. The only real reason I use Ubuntu is that I think it is a better desktop compromise on the debugged/new-and-exciting tradeoff. Plus if I want something REALLY shiney, I just snag the Sid source package and build it against Ubuntu. Gotta love Debian derivatives.

      My home directory originated on a Sid installation and used this way, Ubuntu feels just like Debian to me. The "dumb down" parts will cheerfully get out of your way if you want no truck with them.
    9. Re:Geekgasm by beluv · · Score: 2, Funny

      Of course, when he does get hurt, it looks more painful than Adam's frequent miscues. That shot he gave himself when cutting the line to his handheld grappling hook winch was rough...it almost ranks up there with Adam putting his lips in the vacuum motor. No way. The most difficult moment to watch on this show is when the Tori/Grant/Cari trio played a prank on Adam and shocked him with the ark or whatever that was. I will not watch if that episode is airing.
    10. Re:Geekgasm by webmaster404 · · Score: 1

      Ubuntu is nice how I can put it on almost any laptop/desktop and find the Wi-Fi card painlessly, really my only connection is wireless so it is a make or break feature for me.

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    11. Re:Geekgasm by alan_dershowitz · · Score: 1

      I've noticed that on many shows you can easily tell whenever a product is a paid product placement. In most shows, product labels are fuzzed out. If it's not fuzzed out, it's probably a product placement. Not sure if this works for Mythbusters, I don't habitually watch the show.

    12. Re:Geekgasm by zippthorne · · Score: 1

      Seconded. In my personal experience (my laptop, desktop, and a few friends' machines) the wifi recognition on 7.10 live CD has been spot on. In fact, it's been 100%. The only thing I have to do is enter the password more than once for some reason.

      Knoppix certainly doesn't match that (as of the latest DVD version as of December, I couldn't figure out how to recognize my card, even though the forums all suggest it should've recognized it automatically).

      IMO, getting networking (and wireless networking if it's the only convenient option for that machine) is the most critical thing. Everything else can be adjusted if you have network access and some kind of web browser (even if your "web browser" is wget -O - ... | more) but if you can't get web access working, you can't browse the forums for the reason unless you've got another computer handy that's working.

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    13. Re:Geekgasm by TigerNut · · Score: 1, Funny

      No way. Tori's bicycle face plant takes both of those, hands (and face) down.

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    14. Re:Geekgasm by TigerNut · · Score: 2

      Bad link on that one... try this, and try not to cringe.

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    15. Re:Geekgasm by obeythefist · · Score: 1

      It's always interesting to read articles from people like Jamie, he's pretty gruff on the show and doesn't spend that much time on camera, but the article was quite well thought out and his writing was quite articulate. Even if it was nothing new. Having said that, he is a celebrity so maybe some marketing departments will pay attention?

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    16. Re:Geekgasm by richlv · · Score: 1

      I don't necessarily like Ubuntu for myself (too dumbed down)

      well, there's also kubuntu ;)
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    17. Re:Geekgasm by kria · · Score: 1

      It could definitely be the case - whenever they're doing tests that involve some kind of product, like, oh, Vodka or pop, they generally have a plain white Mythbusters wrapper around it.

      Depending on the location of M5, I suppose it's also possible that they have difficulties getting a decent provider out there. Okay, maybe that thought is just a little silly.

  4. Bloat? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Since most Linux OSs are free, there's no business reason to bloat up the system with feature frills.

    But Mandriva have never let a little thing like that stand in their way.

    1. Re:Bloat? by yoyhed · · Score: 4, Funny

      Since most Linux OSs are free, there's no business reason to bloat up the system with feature frills.
      Are you kidding me? I've always thought that the eyes that follow your mouse around were an essential feature to an OS.
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    2. Re:Bloat? by eugene+ts+wong · · Score: 0

      They are essential. What are you talking about?? Don't all distributions have that? In fact, my text console has a pair of text based eyes that follows the cursor.

      A weird situation happened once. I was getting tired of using Linux, so I finally let my friend show me his Windows desktop and the command line.

      When I saw the command line, I just stared and said, "How do you know where the text is going to appear?".
      He said, "...over there. The cursor!", and pointed.
      I said, "No! Don't you have eyes?".

    3. Re:Bloat? by phliar · · Score: 1

      Just adding an executable doesn't make a system bloated: the mere presence of the extra xeyes executable doesn't slow anything down. It's bloat when it gets in the way even when you don't use it, with no way to disable it.

      (And if you're obsessive enough to care about extra crap in the kernel that you don't use, you're free to compile your own kernel. Oh wait, you can't do that on proprietary systems.)

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    4. Re:Bloat? by Anonymous+Brave+Guy · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I believe he's spectacularly missing the point anyway.

      There's another solution available to consumers: Switch to a Linux-based OS such as Ubuntu. Since most Linux OSs are free, there's no business reason to bloat up the system with feature frills.

      That simply isn't true. All the crap that comes installed with your average vendor's Windows PC isn't there because the customer pays for it, it's there because the computer vendor gets paid to include it.

      This a great marketing model for commercial providers of security products and the like to hook clueless people, and they are more than happy to pay a small premium to get their three month trials onto a zillion new PCs. If you as PC vendor are supplying an operating system on which you can't make a substantial profit margin, there is more incentive to go for deals like this to keep profits up, not less.

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    5. Re:Bloat? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey, be careful what you say. Xeyes never blinks.

    6. Re:Bloat? by Weaps · · Score: 1

      You say that in jest, but I've found on my Mac when running dual monitors, my Eyeballs that follow the mouse cursor to be somewhat essential in helping me find where the damned thing is. And I've been using them for just that since my Sun X10 (no, not the camera, the release of X before it went to 11) days.
      I usually have them on the internal screen at the top so I have a place that I can immediately look at to know where my mouse cursor is when running dual, and in the menu bar when running portable with the single screen.
      The fact that they blink periodically and are aqualishious is just a bonus.

    7. Re:Bloat? by yoyhed · · Score: 1

      I'm well aware that extra executables on the disk don't constitute bloat, and I'm also well aware of how to recompile the kernel with only what I need (although I still end up being a pack rat when I do that - "I might need HFS support someday..."). It was a joke.

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    8. Re:Bloat? by etwills · · Score: 1

      I've always thought that the eyes that follow your mouse around were an essential feature to an OS.

      Why not? It's possibly the only useful Assistant anyone invented!
      "I see you're trying to locate the mouse pointer. Don't worry, I'm keeping an eye on it for you!"

  5. Adam by cruff · · Score: 5, Funny

    I though for sure his top tech annoyance would have been Adam Savage. :-)

    1. Re:Adam by Salgak1 · · Score: 1

      The problem with fixing Adam, is it would result in 20-to-life in sub-standard state housing. . . .

    2. Re:Adam by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      I'm also surprised that LOLCats (http://icanhascheezburger.com/2008/01/15/funny-pictures-welkum-to-mythbusters/) don't make the list :-)

    3. Re:Adam by Agripa · · Score: 1

      Adam Savage's tech annoyances are more then balanced out by the enjoyment one gains watching him hurt himself.

  6. Obligatory... by Brazilian+Geek · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Kari's hot.

    I don't care how badly her hair is cut nor how fugly red she has it, she's still hot.

    I know this isn't Fark, but it has to be said.

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    1. Re:Obligatory... by misleb · · Score: 1

      Not only is she hot, but she's hot in a very approachable way. Oh, and long red hair is HOT. Short red hair, not so much.

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    2. Re:Obligatory... by brunes69 · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Kari is pretty much average. Being a geek has obviously lowered your standards.

      I can't even count on my two hands the girls I know personally who are as good if not better looking than she is.

    3. Re:Obligatory... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Kari's hot. I'd like to bust her myth...

      My apologies.
    4. Re:Obligatory... by chubs730 · · Score: 5, Funny

      I can't even count on my two hands the girls I know personally who are as good if not better looking than she is.
      This is to be expected, it can be difficult to stretch a value of zero across ten fingers.
    5. Re:Obligatory... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      http://pornhater.com/wp-content/photos/karibyronmystbusters277zs_md.jpg

      I can't even count on my two hands the girls I know personally who are as good if not better looking than she is.

      Yeah, but not everyone has a mom who is a pornstar.

    6. Re:Obligatory... by Kazymyr · · Score: 1

      Yeah, but how many of them are on national TV?

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    7. Re:Obligatory... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      MOD PARENT +5 INSIGHTFUL

    8. Re:Obligatory... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just goes to show, even having ten fingers not everybody can count that high.

    9. Re:Obligatory... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      It says of her on the Mythbusters website:

      Sculptor, painter, actor and one-time-only backside-model. I guess that was the airplane toilet episode. I wonder whatever happened to that model Jamie made...
    10. Re:Obligatory... by rickb928 · · Score: 1

      My list of hot girls I know that are way hotter than Kari - >50 I could name, >100 if I have a couple of days to think it over.

      My list of hot girls I know that are way hotter than Kari AND on national TV - 3. If PBS counts.

      Being able to think over the hottness of girls I bot know and don't know, and compare the two - priceless.

      And all this means, what, nothing? Yeah... I want an SLI rig so I can be less useless in BFwhatever. Earth Girls are plentiful and currently cheaper than a slammin gaming rig. Wasn't always that way...

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    11. Re:Obligatory... by maryjanecapri · · Score: 1
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    12. Re:Obligatory... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd like to bust her myth... I'd like to myth her bust.

      My apologies. Likewise.
    13. Re:Obligatory... by theskipper · · Score: 1

      I can't even count on my two hands the girls I know personally who are as good if not better looking than she is.

      You could have saved us some reading time by leaving out the "who are as good..." part.

    14. Re:Obligatory... by Captain+Splendid · · Score: 4, Funny

      Kari is pretty much average.

      Granted, she's not Catherine Deneuve, but hot body+cute face+understanding of physics and engineering is not average, not by a long shot. Either you spend too much time in your basement or you're banging Playboy models on a regular basis.

      I'll leave it up to the reader to decide which is the most likely scenario ;)

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    15. Re:Obligatory... by ZephyrXero · · Score: 1

      Hotness is not always determined purely by aesthetic values. As an intelligent human being, one would hope to find the best mate to propagate the species with, so a moderately hot chick (aesthetically) with brains and a good personality only becomes that much hotter overall. Some geek you are... :P

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    16. Re:Obligatory... by ThePlague · · Score: 1, Insightful

      I doesn't count if you just "bot know" them.

    17. Re:Obligatory... by mcmire · · Score: 1

      And the sky is blue. Just in case you didn't know.

    18. Re:Obligatory... by jandrese · · Score: 1

      How many of those girls are "approachable" though? Would you want to hold a conversation with them? Like many Mythbusters commentators you have failed to fully grasp the premise before criticizing the work, which makes you a tool.

      Oh, and if you want to see the dumbest people online (even dumber than Youtube commentators), then look no further than the Mythbusters fansite. People are looking so hard for something "they screwed up" that most of the time they don't even seem to know what exactly the Mythbusters are testing.

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    19. Re:Obligatory... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      I would have to say you're out of your mind. Then again, I'm not you, and you may have different standards as to what's hot and what's not.

      Some guys prefer blondes, some prefer redheads, some prefer brunettes. Some guys don't really care about the hair color so much as the hair length, style, and texture. Some guys prefer blue eyes, some green, and some plain ol' big (or small) brown eyes. Some guys prefer tall and skinny, some short and curvy, some even obese or manly-type muscular.

      That's just the external. There are many factors which guys are attracted to which aren't necessarily skin deep. Maybe Kari's intelligence plays a factor in the GP's definition as to why she's hot?

      Point is, beauty is definitely in the eye of the beholder. A girl that may just be average or unattractive to you, or to the editors of Maxim, or Playboy, or Perfect 10 or whatever outfit relies on pictures of attractive women to sell their magazines or media, may be another person's girl of his/her dreams. No point in trying to criticize someone else's taste in women.

    20. Re:Obligatory... by hal2814 · · Score: 1

      "I'd like to myth her bust."

      I'll tell you what, you can take a good look at Kari's ass by sticking your head up there, but wouldn't you rather take her word for it? Uh... no, I mean you can take a good look at a T-bone by sticking your head up a Kari's a**, but then... No, it has got to be your bull...

    21. Re:Obligatory... by hal2814 · · Score: 1

      "Granted, she's not Catherine Deneuve..."

      No, but if Kari wants to do a lesbian sex scene with a young and still hot Susan Sarandon, it would go a long way to convincing me otherwise.

    22. Re:Obligatory... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well yeah, I would say that the TV hosts usually have pretty average looks, which seems to be the case for both Sweden and, what I suppose you mean by national, the US.

      Those who are part of the show however, contestants (gameshows with prizes and such), usually tend to look really good. They obviously handpick people who look perfect on TV. Except with Jeopardy of course.

    23. Re:Obligatory... by WormholeFiend · · Score: 1

      but hot body+cute face+understanding of physics and engineering is not average, not by a long shot

      Those two factors go a long way, for sure, but there are other factors that contribute to a successful relationship between a man and a woman (or any combination thereof).

    24. Re:Obligatory... by cthulu_mt · · Score: 1

      I just threw up. You need medication.

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    25. Re:Obligatory... by everphilski · · Score: 2, Funny

      at the late niiiight, double featuuure, picture show!

    26. Re:Obligatory... by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      Average? I'm sorry. Go to the nearest grocery store and walk up and down the aisles and make a comparison. Then go to Target and do the same. If you still think she's just average, then you're shopping in Hollywood.

    27. Re:Obligatory... by bark76 · · Score: 1

      Why would I want to think about someone else banging Playboy models?

    28. Re:Obligatory... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      or Canada

    29. Re:Obligatory... by cayenne8 · · Score: 1
      "Yeah, but how many of them are on national TV?"

      Well, think what you might of Fox News, but, they do have the best looking news chicks on there!!

      Megyn Kelly, Domenica Davis and Ainsley Earhardt as a couple of examples....

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    30. Re:Obligatory... by cayenne8 · · Score: 1
      "Not only is she hot, but she's hot in a very approachable way. Oh, and long red hair is HOT. Short red hair, not so much."

      She is cute, and I like her personality, but, she needs to grow the hair back out, and drop some weight....

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    31. Re:Obligatory... by misleb · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Drop some weight?? What? Did she gain a lot of weight lately and I just haven't seen recent episodes? Because I don't think I've ever seen her and thought "wow, if only she'd lose a few pounds." Or are you one of those guys that has to be able to count the ribs on a girl before she's considered hot? Ick.

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    32. Re:Obligatory... by Flaming+Foobar · · Score: 1

      Megyn Kelly, Domenica Davis and Ainsley Earhardt as a couple of examples....

      [x] (fake) blonde
      [x] permanent smile
      [x] tons of makeup
      [x] truckload of hair products
      [ ] beautiful features
      [ ] hot

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    33. Re:Obligatory... by cayenne8 · · Score: 1
      "Drop some weight?? What? Did she gain a lot of weight lately and I just haven't seen recent episodes? Because I don't think I've ever seen her and thought "wow, if only she'd lose a few pounds." Or are you one of those guys that has to be able to count the ribs on a girl before she's considered hot? Ick."

      No...but, her ass is getting a little wider last few episodes, and she is showing a bit of a pot belly....I like my chicks to have flat stomachs...especially when that young, and no kids. No..I don't need to see the ribs, but, I also don't like them flabby. She isn't bad fat...I didn't say that. I said she could stand to drop a few lbs...5-10 lbs is all.

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    34. Re:Obligatory... by misleb · · Score: 1

      No...but, her ass is getting a little wider last few episodes, and she is showing a bit of a pot belly....I like my chicks to have flat stomachs...especially when that young, and no kids. No..I don't need to see the ribs, but, I also don't like them flabby. She isn't bad fat...I didn't say that. I said she could stand to drop a few lbs...5-10 lbs is all.


      But 5-10 lbs is so trivial. It wouldn't even make much of a difference.
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    35. Re:Obligatory... by Trinn · · Score: 1

      I think you mean gain..or even just keep would be fine ^-^

      (yes I can be a pig too if I try, its not limited to you men)

      but the truth is she'd be hot in almost any shape b/c of her personality & intelligence

  7. And another thing. by ColdWetDog · · Score: 5, Insightful

    How about web articles that have more words than ads. Come on. This paragraph-at-a-time stuff is more annoying than even Vista.

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    1. Re:And another thing. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Stop reading them or use adblock

    2. Re:And another thing. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Insightful? Common. I bet you still use IE as your main browser too.

    3. Re:And another thing. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There's this wonderful little-known plugin for this browser called Firefox. I dunno if you've heard of it, but it's called Adblock. Another one called Adblock Plus even synchronizes with a central repository that manages the list of ads to block for you.

  8. So if Jamie represents Linux... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...and Adam seems to like Apple, who gets Microsoft?

    My guess is Buster.

    1. Re:So if Jamie represents Linux... by RyuuzakiTetsuya · · Score: 5, Funny

      I don't think Buster's had a chair thrown at him just yet.

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    2. Re:So if Jamie represents Linux... by ZephyrXero · · Score: 1

      Well, I know everytime they show Grant doing a websearch it's very apparent he's using AOL (WHY???), so he'd probably be the MS fanboy of the bunch, even though you'd think he'd be smarter than that...

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    3. Re:So if Jamie represents Linux... by dondelelcaro · · Score: 1

      I don't think Buster's had a chair thrown at him just yet.

      One would think that having the chair (well, throne) he was siting on thrown (well, attempted to be propelled) into space qualified.

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    4. Re:So if Jamie represents Linux... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or there's an advertising thingy called product placement...

    5. Re:So if Jamie represents Linux... by everphilski · · Score: 1

      Kari? :)

    6. Re:So if Jamie represents Linux... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What's the point of throwing a chair at him when you can throw him with the chair?

    7. Re:So if Jamie represents Linux... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't think Buster's had a chair thrown at him just yet.

      That's about the only thing that hasn't been done to Buster. He's been *in* several chairs that *have* been thrown... like the James Bond car ejection seat, and the ancient oriental rocket chair that blew up when they tested it.

    8. Re:So if Jamie represents Linux... by calebt3 · · Score: 1

      James Bond car ejection seat That wasn't Buster. That was (and I quote) "Buster's buddy's better half."
  9. Corrected for him... by InsaneMosquito · · Score: 4, Funny

    If I want to be nagged in my car, I'll bring my wife.

  10. Use something else, then. by Lilith's+Heart-shape · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    If you think Mandriva is bloated, then use a different distro. Goddess knows there's only a few hundred to choose from.

  11. Things will be getting simpler, and are already. by dada21 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    All my phones in recent years use a USB port to charge. My new iMate Ultimate 6150 does, my previous HTC Trinity did, my wife's Motorola phones do. I won't buy a phone without a USB port to charge with. We carry around a small AA charger that has a USB port on it to charge devices on the go, it works great for long flights or any sort of travel away from a USB port.

    In my car I tossed the 12V "cigarette lighter" from the dash to the truck. I also increased its power from a small 5A fuse to a 10A fuse, so I can run a reasonably sized 120V inverter (also in the trunk) to power a few devices on-the-go.

    In the place of the dash 12V adapter, I installed a nice custom panel with 3 USB ports. They're high power ports, so I can charge a phone, a GPS receiver, and a plethora of other devices that use USB to charge. In the future I'd like to connect one port to a radio so I can play music on-the-go without my iPod.

    In the past, I've had relatively complicated small PCs to run my music system, but I'm seeing more and more options for in-vehicle PCs running Linux. Eventually I think we'll see a system that works well and is cheap. Since we only buy used cars, tossing the radio is one of the first things we do, and it's at most a loss of maybe $25 worth of electronics.

    There are many things I wish were modernized, standardized, and more open. First, vehicle information is very proprietary. Why is it that cars can't report status information via a simple USB connection? All the information is either there, or could be generated VERY cheaply. I ran out of wiper fluid two days ago (lots of snow in Chicago lately), and I sat there thinking how lame it is that the wiper fluid reservoir doesn't have a simple sensor to detect low fluid (it's a 2001 vehicle, not THAT old). Even that could be transported across a USB chain with regular updates. Heck, a $2 sensor could even sense fluid at 3 levels. Simple enough.

    At home, we have a DC run throughout the house wherever we upgraded our power, and I'm seriously thinking of changing it to USB charging. AC in the home is useful, but so many devices use DC (and the dreaded overheating wall-warts!) that I'm shocked that more devices aren't standardizing on DC. 18V, 5A+, not a big deal -- but so many devices could use it (charging tools, video games, cell phones, even some computer monitors). Simple, without needed ANOTHER heat-generating and wasting transformer. My laptop is DC, too, yet I need the darned transformer throughout the house.

    But I still see more and more devices standardizing in many ways. Over time, manufacturers are seeing that power is a commodity, not a profit maker. I tell my friends and family to stop buying products that use proprietary charging hardware. With tools, the battery situation is frustrating, but I think we'll see some changes there. I like the idea of having a standard 6V pack, and just adding more if you need 12V or 18V. Even better would be a "serial/parallel" switch so you could go from 6V 1A to 6V 2A or 12V 1A with the flip of a switch. Ahh, to dream.

  12. Ubuntu no better by Beetle+B. · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Don't load up operating systems with features and then make us sweat to figure out how to get rid of the fat ... There's another solution available to consumers: Switch to a Linux-based OS such as Ubuntu. Since most Linux OSs are free, there's no business reason to bloat up the system with feature frills.'" I don't see Ubuntu being a "better" solution in this regard. One can also make Ubuntu highly bloated. As the article mentions, one can reduce the Windows bloat by de-selecting options. How is Ubuntu inherently better in this regard?
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    1. Re:Ubuntu no better by kryten_nl · · Score: 1

      For one thing: you don't need special software, if you don't want MSN support installed. http://slashdot.org/articles/08/01/28/1514212.shtml

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    2. Re:Ubuntu no better by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      One can also make Ubuntu highly bloated. One can make...? Ubuntu's already bloated out-of-the-box!
    3. Re:Ubuntu no better by Reverend528 · · Score: 1

      Well, in ubuntu's defense, it's at least fairly easy to remove the excess software (through apt). But yeah, if you're looking for a bare OS to only run the apps you install, then debian would be a much better choice.

    4. Re:Ubuntu no better by Jumphard · · Score: 1

      Agreed! For the average user Ubuntu is about as easy to get up and running as building a skyscraper with toenail clippings.

      I'm no slouch when it comes to unix or programming, but I had to find all sorts of code repositories, libraries, make files, and freakin' drivers just to get my PC up and running.

      More like Nobuntu round here anymore.

    5. Re:Ubuntu no better by KublaiKhan · · Score: 2, Informative

      Because it ships as non-bloated, and you have to add the bloat yourself, mostly.

      I have to say that I've been fairly impressed with Ubuntu thus far. It seems fairly stable and reliable, and the little update widget is remarkably painless, and has only insisted on a reboot a couple of times (for things like kernel changes). Add to that the ability to get software to do just about everything I want to do with either apt-get, synaptic, or that add/remove programs thingy, and there's no more dependency hell. I wouldn't call myself a 'fanboy' exactly...but I -am- fond of it.

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      A stately pleasure dome decree
    6. Re:Ubuntu no better by vertinox · · Score: 1

      How is Ubuntu inherently better in this regard?

      As the lead guitarist of the Clash said (paraphrased) "It was easy for kids to jump from long haired glam rockers in the mid 70's to the short spikey haired punks in the late 70's over night. Had they wanted to do the reverse, they would have to wait a while for their hair to grow out."

      Except with software it reserved so its easier to add than to remove.

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      -Sigismund, Holy Roman Emperor (1368-1437)
    7. Re:Ubuntu no better by Beardo+the+Bearded · · Score: 1, Troll

      Ubuntu is horrible.

      I installed it earlier this week. It had been a few years since I rebuilt my Win2000 machine (my primary box), and I decided to give Linux another try (after a miserable time with Storm about ten years ago.)

      Have fun if you want to install a video card that's not "on the list". The response I got on the various boards was "you should buy a better video card. 1024 in 2d should be enough. lol" It's a friggin' Radeon (albeit a few years old) not a Voodoo card. (All of which happen to be supported for some reason.)

      Really awesome, guys. Really awesome. And yes, I tried installing the proprietary ATI drivers, tried Envy, but it just doesn't work. Even better, if you pick an invalid resolution, it tests FINE, then just blanks out your display when you click "ok".

      It seems like every time the kernel updates, the drivers fail. My guess is that there's no stable API and everyone who hates the old function names just renames them (or they tie the names into the kernel version). Egads, that's WAY WORSE than ANYTHING Microsoft has EVER done. Period. (Including ME and BOB.)

      That's just the "dustiest table in Pompeii". I've had nothing but problems with it.

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    8. Re:Ubuntu no better by Hatta · · Score: 1

      You're just a tired old troll. Practically all the drivers and codecs you'll ever need are included with ubuntu. Certainly a lot more than Windows, where you have to hunt down drivers for every 3rd party peripheral you have. And the ones that aren't included, find themselves the first time you need them. All you have to do is click 'Yes'.

      Crawl back under your bridge.

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    9. Re:Ubuntu no better by Jumphard · · Score: 1

      Well you don't actually know what drivers I needed do you? All I'm saying: it was a hassle. Setting up a Windows box took a small percentage of the time.

      Thanks for coming out.

    10. Re:Ubuntu no better by rthomas6 · · Score: 1

      As a tangent to this, I have to add: Why does everyone act like ubuntu is the only Linux distro that is easy to use? There are many other good choices that are also easy to use. Some of them are quite a bit lighter, as well.

    11. Re:Ubuntu no better by Beardo+the+Bearded · · Score: 1

      So why am I modded as a troll?

      I can only surmise that you disagree and feel like Ubuntu is the best OS ever. That's super.

      Why not tell me how to get my card to work? Care to explain the quirky "every resolution passes the test" GUI interface? How about how you have to get battery testing on a desktop and IR port device connection on a wired PC?

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      ECHELON is a government program to find words like bomb, jihad, plutonium, assassinate, and anarchy.
    12. Re:Ubuntu no better by deragon · · Score: 1

      Obviously, you have never had to setup a wireless card on a laptop with Linux... Believe me, for most cards, Ubuntu does not help and you have to dig down in the CLI to try to get things working.

      For the rest, you are right.

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      Remember the year 2000? They promised us flying cars. They delivered the PT Cruiser...
    13. Re:Ubuntu no better by ericrost · · Score: 3, Interesting

      My apologies, but ATi has given the linux community (up until late last year) NO support to produce free drivers for them, and the drivers they put out at that time, while existant, may as well have not been built. Those cards (I have one sitting on a shelf) are just no-go under Ubuntu. nVidia vs ATi is a great example of what open specs, cooperation, and transparency get you. nVidia provided decent binary drivers (they had their issues at times) and has worked with the community to develop an open source driver.

      ATi, however, crapped out drivers that don't work for years. Unfortunately, the answer is that you're SOL. I battled with a 9800 all in wonder pro for close to a month under gentoo then ubuntu before I just dropped back and made that machine into a server. So yes, the answer if you would like to use your machine with Ubuntu is to get a better video card. Sorry you had it put to you so rudely before, but that's what open development on one side and closed on the other gets you: winners and losers. If only they were all open.

    14. Re:Ubuntu no better by RobDude · · Score: 1

      That's B.S....

      Windows auto-detects 'most' of my hardware; but yes, I'll agree that it doesn't find all of it. Here is the difference between Ubuntu and Windows...

      I install Windows and my Wireless USB Adapter doesn't work. I insert CD that came with Adapter I bought at a local electronics store (Best Buy, for example). Now my adapter works.

      I install Ubuntu and my Wireless USB Adapter also doesn't work. I insert the CD that came with the adapter - but - IT DOESN'T HAVE LINUX DRIVERS. Well, I can't get online with my now worthless PC; hopefully I didn't actually expect Linux to work and I used a live CD, or a partition. Then I can get back into Windows and spam some Linux support forums.

      After a bunch of searching, I'll find that, there is no good way for my hardware to work. I can go and buy a new wireless usb adapter. Only, the stores nearby - like Best Buy and Circuit City don't carry any wireless USB adapters that come with Linux drivers that you can just grab off the shelf and take home with confidence that it works.

      You'll find that there is some hack/emulator thing you can try, called ndiswrap or some crap. You can use the Windows Drivers and add an extra layer that is, of course, needless overhead - meaning your performance will be worse than it would be in Windows or with a real Linux driver. If you were like me, you'd find that, even with multiple reboots and multiple visits to a forum over a week long period - your wireless adapter simply will not work with Linux, hack/emulator or not.

      Then you can order a wireless usb adapter off the net; but even finding one is tricky. It's often based on the chipset and people will rarely give you a link to something you can simply purchase without more research and investigation. I know, because I asked, on the Ubuntu forums. If I'm going to buy a wireless adapter soley to function in Linux, I want one that says it works in Linux plainly and clearly on the box....not one that some other dude 5 states over got to work after tweaking and hacking all night.

      Sure, sure, I'm a 'tool' for expecting something I already own, that already works, to work for me in Linux. I should just man up, and run a cable or get an older PCI card that Linux now supports (but, when I had my first wireless card, and it was new - Linux didn't...).

      I like Linux, it's great, I run it at home and even if I didn't; I think it is good for the market for Linux to exist. But isn't Linux good enough now for us to admit that it has short comings? Why is that so wrong?

      Hardware support in Linux is still 'iffy'. When you tell people otherwise, they are upset (understanably so) when they find out their stuff doesn't work. If you are honest and upfront; people know what they are getting in to. They know there is a decent chance that at least one of the hardware devices they own is going to lack support and that, if they are just at typical user they will either have to go without or get a new Linux-friendly version of that hardware.

    15. Re:Ubuntu no better by mwarps · · Score: 1

      I'm sorry, but this is simply false. Someone with your hardware configuration may have problems.

      I've personally set up ubuntu on three machines with totally different configurations. One had an ATI video card. It went through Ubuntu, Slack, and Gentoo before I sold it off to build a new quadcore. ATI support, even with the new drivers, is horrible. Blame AMD for that, not Ubuntu.

      There is almost no user intervention required for Ubuntu to be set up properly on supported hardware out of the box.

    16. Re:Ubuntu no better by mwarps · · Score: 0

      This deserves a huge trollrating. Ubuntu is not responsible for the continuous, crashing, undeniable amateurism that AMD/ATI has been putting into their linux drivers for the last few years.

      Nvidia Cards work flawlessly under Ubuntu and everything else.

    17. Re:Ubuntu no better by RobDude · · Score: 1

      People here like things simple...

      Windows -> Bad
      Linux -> Good

      and they don't like anyone saying anything different.

    18. Re:Ubuntu no better by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ATI's drivers suck, even on Windows. It doesn't surprise me at all that you had problems with your Radeon on Ubuntu.

    19. Re:Ubuntu no better by mwarps · · Score: 1

      I don't think it's an "ease of use" issue, though for some it may be.

      Ease of install on supported hardware... A chimpanzee could do it. For me that's a major "selling point" - I've done Red Hat since version 4, Slackware, Gentoo.. Ubuntu just works right out of the box if you have supported hardware.

      However, I will say that some distros have to be tweaked and worked on to get the simple functionality you get with Ubuntu right out of the box.

    20. Re:Ubuntu no better by Beardo+the+Bearded · · Score: 2

      Sure, I'll buy that.

      I'll let you say that it's not Ubuntu's fault that it doesn't support the 2nd-largest video card family. If that's how Ubuntu people debug, no fucking wonder it's flawed. ("It can't be MY system that's flawed, since I'm so brillant!") It's surely not the fact that the drivers become unstable after every kernel update. Perhaps there's a sense of ongoing defeatism at ATI because the API on the *nix kernels changes every release. "Fuck it, the driver will only be good for a month, so don't bother QA with it."

      So I'll buy that part. Clearly, AMD and ATI (companies I've hardly heard of) are a great deal more amateur than the hundreds of volunteers who work on Ubuntu.

      But what excuse is there for passing the resolution test then crashing the PC when you click "ok"?

      As for you, you seem to be a nVidia fanboy. My Radeon worked flawlessly under Win2000 and took me less than five minutes to install correctly. Under Ubuntu, a WEEK LATER, someone tells me that it's ATI's fault.

      Awesome, guys. Awesome.

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    21. Re:Ubuntu no better by RedK · · Score: 0

      You have no clue what you are talking about and it shows. First off, Ubuntu doesn't write drivers for your ATI card, ATI/AMD does, or the Kernel developpers attempt to from documentation provided by AMD/ATI (see the common point there ?). Second, APIs don't change in *nix kernel every minor revision, otherwise all the kernel drivers would have to be changed to reflect it and the changelogs would be 200 pages long to reflect all those changes, bringing about long delays as all maintainers have to adapt to the new fantasy API changes after they have been committed.

      And finally, you're just a poor troll. Learn to read compatibility lists. No one blames Windows Vista when their hardware doesn't work because of lack of drivers, they blame the OEM for not writing proper Vista drivers.

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      Anonymous Coward on Monday August 04, @06:49PM
    22. Re:Ubuntu no better by Falstius · · Score: 1

      Yes, there is hardware that doesn't work well in Linux. I have a very similar story about trying to get wireless cards working reliably. I wasted tons of time on it. In the end I just gave up, put the wireless cards in a Linux box instead, where there were native drivers. The I used the built in forwarding to provide an internet connection for the Windows PCs. ndiswrapper is a command line app, which is nice because I can tell you how to use it (type sudo ndiswrapper -i driver.inf) instead of having to make a 3 page document with screen shots of how to install a driver in Windows. The overhead is minimal, it would be interesting to see some benchmarks.

    23. Re:Ubuntu no better by Beetle+B. · · Score: 1

      It seems like every time the kernel updates, the drivers fail. Why are you updating kernels?

      I don't really know the Ubuntu way - I use Gentoo. And I never upgrade to a new kernel unless I have to. Upgrading to a new kernel version is a bit of a mess. You have to recompile a number of modules/drivers. Perhaps it's not as messy in a binary based distribution, but I'm just not sure it's a great idea...
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    24. Re:Ubuntu no better by mwarps · · Score: 1

      Let's try this again. This is obviously bouncing hard off your skull, so perhaps several times might make it sink in.

      Good luck getting AMD drivers for a new card (or even some old cards) to work under any distro at all at this point, without major headaches.

      And crashes when you hit okay? Maybe you missed the big red exclamation marks that said the driver wasn't supported. Good job on the reading comprehension.

    25. Re:Ubuntu no better by BrianGKUAC · · Score: 1

      Try Linux Mint. If your wireless card doesn't work, look under the menu and you'll find a program called "Windows Wireless Drivers". Click "Add". Point the browse window to the INF file on the CD. Click "OK". Click "OK". Click "Close".

      Viola. Net.

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    26. Re:Ubuntu no better by ericrost · · Score: 1

      In the "ubuntu" way, they do minor kernel revs to backport driver fixes. This creates the issue of (if you don't decide to use the lovely restricted drivers manager to make it seamless that is) recompiling the driver against the correct kernel header (as you have to do every time you rev a kernel under gentoo as well). If you use the restricted driver manager, the package manager handles this process for you, and you don't even bother recompiling yourself, it just installs the proper driver when the kernel revs. This also manages the selection of which kernel to boot into. Ubuntu rolls out the new kernel rev asap, but gets the restricted drivers packages done more like 3 days later. So, the package manage goes ahead and installs the kernel, but leaves the default boot option locked at the highest rev that has all the system dependencies resolved (yay debian for creating aptitude that does package managment correctly).

      This has been your local ubuntu geek, signing off.

    27. Re:Ubuntu no better by Beardo+the+Bearded · · Score: 1

      There weren't any warnings.

      I chose the ATI Radeon drivers, picked out the monitor, set the resolution, and clicked "test".

      It then popped up a dialog box that said, "Would you like to keep this resolution? It will revert in 15 seconds."

      I clicked the "keep" box since it looked fine.

      I then clicked the "OK" box.

      The screen went blank. My only choice was to reboot the system.

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  13. This should annoy him by serginho · · Score: 5, Funny
    1. Re:This should annoy him by Monsieur+Canard · · Score: 1

      That picture has been my desktop at work for a few days now. Those who get it laugh heartily. Those who don't ... I usually just tell them that the explanation would take too long.

      lolcats just lose all funny when you have to disect them.

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    2. Re:This should annoy him by mule007 · · Score: 1
    3. Re:This should annoy him by antdude · · Score: 1

      I wonder if Jamie has seen it yet.

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  14. There is a business reason for crap software!! by erroneus · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The reason is that they get paid to install crap software on your computer!

    Remember when the promise of cable TV was that you wouldn't have to watch commercials because you were already paying for TV? That didn't last long... the promise was broken and now you pay for TV service *AND* you have to watch commercials.

    You pay for magazines and news papers and with the exception of consumer reports (at least that was the case in the past) you get commercial ads in there too!

    It seems no business can resist the temptation to sell their customer's eyes to advertisers and other parties. It's a very bad business practice and one that eats at the trust that customers have with their vendors and service providers. But it's so common place these days that to do otherwise would be an exception rather than the rule. It's not an excuse for bad behavior, it's just a fact.

    Dell does a lot less of that than others and you can certainly request that anything be loaded or not loaded as well. But the average consumer doesn't know this and so they are victimized by having their computers compromised right out of the box.

    But there is a business reason for the extra crap-ware to be installed... they get money when they do it.

    1. Re:There is a business reason for crap software!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's because the customer of the media company (magazine/tv/radio) is the advertisers, not the readers. The media company provides eyeballs to the advertisers, and any money they make off the readers is gravy.

    2. Re:There is a business reason for crap software!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The stations you explicitly pay more for have no commercials (hbo, etc).

      The stations you pay bundled for delivery, because you don't get reception from the transmitters (which still exist, if you want 'free' tv), have commercials. (sci-fi, discovery, etc.)

    3. Re:There is a business reason for crap software!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I just ordered a subscription to Consumer Reports (it was very cheap with the web sub, which I wanted since I was HDTV shopping). Ever since then, I've been getting junk mail asking me to subscribe to e.g. some random nutrition rag (did you know chicken parmigiana is BAD for you?!); Readers Digest (!! This tells you something about the modern demographics of Consumer Reports); and some Time-Life Greatest Hits of Football collection with "free" team jacket.

      On the plus side, yeah, there aren't (many?) ads in the mag itself I guess... Still, I do wonder what kind of deals they may have behind the scenes. I haven't used CR since I bought the TV either - they can't possibly be as popular now as in the 70s, and probably want the money.

    4. Re:There is a business reason for crap software!! by DerekLyons · · Score: 1

      Remember when the promise of cable TV was that you wouldn't have to watch commercials because you were already paying for TV?

      How I can I remember something that never happened?
  15. ... no business reason by jamesl · · Score: 1

    Since most Linux OSs are free, there's no business reason to bloat up the system with feature frills.

    Since most proprietary OS vendors try to make a profit, there is no business reason to spend development time and money bloating up the system with feature frills.

    1. Re: ... no business reason by IdeaMan · · Score: 1

      Actually there are 2 reasons.
      >They can paid directly to incorporate a third parties software in directly
      >They have to release version Y that improves on version X by adding this (as long as possible) list of new features.
      Doesn't matter if they are actually helpful or not, they go on the marketdroids list of features they can tout as new.
      Vista would have been accepted if it had just one killer feature.

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  16. non standard screws by artdwpmt · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Not specifically a tech issue, but affects numerous tech products as well.

    What really drives me nuts is non standard screws intended to prevent you from opening your device.
    (Unless of course you have the special magic screw driver.)

    I really hate these. I love opening things, to fix them or just for the fun of seeing how they're made.
    I bought it, it belongs to me, don't prevent me from trying to have a look inside if I want to.

    1. Re:non standard screws by UncleTogie · · Score: 1

      You can find sets to open most security screws for under $20.

      Example here....

      Glad to see Jaime advocating an alternative in the mainstream. Joe Six-Packs need to know the choice is there before they can make the choice.

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    2. Re:non standard screws by businessnerd · · Score: 2, Funny

      Amen to that!

      Just recently I came home to find a cockroach in the LCD panel of my microwave. A true "That's disgusting, but how the hell did he get in there!??!!" moment. Well of course my first thought is to grab can of raid, a screwdriver and open the microwave up. As I get to screw number 3, I realize that this is not your typical screw. In fact, there is no way for my multi-headed screw driver to unscrew it! So now I have no way of being able to look inside my microwave and see if it's just one roach, or if it's a whole nest.

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  17. You've missed the point by Weaselmancer · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...because we're on Slashdot. We all know what Jamie is saying is true.

    But he's near-famous. He has a show that millions of people watch. And he's saying that Vista blows, and why it blows, and that Ubuntu kicks its ass.

    And he's saying it in Popular Mechanics. You see those everywhere. My barber has a rack of them by his waiting bench. So does my doctor. You see PM magazines all over a doctor's waiting area.

    It's called getting the word out.

    A lot of us here on /. complain about how Joe Sixpack has no clue about computer issues. Well - now Joe Sixpack has an opportunity to be sitting in a dentist's office, and see a PM magazine with Jamie on the cover and think "Hey cool - think I'll read that. That's the show where they blow stuff up. It'll be interesting to hear what he has to say."

    And suddenly he's exposed to the problems with Vista, and the joys of Ubuntu by a person he respects and likes. Maybe he'll call up his geeky cousin later on in the day on Jamie's recommendation and ask him what this Ubuntu thingy is.

    This is how mindshare happens. A war is a million little battles, and we just won one.

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    rediculous.
    1. Re:You've missed the point by DariaM84 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I agree. Even for someone who's heard of Linux, sometimes the sheer number of distros out there can be overwhelming. Now this theoretical reader has a place to start.

    2. Re:You've missed the point by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful


      Explain precisely just how installing ubuntu can 'brick' your computer?

      It's only software, you idiot troll.

    3. Re:You've missed the point by d3ac0n · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Except that this is Ubuntu we are talking about. The Ubuntu forums are VERY newbie friendly, and very tightly moderated to eliminate forum trolls.

      Of course, if you had spent any time AT ALL on the Ubuntu forums, you would know that. The only people who generally don't get help are those that go in with a snotty, arrogant attitude. Although even they are OFFERED help, but their own attitude usually gets in the way of them being able to absorb it. I have myself been a Linux newbie, and have even recently, well out of my newbie stage, gotten stuck on an oddball issue now and again, and have always been able to find friendly and useful help on the Ubuntu forums.

      Honestly, that is what drew me to Ubuntu. While it is a very useful distro, I found the greatest draw was the near complete LACK of the classic Linux community snobbery that so often pervades web forums and IRC channels. Ubuntu users, particularly the more experienced ones, seem to be just generally nicer people.

      Of course, I have seen their moderators in action, and have seen flame posts vanish within moments of being posted. So I'm sure that a crack moderator staff has at least something to do with that. However, even THAT redounds well to Ubuntu. It shows that the community and Canonical understand that good PR is very often a key to success. And that the web forums are the Ubuntu community's public face. So they work hard to keep it looking good and working smoothly by stamping out any trolls and "cult of personality" types.

      Ok, I'll get off the fanboy soapbox for now. I guess I'm just saying that your point really has no merit, as it doesn't jibe with the reality of the Ubuntu forums that I have experienced on a regular basis.

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    4. Re:You've missed the point by cayenne8 · · Score: 1
      "More likely, he goes and fetches Ubuntu (or some other flavor-of-the-month distro), tries to install it - and ends of with a bricked computer."

      Bricked? I do not think that means what you think it means...

      :-)

      I've never known any OS install, even Windows, to 'brick' a computer. If the install doesn't work, you can always boot up with a different OS install disk...and put that on there.

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    5. Re:You've missed the point by cayenne8 · · Score: 1
      "Honestly, that is what drew me to Ubuntu. While it is a very useful distro, I found the greatest draw was the near complete LACK of the classic Linux community snobbery that so often pervades web forums and IRC channels. Ubuntu users, particularly the more experienced ones, seem to be just generally nicer people."

      Tho it is a bit more 'geekier', I found the Gentoo forums to ALWAYS be friendly and very helpful...to noobs and all. I seem to always get answers there almost immediately...and hardly anyone chides you if it is a question that's already been asked a number of times. At the worst...they'll give you a link to a thread with the solution or a webpage that tells you what to do..

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    6. Re:You've missed the point by oracle128 · · Score: 0

      Unfortunately, that issue of Popular Mechanic won't appear in the dentist's office for at least another 10 years.

    7. Re:You've missed the point by DerekLyons · · Score: 1

      Of course, in your fanboy gushing, you failed to adress all of my points. (Particularly the one pointing out that Ubuntu isn't the only distro.)

    8. Re:You've missed the point by DerekLyons · · Score: 0, Troll

      If you have to abort the install - you generally have a brick. I know damm well what it means. Not to mention the fact the average home user probably doesnt't have the install disks for his OS.

    9. Re:You've missed the point by richlv · · Score: 1

      well, there were some buggy cdrom drives (lg ?) that reacted weirdly on some command they should have ignored and some distro actually _could_ brick those computers (mandrake, i think) ;)

      ah, my memory sometimes works - http://news.zdnet.co.uk/software/0,1000000121,39117461,00.htm

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    10. Re:You've missed the point by Gandalf_Greyhame · · Score: 1

      How exactly does an aborted install create a brick? I distinctly recall installing a linux distro about 8 years ago (I cannot remember which distro, but I think it may have been mandrake) and the cds that I received from a friend of mine had an error. I was forced to abort the installation process, and then I simply popped in the installation disks of another distro (Redhat) and it installed and worked perfectly.

      Aborted install
      Not a brick

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    11. Re:You've missed the point by cayenne8 · · Score: 1

      I still don't think you have it. When you 'brick' a device...it will not work again...it is totally locked up and nothing will get it to work again. This happens when you mess up when updating firmware on things sometimes...but, a computer with a bad OS install, certainly will not brick it. The computer IS still recoverable, not bricked.

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    12. Re:You've missed the point by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      While I do like Mythbuster, and, I do believe that they try to get everything right, they are only human. Which bring me to my next point are you sure that this is good.

      Vista has been optimized for the next set of processors which will make is run slower with older processors; also provides a value/use for have having the newer equipment. On top of this, it supposedly has better security which implies that it might monitor itself more then the past operating system; again causing it to run slower. Movie editors, games, and other programs will only slow the system down if it's loaded during start up and stays loaded which means that most of the extra bells and whistles are only taking up space on the Hard Drive and/or giving you the idea that you are getting something for paying a higher cost.

      But saying that this is the cause of the slow performance is not entirely correct. I can fill up a hard drive with mp3 and still not see a significant slow down in system performer; assuming an appropriate swap file still exists and things along that nature. However, Jamie does not clarify what he means by bloat that affects the performance, the programs that load during startup that are not used or all program that he does not use. And while this is a problem, does it really address what is the main causing for the slow performance?

      To fix a problem or to get people to understand the problem, they need to at lest understand it to some level of correctness. Otherwise, how do you deal with the people that know and can say: Hay, you don't know what you're talking about! Hence, I don't need to listen to you!

      As for Vista, should they optimize the OS for several different processors? Are you will to pay more for this? Will you understand the cost/benefit related to doing this? Are you willing to pay more to get the newest OS running well on the older equipment? Microsoft might believe the answers are no. How would you address this issue?

      In either case, it helps to really understanding what is occurring and then use that knowledge to get them to chance their ideas to match what we want with out affecting the bottom line of their company. Making multiple optimization of the OS for different processors might make them more money because more people might/can use the OS without a lose of performance. But simply pointing out we don't want bloat might not lead to these questions and answers.

      So I ask you again, are you sure it helps by having them point out that bloat is bad?

  18. optimisation is always the last step by petes_PoV · · Score: 1
    The short product development cycles mean that there's a huge pressure to ship as soon as (or sometimes before) a product is functionally complete and relatively bug-free. That means there's no time in the schedule for optimising performance and reducing bloat.

    With very few exceptions, these aren't factors that make it onto the feature list.

    So far, this hasn't mattered too much as the performance of new PCs rises rapidly - what was a slow program on last year's box is fine on this year's. Great if you're buying new - no so great if your machine is a couple of years old.

    The ony solution I can think of would be to force developers to use less than bleeding edge hardware - but then development would slow down.

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  19. On the web: Pagination by corsec67 · · Score: 1

    Why do websites have to paginate stories? The scroll bar is there for a reason, why not let it do its thing? It is really annoying when I can read the sentence or paragraph you put on each page faster than it can load.

    I think a story or article should only be split into different pages when it is big enough to have different chapters. Since almost all news articles are way to short to have chapters, why try to split them up in an annoying way?

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    1. Re:On the web: Pagination by stormguard2099 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Why do websites have to paginate stories? for the same reason that people bloat up OSs. Money. More pages = more ads.
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    2. Re:On the web: Pagination by ragefan · · Score: 1

      Why do websites have to paginate stories? The scroll bar is there for a reason, why not let it do its thing? It is really annoying when I can read the sentence or paragraph you put on each page faster than it can load.

      I think a story or article should only be split into different pages when it is big enough to have different chapters. Since almost all news articles are way to short to have chapters, why try to split them up in an annoying way? Increased ad views, obviously. The more pages you click-thru to read the story, the more money the site makes from advertisers.

    3. Re:On the web: Pagination by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 1
      But couldn't you just show more ads on that single page? Seems like most web sites have a center column of text, and the right hand column is all ads. A long story would have lots of ads next to it - you get so many lines per ad, whether it's spread out over pages or not...

      If anything, I would think it would INCREASE ad revenue, as you would show ALL the ads for the story; if the story is not interesting and someone drops out half way through the pages, then you lose half your potential ad exposure. Putting all the ads on a single page - with the entire story - would seem to me to guarantee that EVERY ad for that story was seen (or potentially seen).

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    4. Re:On the web: Pagination by stormguard2099 · · Score: 1

      I think it has to do with load time at that point. I don't think the sites want people to have to wait that long for the pages to load. Perhaps I'm biased in this viewpoint because I have poor internet right now (sub-dialup durng the day)

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    5. Re:On the web: Pagination by zippthorne · · Score: 1

      You know, it actually wouldn't be so bad if they were split such that one page really was only a single page. In other words, if they kept their article and cruft down to fit a single "page" into an average sized browser window with NO scrolling. Then you could hover your mouse over the next page button and click when ready.

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  20. Wouldn't fix the problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    PC manafacturers are PAID to put that bloatware on the computers. They would do the same thing to Linux too. They would be just as fine with selling the hardware at a higher price and nothing else on it. Dell and HP and the like only pay around $30 for windows

  21. Car locks by Intron · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Not only do you get locked in automatically, but the other weird thing that they did was the "only unlock the driver door" feature. Now I always have to hit the button 3 times to make sure I have unlocked the tailgate. Once should open all of the doors by default. If I want the new, magic driver-door-only feature it should be a configuration option someplace.

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    1. Re:Car locks by vux984 · · Score: 1

      but the other weird thing that they did was the "only unlock the driver door" feature. Now I always have to hit the button 3 times to make sure I have unlocked the tailgate.

      The idea is that its more secure this way.

      Picture the scenario... "woman gets into car in dark parking lot... car automatically unlocks... stalker/weirdo/freak hinding behind the car climbs in on the passenger side when she unlocks the door..."

      And countless variations on the theme. Rapists. Carjackings. Whatever.

      How much validity you give to the likelyhood of this feature ever stopping an attack is up to you... but its a feature people wanted, that showed up in polls and focus groups.

    2. Re:Car locks by smooth+wombat · · Score: 1
      The idea is that its more secure this way.


      DING DING DING!!!! You are correct. My mom was talking about this very subject last week. Her Honda has door locks which you can unlock from the inside. You can unlock the driver or passenger door individually by hand or the driver can use the switch to unlock all the doors at once.

      She mentioned that she is no longer able to lock/unlock just her driver door by using the lock. When it gets taken in for its yearly checkup, she wants the place to look at her driver-side door lock. My dad claims there's no problem but obviously since it no longer works like it used to, there is a problem.

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    3. Re:Car locks by businessnerd · · Score: 1

      it should be a configuration option someplace.
      Actually, check your owners manual. On my Dad's '06 Audi A4, the onboard computer allowed you to configure the door locks. You could change the feature you gripe about above as well as the auto-locking features most cars have, where when you start the car (or after exceeding a certain spead) the doors all automatically lock. I think my VW has the same thing, but I haven't sat down to mess with the setup yet.
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    4. Re:Car locks by ArcticFlood · · Score: 1

      The automatic locking system is somewhat configurable in all the cars my family had with power locks. It's in the owner's manual, but it usually involves holding a button on the radio while turning it on.

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    5. Re:Car locks by IdeaMan · · Score: 0, Troll

      Help her get a concealed carry permit.
      Not only does it make her safe, it makes everyone else safer too.

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    6. Re:Car locks by bradinthehouse · · Score: 1

      Most cars that I've seen with this feature allow you to change how it's configured. I can configure my car to lock/unlock in several different combinations, including unlocking driver first, passengers second, as well as all at once the first time. Should be in the owners manual somewhere. If it doesn't have that option, it'd be an interesting hack!

    7. Re:Car locks by ctr2sprt · · Score: 1

      My car's approach is that pulling on the door handle twice from the inside will unlock (and open) the door. I wouldn't precisely call it intuitive, but it doesn't take long to figure out either. Actually, I think it is intuitive, it's just that people are so used to having to unlock the doors another way (push a button, flip a switch, pull a knob, whatever) that they don't expect it and therefore become confused.

      BMW's rationale is that when you're in a panic situation -- on fire, sinking in a lake, etc. -- you're just going to pull on the handle until the door opens. It's a pretty decent idea. The problem, and it's a big one, is that it's probably electrical. So if the car loses power for some reason, you wouldn't be able to open the door. It could probably be done mechanically, though. For all I know it is.

    8. Re:Car locks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      On most cars it is a option, the European market has it disabled because, well, car theft by hijacking after opening is less common. (People don't use their remote as a homing device)

    9. Re:Car locks by ps236 · · Score: 1

      I've seen some cars where it's not user-configurable, but the dealership can still change it for you if you want.

  22. Tool Batteries by QuantumRiff · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I liked his Idea of tools using 6V battery packs. I got several tools out in the shop, a few 18V, a few 12V, one or two 7.2v, etc. Even the 3 18V tools have different battery packs, with different chargers. A huge portion of the back of my workbench (near the wall) is nothing but chargers. I would love to have a standardized version of the battery packs.

    Half the time, I don't even need the power of the 18V drill, I just need a bit of Juice to turn a bunch of screws. Wouldn't it be slick to pop in 3 6v Batteries, and be able to toggle a switch to choose between connecting them in serial or parallel? IE, more power, or longer lasting battery?

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    1. Re:Tool Batteries by prockcore · · Score: 1

      Simplest solution: corded tools. I have no need for a cordless tool that's going to have a dead battery in a year.

  23. Deliberate by Sloppy · · Score: 4, Informative

    Most of these annoyances are very deliberate. HDMI is intended to be non-interoperable and failure-prone. OEM Windows preloads contain extra bloatware because bloatware makers paid to have their crap installed. Tools use nonstandard battery packs, in order to sell proprietary replacement packs.

    These aren't engineering failures. They are just examples of products that are made to serve interests other than the user's.

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    1. Re:Deliberate by Kaptain+Kruton · · Score: 3, Informative

      He wasn't describing them as "engineering failures." He was describing them as annoying or troublesome when used for his purposes. There is a big difference.

    2. Re:Deliberate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      RTFA again. He talking about the art, or lack there of, of engineering, and how stuff is engineered today makes him cry.

  24. Annoying cars by JBMcB · · Score: 1

    Cars are a PITA to maintain these days because, to increase efficiency and meet emissions regulations, they have to be lighter and have tightly controlled combustion. The lighter bit means smaller, meaning smaller engine compartments, meaning more difficult to access and repair engines. The tightly controlled combustion means computer controlled fuel injection, and sensors everywhere for feedback.

    I don't care much about fixing engines - they are so complex these days you're SOL if you don't have an ODBCII kit (or, heaven forbid, a CAN or MOST bus analyzer - $$$$!!!) My pet peeve is the loss of real, honest-to-god bumpers. Nowadays if you tap a cement parking block going more than a couple miles per hour, you crack your front fascia, and get to spend $600 buying a new one. Ugh.

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    1. Re:Annoying cars by vortigern00 · · Score: 1

      The exception to this is (for now, anyway) American-made trucks. I got rear-ended really hard the other day by another Ford truck. We got out, looked at our undamaged bumpers, grinned at each other, and drove away :)

      -Vort

    2. Re:Annoying cars by Beefslaya · · Score: 2, Informative

      Just purchased a 2001 Subaru Forester.

      1. I can change the plugs, wires, ignition module, fuses, relays, sensors, alternator...and other various devices and gadgets. Because they are on top of the engine compartment, or placed within easy reach behind the dash.
      2. I can open the hood, and actually see the ground by looking on either side (you would have to remove the skid protector on the front, but if you did you could see the ground). Plenty of room.
      3. I can change the oil myself because the oil filter is conveniently located in the front of the engine within arms reach.
      4. I can do most of the vehicle maintenance and repairs with 4 tools or less. (10-12mm sockets, #2 Phillips screwdriver, and a can of WD-40)

      I test drove many newer Subaru's before this one and noticed that not many changes have been made to this design. All the same...2.5L H4 Boxer engine (turbo chargers may add some extra fiddling due to the extra goodies on the intakes).

      -Fuel efficient
      -Tough mechanics
      -Plenty of gadgets (heated seats, thermometers, barometers, altimeters, levels, CD changers, cabin air filters) All of these things can be easily done by the consumer if they RTFM and know how to turn a screwdriver.
      -Stick with what works

      Subaru's are designed this way for easy repairs (because you may not be near your local Subaru dealer when you take the vehicle to the places it is designed to go).

      Mr. Hyneman's point is that engineers are neglectful of the needs of their consumers. Subaru has done an excellent job at "keeping it real" on the issue of End User maintenance.

      Consumers need to do much more research when it comes to their vehicle purchases.

    3. Re:Annoying cars by AmeerCB · · Score: 1

      I realize engine compartments are small for a reason, but it seems to me that good design would allow the most frequently serviced components to be more accessible. I'm just talking filters/brake pads/etc here. I'm an engineer, but have never worked for the auto industry, so I'm just speculating here.

      I spent ~15 hours replacing a water pump a few months ago (on a V6 with a timing chain, and I don't have a lift or anything other than the standard homeowner's tools). I realize this is in a weird spot because it will probably only be touched once or twice during the car's lifetime (unless you drive imports, and then maybe 3 or 4 times....take that, american cars!). But I change my oil filter 4-5 times a year! Why should I have to jack up my car and take my tire off to get to it?

    4. Re:Annoying cars by AmeerCB · · Score: 1

      I would agree with you that consumers need to do their research before buying a car. But this does not excuse manufacturers from putting some time and thought into their designs.

      If I buy a high-performance car, I don't expect it to be easily maintainable. But your standard family sedan should be.

    5. Re:Annoying cars by coredog64 · · Score: 1

      You do realized that purposes of CAFE, Subaru classifies that vehicle as an SUV and not a car.
      That makes you one of those reviled-on-Slashdot SUV-driving-motherf**kers who are in league with Osama Bin Laden
      and/or GWBush and/or the Trilateral Comission for a New World Order.

    6. Re:Annoying cars by Beefslaya · · Score: 1

      True...true...

      However, short of driving a battery assisted/powered piece of shit that has no cargo room, I think I did pretty well for picking a vehicle that has exceptional mileage (for an AWD @ 27mpg) and relatively low emissions.

      I don't think that the Forester falls into the "I can't see around this fucking thing", "10mpg", "mouse driving a school bus", "she can't see over the hood to see the puppies she's squashing" type of vehicle.

      I do, however, have a small business that requires me to be available for on-site service, 24-7, deliver servers and larger equipment, regardless of the weather (Great Lakes).

      Prius hardly delivers. They can go hump a tree (preferable a large Conifer).

    7. Re:Annoying cars by Beefslaya · · Score: 1

      Are you referring to these types of 30-40mph crashes?

      Ford F-150
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lB0araA0T_k

      Chevy Silverado
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WmypX2RUPY&NR=1

    8. Re:Annoying cars by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 1

      I lvoe my old 1963 Mercury Comet Custom (with the 260 V8) for this very reason. A flat blade screwdriver, a crescent wrench, and a claw hammer are all you need to fix ANYTHING on that car. It's a joy to work on something like it. And it is as reliable as any other car out there...

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    9. Re:Annoying cars by sjames · · Score: 1

      The problem has been growing for some time and it is NOT just because the car must be smaller and lighter! It is all about the designers not really giving a crap that you may have to pull the engine to change a lousy spark plug.

      For example, not being able to pull the radio, instrument cluster etc out through the front of the dash has nothing to do with saving weight. There is no reason to need to dis-assemble anything to replace the battery. In-tank fuel pumps should have an access panel in the trunk. It wouldn't necessarily add weight to do that but it would avoid having to drain the tank and jack it down from underneath.

      When I worked on a friend's Volvo, while the parts were way too expensive, the car was plainly designed to be worked on. Instead of an expensive interface and proprietary software, diagnostic codes are accessed through a small led in the engine compartment that blinks out any error codes when you press a button. The brake calipers are designed so you can just remove one bolt and flip them up to replace the pads (using the front bolt as a pivot point). There's a slot you can fit a large screwdriver into giving you a lever to compress the piston.

    10. Re:Annoying cars by couchslug · · Score: 1

      "In-tank fuel pumps should have an access panel in the trunk."

      Damn right, ditto truck beds that block pump access. More than one Chevy bed has been treated to a home-cut pump access hole after the owner tired of changing pumps by dropping the tank.

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    11. Re:Annoying cars by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow those videos are awesome, you can see how incredibly well the crumple zones are designed in the new trucks.

      Only problem with those videos is they don't show the zone around the drivers feet not crumpling.

      Posting anonymously so that my attempt at provoking thought in the reader is not dismissed as trolling or mere sarcasm.

    12. Re:Annoying cars by Beefslaya · · Score: 1

      We know who you are... :)

      The bad thing is that once an accident like this happens at 20-30mph, the $30,000+ truck is destroyed, scrap metal. The frames can't be restored. (This includes backing into a post, tree, or other object you may find on a farm).

      The next time you are flying down the highway at 60mph in the snow, because you have 4WD, remember that vid. You may have 4WD but you still only have 4 brakes. ;)

      (Just a pet peave of mine)

    13. Re:Annoying cars by vortigern00 · · Score: 1

      Damn straight! Although I must admit I find it hilarious when some dork in a 4wd blows past me on an icy road, and 5 miles later I see his smug butt in the ditch :)

      Both of my trucks are rear wheel drive (read: one wheel drive). They are a bitch and a half on the ice.

      My favorite trick is to load the bed up with packed snow instead of sand. Then when it thaws the snow goes away on its own and I don't have to unload the sand :)

      -Vort

    14. Re:Annoying cars by vortigern00 · · Score: 1

      No, actually it was closer to 10mph, and there was literally NO damage to either vehicle. My point was basically that in an impact where the bumpers don't NEED to crumple to protect the occupant, they shouldn't.

      If I someone hits me at 30mph, I expect there to be a good bit of damage.

      If I hit a cement barricade like the one in the video at 30-40mph, I expect the truck to be destroyed. I do not know whether a little car would hold up better in such situations, but consumer reports et al suggest they would.

      -Vort

  25. a small 5A fuse to a 10A fuse by wiredog · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I hope you upgraded the wiring. I have scars (well, one) from a wire that was undersized for the load. It started to melt. Across the fuel line...

    1. Re:a small 5A fuse to a 10A fuse by noidentity · · Score: 1

      Oh come on, it's just a conspiracy by the wire manufacturers. Hell, if I put a 100A fuse, I could power the whole block with an extension cord! I haven't tried it, but I'm sure it'll work, where else is that amperage limit other than what's printed on the fuse? What, the fuse is there so it's the weakest link in case too much power is drawn? Hmmm...

  26. Re:Brilliant! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What's the point of Ubuntu again? Is it to be super-power user now? And here I was thinking it was supposed to be linux that your grandma could use. It's not quite there yet, but that's the point of Ubuntu, and it's getting pretty close.

  27. Well, if they ever get low on cash... by Weaselmancer · · Score: 4, Funny

    It says of her on the Mythbusters website: Sculptor, painter, actor and one-time-only backside-model.

    I guess that was the airplane toilet episode. I wonder whatever happened to that model Jamie made...

    I can only imagine what that'd bring on eBay.

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  28. Re:Things will be getting simpler, and are already by russ1337 · · Score: 1

    At home, we have a DC run throughout the house wherever we upgraded our power, and I'm seriously thinking of changing it to USB charging. AC in the home is useful, but so many devices use DC (and the dreaded overheating wall-warts!) that I'm shocked that more devices aren't standardizing on DC. 18V, 5A+, not a big deal -- but so many devices could use it (charging tools, video games, cell phones, even some computer monitors). Simple, without needed ANOTHER heat-generating and wasting transformer. My laptop is DC, too, yet I need the darned transformer throughout the house.
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  29. old news. by magnusrex1280 · · Score: 1

    I read this in the actual print magazine, some time ago. Besides being old, it's not really "news" anyway.

  30. It's not an oversight ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If the carmakers can install all those oh-so-convenient comfort controls, do they really need to make me do gymnastics to change the oil?

    Yes - because they don't want you to change the oil.

    What they want you to do is to go to the dealer to change the oil, or the battery, or do maintainance. Basically, for anything other than filling up the tank and emptying the cup holders, they want you to go to the dealer or "authorized service center" (which paid big bucks for the authorization), so they can supplement their revenue stream. As an added benefit, the harder it is to do service on the car, the longer it takes, and the more they can charge for labor costs.

    And if the car is off warranty or you bought the car used? Well, you should just buy a new car then, shouldn't you?

  31. Re:Brilliant! by Em+Adespoton · · Score: 1

    This is actually a good question with a number of good answers:
    1) If the ignorant masses complain in the wrong places, they'll get flamed.
    2) More exposure to the ignorant masses might actually IMPROVE Ubuntu. Once we see what people actually want, someone can adapt the OS so that they can HAVE what they want (even if it is a point and click interface to 10 apps). With Windows, they just keep complaining and people make money charging them $5/minute to tell them to go buy a new computer to upgrade to the latest version of Windows.

  32. Re:Things will be getting simpler, and are already by chrismcdirty · · Score: 1

    I ran out of wiper fluid two days ago (lots of snow in Chicago lately), and I sat there thinking how lame it is that the wiper fluid reservoir doesn't have a simple sensor to detect low fluid (it's a 2001 vehicle, not THAT old).

    Sure, you may think you want it to notify you of this now, but try driving an Alero around. Anything that might be a problem, it notifies me. Every time I start the car, there is a bell and a light that doesn't turn off until the problem is corrected. Is it useful? Slightly. Does it need to blink and ring every time I turn the key? Definitely not.
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  33. The obvoius counterpoint by drsmithy · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Since most Linux OSs are free, there's no business reason to bloat up the system with feature frills.'"

    Since most Linux OSes are free, there's no business reason for them to deliver features people want (and hence are prepared to pay for).

    1. Re:The obvoius counterpoint by MikeBabcock · · Score: 1

      Since Linux OSs are developed by users and not paid employees, there's a tendancy for them to support everything those types of users could possibly want.

      In general, that's a lot.

      If you have a specific itch, scratch it, or pay a developer to do it.

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    2. Re:The obvoius counterpoint by stackdump · · Score: 1

      There is also no business reason for free software to exist right? -- oh wait, support! So there you have it

  34. And... by Kuukai · · Score: 1

    To show their gratitude to Jamie for all the free publicity, Ubuntu has announced that their next version will be "Mythical Mongoose!"

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  35. Failures of standartization by mi · · Score: 1

    After all, you don't buy a Chevy battery to start a Chevrolet.

    No, but wheels are almost unique to each model — replacing Geo Prizm with a Honda Fit, for example, forced us to replace our set of winter wheels/tires recently... While we have some decent standards already — the AC current, the bed-sizes, for example, too many things remain non-standardized. DC power is the most obvious example. Although Research-in-Motion and Nokia should be praised for trying to cut down on the number of different adapters, that is still not enough:

    The Open Mobile Terminal Platform (omtp.org) is supported by a number of manufacturers that would like to see the micro USB become the standard connector. It's too early to know if they will succeed; let's hope they do.

    Woo-hoo! If that reduces the number of "bricks" around, great. But I look forward to just having standard DC-outlets next to the AC ones...

    Strangely enough, the MythBusters folks don't mention the maddening diversity of screws and bolts. Even inside a computer there are several different size. Oh, and they sometimes differ in the shape of the required driver too, not just length and diameter...

    I doubt this is done on purpose, in order to secure future income for the company by producing the parts — computer-makers neither make nor sell the screws, for example. It is just a designer creating, what they think is ideal for the task, instead of picking up what's good enough and already available...

    Computer-software vendors, BTW, suffer from the same problem — how many application-specific programming languages were created even after John Ousterhout's famous lamentation?... Even if there are some of them, which are better than Ousterhout's TCL (or Perl, or Python, or JavaScript, or whatever general purpose language you prefer), are they so much better as to justify forcing users to learn yet another language?

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  36. It's not the question about WHO but WHAT. by Z00L00K · · Score: 1
    This will be a lot of barfing about similar subjects, you have been warned!

    And I see that Mr Hyneman has a point here. Jamie and Adam seems to be two guys that just happened to get well-known. They didn't really plan on being world famous and I doubt that they make a lot of dough off their persons (with exception for the occasional exploding dough-can).

    What we all know, but is pointed out by the article is that it's often not the engineers that does the stupid things it's the economy bean-counters that thinks that a saved cent there can make the car no different from before but cheaper. (OK, there are engineer screwups too, so they aren't entirely blameless). Maybe there are at least a few persons that actually reads the article since it's written by a well-known dude.

    And I really understand the point behind a 'nag' button. Who wouldn't wanted one one time or another? (but I understand that a seatbelt warning for the driver may be permitted to nag.) And the need for removal of a wheel just to replace the battery seems to be one of those moments... It's almost worth an episode of it's own! And there are a few other problems aside the battery and it's changing bulbs and filling oil on the car. Whenever you try to fill up the oil you will invariably drool it on every other part of the engine too, just because you have a distance between the bottle opening and the engine opening of maybe half a foot, and when you need it most you don't have a funnel...

    Operating systems are all bug-filled and bloated over the edge, which we all know by now so nothing new. The cordless tool and phone charger issue is right on the spot! There are far too many variations of batteries and chargers, but when you open up the inside you will find that they actually pack the same Sony Cells or whatever electronics and that it's just the packaging and contacts that are different.

    And it's always funny to see all the variations of specifications of batteries and things too. There is an international standard that specifies penlight batteries (LR03, LR6, LR14, LR20 etc, but often the more illogical AA, AAA etc. is used, which for the untrained gives a complete loss of information.)

    Even worse is the gauge of wires where a higher number means a thinner wire, which is extremely illogical. Measure the area instead, 1.5 mm2, 2.5 mm2.

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  37. Re:Brilliant! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you want something *nix-based that's compliant with grandma standards, use OS X.

    Ubuntu/Linux in general is not ready for the home desktop. The problem isn't necessarily with the distro, but the userbase. Ubuntu attracts all the Windows users who ruin everything. Linux is pretty damn easy to use, even something CLI-based like Arch, after some research - the problem is, nobody wants to do that anymore.

    Put simply, the majority of ubuntu users are those who want to be spoonfed while they thump their chests for being so awesome because they have a Linux box.

  38. Car Maintenance by AmeerCB · · Score: 1

    I am with him on car maintenance. There is no reason I should have to remove my tire to get to my oil filter (anyone else owned an accord in the past 15 years? You'd think they would have fixed this by now).

    Filters, fuses, spark plugs, brakes, and rotors at the bare minimum should be EASILY accessible and replaceable.

    And what about diagnostics computers? Why do I need a seperate component to read the error code? I owned a '95 maxima that allowed you to hold the computer's button for a few seconds and, after doing so, the engine light would give you a sequence of long-short pulses. You could look this sequence up in a manual to determine what the error code meant. All car diagnostic computers should have features like this.

  39. Re:Things will be getting simpler, and are already by Technician · · Score: 5, Informative

    In my car I tossed the 12V "cigarette lighter" from the dash to the truck. I also increased its power from a small 5A fuse to a 10A fuse, so I can run a reasonably sized 120V inverter (also in the trunk) to power a few devices on-the-go.


    Drawing twice the power than the wire was fused for is a good way to need another car soon. Unless you also upgraded the wire, I wouldn't recommend changing the fuse size.

    I have a reasonably sized inverter in my trunk also, next to the battery. 1KW will power most anything except hair dryers you care to bring along.

    At home, we have a DC run throughout the house wherever we upgraded our power,

    This is not a good idea. Volts X Amps = Watts in DC circuits. To run a 100 watt laptop cross the house on 12 volts with less than 10% voltage drop requires a huge wire. Do the math.

    http://www.otherpower.com/cgi-bin/webbbs/webbbs_config.pl?noframes;read=6346

    Don't forget a 50 foot cord is a 100 foot DC path.

    To cut your loss in the wire by 100 as in a 10$ loss is now a 0.1% loss, go from 12 volts to 120 volts. That is the simple reason for the big inverter in the trunk. I can run a 100 foot 14 AWG extension cord and have less than 1% voltage drop in the cord to a 100 Watt laptop.

    From the page "14AWG = .00297 ohms / foot". Doing the math, a 100 foot 14 gauge extension cord is 200 feet of wire with a resistance of .00297 ohms per foot. 0.00297 X 200 = 0.594 ohms. To get 100 Watts at the far end of the wire at 12 volts, you need to deliver 8 and 1/3 amps. That amprage going on that almost .6 ohm wire will have a voltage loss of 0.594 X 8.3333 or 4.9499 volts. To get 12 volts out, you need to put in 12 + 4.9499 volts. Volts X Amps in the wire is the power lost.. Let's see, lost 4.94 volts along 200 feet while carying 8.3333 amps. That's 41 Watts. In short to drive a 100 watt load, you toss out almost 1/3rd of your power in the wire.

    Now using the same cord and laptop but now using 120 volts. Instead of needing 8.3333 amps for the 100 watts, we now need 1/10 of that or 0.8333 amps. Our voltage loss is now 1/10th what it was or 0.49499 volts at 1/10th the current. We now lose 1/100th the power in the wire we were before while still delivering 100 watts to the laptop. Now the wire has a loss of 0.41 Watts. I don't need to boost anything to make up for it.

    I'm shocked that more devices aren't standardizing on DC. 18V, 5A+, not a big deal -- but so many devices could use it (charging tools, video games, cell phones, even some computer monitors). Simple, without needed ANOTHER heat-generating and wasting transformer. My laptop is DC, too, yet I need the darned transformer throughout the house.

    Do the math and you won't be shocked at all. I would rather lose 5 watts in a laptop power supply than 40 watts in the 50 foot wire from the battery fuse box to the laptop.

    I've standardized on 120 VAC for almost everything. As a bonus, I don't have to buy special 12 volt CF bulbs at $15 each. I can use the buck a bulb ones instead. It's all about saving money. A 1 KW inverter is chaep and can be located very close to the battery to keep loss minimum in the low voltage wire.

    http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=11234952&search=inverter&Mo=13&cm_re=1_en-_-Top_Left_Nav-_-Top_search&lang=en-US&Nr=P_CatalogName:BC&Sp=S&N=5000043&whse=BC&Dx=mode+matchallpartial&Ntk=Text_Search&Dr=P_CatalogNam

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  40. Re:Things will be getting simpler, and are already by smellsofbikes · · Score: 1

    >First, vehicle information is very proprietary. Why is it that cars can't report status information via a simple USB connection?

    Build yourself one of these. It's an OBDII-to-USB converter. It still requires *extensive* software on the computer side, but you're already talking about having that. On-board vehicle diagnostics are fairly complicated, but there are plenty of programs that handle it, many for free.

    I agree it'd be nice to have sensors to detect fluid levels... but until sensors are more reliable, you might start relying on something that has broken and end up in trouble. In my car, the wiper washers are plumbed such that when you're just about out of washer fluid, the rear window pump stops working, which is clever and avoids having to add an extra sensor.

    It would be nice to see more electronics that used USB connectors to get power, if they can stay under half an amp. It'd also be nice to see more wall-warts with some sort of load-detection circuitry and a solid-state relay so if they're not being used, they disconnect the transformer/switching PS from the AC so it doesn't sit there sucking up power.

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  41. Standards and poor design choices by Emetophobe · · Score: 4, Informative
    His first four points are all about a lack of standards:

    1. Cordless tools and equipment--all with different kinds of battery packs and chargers.
    2. Flashlights and other small electrical devices that run on exotic batteries.
    3. Cellphones that all come with different chargers and power-supply units.
    4. AV equipment that has different types of hookups and remote-control protocols.

    And his other three points are all about bloat and poor design choices:

    5. Computer operating systems loaded with stuff I don't want and will never use.
    6. Automobiles with obnoxious electronics.
    7. Cars designed to make it tough to do maintenance.

    Overall he makes some pretty good points.

    In response to his first three complaints, I don't think companies will ever give up their non-standard battery packs... they make too much money on replacement batteries.

    As for complaint #4, I thought AV equipment was pretty well standardized already. All of my TV and AV equipment accept the same types of audio cables. I'd agree with his point about remotes though. I've never owned a "universal remote" that "just worked".

    In complaint #5, Jamie is mainly complaining about the bloat in Windows (more specifically Vista). I think the problem is that Operating Systems like Windows have to be designed with a wide user base in mind, so they have to have features that only 10% of the users would use. It would be nice if Microsoft actually made a modular OS where I could uninstall everything that I don't use (Outlook and IE for example). I have to give Jamie props for advocating Linux in the article.

    Here's a quote from complaint #5 which I totally agree with:

    And high-tech companies--stop messing with us on your treadmill of upgrades while making the old stuff obsolete. It may be that any software company that didn't routinely upgrade its product would go out of business. But what if the rest of the world worked this way? Oh, I lost a sock. I need to get a whole new wardrobe because the replacement sock is version 2.0.1, and the stores now only sell version 2.0.3.

    His main complaint in #6 is that he doesn't like cars that beep at him to buckle his seatbelt and he doesn't like cars that auto-lock the doors. Personally, I don't mind these features, but I can understand why someone might find them annoying. As for all the other electronics going in cars nowadays, I don't mind them. If you've ever driven in a BMW, you'd probably fall in love with all of the electronics. Whenever I drive in my toyota, I'm constantly adjusting the temperature as it's always fluctuating between too hot or too cold (I can never seem to find that comfort zone). But in a Beamer, I can set the temperature to 22C and forget about it. Some electronics I can live without, like those onboard navigation screens, but others I tend to enjoy.

    And finally, complaint #7 is all about poor design choices (in cars). Here's his example of a bad design: "One late-model sedan I worked on required the removal of a front wheel, plus a bunch of other stuff, just to replace the battery". I'm not a mechanic, and I have little to no experience under the hood, but are a lot of cars really designed this poorly? I can't think of any car where I actually had to remove a tire just to change the battery (Does anyone know what car Jamie was talking about?).

    1. Re:Standards and poor design choices by hackstraw · · Score: 1

      His first four points are all about a lack of standards:

      1. Cordless tools and equipment--all with different kinds of battery packs and chargers.
      2. Flashlights and other small electrical devices that run on exotic batteries.
      3. Cellphones that all come with different chargers and power-supply units.
      4. AV equipment that has different types of hookups and remote-control protocols.


      Wasn't stuff like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interchangeable_parts noted as a mark of progress?

      With household stuff (plumbing, wires, 2x4s, doors, etc), its amazing how interchangable these things are. I don't know if there is an external standards behind it, or if they just evolved that way.

      I can't think of any car where I actually had to remove a tire just to change the battery (Does anyone know what car Jamie was talking about?).

      Either its an urban legand, or something, but I've heard where there is a fairly popular car that you need to remove the front tire to do at least some basic maintenance -- ah, google seems to know http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_do_you_replace_a_battery_in_a_2001_Dodge_Stratus

    2. Re:Standards and poor design choices by thesolo · · Score: 1

      His main complaint in #6 is that he doesn't like cars that beep at him to buckle his seatbelt and he doesn't like cars that auto-lock the doors. Personally, I don't mind these features, but I can understand why someone might find them annoying. As for all the other electronics going in cars nowadays, I don't mind them. If you've ever driven in a BMW, you'd probably fall in love with all of the electronics.

      Not lately you won't. One of the more recent changes in BMWs & Mini Coopers are seat pressure sensors in the passenger seat. Jamie was mentioning these when he talked about buckling in a box.

      My best mate has a 2007 Mini Cooper. If it detects any weight on the passenger seat, it enables the passenger airbag & puts up a seat belt warning on the dash, and produces a chime. Seems reasonable, until you realise that it's set so sensitively that even putting a slightly heavy backpack on the seat will make the belt chime go off. My laptop bag sets it off, and I don't know any person that weighs as little as my laptop (if you had a small child, they should be in a car seat in the back). A bag with a few heavy books sets it off too, or a small dog, or any other cargo.

      And the most annoying part about it is that they've routed the chimes through the stereo system, so it's not something you can easily drown out or ignore with a good song. Instead it plays the chime over your music. You can imagine how annoying it is to set your bag down on the seat next to you, turn on a good song, and have it interrupted by "DING DING DING! DING DING DING!", literally every 3 seconds, until you either move said parcel to the floor (not always an option) or buckle it in.

      Jeremy Clarkson of Top Gear is always complaining about the computer systems in new BMWs and how they're simply too complex and do too much thinking for you, and I agree. We've gone too far into the obtrusive tech zone, and we need to take a few steps back.

    3. Re:Standards and poor design choices by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well...

      You don't have to remove the wheel, but to change the battery in my mid-90's dodge stratus you DO have to crank the wheel to right, because the only way to get the battery out is through the driver-side wheel well, after removing the inside fender cover.

      I also had an early 90's Ford, where the battery was easy enough to get to, but one of the sparkplugs had to be accesed through the wheel well.

      ABIL

    4. Re:Standards and poor design choices by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I believe the car in question is the Sebring. I don't know if they still design their cars this way, but as late as 2002 you needed to remove the tire, mudflaps, and inner wheel well to get at the battery. I've never had to do it, but I hear it is quite annoying.

    5. Re:Standards and poor design choices by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      I know my 1998 Dodge Stratus requires you to remove the tire to change the battery. Dodge said the advantages are:

      1) By keeping the battery away from the heat of the engine it would last longer

      2) By moving the battery to the "fender" area the engine compartment is smaller and the passenger compartment is larger

      I have not found it annoying. As an engineer I like seeing every bit of space used, I also don't change my own battery anymore. I just go to a car battery store and have them replace the battery. I have better things to do with my time than tinker with the car, though I know some people enjoy it, I tinker with my house.

    6. Re:Standards and poor design choices by Anti_Climax · · Score: 1

      I can't think of any car where I actually had to remove a tire just to change the battery
      I know on the old Chevy Astrovans you had to take off the front wheels to change the spark plugs.

      I don't recall the model, but I was asked to jump a vehicle that left it's lights on (you'd think headlight auto-off would be more common these days) and under the hood was an almost complete plastic cover blocking everything. No battery was visible, nor was there an apparent means of removing the plastic cover to find one. When I finally break down and get a new car, something like that will be a real consideration.
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    7. Re:Standards and poor design choices by Jeff+DeMaagd · · Score: 1

      I think the car battery thing was a gripe about the Intrepid that they had on the show. Car batteries usually last a pretty long time, and they pack a lot of stuff under the hood, so it's probably not that terrible of a place to put it. I think they do provide jump-start terminals right under the hood.

    8. Re:Standards and poor design choices by smellsofbikes · · Score: 4, Insightful

      >I think the problem is that Operating Systems like Windows have to be designed with a wide user base in mind, so they have to have features that only 10% of the users would use.

      Sort of.
      It's more that Windows is designed with a wider base of user *experience* in mind -- they hand you everything and you use it. A la carte, the *nix way, is great if the user knows enough to go decide what's needed. My linux system can load drivers for stuff Windows has never heard of: Amiga file system management, USB-to-serial IC's. But 90% of the people who use computers will never need any of that, so the Windows system of one-package-to-rule-them-all, one-package-to-bind-them works great. But just try to get support or drivers working on Windows for any hardware that's not sold at Best Buy. (I bought a Philips webcam a while back. It works with Windows98. There is no other version of Windows that can work with it. But a tiny bit of tweaking and my linux systems, one from 9 years ago and one brand-new, could both handle it.)

      >I'm not a mechanic, and I have little to no experience under the hood, but are a lot of cars really designed this poorly?

      Other people have already talked about the specific case of the battery behind the wheel. Things I've seen on cars I've worked on: having to remove the wheel to change the oil filter, on a Saturn; having to remove part of the power steering booster to change the rearmost spark plug, on an Oldsmobile; and having to wrap the CV boots with plastic bags before removing the oil filter so it doesn't drip on them and dissolve the rubber seals, on a Subaru. I've been told that on some rear-engine Porsches you had to remove the engine to change the spark plugs, and on some '85-90 Corvettes you had to remove part of the intake manifold to change the spark plugs. On my dad's '64 Ford, there were no hydraulic lifters, so every 3000 miles or thereabouts, I had to relash the valves -- manually adjust for the wear in the valve train. I had to do that on my '84 Nissan, actually, but then all the clearances were quoted cold, so that wasn't too bad. On my '71 Datsun, they were quoted hot, so you'd run the engine, then quickly pull off the valve cover and start measuring clearances between really hot pieces of metal, trying to adjust them accurately. But the '64 Ford was the king of annoyance, because the adjustment was specified WHILE THE ENGINE WAS RUNNING. You want a bad time: try adjusting a nice hot threaded bolt with a locknut, while it's jerking through about 15 degrees of movement 400 times a minute, while hot oil is spraying out of the valve train lubrication lines, and you have to feed a feeler gauge between the bottom of the bolt and the top of the pushrod during the brief moment they're not in contact. Oh, and the cam was sufficiently aggressive that at idle the car was continuously backfiring through the carburetor so there were occasional blasts of flame from right in front of you.
      Compared to that, what's a little hassle like removing a wheel to replace the battery? I was so glad to see that car go, even if it did have the hottest engine Detroit ever made.

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    9. Re:Standards and poor design choices by merreborn · · Score: 1

      And high-tech companies--stop messing with us on your treadmill of upgrades while making the old stuff obsolete. It may be that any software company that didn't routinely upgrade its product would go out of business. But what if the rest of the world worked this way? Oh, I lost a sock. I need to get a whole new wardrobe because the replacement sock is version 2.0.1, and the stores now only sell version 2.0.3.
      As a response to that, I'd recommend reading "Good Software Takes Ten Years.". While Joel's frequently a fairly controversial figure, he makes a damn good point: the first 10 years of Microsoft Office versions, from 1.0 to Office 95 were actually incredibly valuable upgrades.
    10. Re:Standards and poor design choices by CatPieMan · · Score: 1

      In reply to #7, its Chrysler.

      I had a 98 Cirrus, it was cheap. One cold January morning, the battery died. To replace it, took over an hour and was not a cheap experience (that is, of course, after I had to bug my boss to come out and help me jump start the car). This was a reasonably trustworthy mechanic shop too.

      Chrysler, in their infinite wisdom, placed the battery behind the wheel on some car models in the late 90's and early 00's.

      -CPM

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    11. Re:Standards and poor design choices by j_sp_r · · Score: 1

      Maybe because having loose objects on a seat is dangerous? You can put a backpack on the ground...

    12. Re:Standards and poor design choices by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      At least with item #1, most of those non-standard batteries usually have standard cells inside. Figuring out how to get the battery open without breaking it to replace the cells inside and then ordering cells from some electronics vendor is probably a hack-worthy exercise. (And sucessfull attempts should be documented in some manner.) This can usually be done at a fraction of the cost of replacement batteries.

      Item #2 is sorta like item #1. Either the electronics is designed to be nearly unservicable (Ipod?), or has some stupid hard to find screw/bolt types in it to make servicing very inconvienient. (This even goes to a point where a hand-me-down electric fan from the 1940s works just fine because it's servicable, but another fan bought 2006 or so is likely to be chucked because it can't be opened thanks to non-common-standard screws. Ironic considering the servicable bearing cups and split-phase motors inside haven't changed that much.)

      #3 and #4 group together with #1 and #2 simply because they fall under the "Designed for consumer inconvienience" category. The only solution to this user-unfriendly business practice is to make all hardware hacks and workarounds available in the pool of public knowledge. (If you know a good hack, put it on the internet!) The less advantages there are to keep something proprietary because someone found a cheap workaround, the more likely favor will turn to a more standard solution in a future design.

      For #5? Don't buy pre-built computers if you can help it, or tie up a pre-built vendors service line (if covered as part of the cost) in getting rid of unwanted stuff. If enough people do this, the annoying stuff goes away because it's more expensive to the vendor than what they are getting paid to add the crapware. I guess this could be applied to OS's as well, but a lot more problems seem to be pre-built computer vendor driven.

      #6 can be solved by either test driving or by going for used older model cars. If it's noticably difficult or annoying in the first few drives, then it's probably not worth the hassle to buy or lease that car. Used cars are nice in this regard, since without a warranty or service plan to worry about voiding - there's no real issue with removing unwanted crap.

      #7 could be solved if everyone started to do a pre-purchase checklist when buying or leasing a car. Can I replace the battery with fairly standard tools? Can I change the lightbulbs necessary for signaling or operating at night? Can I service the fluids that need maintenance/replacement? Can I get to the fuses? Can I replace the engine air filter? If the answer to any of those is no, or involves work taking longer than 15min... Don't buy the car! If enough people started doing that, that would be a good wakeup call to the industry. On the other hand, some stuff like sparkplugs I'd give more leeway on now. Most current design specs call for them to last 50,000 or 100,000mi. So it's ok that they should be shifted from regular maintenance items to being part of more extensive work done at longer intervals.

    13. Re:Standards and poor design choices by hauntingthunder · · Score: 1

      the origional 60's vintage mini you had to remove the rear seats to get at the battery i belive.

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    14. Re:Standards and poor design choices by ChrisMaple · · Score: 1

      On the 1984 Corvette, removing the battery required removing a body panel.

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    15. Re:Standards and poor design choices by shiftless · · Score: 1

      His main complaint in #6 is that he doesn't like cars that beep at him to buckle his seatbelt and he doesn't like cars that auto-lock the doors. Personally, I don't mind these features, but I can understand why someone might find them annoying.

      It fucking pisses me off. The first thing I did when I bought my Mustang was disable that seat belt reminder garbage. (To Ford's credit, they provided an easy way to do this which was outlined in the instruction manual.) I will never own a vehicle with auto-locked doors, especially the bastards that won't open from the inside when locked. That REALLY pisses me off. When I pull on the handle that means I want the god damn door to open, NOW.

      And finally, complaint #7 is all about poor design choices (in cars). Here's his example of a bad design: "One late-model sedan I worked on required the removal of a front wheel, plus a bunch of other stuff, just to replace the battery". I'm not a mechanic, and I have little to no experience under the hood, but are a lot of cars really designed this poorly?

      Yes. (I am a mechanic.)

      I can't think of any car where I actually had to remove a tire just to change the battery (Does anyone know what car Jamie was talking about?).

      I am not sure which car it was but I distinctly remember hearing about this car before, so it exists. Now on a later model Monte Carlo, I know for a fact that you have to remove the windshield washer reservoir to even GET to the battery (i.e. to jump it off.)

      It all comes down to the engineers being forced to cram more and more crap into smaller and smaller vehicles to meet customer and government demands. This is one reason why I exclusively own and work on older vehicles, and only American ones at that.

    16. Re:Standards and poor design choices by hyades1 · · Score: 1

      There are indeed some pretty awful auto maintenance designs. The king of them all was a mid-60's GM (Olds, I think). You had to dismount the engine to change the spark plugs. A more modern example is the 2000 Celica. One of the headlights is a major pain in the ass to replace.

      I'm certain there's people out there who know far more than I who can come up with better cases.

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    17. Re:Standards and poor design choices by Kuad · · Score: 1

      I can't think of any car where I actually had to remove a tire just to change the battery (Does anyone know what car Jamie was talking about?).

      I've never had to remove a tire, but I do know that on some models of Corvette you have to remove a body panel to change the battery.

    18. Re:Standards and poor design choices by Shotgun · · Score: 1

      I have a 2000 Dodge Dakota Quad Cab.

      To change the oil filter, you have to reach through and across the exhaust pipe!

      Keep in mind, the proper way to change the oil is to warm up the engine first so that the oil flows freely. Warm engine == hot exhaust.

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    19. Re:Standards and poor design choices by Shotgun · · Score: 1

      You were trying to be to exact in adjusting the valve lash. The proper way to do it was to just tighten it until it stops clicking.

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    20. Re:Standards and poor design choices by lylfyl · · Score: 1

      > I know my 1998 Dodge Stratus requires you to remove the tire to change the battery.

      You shouldn't have to remove the tire. If you crank the wheel hard, there's enough room to slide the battery out.

      It's still an annoying design. But it's fun to watch people trying to connect jump-start cables.

  42. Mod parent down! by eugene+ts+wong · · Score: 2, Funny

    Honestly, what did Buster ever do to you? Leave him out of this.

  43. Re:Things will be getting simpler, and are already by TheThiefMaster · · Score: 3, Insightful

    All my phones in recent years use a USB port to charge. My new iMate Ultimate 6150 does, my previous HTC Trinity did, my wife's Motorola phones do. I won't buy a phone without a USB port to charge with. Do you mean that the phones have a standard usb/mini-usb socket on them so you can use a standard usb cable, or that the cable has a usb plug on one end and a proprietary phone plug on the other?
  44. Haven't you seen the show? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Adam isn't that technical.

  45. Re:"mindshare" is not a word. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "mindshare" is not a word, it's an invented marketing newspeak like comcastic or techron.

    comcastic and techron are trademarked words. Mind share is a marketing concept, not newspeak... it's the concept of the share of the collective thought a given product has with regards to the overall collective thoughts of the products related to the market in question. One way of measuring mind share is the percentage of people who think of a given brand when they think of a generic term for a product. Like what brand they think of when they think of the word "cola" is the percentage of mind share that brand has of the cola market. This is distinctly different than the actual percentage a brand has in sales. Another way is how prevalent in your target demographic/market thoughts about your product are in general.

    Worse, it's invented by the **AA schlubs in their attempts to pry the advertising value out of file sharing without the actual files haring itself taking place, thus the phrase "mindshare".

    It has nothing to do with file sharing. That phrase was in use well before the internet moved beyond the universities and researchers, let alone the invention of file sharing.

  46. Re:Things will be getting simpler, and are already by eugene+ts+wong · · Score: 1

    I don't understand. I'm not an electricity expert. Why would you prefer to use USB to charge your phone? I appreciate the option, but not the requirement.

  47. Hate to feed the troll but by spectro · · Score: 1

    WTF are you talking about?

    I installed Ubuntu 7.10 in my home desktop a few weeks ago: put cd, boot, click install, answer 4 or so questions, wait 10 minutes and it was up an running. Anything I plug into that machine just works (portable harddrives, flash drives, card readers, DVI camcorder, digital camera, etc)

    Now last weekend I decided to upgrade from AGP so I replaced with a PCI-e motherboard and video card. Didn't need to reinstall anything. The thing just booted and everything still just works. I only had to tweak screen resolution since it defaulted to a lower, safer resolution because of new video card.

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    1. Re:Hate to feed the troll but by Jumphard · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Ok preacher. Go have a cookie.

  48. Print version by spectro · · Score: 1

    Use the Print button, Luke

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  49. Response by r_jensen11 · · Score: 1

    Since most Linux OSes are free, there's no business reason for them to deliver features people want (and hence are prepared to pay for). Sure there is:

    Donations

    See also:
    Support fees, market share
  50. Re:Things will be getting simpler, and are already by flabbergast · · Score: 1

    First, vehicle information is very proprietary. Why is it that cars can't report status information via a simple USB connection?
    There is a standard reporting system on your car: its your OBD-II port and its been standard on cars sold in the United States since 1996. And yes there are OBD to USB adapters available as well as software to check with a computer. And the OBD-II is a bit more comprehensive than "oil level low" since it gets data from many places including the ECU. Why does it have to be USB?

    I've used an OBD-II reader on a occasion. For instance, my car threw a CEL last winter and I went to Autozone, borrowed their OBD-II reader and it told me that at some point my wheels were spinning significantly faster than the vehicle was actually moving. Guess what? Earlier that morning I high-centered my car on 2 feet of snow and to get unstuck I spun the wheels and threw a CEL.
    As for the washer fluid levels, yeah that sucks, my cars don't have it either. On the other hand, I can also understand the reasoning behind it. "Do we want to add X feet of wiring so we can put yet another light on the instrument panel to tell the driver?" If you've ever stripped down a vehicle you know how much wiring there is in a car and how much weight it adds.

  51. It's the Government's fault by spectro · · Score: 1

    And what is the government doing with my hard-earned tax dollars to fix all this?

    New phones are all using Usb chargers because China is forcing them to.

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  52. Jipped by Verizon by Bananatree3 · · Score: 1

    I have a Nokia phone with Verizon and recently lost my battery charger. I went to their store and saw a rack of chargers that all were exactly the same. I bought my car charger for 25 bucks and decided to compare it to a friend of mine's charger which also powers a nokia. It runs power through the rectangular port at the bottom of the phone (not the plug type unfortunately). The only difference was a slight variation in the plastic head.

    Am I seeing things here, or did they really just charge me 25 bucks for a charger that's no different between its siblings than a simple plastic variation?

  53. Flamebait??? Give me a break. by brunes69 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This whole thread is stupid. Jessica Alba is hot. Jessica Beil is hot. Scarlett Johansson is hot. Elisha Cuthbert is hot. If you want to go to mainstream TV, Evangeline Lilly from Lost is hot. Jennifer Morrison and Olivia Wilde from House are very hot. Olivia Munn from AOTS is very hot. If you want to go to the hot with a brain as well, then look no further than Kim Jagtiani (http://www.discoverychannel.ca/shows/castdetails.aspx?cid=3018&sid=5). Kerri is just average - period. Just because she is a female host on a show you happen to watch often does not make her "hot". She is intelligent yes, but quite average looking.

    1. Re:Flamebait??? Give me a break. by Omestes · · Score: 1

      You state this "hotness" as if it was some objective, and measurable fact. Oddly though, this seems to vary from culture to culture, and from decade to decade, and EVEN from subculture to subculture. So, in YOUR opinion the above are hot, and from the only two names I actually recognize (television is for PBS/History/Discovery/MSNBC only here), Jessica Alba looks like a 12 year old, and the pedo is weak in this one, and the chick from Lost is ugly, IMHO.

      The chick from Mythbusters isn't bad, I personally like the short red hair. Well and the fact that she's a nerd, or at least has the tendency (her body language makes her look like a hired face, so I sometimes wonder). River from Firefly is hot. My ubergeek friend has a crush on Morgan Webb (from G4), that I don't share physically, but I can understand, since brains are hot.

      And then we have Clair Danes. While not HOT, per se, she is damn cute.

      As for average, you haven't been paying attention to statistics, over 50% of Americans are obese, meaning the average is... obese. For verification head to your nearest shopping mall.

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    2. Re:Flamebait??? Give me a break. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The problem with Jessica Alba is she's an actress who can't act. Incompetence is a major turn off. But if you think Evangeline Lily is ugly, you're sick. Summer Glau (River from Firefly) has a nice body but her face does nothing for me. Also either she can only act one character (which is one more than Jessica Alba), or she's typecast already -- her Terminator role and her River role are identical as far as acting.

      Also, about 32% of Americans are obese, not over 50%.

    3. Re:Flamebait??? Give me a break. by ZephyrXero · · Score: 1

      So Kari's not hot...but Olivia Munn is??? WTF man...lol

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  54. Well spoken Hyneman by Chris+Johnson · · Score: 1

    The trouble is, engineering isn't always straightforward. I'm wrestling with that right now with days of work on an animation helper program's interface. The job is to 'rig' a character and move it into whatever poses you want to then keyframe. This could be done in the rawest possible way, typing values in for everything, but it would be incredibly cumbersome and slow.

    As soon as you try to cut that down, you get into judgement calls. Suppose you're rotating the model around an axis, or you can nod its head up and down. The way it's set up, if you've rotated it sideways, if you're still 'up and downing' the same thing you were, it's now tilting side-to-side instead of nodding- you have to transition from one axis to another in order to still have 'up and down' mean something that looks natural at all, and then you ask- if I'm on the side of the model pushing up, did I actually WANT some tilting in there?

    It's all "do what I mean", and the trouble with that is that your understanding of a system alters with context.

    With Firefox, for a while I had the 'warn me if I'm closing lots of tabs' warning on. It was a fair point to make, I sometimes went 'oh yeah, I didn't actually mean to leave THAT page, my thought was to quit out of THIS page'. Eventually I got more blithe about ignoring open tabs, and shut off the warning- the context changed. Technically, if I was researching something important and had a lot of new, never-visited pages open, it might make sense not to quit out of them- so you could have a 'warn me if I'm closing a tab that has nothing to do with anything in my bookmarks or history', with the idea that if the page was that original it was 'special', and my usual bookmarked pages wouldn't count. "Do what I mean".

    Every step that you take to model a user's mind state to 'do what he/she means' is more complication for the programmer or designer. It's this tradeoff where you can have things elegant on the inside which require learning to use, or things which are very complicated on the inside but are totally elegant to use FOR SOME USERS. Then it's just a matter of picking which users.

    I'm trying to get the developer of 'Pencil' to make the default behavior of dragging selected image to be- copy, create new keyframe, move to new keyframe, paste into the new keyframe, keep selected so you can repeat the process. This would be absolutely crazy for a normal image editor, but in an animation program it enables you to create moving imagery and a sequence of animated frames by just drag-drag-drag-drag-drag... it's hard to get more elegant than that, the question is, how important is that behavior compared to working WITHIN a frame as if it was normal editing tools?

    The really elegant response to a situation is very likely not the most elegant implementation as a software algorithm. It's probably all complicated with special cases and attempts to sort out what the user actually needs to happen. But in use, it's nice to have stuff that just does what you meant it to do.

    Hyneman's gripe with software stems from the assumption, "What our users mean to do is have every possible option at their fingertips available to do with the very least number of steps". Hence, short-cut hell. If you assume that it's not about the number of steps, but about identifying user work states and having coherent options within those states, things can get less horrible :)

  55. Re:The obvious counterpoint by fred+fleenblat · · Score: 1

    True on its face, but on a more subtle level:

    1. It's not linux's goal to deliver features or be marketable. My dog doesn't find me the best deals on travel or rental cars, but that's not what he's here for.

    2. Developers can choose to implement features interesting to them. Historically there has been significant overlap between what people in general want and what developers are willing to do for free.

    3. Since linux is free as in beer, many people can live without certain features in return for the low price.

    4. Many features in a commercial OS are actually misfeatures. DRM, teletubby GUI, UAC, bloatware, crapware, susceptibility to malware. I value their absence far more than the original cost of the OS.

  56. Re:Brilliant! by znerk · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Put simply, the majority of ubuntu users are those who want to be spoonfed while they thump their chests for being so awesome because they have a Linux box. Yeah, cuz none of us actually want an OS that is simple enough for our parents/grandparents to use, while being powerful enough for just about any purpose most power-users could think to try it out on.

    The problem isn't necessarily with the distro, but the userbase. Ubuntu attracts all the Windows users who ruin everything. Wait... are you bitching that Windows users are converting to Linux? Damn good thing you posted as AC, cuz you just completely destroyed any credibility you would have had as a Linux advocate, and endangered even your "enthusiast" title.

    I can't believe someone would actually be upset over winning a foothold in the desktop market, when that's what we've been trying to do for over a decade.

    Whose side are you on, really?
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  57. Re:Brilliant! by FrostDust · · Score: 1

    The point of Ubuntu is that the user shouldn't be expected to use the terminal or man pages (or even apt-get, for that matter), to do most of the things normal users would want to do. While I'm sure you're fine with compiling a program from source, it'd probably increase exposure of the program, and reduce headaches for users, if they could just click "Install Program x" and be done with it.

  58. New Myth to test...! by AnomaliesAndrew · · Score: 1

    How about they test the myth where slashdot has useful posts and accurate summaries?

    BUSTED!

    *rimshot, anybody?*

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    1. Re:New Myth to test...! by 3dr · · Score: 2, Funny

      Hmm, surely there's been at least one useful post and one accurate summary before.

      Therefore, I mod this +1, Plausible.

  59. Screw *ALL* OS's! by elrous0 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Personally, I decided to forgo BIOS's and OS's altogether and just work directly in Assembly.

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    1. Re:Screw *ALL* OS's! by Gat0r30y · · Score: 2, Funny

      Assembly is for wussies! Real men code with punch cards. And we had to walk barefoot in the snow uphill both ways to the lab just to test our programs. Seriously dude, there are some pretty good compilers out there nowadays. jump on the bandwagon. all the cool kids are doin it.

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    2. Re:Screw *ALL* OS's! by Paradise+Pete · · Score: 1
      Assembly is for wussies! Real men code with punch cards.

      Saying you code with punch cards instead of assembly is like saying you use a keyboard instead of C++.

    3. Re:Screw *ALL* OS's! by Propaganda13 · · Score: 1

      I must be a real man because I use punch cards everyday at work (to scribble notes on, we've got boxes of these things from the old days).

    4. Re:Screw *ALL* OS's! by Max+Littlemore · · Score: 2, Funny

      I do use a keyboard instead of C++, you insensitive clod!

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    5. Re:Screw *ALL* OS's! by siriuskase · · Score: 1

      Who needs a high level language like assembler when you can use toggle switchs and plug boards? Aren't there any more real engineers on /.?

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    6. Re:Screw *ALL* OS's! by Gandalf_Greyhame · · Score: 1

      YOU BASTARD!!! That was my Tic-Tac-Toe program

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    7. Re:Screw *ALL* OS's! by LittleBigLui · · Score: 1

      Switches? Plugboards? What are you, some kind of girl that can't solder?

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    8. Re:Screw *ALL* OS's! by MikeDX · · Score: 1

      I've forgone the whole os/keyboard/bios deal and simply have a morse key plugged into the serial port. Ok it takes me a while but I'M STILL COOL DAMMIT!

  60. Re:"mindshare" is not a word. by sgtrock · · Score: 1

    Odd. It seems that Webster disagrees with you. I know, I know, it's not Oxford. Oxford doesn't have a free interface, and my copy is 30 years old. Still, Webster is generally considered to be a reasonable source for the English language as spoken in the U.S.

  61. maintenance : car :: blades : razor by randomaxe · · Score: 1

    I don't know which car he's talking about, but I know that similar things aren't uncommon... I have myself owned cars where one would, for example, have to remove the tire in order to reach the oil filter. And there are vehicles (such as the Buick Century) where the tail lights are not easily user-replaceable.

    I had to purchase a special tool in order to be able to remove the oil filter in my Mini Cooper S. This same car also has an oil pan plug that is designed to be discarded and replaced rather than reused after an oil change.

    The idea is that vehicle manufacturers want you to come back to the dealership as often as possible for service. If that means making normal maintenance difficult for the average Joe by putting things in hard-to-reach places, or requiring special, proprietary tools to do maintenance, so be it.

    1. Re:maintenance : car :: blades : razor by Black+Art · · Score: 1

      My first car (a 1984 Ford Escort) required a special tool to replace the timing belt. (And you *HAD* to replace it every n thousand miles because if it broke you were screwed and needed very expensive repairs. And the 1983 model was worse. If it broke on an 83 Escort, you had to replace the valves.)

      Seeing how tight they cram things into some of these mini-cars these days, it does not surprise me that it requires a mechanic to do much of anything on them.

      Next thing you know you will want people to be able to open up and work on their own computers.

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  62. Practical advice by Kupfernigk · · Score: 1
    Find someone with a copy of Nigel Calder's book of boat electrical maintenance. It has the best discussion of cabling and powering inverters I have ever seen, (and I used to work in the industry) and from it you should be able to size your cables properly to run an inverter.

    For anybody wanting to do this kind of thing, be advised. You probably need an additional deep cycle battery in the trunk. You need properly rated cabling, for no more than 3% volt drop, with suitable protection where it runs through bulkheads, you need proper crimped end connections, and you need the proper fuse type (maxi or mega fuse, not the little iso blade fuses.) What's more, you should make a record of your calculations and save them somewhere.

    Because otherwise, when your car catches fire and damages someone else's property, you can get sued for negligence. You won't recover your own cost because your insurance will almost certainly be invalidated, but showing you worked according to industry practice should be enough to protect you from a judgement for negligence.

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  63. That's why I wired MY house for 14kv by wsanders · · Score: 1

    Very small wires, and the kids don't stick their fingers in wall sockets. Of course, the kids are all dead.

    In addition to what Technician posted, the switching supplies used by modern devices are almost 100% efficient, maybe 90% for a cheap one. Every small chargeable device we've bought in the last 2 years charges over USB 2.0, works on 90-240VAC 50/60Hz, and when the EnergyStar IV spec is mandatory real soon now the wall warts will essentially turn themselves off when not under load. Even at EnergyStar III (the one currently mandated in California) consumption is limited to 1/2W when not under load.

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  64. Re:Things will be getting simpler, and are already by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "I'm shocked that more devices aren't standardizing on DC. 18V, 5A+, not a big deal -- but so many devices could use it (charging tools, video games, cell phones, even some computer monitors). Simple, without needed ANOTHER heat-generating and wasting transformer. My laptop is DC, too, yet I need the darned transformer throughout the house."

    Do the math and you won't be shocked at all. I would rather lose 5 watts in a laptop power supply than 40 watts in the 50 foot wire from the battery fuse box to the laptop.

    That explains why you're not running 12V through the house, but it doesn't explain why your devices aren't standardizing on DC -- standard connectors, standard pinouts, standard power ratings. Like USB without the data pins.

    My telephone, DSL modem, two external hard disk enclosures, laptop, and router each have a transformer, and each has a different voltage connector (a couple use the same mini-din, but with different pinouts). Wouldn't one or two transformers with several standardized DC-out jacks be at least as efficient than 6 separate transformers? It sure would save plastic casing and cables and a lot of frustration on my part.
  65. Is half the article missing? by SilverJets · · Score: 1

    I see little tidbits about annoyances but the "How to fix them" parts are missing.

    And speaking of tech annoyances, why is it that everyone seems to be writing short articles but finds the need to spread them across three or more pages with each page containing only 5 or 6 small paragraphs? It should be full article then comments. Not 4 paragraphs, 1000 comments, 5 paragraphs, more comments, last 5 paragraphs, even more comments.

  66. Going to make some guesses here without RTFA by BeeBeard · · Score: 4, Funny

    His chief complaints are:

    1. Electric mustache trimmers far more newfangled than the reliable steam-powered models.

    2. Local beret dealer insists on selling them in outlandish, inefficient colors such as "blue" and "red" instead of the more streamlined "black" model.

    3. Technological advances in promulgating human rights laws make it no longer possible to keep hyperactive co-host safely chained to a radiator in the basement between tapings.

  67. Europe smarter by Tablizer · · Score: 1

    One good thing about European markets is that the government does make attempts to standardize things like connectors and batteries and enforce them. Leaving it "to the market" like in the US means that individuals keep reinventing the same purchasing mistakes over and over rather than factor in collective experience and wisdom into product design.

  68. Am I the Only One?! by morari · · Score: 1

    That find the Mythbusters annoying? I mean, the blow stuff up and then try to make it sound as if the demonstration had a point. The reality is that they use very little, if any, scientific method in the process. Besides, the one without the baret is just downright obnoxious.

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    1. Re:Am I the Only One?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I seriously doubt you watched a single episode, then. What, is it on the same time as football? The reality is you are full of crap.

  69. Wait so vista has bloatr but linux distro's dont? by majortom1981 · · Score: 1

    Come on most linux distro's include more already installled programs then windows does so how is it that vista has blaot but linux doesn't?

  70. Ubuntu is loaded with bloat though by NotZed · · Score: 1


    Oddly enough I just had to 'sweat' to get rid of some useless bloat in a system I installed with ubuntu only a couple of days ago.

    Getting rid of GDM/gnome desktop/'tracker' before the system became only half as responsive as my old redhat 9 system used to be (on slower hardware).

    So don't worry - everyone's 'doing it'.

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  71. Feature bloat is very common on Linux by Britz · · Score: 1

    The summary is a bit misleading. What is weighting down most Windows systems today ist Adware. Some would consider this malware.

    Since a lot of the software for Linux is free and a distro tries to "sell" more units (have more downloads or be more popular) by having loads and loads of software Linux distros usually also come with tons of software installed the the user may never use.

    There is also tons of quality freeware available for Windows (I only buy games or tax software, since everything else is for free, even if I work on a Windows box). If Microsoft would allow the sale of derivative works of Windows as "distros" with an easy installer there would also be many distributors selling custom versions of Windows with extra software installed that wouldn't be malware, but quality freeware (or software they bought cheaper in bulk quantities).

    1. Re:Feature bloat is very common on Linux by mandelbr0t · · Score: 1

      Since a lot of the software for Linux is free and a distro tries to "sell" more units (have more downloads or be more popular) by having loads and loads of software Linux distros usually also come with tons of software installed the the user may never use.

      Um no. Try installing Ubuntu and notice that the software is categorized by type. If you want GNOME and nothing else, uncheck all the extra software and install manually from Synaptic. The specific distribution mentioned in the article is popular because it's good, not because it's advertised. It also has Xubuntu and Kubuntu variants for those who prefer a bare-bones c.1970 Unix-y desktop or a Windows clone. As opposed to my HP laptop that had to be completely reinstalled to get rid of all the useless HP crap.

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  72. Sonim XP1 by Gordonjcp · · Score: 1

    Nice simple no-frills phone that's also designed to be incredibly tough.

  73. Re:Things will be getting simpler, and are already by sfbiker · · Score: 1

    It's not so much the AC->DC conversion that's inefficient and making your wall warts warm, it's the cheap linear regulators.

    Many modern wall warts use much more efficient switching power supplies - and these would not be any more efficient if you supplied them with DC from the wall instead of 120VAC. The transformer itself is probably the most efficient component in any power supply - it's the filtering and DC regulation that tend to waste power.

    Running low voltage DC isn't really going to help you out much since different electronic devices need different voltages due to technical reasons (type of semiconductors used, LCD/VFD/LED displays, peripherals, etc). If you really wanted to eliminate voltage conversions at the wall, you'd have to provide a large range of voltages...for example, 3.0, 4.5, 6.0, 7.5, 9.0, 12.0, 19.5, and 24V would be a good start, but there would still be devices that aren't included.

    If you want manufacturers to standardize on one voltage, then that means that every device is going to have to have a built-in dc-dc converter to convert from the standard voltage to the one it wants (or use inefficient linear regulators to step down voltage when the standard voltage is higher than it wants).

    Running low voltage DC to power everything means running larger wires through the walls since a 70 watt laptop that needs about half an amp of current at 120VAC to run will need over 5 amps at 12VDC.

    So, running DC through the walls isn't going to help efficiency, and may even lower efficiency due to increased line loss because of higher currents at low voltage.

  74. Re:Things will be getting simpler, and are already by Jon_Hanson · · Score: 1

    There are many things I wish were modernized, standardized, and more open. First, vehicle information is very proprietary. Why is it that cars can't report status information via a simple USB connection? All the information is either there, or could be generated VERY cheaply. I ran out of wiper fluid two days ago (lots of snow in Chicago lately), and I sat there thinking how lame it is that the wiper fluid reservoir doesn't have a simple sensor to detect low fluid (it's a 2001 vehicle, not THAT old). Even that could be transported across a USB chain with regular updates. Heck, a $2 sensor could even sense fluid at 3 levels. Simple enough. Vehicle information is standardized. All cars made within the last 10 years or so have an OBD II port within 1 meter of the ignition. Stuff you get out of the OBD II port is tailored more toward engine performance and not fluid levels though. You can buy readers that hook up to this port from any auto parts store.
  75. There is a standardized way of reading car data by kitgerrits · · Score: 1


    It's called OBDII: On Board Diagnostics II
    Look it up and see what interesting gagdets you can find.
    (They even have TFT 'virtual consoles')

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  76. Speaking of adapters... by corifornia2 · · Score: 0

    Id like to see Kari Byron's adapter . . .

    1. Re:Speaking of adapters... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Id like to see Kari Byron's adapter . . . As you wish... This is from her "one-time-only backside-model" experience.
  77. What?!?!? by Secret+Rabbit · · Score: 1

    """
    Since most Linux OSs are free, there's no business reason to bloat up the system with feature frills.
    """

    But, there's lots and lots of other reasons why there's tonnes of fat in the Linux world. Namely, because "we" can and without it, Linux won't compete with the other OS's out there.

    Perhaps this guy should work more on developing experiments that actually work the way he thinks they do, instead of fussing with this stuff.

  78. Considering by highwaytohell · · Score: 1

    the site has been /.ed, how could that now have been in his list!

  79. Bloat by Teflon_Jeff · · Score: 1

    Feature bloating can happen anywhere. But with most Linux systems, you have to do it yourself. It doesn't come pre-bloated. But yeah, file this news under O for Obvious. We already knew this.

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  80. River, changed by BenEnglishAtHome · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Summer Glau (River from Firefly) has a nice body but her face does nothing for me. Also either she can only act one character...

    I disagree. And I pine for the Firefly that could have been.

    Check her out for her last 10 seconds on-screen in Serenity. For a season of episodes and 99% of the movie, she was a tortured, often dysfunctional character because of what was in her head. At the end of the movie, though, she had fulfilled her destiny (well, at least the short-term one) and all her demons were excised from her. She was now free to be the genius little girl we had seen in flashbacks, only all grown up. Just her expressions and the way she launched that ship let you know this was now someone reaching for the full flower of her existence.

    And her brother was getting laid.

    And tragedy had left another potential couple in the offing.

    Hell, man, if there were another season of Firefly, *all* the characters would have been very different and I think Summer Glau would have done wonderful things with River. She gave us such a tantalizing glimpse.

    We'll never know for sure, I guess. Phooey, phooey, phooey!

  81. Re:Things will be getting simpler, and are already by IdeaMan · · Score: 1

    I bet it's more something along the lines of the manufacturers being afraid of getting sued by someone that used too small of a charger and burning themselves.

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  82. Linux not bloated? by heroine · · Score: 1

    Can hardly agree with the idea that Linux hasn't become bloated. Corporate love and CEO worship is programmed into all of us, whether or not we're paid to do it. Linux peaked in 1997. Since then, it's become more and more about cloning Windows and earning the love from your favorite executive idol.

    1. Re:Linux not bloated? by gr8scot · · Score: 1

      Linux peaked in 1997. Maybe, but has Microsoft "hit rock-bottom," finally?
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  83. Re:Things will be getting simpler, and are already by hauntingthunder · · Score: 1

    you ran 12 volt dc in a house FFS are you not aware of ohms law let alone the wireing regs where you live.

    are you aiming for a darwin award ?

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  84. Re:Things will be getting simpler, and are already by karnal · · Score: 1

    I don't think having a low windshield wiper fluid sensor would be that hard - had a friend with a Dodge Dakota (99ish) that had the feature. Also, we've got sensors for:
    1. Low fuel
    2. Low oil (pressure based?)
    3. Low Radiator fluid
    4. Low transmission fluid
    5. Low brake fluid

    All of these are on my 99 Grand Marquis.

    I'm guessing it wouldn't be that hard to put a float in for the windshield washer fluid. Could look similar to the float in the brake reservoir (perhaps a little longer..)

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  85. Re:Things will be getting simpler, and are already by Technician · · Score: 1

    Wouldn't one or two transformers with several standardized DC-out jacks be at least as efficient than 6 separate transformers? It sure would save plastic casing and cables and a lot of frustration on my part.

    The short answer is yes. The music industry has already taken that path. The computer industry is kind of taking that path by combining a router with a network switch with a cable/DSL modem.

    The music industry has powered backplanes for guitar stompboxes which tosses out the tangle of wall warts.

    Here is an example. A pedal board with 8 DC jacks for effects boxes.
    http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/SKB-PS45-Professional-Pedalboard?sku=544735

    and an example of modem combined with switch, router and wireless;
    http://www.superwarehouse.com/D-Link_Wireless_G_ADSL_Router_Modem/DSL-G604T/p/1488204

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  86. Aardvark Tip by srobert · · Score: 1

    If you use Aardvark, you can isolate and dewidthify the center text column and read only the story.

  87. Ob. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You must be new here.

  88. Re:Things will be getting simpler, and are already by shiftless · · Score: 1

    There are many things I wish were modernized, standardized, and more open. First, vehicle information is very proprietary. Why is it that cars can't report status information via a simple USB connection? All the information is either there, or could be generated VERY cheaply. I ran out of wiper fluid two days ago (lots of snow in Chicago lately), and I sat there thinking how lame it is that the wiper fluid reservoir doesn't have a simple sensor to detect low fluid (it's a 2001 vehicle, not THAT old). Even that could be transported across a USB chain with regular updates. Heck, a $2 sensor could even sense fluid at 3 levels. Simple enough.

    The answer to your question is that it would cost money to add those features, and the company does not want to spend $2 x 1,000,000 cars in order to implement it. It is only through massive corner cutting and penny pinching that your average car is made affordable to the average person. For the maximum benefit, it would also require coupling powertrain control systems and other non-essential systems together on the same network, which is a bad idea for a number of safety-related reasons. Even if this feature was offered, the average person would not use it. (This may change in the future as "tech-savvy" youngsters grow up and become a larger and larger percentage of the car-buying market.)

    Basically, if you want lots of fancy features like washer-fluid level monitoring, etc, I recommend buying a Cadillac. If you can't afford it or don't want to spend that kind of money, then you'll have to stick with cheaper cars that have fewer bells and whistles. You could also implement those features on your current vehicles as an interesting project.

  89. If you look at the National Electricity Code by Vitamin+J · · Score: 1

    You will find that the current rating for 14 AWG cables (you probably wouldn't use anything smaller) is typically 18A. Granted there are some derating factors, but you'd be unlucky to have thermal overload on a 14AWG cable from a 10A fuse.

    1. Re:If you look at the National Electricity Code by Technician · · Score: 1

      You will find that the current rating for 14 AWG cables (you probably wouldn't use anything smaller) is typically 18A. Granted there are some derating factors, but you'd be unlucky to have thermal overload on a 14AWG cable from a 10A fuse.

      Dude, if all you worry about is thermal overload and such, you have totally missed the point.

      Here is a short example... Assume a 12 volt supply. After all that is what the discussion is all about. Now again lets assume a 100 foot extension cord. Again, no problem. That's 14 AWG wire with a 200 foot round trip. Put a 10 amp load on it so we don't overheat the wire. After all overheating is the worry in your example. Pray tell, how many volts will you get to the load with a 10 Amp draw.. The heat isn't the problem. The voltage drop is the problem.

      A loss of 5 volts on a 120 volt line is less than a 5% drop. A 5 volt drop in a 12 volt line is a major brownout of about 40% which is unacceptable even though the 10 amp current in the wire is the same. Feed your 12 volt laptop 12 minus 5 or 7 volts and see how well it does.

      Back to the math. That 200 feet of wire has a resistance of .00297 ohms per foot or .594 ohms. At 10 amps, a safe current for a 14 guage wire, the voltage drop is 5.94 volts or just about half if you round off the 5.94 volts to 6. You could safely connect the 100 foot extension cord to a 6 volt deep cycle golf cart battery and put a dead short on the end and not overheat the wire, or blow a 15 amp fuse. The current draw would be just over 10 amps.

      At 12 volts a shorted 100 foot 14 AWG extension cord would be 12 / 0.594 or only 20.2 amps. Needless to say you would never consider using a 100 foot extension cord for an 18 amp load as you would only deliver a couple volts at that current. The rest of the power would be used for heating the wire.

      Anyone doing the math for a DC data center has to deal with this real math to power the load. DC distribution is not done at 12 volt. It still is delivered at a much higher voltage and is still dropped at the load with a switched mode power supply. The DC to DC supplies are more efficient than AC to DC supplies in all the computers and much more efficient than distributing 12 volts to the floor.

      Here is an article on using 48 volts and the problems of going more than 35-50 feet.
      http://powerquality.com/mag/power_data_center_power/
      http://www.leonardo-energy.org/drupal/node/2239

      Often Data Centers use 72 volts to 350 volts.
      http://datacenterjournal.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=955&Itemid=99999999

      575 volts is proposed here;
      http://www.edn.com/blog/1470000147/post/1670020967.html

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    2. Re:If you look at the National Electricity Code by Vitamin+J · · Score: 1

      Man, the grandparent was talking about upgrading a 5A fuse on a car's cigarette lighter to a 10A fuse, and then moving it to the trunk. From the car battery to the trunk, that can't be more than 10 feet. The voltage drop wouldn't be an issue.

      I certainly wasn't advocating running a 12VDC network around your house, as your example is suggesting.

  90. Re:Things will be getting simpler, and are already by technos · · Score: 1

    You forget that Detroit at least has the bad habit of wiring up almost everything with the same wire gauge. The 15A fuse connected to the fuel pump, the 10A fuse that runs the signals, and the 5A fuse for the radio are probably all connected to the same wire gauge.

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  91. On Again Off Again Linux Enthusiast by caller9 · · Score: 1

    I just installed Ubuntu coming from XP. I guess my motivation was to put my money where my mouth was...again. I've flip-flopped back and forth semi-anually for a while- usually over counterstrike addiction, yes it works in wine but with a crap framerate as of last summer at least (yes I reniced).

    So I got my 7.10 CD and tore into it after backing up the vital stuff.

    Initial problems:
    I've got 3 drives 2 SATA and 1 IDE. The BIOS orders them SATA1, SATA2, IDE. SATA1 is the first boot device.

    Told Ubuntu installer to leave SATA2 and IDE alone. Install to SATA1, create /boot mount point 256MB, swap partition 2GB, / partition 30GB, and remainder as large /home partition all of them ext3 except swap of course. It died in the "Detecting Hardware phase 90%". I'm Not sure why it died. It wasn't completely frozen and CTRL+ALT+F1 to first TTY of the liveCD showed a few "cramfs: wrong magic" errors in dmesg. I didn't dig any deeper and that was apparently unrelated. Started over, chose "Guided" partitioning of entire SDA (SATA1). That went off without a hitch.

    Rebooted. Grub error 15. Used live CD, discovered it called IDE drive hd(0,x) and SATA1 hd(1,x), renumbered /boot/grub/device.map, grub-install --recheck /dev/sda. changed menu.lst (the commented part) update-grub, rebooted. All is fine in the world, brown is everywhere.

    Downloaded 250+MB patches/etc. Rebooted. Drums...Brown..yay! Yes I want the restricted nvidia drivers you hippie bastard, rebooted (restart gdm would've worked I guess).

    Now I'm home free...wait no flashplugin-nonfree, better grab that. Oh, sorry, we can't bother to update a package's MD5 hash after months of complaints for some weird reason. So I followed a hack post on a forum for the postinstall script to ignore the hashes. Danced around a broken install to tweak said script without it vanishing after removal, because it wasn't cached once the "successful" install actually failed and flagged the packages as present.

    Now I'm happy. I'm sure they didn't gear their install for a combo of IDE/SATA with probably ambiguously reported boot order from the BIOS. However, they totally need to get flash 9 cooking with a good MD5 hash...it's just too easily fixed to tolerate. The install was seamless right up to the point of not really installing it and failing silently while reporting success (from apt/firefox). Trying the command from the shell or viewing shell details would indicate ~MD5SUM failure Flash NOT installed~ or something like that. It took an hour to research and fix as I'm not versed in postinstall scripts, just like 99.999% of the world...could be more 9s, I made that number up.

  92. Re:Things will be getting simpler, and are already by Nero+Nimbus · · Score: 1

    But if the automakers standardized on USB (Or anything else, for that matter), they couldn't smack you with a "computer diagnostic" fee to hook up a small computer to your car at the dealership, just to tell you what's wrong (And of course, using the computer still isn't nearly as good as having a good mechanic look at it). While it's a great idea, the automakers are going to make money every way they possibly can, and charging a fee for running a computer diagnostic is just one of many to help supplement their bottom line.

  93. Re:Brilliant! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Good job missing the point of my post.

    Yeah, cuz none of us actually want an OS that is simple enough for our parents/grandparents to use, while being powerful enough for just about any purpose most power-users could think to try it out on. I'm not talking about Linux being simple and powerful, I'm talking about the retards that go and spam whatever forum with their problems that could have been solved with 1 minute of man page reading or googling. Using something without buntu bloat, like Arch, allows one to build a machine for any purpose, whether it's a box for grandma's e-mails or an uberleet beowulf cluster. Yes, because ubuntu is based on Linux, you could do that, too, but you'll spend a longer time installing, removing the crap, installing more stuff, and configuring.

    Wait... are you bitching that Windows users are converting to Linux? Damn good thing you posted as AC, cuz you just completely destroyed any credibility you would have had as a Linux advocate, and endangered even your "enthusiast" title. I'm bitching about users who don't want to figure things out for themselves. The majority of which have switched from Windows. Windows users who are prepared to put time and effort into the system are welcomed by me... Oh, please don't take away my badge and parking pass, Mr. Boss-of-the-Linux-club!

    I can't believe someone would actually be upset over winning a foothold in the desktop market, when that's what we've been trying to do for over a decade. I couldn't care less about which OS is dominant in the desktop market. On the other hand, I do care about retards in my communities. I'm not sure if you've done any tech support, but it gets a little tiring after a while. Rather than discuss something about technology, I encounter threads of ubuntu support.

    Whose side are you on, really? The side that supports educating users and not bastardizing IT for lazy people.
  94. Re:Brilliant! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Until ubuntu reaches a point where everything can be done without the terminal or a knowledge of Linux, people should stop pimping it like it's hot shit in a champagne glass.

    All these carbon copy Justin Long wanna-be geeks burning ubuntu ISOs like nobody's business should just die off. Joe Sixpack doesn't care about Linux being more secure if he has to mess around in the terminal. Guess what? He's going to hate Linux when he can't get his wireless card up to check his e-mail, and what happens when Linux is finally technophobe-friendly? Joe will spout anti-Linux propaganda and tell everyone about his bad experience, putting people off Linux.

    This strategy doesn't work. Once there is a distro that is what ubuntu wants to be, then it can be a good contender in the desktop market. Releasing a half-assed incomplete distro and expecting it to kick ass isn't going to work.

  95. Re:Things will be getting simpler, and are already by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't know about his phones, but my HTC phones use standard USB on both sides of the cable. I can use the same cable to connect a flash memory card reader or an external hard drive enclosure to my PC.

  96. Re:Things will be getting simpler, and are already by RzUpAnmsCwrds · · Score: 1

    USB mini-B is found on most newer Motorola phones, HTC phones, and BlackBerrys. It's also on my digital camera, my Nokia 770 tablet, and my Creative Zen media player.

    Unfortunately, some idiot at the USB-IF decided that we needed ANOTHER connector. Now there are micro-B connectors, which are used on the newest Motorola phones and on the Nokia N810. Shame on whoever thought that up.

    Here's a hint to manufacturers of digital cameras, MP3 players, phones, portable hard drives, and most other USB devices: PUT A MINI B PORT ON YOUR DEVICE. I'm not buying your device if it doesn't have one, because I'm not going to bring 5 proprietary cables with me. I have like 8 mini-USB cables and numerous chargers. I have cables/chargers at my office, in multiple places at home, in the car, in my backpack, and spares in my luggage. Chances are that wherever I am I will be able to find one.

  97. universal powerbrick by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Even better would be a "serial/parallel" switch so you could go from 6V 1A to 6V 2A or 12V 1A with the flip of a switch. Ahh, to dream.

    Electronics is cheap nowadays and it could make it even better. Over time, a lot of useful circuitry has been invented but they are usually not embedded into battery packs but instead replicated in each (or at least in some, high-end ones) battery-powered device.

    Ideally, universal battery packs should have embedded switch mode "juice squeezer" (programmable current source) and two feedback (error) inputs meaning "give more voltage" and "give more current", so that powered device can demand what it needs more at the moment.

    Oh, and an embedded charging controller with outputs compatible with those inputs, so that you can strap two battery packs to share and equalize total charge (sibling mode), or to transfer all of it from one into another pack (cannibal mode), all of it selectable with simple wiring on a standardized connector(s).

    If all of this wasn't asking too much, stackability would be nice, especially if "juice squeezers" would enable combining battery packs with different levels of charge. OTOH, leaving excess space in battery compartments for additional battery packs would enlarge devices' volumes too much, so it probably won't happen.

    e-paper indicator of total charge level would be a nice touch as well!

    Now that I think about it, this "power brick" thingy should actually have simple cell sockets inside... why toss the electronics and plastic casing once the cells eventually fail?
  98. Wow. by More_Cowbell · · Score: 1

    You must not be new here...

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  99. USB chargers, beware! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My collegue's USB charged phone slowly killed all usb ports on his laptop to the extent that his motherboard (it was a top-of-the-line ibm thinkpad..) had to be replaced.
    Maybe it was drawing too much current and it fried stuff. Still, it was a scary experience.

  100. This is just asanine by briancnorton · · Score: 1

    Fine, cheerlead linux all you like, but do a fair comparison. A consumer OEM Windows Vista vs a "clean" Ubuntu download? Well DUH, I wonder which one has more crap on it.

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  101. More like by AP31R0N · · Score: 1

    He's saying this to PopMech readers... not us.

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  102. Basic Utilities by Grampaw+Willie · · Score: 0

    I always thought the reason MS sent out only scrap grade basics with their OS is so as not to compete with their own trash and most particularly Word. If WordPad was perked up just a bit no one would bother with Word. we could dispense with .doc and use .rtf instead. it's always been my impression that's why ms disposed of Write ( Win 3.11 ) and replaced it with the clunky wordpad.

  103. oh my by nomadic · · Score: 1

    From the article, in reference to car design:

    Batteries, filters, fuses and other parts that wear out or need to be serviced should be easily accessible. If the carmakers can install all those oh-so-convenient comfort controls, do they really need to make me do gymnastics to change the oil? I could go on, but you get the point. We all know companies are in a race to find smarter, faster, slicker technology, but do they really want to pursue that goal at the expense of consumers? Can't we all just be friends and play nice? To my mind, engineering is a high art, and it brings tears to my eyes to see it so disrespected at times by the marketing and legal departments of corporations. Ideally, form is supposed to follow function, and designing and manufacturing consumer products should be a collaborative process. Companies, it's time to wake up and pay attention to your engineers--and to your customers.

    Alright, I've known engineers, and I know engineers will never be convinced that any engineer anywhere ever made a bad decision, but this is just going to absurd lengths. Does he really contend that there's some marketing executive somewhere designing an engine schematic? Or that someone from Ford's legal department called down to the engineers and insisted that the battery be hard to reach?

  104. Re:Brilliant! by znerk · · Score: 1

    I'm bitching about users who don't want to figure things out for themselves. Well, you obviously haven't done any tech support, because that's 90% of the users out there. They want something that works flawlessly, out of the box, and without an hour of configuring beforehand.

    I'm not sure if you've done any tech support, but it gets a little tiring after a while. As a matter of fact, I am a network/OS support person for a software company. I've been in the computer field for about 20 years, starting with a TI-99/4a in 1986. Have you done any tech support? Apparently not, since you don't seem to have a clue about users. Without clueless people who don't want to "read man pages", people who don't want to know how the computer works, the IT support field would be dead and gone.

    For the same reason that mechanics have jobs, the IT support industry exists. I pay someone to change my oil. I pay someone to repair or replace my roof. Does this mean I should be subject to ridicule, for not knowing (or caring, for that matter) which end of a spark plug goes into the engine block? Where do you get off with this elitist bullshit about users having to have a clue?

    Do you know the internal combustion engine inside and out? No? Don't drive or ride in vehicles that use them, then. Hope you like to walk.

    Can you build a telephone from scratch? No? Then take that plastic tumor off your ear, you're not qualified to operate it. I won't bother to go into the radio frequencies and energy storage mediums involved in producing that cellphone you won't let go of.

    Do you know how a microwave works? No? How dare you nuke that hot-pocket for lunch, then?

    If you think these questions (and their corresponding answers) are ridiculous, then you obviously haven't thought through the fecal matter you're spewing. Here's a clue. The glory of having specialization in the workforce is that users don't have to know how something works to be able to make it perform its function.

    In my experience, users who call for support want their hands held. Sometimes you have to help them use their mouse (yes, over the phone). I lose count on a daily basis of the users who ask me, every time I tell them to click, whether that's a right-click or a left-click. I've done my share of joking about users who broke their cup-holders, put white-out on the screen, etc. I've even, all joking aside, had to help an 80-year-old woman find the power button on her pc. Yes, really. I wish I were kidding.

    I don't know what magical world you live in where users don't do things that techs consider ridiculous, but if you've found that place, do everything you can to stay there. Users tend to be clueless, they tend to do silly things, and they tend to get upset when things don't flow perfectly in their boxed-in little worlds wherein they use a checklist-style instruction sheet to check their email. I wish I were kidding about that one.

    If you have issues with handling calls from panicked, clueless users who don't read manuals and don't care *how* their computer works, people who want it fixed " yesterday, dammit ", then maybe you're in the wrong field. Sorry, I only meant to cast aspersions on your linux-loving credibility. I didn't intend to call you out on your interpersonal abilities and job-related skills, as well.

    You must be absolutely *thrilled* to have posted as AC instead of your actual identity, now. Keep up the good work! If you have the kind of interpersonal skills that your posts show, you'll be flipping burgers in no time. Mmmmm... minimum wage.

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  105. Automotive standards by Tungbo · · Score: 1

    Actually, there ARE automotive standard buses. There are different from the PC standards however, and not as widely known. The auto garages already used them when you go in for car inspections or engine diagnostics. If we the consumer demand more information, the interface devices will become cheaper over time.

  106. Re:Things will be getting simpler, and are already by DarthJohn · · Score: 1

    My Motorolla RAZR V3m has a mini usb port on it.

    When I plugged it into a Windows XP machine with a standard mini USB to USB2 cable, it did almost nothing, would not even charge. I found that there was a driver I needed to install just to get the thing to charge properly.

    It worked just fine plugged into my ubuntu laptop, but I guess it came with a driver that does the same thing, I just didn't have to download it from Motorolla first.

  107. Re:Brilliant! by znerk · · Score: 1

    Releasing a half-assed incomplete distro and expecting it to kick ass isn't going to work.

    This strategy doesn't work. Tell that to Microsoft.

    I can't see where they haven't done exactly that with each and every release, and not just operating systems. Jokes abound about people paying to be beta-testers, there is mass confusion over whether or not $newest_MS_OS is going to get off the ground, people complaining constantly about driver issues, software incompatibilities, and systems simply not functioning "out of the box". The biggest reason for Microsoft's success is marketing. Well, and throwing chairs.

    Then there's the "other" other OS... Mac OS X was absolutely horrible, up until 10.2 - and this gem comes from the mouths of raving Apple fanboys. Steve Jobs seems to have done alright with his marketing team, Apple products are now seen as "elite".

    For that matter, Steve Case didn't do too badly, either. AOL is globally recognized as a truly terrible example of providing internet service to the masses. On the other hand, AOL is globally recognized.

    I'm sorry, maybe I'm missing something, but I fail to see how releasing a "half-assed" distro is any different from anyone else in the market. Come to think of it, I fail to see how Ubuntu is "half-assed". It works in most hardware configurations "out of the box", with a few exceptions (wireless networking being one glaring example, I admit). Ubuntu is (currently) our best shot at the desktop market; let's work to make it a shining example of what it *should* be, not beat each other over the head with its shortcomings.
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  108. Re:Remove tire to change battery by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "I can't think of any car where I actually had to remove a tire just to change the battery (Does anyone know what car Jamie was talking about?)."

    Ran into this awhile back. Chrysler Sebring convertible. And no Autozone didn't offer to change it out for free either.

    70's corvette battery is in a weird place too. But difficult to remove.

  109. Re:Brilliant! by znerk · · Score: 1

    ...it'd probably increase exposure of the program, and reduce headaches for users, if they could just click "Install Program x" and be done with it. Actually, they can. There's an "Add/Remove..." button in the "start menu" of Ubuntu.

    The problem here is that Microsoft has turned the "Add/Remove Programs" button into an uninstallation interface. In Windows, there is no "Give me software" option in the dialog that it brings up. Well, ok, there's an option to add stuff from the Windows OS disk, if you happen to have missed it the first time 'round (assuming you installed Windows yourself), but for the most part, a user's only interaction with "Add/Remove Programs" is when they want to uninstall that horrific piece of shareware they picked up... which brings me to the other issue we're fighting against in the battle for the desktop...

    My employer told me the other day that "Free software is not acceptable for our business purposes. We're going to pay for our software."

    I was flabbergasted. How do you answer that?

    The average person perceives "free stuff" as "crap that isn't worth paying for". We'll have to change that perception, if we want to have any serious mainstream market penetration.
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  110. Re:"mindshare" is not a word. by the+real+darkskye · · Score: 1

    mindshare is indeed listed in the online OED. Sometimes working at an academic institution has its advantages.

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  111. Valve lash adjustment by smellsofbikes · · Score: 1

    You want a tiny bit of play because if you just crank it down blindly, there are circumstances where non-equilibrium heating means you have negative clearance and things either bend or one valve doesn't close/seat fully -- both of which are *bad*. That's why they spec valve clearance as a range, with a non-zero least-clearance, on every valve train I've ever worked on.

    On the Ford, I was disinclined to do anything but follow the directions carefully, since the exhaust valves were tubular and filled with liquid sodium metal (well, liquid once the engine was hot, at least), and any sort of mistake could lead to serious excitement, like, say, a sodium fire in the engine compartment. On the '71 Datsun, however, I couldn't care less, because I bought it for $200, so I did the valve lash hot once, let the car cool down, wrote down all the clearances when it was cold, and from then on just relashed it to those numbers rather than the quoted hot numbers.

    (Why non-fully-seated valves are *bad* -- if it's the intake valve that sticks down, combustion leaks into the intake manifold and carburetor, which eats all the fuel/air mixture for the whole engine and is rough on the air filter, and for either valve but particularly the exhaust valve, the valve seat wicks away a lot of the heat the valve's picked up so you risk burning the valve edges. And lemme tell you what, a burnt valve that ends up fracturing does really rotten things to an engine.)

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  112. How do we get a free market to fix this? by OldSoldier · · Score: 1

    The cordless battery issue he mentions is one of my pet peeves too. However, it seems to stem from a misguided attempt by the manufacturers to capture an extra part of the "razors and razor blade" market. (Sell the razor for below cost and clean up on the repeat sales of above cost blades.) We see (or suspect) this is happening in ink-jet printers.

    I find it funny (and hence am not 100% convinced) that this is happening in the cordless battery realm because the cost of a replacement battery is something like 80% of the cost of the original tool. At least from a recent experience I had when one of my batteries died. At that price level it may just be enough for me to buy a new one from a diff manufacturer and hence break the razor-and-blade scheme.

    However it may be interesting to consider situations where IMPROVEMENTS have been made for no obvious market benefit. For example, most modern remote controls are ergonomically styled so as to feel comfortable in your hand. Earlier styles of remote controls were simple rectangular boxes. The question is WHY did the manufacturers switch to these ergonomically designed units? It seems to me that on the list of "must have" features on a new TV or stereo an ergonomically designed remote should be so low that it would never get addressed.

    I feel the same way about the car unlock complaint as well as the passenger seatbelt complaint Jamie made. But... when I'm looking for horsepower, gas mileage and reliability, door unlock feature just doesn't measure up to be a "no-buy" decision. Yet, like the remote control example above... something may yet force these designers to put these features in.

  113. Re:Things will be getting simpler, and are already by Technician · · Score: 1

    You forget that Detroit at least has the bad habit of wiring up almost everything with the same wire gauge. The 15A fuse connected to the fuel pump, the 10A fuse that runs the signals, and the 5A fuse for the radio are probably all connected to the same wire gauge.

    Don't make safety assumptions. The price of copper is way up. It may be cost effective to stock more than one wire size. It's not a gamble I want to do with a new car. I'll check first.

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  114. Re:Things will be getting simpler, and are already by technos · · Score: 1

    If it's 'new' I wouldn't take the gamble at all. Make the dealer do it, warranties suck.

    Older car? Wire size has no match on reality.

    Speaking as the owner or mechanic of (over my life, by starting year) of a 1959-1961 MG, 1961-1964 Triumph, 1968-1975 and 1977 Mercedes Benz, 1969-1974 Opel, 1972-1974 AMC Eagle, a 1977 AMC Jeep Cherokee, 1977 and 1979 Chevrolet Camaro, 1980-1985 and 1989 Ford truck, 1991-1993 and 1996 Ford sedan, 1992-1996 Volkswagen, and 1998 GMC truck:

    Fuse rating has zero match with wire gauge and expected circuit load. I have never seen a 5A fuse I could not replace with a 10A fuse, even if it ran around, next to, and then wrapped around the weakest rubber line in my fuel system five times.

    Anything rated for less than 15A is probably the same wire in my experience, model to model, unless:

    1: It's the ignition line on any car with a Bosch or Lucas ignition system, which may have resistive wire of smaller gauge than would be expected. If it has a normal wire, it has a huge ceramic resistor on the coil most of the time. If you have a Bosch distributor with points, go see a Volkswagen mechanic for extra horsepower and mileage switching to a full voltage coil, Pertronix system to replace the points, and a Porsche 914/6 rotor to keep you from too much fun.
    Lucas owners, you're lucky it still starts. Repeat after me: 'Exhalted is thee, Lucas, Prince of Darkness. For thee hast given me the two position switch with three settings, they be off, on, and smoking. Let my bulbs last longer than a thousand miles, and let my generator always furnish nine to fifteen of the required volts. In your name, God Lucas, Amen.'
    2: It belongs to the computer or airbag on a Ford, GM or Chrysler post 1987/1988, in which case it will be too large for the fuse by one gauge.
    3: It powers the lighting, auxiliary or AC on a Mercedes before 1982-ish. Daimler Benz sold so many different light configurations, power interior packages, and AC packages all over the world that they planned for the worst gauge required in the harness and shrunk the fuse rating. In many of the 1960's models the AC fuse was reused for other things.
    4: It is the optional fuse of any American Motors or Jeep product made in their name. They came with no fuse installed in the box, and wire runs through the firewall to the bumper would support a 20A load for the dealer installed lighting packages easily.
    5: Power seat fuses on the Ford Escort/Mercury Topaz and Ford full-size sedans were always too large for their wiring.

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  115. trivial? by pbhj · · Score: 1

    Take a carving knife and cut off 5-10lbs of your own flesh.

    Trivial?

    1. Re:trivial? by misleb · · Score: 1

      It isn't often that I get the urge to call someone retarded.

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    2. Re:trivial? by pbhj · · Score: 1

      You should just do it. Ad-hominem attacks are always the highest form of logical argument IMHO.

      What's that? Me, surely not, but I ... retarded you say.

      Well, with your experience in the matter, I guess I'll have to concede. :0)>

    3. Re:trivial? by misleb · · Score: 1

      You should just do it. Ad-hominem attacks are always the highest form of logical argument IMHO.


      What logical argument? I was giving my opinion on how inconsequential 5-10 lbs is with regards to a woman's general "hotness" and you injected some non-sequitur about hacking that amount of fat of my own body with a knife. I will concede that it doesn't necessarily make you "retarded" but the comment was pretty stupid and pointless.

      So how about I say "that was retarded" instead of "you are retarded" and we can forget about all the ad hom B.S. Maybe you are normally a genius with a razor wit and you were just having an "off" day. Who knows.

      -maatthew
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    4. Re:trivial? by pbhj · · Score: 1

      We can forget about it, but I'd try a little less caffeine in your diet if I were you.

  116. Did anyone else misread this as.. by SonicSpike · · Score: 1

    ..Jamie Hyman?

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